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30th May '16 11:12:52 AM Kadorhal
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A black cylinder that screws [[GunAccessories to the end]] of any gun, from pistol to massive rifle, and reduces the bang to a soft "[-[[UnsoundEffect fwip]]-]" that nobody will hear. This sound is an example of TheCoconutEffect.

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A black cylinder that screws [[GunAccessories to the end]] of any gun, from tiny pistol to massive rifle, and reduces the bang to a soft "[-[[UnsoundEffect fwip]]-]" that nobody will hear. This sound is an example of TheCoconutEffect.



* It is entirely possible to create a truly "silent" weapon, but the major performance tradeoffs required tend to make them rare in RealLife. Requirements include: a purpose built internally-suppressed design[[note]]Screw-on "muzzle cans" aren't efficient enough[[/note]], lower-powered subsonic ammo[[note]]Supersonic bullets produce the "crack" of a mini sonic boom[[/note]], and a single-shot or bolt-action[[note]]Semi-autos produce noise as the bolt forcefully clacks back and forth[[/note]]. This leaves the sound of the bullet striking the target as the only audible product. What you tend to end up with is a cumbersome, low-powered, short-ranged rifle with a very low rate of fire: real (as the examples below indicate), but [[CripplingOverspecialization of limited usefulness]] and [[BoringButPractical not exactly Hollywood material]]. Most people who have a need to lower their weapon's sound signature these days typically straddle a line between "totally silent but slow and short-ranged" and "totally noisy but powerful and long ranged".
* The most important thing is not silencing the weapon to a ''fwip'', but changing the noise [[TheCoconutEffect to less resemble the sound of actual gunfire]]. Once the supersonic *crack* is dispensed with by using subsonic ammo, a suppressor's primary benefit is in making it harder to identify or locate the noise it does produce. In a noisy urban environment, cars and heavy trucks running around, people talking or shouting, TV sets adding to the noise, a muted *pop* goes unnoticed as long as witnesses can mentally dismiss it as some common, incidental noise: somebody dropping an object, a door closing, etc.

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* It is entirely possible to create a truly "silent" weapon, but the major performance tradeoffs required tend to make them rare in RealLife. Requirements include: a purpose built internally-suppressed purpose-built integrally-suppressed design[[note]]Screw-on "muzzle cans" aren't efficient enough[[/note]], lower-powered subsonic ammo[[note]]Supersonic bullets produce the "crack" of a mini sonic boom[[/note]], and a single-shot or bolt-action[[note]]Semi-autos produce noise as the bolt forcefully clacks back and forth[[/note]]. This leaves the sound of the bullet striking the target as the only audible product. What you tend to end up with is a cumbersome, low-powered, short-ranged rifle with a very low rate of fire: real (as the examples below indicate), but [[CripplingOverspecialization of limited usefulness]] and [[BoringButPractical not exactly Hollywood material]]. Most people who have a need to lower their weapon's sound signature these days typically straddle a line between "totally silent but slow and short-ranged" and "totally noisy but powerful and long ranged".
* The most important thing is not silencing the weapon to a ''fwip'', but changing the noise [[TheCoconutEffect to less resemble the sound of actual gunfire]]. Once the supersonic *crack* ''crack'' is dispensed with by using subsonic ammo, a suppressor's primary benefit is in making it harder to identify or locate the noise it does produce. In a noisy urban environment, cars and heavy trucks running around, people talking or shouting, TV sets adding to the noise, a muted *pop* goes "pop" could go unnoticed as long as witnesses can mentally dismiss it as some common, incidental noise: somebody dropping an object, a door closing, etc.



* In real life, suppressors are attached by an extended externally threaded gunbarrel. It's not screwed-in like in the movies. But the PB silenced pistol has a suppressor that is attached by screwing in the barrel, so it can be for suppressors to be put that way.

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* In real life, suppressors are attached by an extended externally threaded gunbarrel. It's not screwed-in like in the movies. But the PB silenced pistol has a suppressor that is attached by screwing in the barrel, so it can be for suppressors to be put that way.
30th May '16 7:35:59 AM AnotherGuy
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"Real" Silencers as used by governmental agencies do indeed muffle the sound of a gunshot to the same degree as seen in films and television, but these are custom designed weapons rather than aftermarket add-ons.

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"Real" Silencers as used by governmental agencies do indeed muffle the sound of a gunshot to the same degree as seen in films and television, but these are custom designed weapons rather than aftermarket add-ons.
add-ons. In addition, they're not exactly ''silent'', sounding like a loud cough.
29th May '16 10:08:59 PM Kadorhal
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* ''VideoGame/FarCry2'' has the Dart Rifle. The Sniper Rifle thwipping puts enemies on alert without revealing your exact location, unless the round goes whizzing past someone's head, in which case they will immediately find you, the Silenced [=MP5=] is only slightly quieter than without silencer, however the same basic detection rules as with the Dart Rifle seem to apply. The Silenced Makarov [=6P9=] is complete with thwip, and has same rules for stealth.
** ''VideoGame/FarCry3'' plays the trope very straight, allowing hollywood silencers on almost every weapon with no apparent downsides other than that the player has to choose between that or another attachment like a better sight or an extended magazine.

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* ''VideoGame/FarCry2'' has three silenced weapons, one per slot - the primary Silenced [=MP5=], the secondary Silenced Makarov [=6P9=], and the special Dart Rifle. The Sniper Rifle weapons zig-zag between Hollywood twhipping (Makarov and Dart Rifle) or more realistic ([=MP5=]), but the rules for detection are a bit more realistic - the thwipping still puts enemies on alert alert, just without revealing your exact location, location unless the round goes whizzing past someone's head, in which case they will immediately find you, the Silenced [=MP5=] is only slightly quieter than without silencer, however the same basic detection rules as with the Dart Rifle seem to apply. The Silenced Makarov [=6P9=] is complete with thwip, and has same rules for stealth.
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** ''VideoGame/FarCry3'' plays and ''[[VideoGame/FarCry4 4]]'' play the trope very straight, allowing hollywood silencers on almost every weapon with no apparent downsides other than that the player has to choose between that or another attachment like a better sight or an extended magazine. Particularly jarring is that none of the weapons have unique suppressor models - the tiny 9x18mm [=6P9=] and the massive .50 BMG Z93 sniper rifle can fit the same suppressor model, and it's just as effective on both of them. The same rules for detection as in ''2'' apply in both games - the only true silent long-range kill is the recurve bow.



* ''VideoGame/Halo3ODST'' features the [=M7S=] and the [=M6C/SOCOM=], a sound suppressed sub-machine gun and pistol (respectively). They do not sound realistic and Bungie attests that they simply followed the RuleOfCool, seen in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRFfYoLm-QA this video]]. While the actual gun noises are just TheCoconutEffect, the enemies' reactions to the firing of a silenced weapon are realistic. Especially on Legendary, the enemies are still very likely to notice you even if you one-shot a Grunt in a secluded area with a silenced weapon.
** Funnily enough, the Behind-The-Scenes video released before ''ODST'' revealed they actually made the guns sound ''louder'' than usual.

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* ''VideoGame/Halo3ODST'' features the [=M7S=] and the [=M6C/SOCOM=], a sound suppressed sub-machine gun and pistol (respectively). They do not sound realistic and Bungie attests that they simply followed the RuleOfCool, seen in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRFfYoLm-QA this video]]. While the actual gun noises are just TheCoconutEffect, the enemies' reactions to the firing of a silenced weapon are realistic. Especially on Legendary, the enemies are still very likely to notice you even if you one-shot a Grunt in a secluded area with a silenced weapon.
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weapon. Funnily enough, the Behind-The-Scenes video released before ''ODST'' revealed they actually made the guns sound ''louder'' than usual.usual before release.
23rd May '16 4:39:37 PM G-MANN
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** In ''Film/GoldenEye'' 's pre-credits sequence, agent 006 Alec Trevelyan dispatches a lab technician with his silenced pistol and later uses it to shoot the first two Soviet troops that respond to the alarm in the gas tank room (the rest he blows away with an AK-47 he takes off one of the first two troops). Each time his gun makes an innocuous "pyoot" sound. The same noise is also made by Bond's little grappling hook gun he uses during the bungee jump off the dam.
28th Apr '16 11:27:01 PM MrReviser121
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* In real life, suppressors are attached by an extended externally threaded gunbarrel. It's not screwed-in like in the movies. But the PB silenced pistol has a suppressor that is attached by screwing in the barrel, so it can be for suppressors to be put that way.
22nd Apr '16 2:31:42 PM eroock
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* The 1972 French comedy ''The Tall Blond Man with One Black Shoe'' featured several government spies with silenced guns that, when fired, emitted only a puff of smoke with no sound at all.

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* The 1972 French comedy ''The Tall Blond Man with One Black Shoe'' ''Film/TheTallBlondManWithOneBlackShoe'' featured several government spies with silenced guns that, when fired, emitted only a puff of smoke with no sound at all.
10th Apr '16 6:49:04 PM jmackaerospace
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The idea of the Hollywood Silencer is so prevalent that real silencers were commercially rebranded as "suppressors" in the 1970s to emphasize that they do not make weapons completely silent, merely lower in volume and harder to directionally locate; a suppressed gunshot still sounds like a gunshot, just more diffuse and easier to mistake for something else in an otherwise-noisy environment, and a suppressor does absolutely nothing to quiet the sound of the physical mechanism (the trigger being pulled, the hammer falling, the slide working, etc). Shooting off a "silenced" pistol in a barracks filled with sleeping {{mooks}}, for example, would still be [[WithCatlikeTread unlikely to turn out well for the hero]].

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The idea of the Hollywood Silencer is so prevalent that real silencers were commercially rebranded as "suppressors" in the 1970s to emphasize that they do not make weapons completely silent, merely lower cash in volume and harder to directionally locate; a suppressed gunshot still sounds like a gunshot, just more diffuse and easier to mistake for something else in an otherwise-noisy environment, and a suppressor does absolutely nothing to quiet the sound of the physical mechanism (the trigger being pulled, the hammer falling, the slide working, etc). Shooting off a on HandCannon owners who wanted RuleOfCool but might become litigeous when their "silenced" pistol in a barracks filled with sleeping {{mooks}}, for example, would still be [[WithCatlikeTread unlikely to turn out well for the hero]].
made an ear-shattering kaboom.



Spotting a silenced ''revolver'' is a definite sign that the work is not [[{{Pun}} gunning]] for realism.[[note]]There is a gap between barrel and cylinder: real ones make a loud noise even with a silencer on the front. Some revolvers like the Nagant Model 1895 can be suppressed because the gap is sealed when firing but this can not be achieved through just a do-hicky on the barrel. Then again, TechnologyMarchesOn -- see [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0 this revolver silencer]] outdoors muffling almost all the noise of the Nagant.[[/note]] Please see [[UsefulNotes/{{Silencers}} Useful Notes On Silencers]] for more on how they actually do work.

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Spotting a silenced ''revolver'' is used to be a definite sign that the work is not [[{{Pun}} gunning]] for realism.[[note]]There is a gap between barrel and cylinder: real ones make a loud noise even with a silencer on the front. Some realism. But TechnologyMarchesOn, some revolvers like the Nagant Model 1895 can be suppressed because the cylinder gap is sealed when firing but this can not be achieved through just a do-hicky on the barrel. Then again, TechnologyMarchesOn firing -- see [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0 this revolver silencer]] outdoors muffling almost all the noise of the Nagant.[[/note]] Nagant.

"Real" Silencers as used by governmental agencies do indeed muffle the sound of a gunshot to the same degree as seen in films and television, but these are custom designed weapons rather than aftermarket add-ons.

Please see [[UsefulNotes/{{Silencers}} Useful Notes On Silencers]] for more on how they actually do work.
10th Mar '16 12:49:46 PM Morgenthaler
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* In possibly one of the worst offenses ever, during the second season of ''PrisonBreak'', an assassin from The Company is sent after Lincoln Burrows and his family. The assassin breaks in and shoots one of Lincoln's father's bodyguards with a silenced pistol. No one could hear the gunshot (or the body hitting the floor), but apparently Lincoln's ears are so good that he could hear ''the shell hitting the floor'' from the other side of the (huge) house instead of the gunshot.

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* In possibly one of the worst offenses ever, during the second season of ''PrisonBreak'', ''Series/PrisonBreak'', an assassin from The Company is sent after Lincoln Burrows and his family. The assassin breaks in and shoots one of Lincoln's father's bodyguards with a silenced pistol. No one could hear the gunshot (or the body hitting the floor), but apparently Lincoln's ears are so good that he could hear ''the shell hitting the floor'' from the other side of the (huge) house instead of the gunshot.
9th Mar '16 12:39:17 PM Hossmeister
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* In ''BetterOffTed'', Veronica keeps a silenced pistol in her office for stress relief that when fired makes a light *Thwip* sound. It is implied that she does this frequently without anyone noticing.

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* In ''BetterOffTed'', ''Series/BetterOffTed'', Veronica keeps a silenced pistol in her office for stress relief that when fired makes a light *Thwip* sound. It is implied that she does this frequently without anyone noticing.
4th Feb '16 5:02:30 AM REV6Pilot
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* Played straighter than a light beam in ''VideoGame/SoldierOfFortune II: Double Helix'', almost to the point of exaggeration. The silenced US SOCOM pistol fires more quietly than a falling cloth, enemies die completely silently, and even if they're not hit fatally, they don't react at all to being shot, nor does anyone else.
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