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14th Nov '17 9:42:25 AM REV6Pilot
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** New Vegas also features a partial aversion to this with "Hardcore Mode" - where (among other things) ammo has weight. At first, it doesn't make much of a difference when individual bullets weigh 1/15 to 1/10 of a pound - but when players start acquiring automatic weapons that eat bullets like candy, or come across rocket launchers whose individual rockets weigh two pounds apiece, it really starts to cut down on what you can carry compared to normal mode. (Though even in hardcore, there are many completely weightless items - including gunpowder and shell casings.) This is made more annoying by many junk items used for crafting being exactly 1 pound, an apparent default value, even if it makes no sense. Somehow a scalpel, forceps, and a ''single tin can'' all weigh a whole pound each.

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** New Vegas also features a partial aversion to this [[DownplayedTrope whitewash]] with "Hardcore Mode" - where (among other things) ammo has weight. At first, it doesn't make much of a difference when individual bullets weigh 1/15 to 1/10 of a pound - but when players start acquiring automatic weapons that eat bullets like candy, or come across rocket launchers whose individual rockets weigh two pounds apiece, it really starts to cut down on what you can carry compared to normal mode. (Though even in hardcore, there are many completely weightless items - including gunpowder and shell casings.) This is made more annoying by many junk items used for crafting being exactly 1 pound, an apparent default value, even if it makes no sense. Somehow a scalpel, forceps, and a ''single tin can'' all weigh a whole pound each.
1st Oct '17 7:51:15 PM Glaurung
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* Website/TheFantasyNovelistsExam provides the page quote, pointing out the ubiquity of this trope in fantasy novels inspired by {{Tabletop RPG}}s.
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24th Sep '17 12:44:25 PM SeptimusHeap
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* WE Johns fell into this trap in the novel ''{{Biggles}} and Co'', when a recently-demobbed Biggles was hired by a major bank who've been hit by a string of {{ArmedBlag}}s and think air-freighting their gold bullion might help. It doesn't; the gang responsible get hold of a small stunt-plane and a few machine guns and turn SkyPirate... but Biggles put the real gold under a false floor in the aircraft's cargo hold, and the robbers drive off in triumphant possession of a large quantity of lead. Now, the author makes an effort at a HandWave by never quite specifying how much gold is being transported, stating only that the individual crates can be lifted comfortably by two men. But nevertheless, carrying a significant amount of gold ''and'' an equivalent number of crates full of lead would be an impressive feat indeed for the cutting edge of 1920s aerospace engineering!

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* WE Johns fell into this trap in the novel ''{{Biggles}} ''Literature/{{Biggles}} and Co'', when a recently-demobbed Biggles was hired by a major bank who've been hit by a string of {{ArmedBlag}}s and think air-freighting their gold bullion might help. It doesn't; the gang responsible get hold of a small stunt-plane and a few machine guns and turn SkyPirate... but Biggles put the real gold under a false floor in the aircraft's cargo hold, and the robbers drive off in triumphant possession of a large quantity of lead. Now, the author makes an effort at a HandWave by never quite specifying how much gold is being transported, stating only that the individual crates can be lifted comfortably by two men. But nevertheless, carrying a significant amount of gold ''and'' an equivalent number of crates full of lead would be an impressive feat indeed for the cutting edge of 1920s aerospace engineering!



* ''ByTheGreatHornSpoon'' uses this twice. The first when the BattleButler knocks out a huge dude with a single punch. He's regarded as a MemeticBadass from that point onwards, due to the gold dust in his gloves giving it a lot of extra weight. The second when the same man, having struck it rich, falls overboard, and has to lose his clothing (which contained a large amount of his acquired gold) to avoid drowning.

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* ''ByTheGreatHornSpoon'' ''Literature/ByTheGreatHornSpoon'' uses this twice. The first when the BattleButler knocks out a huge dude with a single punch. He's regarded as a MemeticBadass from that point onwards, due to the gold dust in his gloves giving it a lot of extra weight. The second when the same man, having struck it rich, falls overboard, and has to lose his clothing (which contained a large amount of his acquired gold) to avoid drowning.
24th Sep '17 11:31:33 AM nombretomado
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* Averted in the ''{{Belgariad}}'' novels. When at a formal dinner in Mal Zeth, Belgarion is informed that he's in a position to make millions. Belgarion replies that he couldn't carry it: he knows how much that kind of money weighs. Polgara uses a similar argument when deciding to not empty out her account in the Sendarian royal treasury, taking only a minuscule percentage of the money for expenses (She also good reason to wish to be inconspicuous, which being visibly wealthy would interfere with).

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* Averted in the ''{{Belgariad}}'' ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' novels. When at a formal dinner in Mal Zeth, Belgarion is informed that he's in a position to make millions. Belgarion replies that he couldn't carry it: he knows how much that kind of money weighs. Polgara uses a similar argument when deciding to not empty out her account in the Sendarian royal treasury, taking only a minuscule percentage of the money for expenses (She also good reason to wish to be inconspicuous, which being visibly wealthy would interfere with).
1st Sep '17 12:10:26 PM AtticusOmundson
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* Averted in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Cyberchase}}''. Hacker kidnaps the King of Happily Ever After and will only return him for a ransom of 500 golden eggs. As they continue to collect more and more eggs, Eniz comments that she forget how heavy gold actually is. They are forced to ask a giant to help move the gold around after a while.
24th Aug '17 9:01:46 AM thatother1dude
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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain''. One of their first capers was to break into Fort Knox and steal all the nation's gold. Unfortunately, the two couldn't pick up even one brick.

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* Averted Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain''. One of their ''WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain'': Their very first capers caper was to break into Fort Knox and steal all the nation's gold. Unfortunately, the The two broke in, then realized they couldn't pick up even one brick.



* Density is a plot point in the ''WesternAnimation/ThunderCats'' episode "All That Glitters", with the fuel source [[{{Unobtainium}} Thundrillium]] being stated to be ''denser than gold''. Granted, the [=ThunderCats=] are all pretty strong (even those whose skills ''don't'' have anything to do with power still have a ridiculous amount of musculature for someone never shown pumping iron), but for something to be that dense and still of use as anything but a permanent doorstop...
12th Aug '17 8:31:05 PM thatother1dude
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** New Vegas also features a partial aversion to this with "Hardcore Mode" - where (among other things) ammo has weight. At first, it doesn't make much of a difference when individual bullets weigh 1/15 to 1/10 of a pound - but when players start acquiring automatic weapons that eat bullets like candy, or come across rocket launchers whose individual rockets weigh two pounds apiece, it really starts to cut down on what you can carry compared to normal mode. (Though even in hardcore, there are many completely weightless items - including gunpowder and shell casings.)
*** This is made more annoying by many junk items used for crafting being exactly 1 pound, even if it makes no sense. Somehow a scalpel, forceps, and a ''single tin can'' all weigh a whole pound each.

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** New Vegas also features a partial aversion to this with "Hardcore Mode" - where (among other things) ammo has weight. At first, it doesn't make much of a difference when individual bullets weigh 1/15 to 1/10 of a pound - but when players start acquiring automatic weapons that eat bullets like candy, or come across rocket launchers whose individual rockets weigh two pounds apiece, it really starts to cut down on what you can carry compared to normal mode. (Though even in hardcore, there are many completely weightless items - including gunpowder and shell casings.)
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) This is made more annoying by many junk items used for crafting being exactly 1 pound, an apparent default value, even if it makes no sense. Somehow a scalpel, forceps, and a ''single tin can'' all weigh a whole pound each.
2nd Aug '17 2:15:53 PM thatother1dude
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* In ''{{Film/Deadpool|2016}}'' the hero fills a duffel bag with a great many guns (mostly long arms) and what is stated to be 3000 rounds of ammunition. Unless composed entirely of punt .22's, the ammo alone would weigh closed to 100 pounds with the weapons themselves adding an equal amount. While this is nothing a SuperStrength character couldn't handle, the bag he puts it all in sits high up on his back as if it were filled with clothes.

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* In ''{{Film/Deadpool|2016}}'' ''Film/Deadpool2016'' the hero fills a duffel bag with a great many guns (mostly long arms) and what is stated to be 3000 rounds of ammunition. Unless composed entirely of punt .puny .22's, the ammo alone would weigh closed to 100 pounds with the weapons themselves adding an equal amount. While this is nothing a SuperStrength character couldn't handle, the bag he puts it all in sits high up on his back as if it were filled with clothes.
16th Jul '17 9:53:29 AM nombretomado
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* In ''Film/KellysHeroes'', TheCaper involves a squad of Allied soldiers in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII stealing $16 million in [[NaziGold gold bars]] from a bank behind German lines. In the WW2 era, the price of gold was fixed at $35 per troy ounce, so $16 million worth would weigh 15.67 U.S. short tons and have a volume of 26 cubic feet. It has been calculated that the writers grossly misrepresented the size and weight of that much gold given how much is visible in the movie and the means they use to carry it away.

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* In ''Film/KellysHeroes'', TheCaper involves a squad of Allied soldiers in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII stealing $16 million in [[NaziGold gold bars]] from a bank behind German lines. In the WW2 [=WW2=] era, the price of gold was fixed at $35 per troy ounce, so $16 million worth would weigh 15.67 U.S. short tons and have a volume of 26 cubic feet. It has been calculated that the writers grossly misrepresented the size and weight of that much gold given how much is visible in the movie and the means they use to carry it away.
1st Jul '17 10:53:16 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* ''Film/GIJoeTheRiseofCobra'' features an underwater ice-fall in the finale, though the ice was filled with metal, so possibly more likely. Ice floats because it is less dense than liquid water.

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* ''Film/GIJoeTheRiseofCobra'' ''Film/GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra'' features an underwater ice-fall in the finale, though the ice was filled with metal, so possibly more likely. Ice floats because it is less dense than liquid water.
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