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* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGateIII'', if the PlayerCharacter manages to find the letter from [[TheLostLenore the late Melodia Thorm]] they can use it to attempt TalkingTheMonsterToDeath with her husband, ArcVillain [[GeneralRipper General Ketheric Thorm]]. He initially resists for this reason, before expressing resentment towards the gods after they allowed his wife and daughter to die after [[FallenHero he served them faithfully]] and going into a VillainousBSOD.

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* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGateIII'', if the PlayerCharacter manages to find the letter from [[TheLostLenore the late Melodia Thorm]] they can use it to attempt TalkingTheMonsterToDeath with her husband, ArcVillain [[GeneralRipper General Ketheric Thorm]]. He initially resists for this reason, before expressing resentment towards the gods after they allowed his wife and daughter to die after [[FallenHero he served them faithfully]] and going into a VillainousBSOD. If the player continues trying to redeem him after catching up to him following his VillainExitStageLeft, [[spoiler:he's DrivenToSuicide, allowing them to skip the first phase of the boss fight]].
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* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGateIII'', if the PlayerCharacter manages to find the letter from [[TheLostLenore the late Melodia Thorm]] they can use it to attempt TalkingTheMonsterToDeath with her husband, ArcVillain [[GeneralRipper General Ketheric Thorm]]. He initially resists for this reason, before expressing resentment towards the gods after they allowed his wife and daughter to die after [[FallenHero he served them faithfully]] and going into a VillainousBSOD.
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* ''Fanfic/CutMyLifeIntoPiecesThisIsMyLastResort'': After Marinette is [[FakingTheDead seemingly killed]] by one of Truth Bomb's explosions, Hawkmoth is absolutely ''horrified'' -- all the more so when the death ''sticks'' and isn't reversed by the [[WorldHealingWave Miraculous Cure]]. While he seriously contemplates retiring, he ultimately decides that he can't give up when he's come so far already, much to [[DisappointedInYou Mayura's disgust]].

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* ''Fanfic/CutMyLifeIntoPiecesThisIsMyLastResort'': After Marinette is [[FakingTheDead seemingly killed]] by one of Truth Bomb's explosions, Hawkmoth is absolutely ''horrified'' -- all the more so when the death ''sticks'' and isn't reversed by the [[WorldHealingWave Miraculous Cure]]. While he seriously contemplates retiring, he ultimately decides that he can't give up when he's come so far already, much to [[DisappointedInYou Mayura's disgust]].disappointment]]. However, he later goes to great lengths to make sure his Akumas can never truly harm civilians ever again.
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* In the penultimate episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'', [[spoiler:Sprig reads [[Characters/AmphibiaKingAndrias King Andrias]] a letter from his ancestor and Andrias' best friend, Leif, encouraging him to open his heart and not let himself grow cold. The realization that Leif still remembered and loved him until the end of her life causes Andrias to collapse to his knees, crying that the things he has done has made him BeyondRedemption. Unusually for this trope, he does survive and become TheAtoner, although it's clear that he does not expect forgiveness]].

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* In the penultimate episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'', [[spoiler:Sprig reads [[Characters/AmphibiaKingAndrias King Andrias]] Andrias a letter from his ancestor and Andrias' best friend, Leif, encouraging him to open his heart and not let himself grow cold. The realization that Leif still remembered and loved him until the end of her life causes Andrias to collapse to his knees, crying that the things he has done has made him BeyondRedemption. Unusually for this trope, he does survive and become TheAtoner, although it's clear that he does not expect forgiveness]].
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* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Not What He Seems", this is [[Characters/GravityFallsGrunkleStan Stan's]] reasoning to activate the portal's full power [[spoiler:to save his brother Ford]] despite the journal's warnings about using it in extreme manners.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Not What He Seems", this is [[Characters/GravityFallsGrunkleStan Stan's]] Stan's reasoning to activate the portal's full power [[spoiler:to save his brother Ford]] despite the journal's warnings about using it in extreme manners.
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* Defied by Orthodox Christianity: the idea of being beyond redemption is a lie, and such thoughts are sent by demons to [[DrivenToSuicide drive sinners to despair and suicide]]. As long as he or she at least repents and tries to avoid sinning in such a way, God will forgive. Only after death is their fate truly sealed... and even then, until The Last Judgement, there's a chance for such people to be saved by God, if someone will pray to Him, even for those who committed suicide. Though to truly repent regarding sin is to never commit it again.
** There's a story about a Christian who was constantly (or even every day) defeated by the demon of lust, but who constantly repented. This continued for more than ten years...once he committed it again and fell on his knees in the temple, begging God for mercy. Satan himself appeared and raged against God, proclaiming that he committed only one sin of pride, and He didn't pardon him, but He constantly forgave that fornicator, even though he committed many more sins (of course, [[{{Pride}} Satan thought asking God for pardon was beneath him]]). The God rebuked him for hypocrisy: Satan constantly takes a person as his when he or she sins, so why can't God, being an AllLovingHero, do the same if a man repents? He adds that He will forgive this man if he falls a thousand times, and repents after that. The God then reminded Satan that He judges people by the state of their soul at the moment of their death, and now He will take this man as His, as this person didn't despair and had faith in God's mercy. After that, this man died, and the angels brought his soul to God.

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* Defied by Orthodox Christianity: the idea of being beyond redemption is a lie, and such thoughts are sent by demons to [[DrivenToSuicide drive sinners to despair and suicide]]. As long as he or she they at least repents repent and tries to avoid sinning in such a way, God will forgive. Only after death is their fate truly sealed... and even then, until The Last Judgement, there's a chance for such people to be saved by God, if someone will pray to Him, even for those who committed suicide. Though to truly repent regarding sin is to never commit it again.
** There's a story about a Christian who was constantly (or even every day) defeated by the demon of lust, but who constantly repented. This continued for more than ten years...once he committed it again and fell on his knees in the temple, begging God for mercy. Satan himself appeared and raged against God, proclaiming that he committed only one sin of pride, and He didn't pardon him, but He constantly forgave that fornicator, even though he committed many more sins (of course, [[{{Pride}} Satan thought asking God for pardon was beneath him]]). The God rebuked him for hypocrisy: Satan constantly takes a person as his when he or she sins, they sin, so why can't God, being an AllLovingHero, do the same if a man repents? He adds that He will forgive this man if he falls a thousand times, and repents after that. The God then reminded Satan that He judges people by the state of their soul at the moment of their death, and now He will take this man as His, as this person didn't despair and had faith in God's mercy. After that, this man died, and the angels brought his soul to God.

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* ''Fanfic/ThisAndThat'': Iori {{Discusse|dTrope}} this with Roland before sending him to the Library of Ruina, bringing up all the bridges she burned in the process of taking him under her wing as her apprentice.



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* ''Fanfic/{{Revelation|Hellaverse}}'': While preparing to go on a SuicideMission in an attempt to prevent Stolas' execution, Moxxie pleads with Octavia to save herself. Octavia retorts that she hasn't come this far just to turn away now.



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* ''Fanfic/LimitlessPotential'': By the time X arrives to challenge Chill Penguin, the Reploid is having serious second thoughts about throwing his lot in with Sigma's rebellion. However, he decides that he can't turn back at this point and fights to the bitter end.




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* ''Fanfic/{{Missing|MiraculousLadybug}}'': While Hawkmoth is deeply disturbed upon realizing that one of his akumas caused Marinette's disappearance, he convinces himself that he ''must'' continue; otherwise, what happened to her will have been AllForNothing.
* ''Fanfic/TrueBlue'' opens this way, with Marinette [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone deeply regretting]] everything she did at Hawkmoth's command. While still offering to help the heroes, she doesn't consider this to be proper atonement, convinced that she's beyond redemption.
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* ''Fanfic/{{Venality}}'' has several members of the League, including [[spoiler:Shoto, Ochako and Momo]], start to regret their actions over the course of the series, believing that the League has lost sight of its original goals of fixing the issues in Hero Society. However, they all recognize that they're too embroiled in the conflict to simply back down now, and continue fighting in hopes that whatever comes of the war will ultimately be better.
* In ''Fanfic/{{Viridescent}}'', Himiko sincerely regrets her villainous actions, but also believes that she's already BeyondRedemption.
* ''Fanfic/WhisperedTribulation'': Aizawa and his co-conspirators refuse to accept the notion that he might have leapt to [[MistakenForSpies all the wrong conclusions]] about Izuku, as they already kidnapped and [[WouldHurtAChild attempted to torture]] a FalseConfession out of him. Admitting they were wrong would mean facing that their horrific treatment of one of U.A.'s students was AllForNothing, so they double down.

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* ''Fanfic/{{Tournament Arc|RWBY}}'': Pyrrha is firmly convinced that nobody could ever love her for being anything less than TheAce. After she pushes Jaune away by hitting him with a [[BreakThemByTalking Breaking Speech]], she's convinced that she's completely beyond forgiveness and has nothing left in life but to continue pursuing perfection.

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* Griffith of ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' has this at the end of the Golden Age Arc that solidifies him JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope. [[spoiler: Broken, mutilated, having lost all status, he ultimately decides to sacrifice the Band of the Hawk so he can become Femto, a member of the immortal Godhand. Even when shown with a semi-idyllic future where he lives peacefully with Casca, he finds he cannot abandon his dream when the Godhand show him a vision in which he steps over the corpses of those who have already died following him.]]
--> '''Griffith:''' [[spoiler: If I apologize or feel regret, everything will be over. I'll never… be able to reach this place.]]

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* Griffith of ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' has this at the end of the Golden Age Arc that solidifies him JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope. [[spoiler: Broken, [[spoiler:Broken, mutilated, having lost all status, he ultimately decides to sacrifice the Band of the Hawk so he can become Femto, a member of the immortal Godhand. Even when shown with a semi-idyllic future where he lives peacefully with Casca, he finds he cannot abandon his dream when the Godhand show him a vision in which he steps over the corpses of those who have already died following him.]]
--> '''Griffith:''' [[spoiler: If -->'''Griffith:''' [[spoiler:If I apologize or feel regret, everything will be over. I'll never… never... be able to reach this place.]]



* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'': Geoffrey St. John has been working as Ixis Naugus' apprentice for years, trying to make him king of the Kingdom of Acorn under the belief he could strengthen the kingdom and prevent the deaths of many people. He ultimately succeeds, but finds out the hard way he made a terrible mistake and Naugus is just a power-hungry tyrant when he discovers Naugus intends MassHypnosis to subject the Council to his will, an equivalent of [[UnwillingRoboticisation roboticization]]; sadly, he's prevented from turning on him when Naugus points out Geoffrey has burnt all his bridges and none of the Freedom Fighters would believe him if he tried to tell them. Realizing he's come too far and has no other options, Geoffrey solemnly agrees, even telling Silver as such when he tries to recruit him for help.
-->'''Geoffrey''': Like I said, it's too late for me. You've got a future to save, I... don't. See you around, kid.



* In ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'', the Earth-based heroes and the Warbound start swapping "too far!"s like trading cards.



* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'': Geoffrey St. John has been working as Ixis Naugus' apprentice for years, trying to make him king of the Kingdom of Acorn under the belief he could strengthen the kingdom and prevent the deaths of many people. He ultimately succeeds, but finds out the hard way he made a terrible mistake and Naugus is just a power-hungry tyrant when he discovers Naugus intends MassHypnosis to subject the Council to his will, an equivalent of [[UnwillingRoboticisation roboticization]]; sadly, he's prevented from turning on him when Naugus points out Geoffrey has burnt all his bridges and none of the Freedom Fighters would believe him if he tried to tell them. Realizing he's come too far and has no other options, Geoffrey solemnly agrees, even telling Silver as such when he tries to recruit him for help.
-->'''Geoffrey''': Like I said, it's too late for me. You've got a future to save, I... don't. See you around, kid.
* In ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk'', the Earth-based heroes and the Warbound start swapping "too far!"s like trading cards.



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* ''Fanfic/BlackbirdArrow'': Part of Dinah's "rationale" (the rest is pure InsaneTrollLogic) for trading Laurel for Sara to the League of Assassins. She's finally found Sara and is unwilling to let her go now; and acknowledges that between [[ParentalAbandonment abandoning Laurel]] after the ''Gambit'' sank and letting Sara get on the ''Gambit'', she's already lost Laurel. But she won't lose Sara too.

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* ''Fanfic/BlackbirdArrow'': Part of Dinah's "rationale" (the rest is pure InsaneTrollLogic) for trading Laurel for Sara to the League of Assassins. She's finally found Sara and is unwilling to let her go now; and acknowledges that between [[ParentalAbandonment abandoning Laurel]] after the ''Gambit'' sank and letting Sara get on the ''Gambit'', she's already lost Laurel. But she won't lose Sara too.

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* ''Fanfic/PeaceOfMindPieceOfHeart'': Catra rebuffs Steven's attempts to learn more about her on the basis that she's guilty of far too many atrocities to deserve any sort of kindness.
-->'''Catra''': Dammit! Don't you know a lost cause when you see one?



* ''Fanfic/PeaceOfMindPieceOfHeart'': Catra rebuffs Steven's attempts to learn more about her on the basis that she's guilty of far too many atrocities to deserve any sort of kindness.
--> '''Catra''': "Dammit! Don’t you know a lost cause when you see one?"

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* ''Fanfic/PeaceOfMindPieceOfHeart'': Catra rebuffs Steven's attempts ''Fanfic/{{Blackbird|Arrow}}'': Part of Dinah's "rationale" (the rest is pure InsaneTrollLogic) for trading Laurel for Sara to learn more about the League of Assassins. She's finally found Sara and is unwilling to let her go now; and acknowledges that between [[ParentalAbandonment abandoning Laurel]] after the ''Gambit'' sank and letting Sara get on the basis that ''Gambit'', she's guilty of far too many atrocities to deserve any sort of kindness.
--> '''Catra''': "Dammit! Don’t you know a
already lost cause when you see one?"
Laurel. But she won't lose Sara too.



* One of Keitaro's biggest problems in ''Fanfic/TheBeastThatIAm'' is that he can't even consider changing the status quo by say evicting the troublesome tenants or applying to a different school because he feels that doing so would invalidate the years of effort he's already invested. It doesn't occur to him that the status quo is him getting beaten for any slight mistake, including others (the story starts with Naru entering PervertRevengeMode because she walked in on him changing in his own room), and that since Shinobu can now become ComicBook/SheHulk, things ''will'' change regardless of what he wants.

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* ''Fanfic/TheBeastThatIAm'': One of Keitaro's biggest problems in ''Fanfic/TheBeastThatIAm'' issues is his reluctance to do anything that he can't even consider changing might change the status quo by say quo, such as punishing or evicting the troublesome abusive tenants or applying to a different school because he feels another school. To his mind, that doing so would invalidate all the years of effort he's already invested. It doesn't occur to him that Problem is, not only is the status quo is him getting beaten for any slight mistake, including others (the incredibly toxic (for instance, the story starts opens with Naru entering PervertRevengeMode because she walked in on him changing [[PervertRevengeMode assaulting Keitaro]] for ''daring'' to get changed in his own room), and that since Shinobu can now become ComicBook/SheHulk, gaining ComicBook/SheHulk's powers means that things ''will'' change regardless of what he wants.
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* ''Fanfic/CutMyLifeIntoPiecesThisIsMyLastResort'': After Marinette is [[FakingTheDead seemingly killed]] by one of Truth Bomb's explosions, Hawkmoth is absolutely ''horrified'' -- all the more so when the death ''sticks'' and isn't reversed by the [[WorldHealingWave Miraculous Cure]]. While he seriously contemplates retiring, he ultimately decides that he can't give up when he's come so far already, much to [[DisappointedInYou Mayura's disgust]].



-->'''Lord Shen''': My parents… hated me. Do you understand? They wronged me. I… will make it right.\\

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-->'''Lord Shen''': My parents… parents... hated me. Do you understand? They wronged me. I… will make it right.\\



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** In the sequel comics, it's implied [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderPrincessAzula Azula]] has a subconcious version of this going on; when confronted with spirit visions that urge her to seek redemption, she is visibly freaked out but doubles down on her worldview that redemption and apologies are for the weak. Since the visions were only using her own thoughts as a basis, this can be interpreted as Azula deep down knowinng full well that she's in the wrong but feeling she has done too much.

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** In the sequel comics, it's implied [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderPrincessAzula Azula]] has a subconcious version of this going on; when confronted with spirit visions that urge her to seek redemption, she is visibly freaked out but doubles down on her worldview that redemption and apologies are for the weak. Since the visions were only using her own thoughts as a basis, this can be interpreted as Azula deep down knowinng knowing full well that she's in the wrong but feeling she has done too much.

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* In the penultimate episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'', [[spoiler:Sprig reads Andrias a letter from his ancestor and Andrias' best friend, Leif, encouraging him to open his heart and not let himself grow cold. The realization that Leif still remembered and loved him until the end of her life causes Andrias to collapse to his knees, crying that the things he has done has made him BeyondRedemption. Unusually for this trope, he does survive and become TheAtoner, although it's clear that he does not expect forgiveness]].

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* In the penultimate episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'', [[spoiler:Sprig reads Andrias [[Characters/AmphibiaKingAndrias King Andrias]] a letter from his ancestor and Andrias' best friend, Leif, encouraging him to open his heart and not let himself grow cold. The realization that Leif still remembered and loved him until the end of her life causes Andrias to collapse to his knees, crying that the things he has done has made him BeyondRedemption. Unusually for this trope, he does survive and become TheAtoner, although it's clear that he does not expect forgiveness]].



** In the sequel comics, it's implied Azula has a subconcious version of this going on; when confronted with spirit visions that urge her to seek redemption, she is visibly freaked out but doubles down on her worldview that redemption and apologies are for the weak. Since the visions were only using her own thoughts as a basis, this can be interpreted as Azula deep down knowinng full well that she's in the wrong but feeling she has done too much.

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** In the sequel comics, it's implied Azula [[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderPrincessAzula Azula]] has a subconcious version of this going on; when confronted with spirit visions that urge her to seek redemption, she is visibly freaked out but doubles down on her worldview that redemption and apologies are for the weak. Since the visions were only using her own thoughts as a basis, this can be interpreted as Azula deep down knowinng full well that she's in the wrong but feeling she has done too much.



* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Not What He Seems", this is Stan's reasoning to activate the portal's full power [[spoiler:to save his brother Ford]] despite the journal's warnings about using it in extreme manners.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Not What He Seems", this is Stan's [[Characters/GravityFallsGrunkleStan Stan's]] reasoning to activate the portal's full power [[spoiler:to save his brother Ford]] despite the journal's warnings about using it in extreme manners.


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* ''WesternAnimation/SheRaAndThePrincessesOfPower'': [[Characters/SheRaAndThePrincessesOfPowerShadowWeaver Shadow Weaver]] does ultimately realize she's hurt everyone, and it's what leads her to sacrifice herself in the end. By the time she's confronted with the horrible things she's done, she's already wasted her lifetime being selfish and abusive that the damage is just too grave for her to make amends. She even tells Catra it's simply too late for her to change her ways while Catra has her entire life ahead of her to make up for her own mistakes.
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* In ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Luke Skywalker tries to convince his father, Darth Vader, to make a HeelFaceTurn. Vader says "It is...too late for me, son." He's already realized that what he's doing is wrong, but believes he's so far beyond the possibility of redemption that it would be pointless to try. Later in the movie, he changes his mind when Luke is about to be murdered by [[BigBad the Emperor]]. RedemptionEqualsDeath ensues.

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* In ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Luke Skywalker tries to convince his father, Darth Vader, to make a HeelFaceTurn. Vader says "It is... too late for me, son." He's already realized that what he's doing is wrong, but believes he's so far beyond the possibility of redemption that it would be pointless to try. Later in the movie, he changes his mind when Luke is about to be murdered by [[BigBad the Emperor]]. RedemptionEqualsDeath ensues.

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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'':
** In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'', Zeheart Galette has seen many comrades die, often at his command, for the sake of Lord Ezelcant's Project Eden. When [[spoiler:he later finds out that Project Eden is not a cause he agrees with, he pushes on trying to fulfill it regardless, because if he didn't, then all the lives he sacrificed would be for nothing. He repeatedly tells himself that he's come too far to stop now as he orders more and more people to their deaths, which of course only compounds the problem.]]
** In ''Anime/GundamBuildDivers'', this is [[spoiler:Ayame's]] reasoning for trying to stick with the Break Decal mastermind's plans as [[spoiler:she's ruined so many people's fun in GBN for the mastermind's drive to destroy GBN just so she can try to get back a beloved Gunpla that she feels she can't accept a HeelFaceTurn]]. Thankfully for [[spoiler:Ayame]], Riku and Sarah are stubborn and kind-hearted enough to help [[spoiler:her]] through and make the turn.



* In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'', Zeheart Galette has seen many comrades die, often at his command, for the sake of Lord Ezelcant's Project Eden. When [[spoiler:he later finds out that Project Eden is not a cause he agrees with, he pushes on trying to fulfill it regardless, because if he didn't, then all the lives he sacrificed would be for nothing. He repeatedly tells himself that he's come too far to stop now as he orders more and more people to their deaths, which of course only compounds the problem.]]



* In ''Anime/GundamBuildDivers'', this is [[spoiler:Ayame's]] reasoning for trying to stick with the Break Decal mastermind's plans as [[spoiler:she's ruined so many people's fun in GBN for the mastermind's drive to destroy GBN just so she can try to get back a beloved Gunpla that she feels she can't accept a HeelFaceTurn]]. Thankfully for [[spoiler:Ayame]], Riku and Sarah are stubborn and kind-hearted enough to help [[spoiler:her]] through and make the turn.

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* In ''Anime/GundamBuildDivers'', this is [[spoiler:Ayame's]] reasoning for trying to stick with ''Manga/OnePiece'': [[spoiler:At the Break Decal mastermind's plans as [[spoiler:she's ruined so many people's fun in GBN for end of the mastermind's drive Onigashima Raid, Hawkins reveals to destroy GBN just so she can try to get back a beloved Gunpla X Drake that she feels she can't while [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he considered asking to become Kid's ally once more]], he felt that doing so after [[KnowWhenToFoldEm betraying him]] to [[InvincibleVillain Kaido]] once would've been disgraceful ([[OnceDoneNeverForgotten not that Kid would've accepted him either way]]). Instead, he calculated that he had a 1% chance of surviving the Raid, and grimly decided to fight on and [[FaceDeathWithDignity accept a HeelFaceTurn]]. Thankfully for [[spoiler:Ayame]], Riku and Sarah are stubborn and kind-hearted enough whatever happened to help [[spoiler:her]] through and make the turn.him]].]]

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