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23rd Mar '17 11:09:45 AM Monolaf317
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** {{Parodied}} in Episode 9.

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** {{Parodied}} in Episode 9. Note that this exchange entirely takes place in the bathroom stalls of the girls' room.



'''Mackenzie, Trisha, and Brittnay:''' ''[[BigWhat W-WHAT?]]''\\

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'''Mackenzie, Trisha, and Brittnay:''' ''[[BigWhat W-WHAT?]]''\\WHAT?]]''\\
23rd Mar '17 11:08:15 AM Monolaf317
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'''Mackenzie, Trisha, and Brittnay:''' ''[[BigWhat What?]]''\\
'''Deandra:''' I mean... I-already--did--''not''-''knew''--about that.

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'''Mackenzie, Trisha, and Brittnay:''' ''[[BigWhat What?]]''\\
W-WHAT?]]''\\
'''Deandra:''' I mean... I-already--did--''not''-''knew''--about I-already--did--''not''--''knew''--about that.
23rd Mar '17 11:07:28 AM Monolaf317
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--->'''Trisha:''' Apparently, the Van Buren family poisoned our pre-pep rally Pineapple juice.\\

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--->'''Trisha:''' Apparently, the Van Buren family [[LaxativePrank poisoned our pre-pep rally Pineapple juice.\\]]\\



'''Deandra:''' I mean... I-already-did ''not''-''knew''-about that.

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'''Deandra:''' I mean... I-already-did ''not''-''knew''-about I-already--did--''not''-''knew''--about that.
23rd Mar '17 10:59:45 AM Monolaf317
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--->'''Jeffrey (the cheater):''' You all saw it. The door was opened; it was an optical illusion. He used that periscope.
--->'''[=MacGyver=]: '''That's right, he did. That's exactly what he did. But you had no way of knowing that. Jeffrey, you opened the door, but you never looked inside. You never saw a periscope—at least, not this afternoon.

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--->'''Jeffrey -->'''Jeffrey (the cheater):''' You all saw it. The door was opened; it was an optical illusion. He used that periscope.
--->'''[=MacGyver=]: '''That's -->'''[=MacGyver=]:''' That's right, he did. That's exactly what he did. But you had no way of knowing that. Jeffrey, you opened the door, but you never looked inside. You never saw a periscope—at least, not this afternoon.
10th Mar '17 8:52:23 PM MyFinalEdits
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* There was an episode of ''Series/TheShield'' that used this trope very subtly. They mention to a suspect that the victims' clothing was found. When the suspect mentions the burned clothing, the interrogator doesn't react at all, and if you're not watching very closely you won't even know why she has a contented look on her face after the interview. Unlike most instances of this trope, the detectives don't gloat to the suspect or do anything else to let the audience in on what's going on.
** Also, during season 3 of ''Series/TheShield'', while the Money Train heist is being investigated, [[spoiler: Vic lets slip the name of a club he shouldn't know about to Dutch (one of the best detectives in the station). Vic even has a tiny, private OhCrap reaction right after letting it out.]]
* In the ''Series/DoctorWho'' serial ''The Keys of Marinus'', Susan is kidnapped and her captor forces her to speak to Barbara over a futuristic alien phone. Later, the kidnapper accidentally lets it slip in conversation that she is aware they have spoken to Susan, even though it was not mentioned. This allows Barbara to realize her guilt.

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* ''Series/TheShield'':
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There was an episode of ''Series/TheShield'' that used this trope very subtly. They mention to a suspect that the victims' clothing was found. When the suspect mentions the burned clothing, the interrogator doesn't react at all, and if you're not watching very closely you won't even know why she has a contented look on her face after the interview. Unlike most instances of this trope, the detectives don't gloat to the suspect or do anything else to let the audience in on what's going on.
** Also, during During season 3 of ''Series/TheShield'', 3, while the Money Train heist is being investigated, [[spoiler: Vic lets slip the name of a club he shouldn't know about to Dutch (one of the best detectives in the station). Vic even has a tiny, private OhCrap reaction right after letting it out.]]
* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
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In the ''Series/DoctorWho'' serial ''The Keys of Marinus'', Susan is kidnapped and her captor forces her to speak to Barbara over a futuristic alien phone. Later, the kidnapper accidentally lets it slip in conversation that she is aware they have spoken to Susan, even though it was not mentioned. This allows Barbara to realize her guilt.
10th Mar '17 5:56:56 PM luiz4200
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* ''WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends'': Bloo once Jackie Khones found Madame Foster's favorite doily in "Penny Saved".
-->'''Bloo:''' I wonder how that got shoved under the squeaky top stair?
-->'''Jackie:''' Hey! How did you know it was under the squeaky top stair?
-->'''Bloo:''' Lucky guess?
4th Mar '17 9:16:38 PM neckinhalf
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** Also, during season 3 of ''Series/TheShield'', while the Money Train heist is being investigated, [[spoiler: Vic lets slip the name of a club he shouldn't know about to Dutch (one of the best detectives in the station). Vic even has a tiny, private OhCrap reaction right after letting it out.]]
4th Mar '17 2:48:25 PM Gosicrystal
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* In ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'', this is how Sigma gets [[spoiler:Dio]] to reveal they were the one who [[spoiler:planted the bombs]] in some of the routes. Sigma reveals, from information he gathered [[spoiler:from time-jumps]], that he knows about the Myrmidons, and about Brother. [[spoiler:Dio]] insists they don't know anything about ''who'' the Myrmidons are, and they don't know anything about some ''old fart'' like Brother. Well, Sigma never actually mentioned the Myrmidons were people or that Brother, their leader, was an old man, so how would [[spoiler:Dio]] know that... unless the Myrmidons sent them?

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* In ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'', this is how Sigma gets [[spoiler:Dio]] to reveal they were the one who [[spoiler:planted the bombs]] in some of the routes. Sigma reveals, from information he gathered [[spoiler:from time-jumps]], time jumps]], that he this person knows about the Myrmidons, and about Brother. [[spoiler:Dio]] insists they don't know anything about ''who'' the Myrmidons are, and they don't know anything about some ''old fart'' like Brother. Well, Sigma never actually mentioned the Myrmidons were people or that Brother, their leader, was an old man, so how would [[spoiler:Dio]] know that... unless the Myrmidons sent them?
4th Mar '17 2:47:32 PM Gosicrystal
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*** Case 3, "Recipe for a Turnabout". In this case, everyone up to this points knows several public facts: [[spoiler: the victim was poisoned, he was in a cafe, and that it was supposedly done by a waitress]]. At the last critical moment, a SmokingGun is introduced in the form of [[spoiler:a green bottle... which turns out to be totally useless. Phoenix rolls with it and tries to trick the villain of the chapter by saying that was the bottle that held the poison, however the villain knows the Green bottle wasn't it because it was a brown bottle, and thus his evidence against him is moot.... then several moments later the court reminds him that that information has not once been made public knowledge, so he shouldn't know that. Cue him realizing he just identified himself.]]

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*** Case 3, "Recipe for a Turnabout". In this case, everyone up to this points knows several public facts: [[spoiler: the victim was poisoned, he was in a cafe, restaurant, and that it was supposedly done by a waitress]].waitress. At the last critical moment, a SmokingGun is introduced in the form of [[spoiler:a green bottle... which turns out to be totally useless. useless]]. Phoenix rolls [[spoiler:rolls with it and and]] tries to trick the villain of the chapter by saying that was the bottle that held the poison, however the villain knows the Green bottle wasn't it because it was a brown bottle, and thus his evidence against him is moot.... then moot... Then several moments later the court reminds him that that information has not once been made public knowledge, so he shouldn't know that. Cue him realizing he just identified himself.]]



*** The first case plays with this. The decisive evidence is actually (unbeknownst to the protagonist) fake, but the culprit cannot reveal this without also revealing that he took the real one and incriminating himself anyway.
*** In the third case, an apparent witness who's trying to convince the court that she didn't see the crime slips up and mentions that the victim was shot. The crime was put on a "gag order", so no one apart from those investigating it, or someone who saw the crime happen, should know those types of details. [[spoiler:It actually turns out she was telling the truth when she said she didn't SEE the crime. She's secretly blind.]]

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*** The first case plays with this. The decisive evidence is actually (unbeknownst to the protagonist) fake, but the culprit cannot reveal this without also revealing that he took the real one and incriminating himself one, which incriminates themselves anyway.
*** In the third case, an apparent witness who's trying to convince the court that she didn't see the crime slips up and mentions that the victim was shot. The crime was put on a "gag order", so no one apart from those investigating it, or someone who saw the crime happen, should know those types of details. [[spoiler:It actually turns out she was telling the truth when she said she didn't SEE the crime. She's secretly blind.blind, and only heard the shot as she was crawling through the air vent on top of the crime scene (ItMakesSenseInContext).]]



* In ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'', [[spoiler: this is how Sigma gets Dio to reveal he was the one who planted the bombs in some of the routes. Sigma reveals, from information he gathered from time-jumps, that he knows about the Myrmidons, and about Brother. Dio insists he doesn't know anything about ''who'' the Myrmidons are, and he doesn't know anything about some ''old fart'' like Brother. Well, Sigma never actually mentioned the Myrmidons were people or that Brother, their leader, was an old man, so how would Dio know that...unless they sent him?]]

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* In ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'', [[spoiler: this is how Sigma gets Dio [[spoiler:Dio]] to reveal he was they were the one who planted [[spoiler:planted the bombs bombs]] in some of the routes. Sigma reveals, from information he gathered from time-jumps, [[spoiler:from time-jumps]], that he knows about the Myrmidons, and about Brother. Dio [[spoiler:Dio]] insists he doesn't they don't know anything about ''who'' the Myrmidons are, and he doesn't they don't know anything about some ''old fart'' like Brother. Well, Sigma never actually mentioned the Myrmidons were people or that Brother, their leader, was an old man, so how would Dio [[spoiler:Dio]] know that...that... unless they the Myrmidons sent him?]]them?
18th Feb '17 12:19:42 AM Daeolus
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** On another episode, Castle and Beckett interview the brother of a serial killer who had previously been convicted at a trial whose key witnesses are now being murdered one by one. He points out that he's been locked in an insane asylum since the trial, so who could he have sent to kill the two witnesses? Castle points out they only mentioned [[INeverSaidItWasPoison one murder]]. (Turns out he totally didn't do it, he was just having someone follow the murders and try to stop the real killer, precisely because he knew he ''would'' look guilty.)

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** On another episode, Castle and Beckett interview the brother of a serial killer who had previously been convicted at a trial whose key witnesses are now being murdered one by one. He points out that he's been locked in an insane asylum since the trial, so who could he have sent to kill the two witnesses? Castle points out they only mentioned [[INeverSaidItWasPoison one murder]]."one" murder. (Turns out he totally didn't do it, he was just having someone follow the murders and try to stop the real killer, precisely because he knew he ''would'' look guilty.)
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