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11th Sep '17 8:09:48 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Creator/JimShooter sold his first stories to DC Comics when he was just 13 years old.
2nd Sep '17 2:25:53 AM SeptimusHeap
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* RobertDeNiro and AlPacino in ''Film/RighteousKill'', which was by most accounts only noteworthy as it was the first movie since ''Film/{{Heat}}'' to star both actors, and the only one to have them both in more than one scene together. They played Homicide detectives at age 65 and 68 respectively. Not a particularly egregious use of the trope, but it seems more likely that anyone pushing 70 in the NYPD would have at most a desk job and not be pursuing drug dealers and serial killers.

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* RobertDeNiro Creator/RobertDeNiro and AlPacino Creator/AlPacino in ''Film/RighteousKill'', which was by most accounts only noteworthy as it was the first movie since ''Film/{{Heat}}'' to star both actors, and the only one to have them both in more than one scene together. They played Homicide detectives at age 65 and 68 respectively. Not a particularly egregious use of the trope, but it seems more likely that anyone pushing 70 in the NYPD would have at most a desk job and not be pursuing drug dealers and serial killers.
29th Aug '17 11:26:32 PM Synchronicity
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* In the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' games, only three of the attorneys that appear in the first two games appear to be out of their twenties: Winston Payne, Marvin Grossberg, and Manfred von Karma. Of course, considering all the other idiosyncrasies of the justice system as presented in the games, ridiculously young attorneys are pretty much par for the course. In some places it's possible to be a lawyer without going through grad school, but really, it's all just [[HandWave handwaved]].
** Godot's age on his profile in-game simply says ??. [[spoiler:However, Godot is Diego Armando, who was 27 in the events of Turnabout Beginnings, which was 6 years prior to the events of ''Trials and Tribulations'', meaning that Godot is now around 33 years old, making him the only one of Phoenix's rivals older than 30 in their debut appearance.]]
** Phoenix had passed his bar exam by the time he was 24. [[spoiler:Lost his badge at 26, became a mentor to Apollo Justice at 33, and then regaining his badge at 34.]]
** Mia Fey passed her bar exam by the time she was 23, and had her own law office by the time she was 27.
** Franziska von Karma became a lawyer at only 13. They kind of explain it as being a result of her being born and raised in Germany, that land of remarkably progressive laws and very easy bar exams.
** Calisto Yew was 23 when Edgeworth met her, and she'd been practicing law for at least a couple of years. [[spoiler: Not that she was actually a lawyer, but nobody seemed to doubt she was one due to age or incompetence.]]
** Apollo Justice himself is even younger than Phoenix when he becomes a lawyer (22). At his age, he should be finishing college or just starting law school!
** And then you have Adrian Andrews, a 23 year old manager, Ron [=DeLite=], a 22 year old Chief of Security... let's face it, the ''Ace Attorney'' series hates old people.
** Klavier Gavin (also German) was a rockstar AND a lawyer at 17.
** Kristoph Gavin (also also German) was a well established defense attorney by 25.
** Miles Edgeworth (partially raised in Germany) had his court debut at 20.
** In Turnabout Beginnings, the victim, Valerie Hawthorne's age is listed as 23. She was a policewoman, and was so even five years ago...''when she was 18''.
** In Rise From The Ashes, Lana Skye was 29 and Chief Prosecutor. Two years before that, she was a highly ranked and very well respected detective who was only getting ready to become a prosecutor in the first place. Also, she is shown wearing 3 Prosecutor of the Year awards, [[BrokeTheRatingScale despite being a prosecutor for only 2 years.]]
** While Manfred von Karma is much older than any other prosecutor in the series, it should be noted that he went undefeated for 40 years, meaning he started his successful career at the age of 25. [[spoiler: Who knows when the [[AmoralAttorney forgeries started.]]]]
** As of ''Dual Destinies'', Athena Cykes is the youngest person known to become a defense attorney, having joined the Wright Anything Agency at the age of 18.
** Simon Blackquill had to have started prosecuting some time before he was twenty-one, when he was arrested, and since his courtroom tactics are so well-known even after seven years in prison, it's likely he started sooner rather than later.
** ''Dual Destinies'' also reveals that there's a law school known as the Themis Legal Academy that teaches students to be attorneys, prosecutors, and judges at high-school ages. [[spoiler: One of the students at Themis is [[OlderThanTheyLook actually 25]], having been held back repeatedly for seven years. In our world, 25 would still be fairly young for a senior Law student, but everyone in-universe is shocked by how old he is.]]
*** Considering that Klavier and Sebastian Debeste from ''Investigations 2'' are both confirmed alumni of Themis and both began prosecuting at age seventeen, lawyers and judges in their late teens may actually be the norm in the ''Ace Attorney'' universe.

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* In real life, one can reasonably expect to start a career in law in their late twenties. In ''Franchise/AceAttorney'', on the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' games, only three other hand?
** Only four
of the attorneys that appear in the first two games original trilogy appear to be out of their twenties: Winston Payne, Marvin Grossberg, Godot, and Manfred von Karma.Karma[[note]]While von Karma is much older than any other prosecutor in the series, it should be noted that he went undefeated for 40 years, meaning he started his successful career at the age of 25.[[/note]]. Of course, considering all the other idiosyncrasies of the justice system as presented in the games, ridiculously young attorneys are pretty much par for the course. In some places it's possible to be a lawyer without going through grad school, but really, it's all just [[HandWave handwaved]].
** Godot's age on his profile in-game simply says ??. [[spoiler:However, Godot In some characters' cases this is Diego Armando, who was 27 in the events of Turnabout Beginnings, which was 6 years prior HandWaved by saying they went were born/raised/went to the events of ''Trials and Tribulations'', meaning that Godot is now around 33 years old, making him the only one of Phoenix's rivals older than 30 in their debut appearance.]]
** Phoenix had passed his bar exam by the time he was 24. [[spoiler:Lost his badge at 26, became a mentor to Apollo Justice at 33, and then regaining his badge at 34.]]
** Mia Fey passed her bar exam by the time she was 23, and had her own law office by the time she was 27.
** Franziska von Karma became a lawyer at only 13. They kind of explain it as being a result of her being born and raised
school in Germany, that land of remarkably progressive laws and very easy bar exams.
** Calisto Yew was 23 when
exams. Miles Edgeworth met her, debuted at 20, Franziska von Karma debuted at 13, and she'd been practicing law for at least a couple of years. [[spoiler: Not that she Klavier Gavin was actually a lawyer, but nobody seemed to doubt she was one due to age or incompetence.]]
** Apollo Justice himself is even younger than Phoenix when he becomes
a lawyer (22). At his age, he should be finishing college or just starting law school!
** And then you have Adrian Andrews,
''and'' a 23 year old manager, Ron [=DeLite=], a 22 year old Chief of Security... let's face it, the ''Ace Attorney'' series hates old people.rockstar at age 17.
** Klavier Gavin (also German) was a rockstar AND a lawyer at 17.
** Kristoph Gavin (also also German) was a well established defense attorney by 25.
** Miles Edgeworth (partially raised in Germany) had his court debut at 20.
** In Turnabout Beginnings, the victim, Valerie Hawthorne's age is listed as 23. She was a policewoman, and was so even five years ago...''when she was 18''.
** In Rise From The Ashes,
Lana Skye was 29 and Chief Prosecutor. Two years before that, she was a highly ranked and very well respected detective who was only getting ready to become a prosecutor in the first place. Also, she is shown wearing 3 Prosecutor of the Year awards, [[BrokeTheRatingScale despite being a prosecutor for only 2 years.]] Simon Blackquill had to have started prosecuting some time before he was twenty-one, when he was arrested, and since his courtroom tactics are so well-known even after seven years in prison, it's likely he started sooner rather than later.
** The defense attorneys get hit with this trope too. Mia Fey passed her bar exam by the time she was 23, and had her own law office by the time she was 27. Her protege Phoenix joins her at 24. Apollo Justice himself is even younger than Phoenix when he becomes a lawyer (22), but Athena Cykes beats all of them by joining the Wright Anything Agency at ''18.'' (Also HandWaved by her studying in Europe.) Kristoph Gavin was also famous and well-established by 25. Calisto Yew was 23 when Edgeworth met her, and she'd been practicing law for at least a couple of years. [[spoiler: Not that she was actually a lawyer, but nobody seemed to doubt she was one due to age or incompetence.
]]
** While Manfred von Karma This doesn't just apply to those with careers in law. Adrian Andrews is much older than any other prosecutor in the series, it should be noted that he went undefeated for 40 years, meaning he started his successful career at the age a 23 year old manager, Ron [=DeLite=], a 22 year old Chief of 25. [[spoiler: Who knows when the [[AmoralAttorney forgeries started.]]]]
** As of ''Dual Destinies'', Athena Cykes is the youngest person known to become a defense attorney, having joined the Wright Anything Agency at the age of 18.
** Simon Blackquill had to have started prosecuting some time before he
Security, Valerie Hawthorne was twenty-one, when he was arrested, and since his courtroom tactics are so well-known even after seven years in prison, it's likely he started sooner rather than later.
a policeman at 18...
** ''Dual Destinies'' also reveals that there's a law school known as the Themis Legal Academy that teaches students to be attorneys, prosecutors, and judges at high-school ages. [[spoiler: One of the students at Themis is [[OlderThanTheyLook actually 25]], having been held back repeatedly for seven years. In our world, 25 would still be fairly young for a senior Law student, but everyone in-universe is shocked by how old he is.]]
***
]] Considering that Klavier and Sebastian Debeste from ''Investigations 2'' are both confirmed alumni of Themis and both began prosecuting at age seventeen, lawyers and judges in their late teens may actually be the norm in the ''Ace Attorney'' universe.
13th Aug '17 5:43:26 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ''Manga/{{Mahoromatic}}'' pulls a similar thing, where Suguru's teacher, a [[ShotaCon comedically-perverted]] teacher nearing ChristmasCake status, appears in a DistantFinale yet looks exactly the same.

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* ''Manga/{{Mahoromatic}}'' pulls a similar thing, where Suguru's teacher, a [[ShotaCon comedically-perverted]] comedically-perverted teacher nearing ChristmasCake status, appears in a DistantFinale yet looks exactly the same.
12th Aug '17 7:50:57 AM ladyofthelibrary
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** It's not ''as'' bizarre and it's a lifestyle instead of anything outright career related but Lucy is a Goth at age 8, complete with full on hair dye with the family's reactions indicating she's been living the lifestyle for at least a couple of years, which, given that in RealLife, most Goth get into the style as teens, is a little out there.
2nd Aug '17 6:33:07 PM varkarrus
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* Malo from ''VideoGame/TwilightPrincess'' is a somewhere between 4 and 6 years old... and running a successful business enterprise and crushing his enemies under his heel.
30th Jul '17 6:27:19 AM Argon2
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* In Landish's ''Club X'' series, Lynn- a woman in her thirties- runs a highly successful business catering to the wealthy, can effortlessly intimidate mafia goons, and gives invariably correct advice to the protagonists in her spare time. None of them understand how she does it.
19th Jul '17 5:57:48 AM Rarefoil
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-> ''“So let me recap: [[Characters/SonicTheHedgehog Amy]] is evidently a millionaire, dresses up in a fancy dinner dress, she's a [[VideoGame/SonicUnleashed globe trotter]], high school drop out, [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 ex-terrorist]], [[VideoGame/SonicChronicles highly ranked military official]], [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog ghost hunter]], [[VideoGame/MarioAndSonicAtTheOlympicGames a potential gold medal winner in 3 different Olympics of at least 4 disciples each...]] and not one parent or child service agent in sight. Look at this list. Is there ONE part of Amy's character that makes you point and go, 'Yup! That's a 12 year old girl alright!'”''

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-> ''“So let me recap: [[Characters/SonicTheHedgehog [[Characters/SonicTheHedgehogTeamRose Amy]] is evidently a millionaire, dresses up in a fancy dinner dress, she's a [[VideoGame/SonicUnleashed globe trotter]], high school drop out, [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 ex-terrorist]], [[VideoGame/SonicChronicles highly ranked military official]], [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog ghost hunter]], [[VideoGame/MarioAndSonicAtTheOlympicGames a potential gold medal winner in 3 different Olympics of at least 4 disciples each...]] and not one parent or child service agent in sight. Look at this list. Is there ONE part of Amy's character that makes you point and go, 'Yup! That's a 12 year old girl alright!'”''
17th Jul '17 8:56:20 AM Goder12345
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** Now also Hughes Curro (32) and Sherry Allison (24), from the oncoming ''Gundam 0081''. Erik Blanque from the same show is a borderline case, as he's 20. There's also a number of older characters in the spinoffs like MS IGLOO.

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** Now also Hughes Curro Courand (32) and Sherry Cherie Allison (24), from the oncoming ''Gundam 0081''. Erik Blanque Blanke from the same show is a borderline case, as he's 20. 20.Other older pilots would be Bork Cry(28) from Cross Dimensions:0079, Luce Kassel(30) from Space: To the End of a Flash and Travis Kirkland(39) from the Missing Link. There's also a number of older characters in the spinoffs like MS IGLOO.IGLOO..
30th Jun '17 10:57:32 AM HarpieSiren
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*** The youngest of them all is cute little Onion Knight. People who think he's Luneth generally have him at 15, while people who think he's one of the Onion Kids from the original FF3 tend to estimate around the ripe old age of 12.

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*** The youngest of them all is cute little Onion Knight. People who think he's Luneth generally Knight, he doesn't have him at 15, while people who think he's one of a stated age, but the Onion Kids from the original FF3 tend to estimate around general consensus is the ripe old age of 12.''12''.
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