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18th Feb '18 12:41:21 AM JackG
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* An Australian kidnapping case involved the ransom being dropped at the end of a jetty, where the kidnapper planned to swim in and collect it under the nose of police who would be looking for a boat. However he underestimated the weight of the ransom and had to hold onto a jetty pylon to catch his breath before he'd gone too far, where he was spotted by a plainclothes police officer staking out the jetty.
18th Feb '18 12:32:44 AM JackG
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* Averted in ''Assault on a Queen'' (1966). SubmarinePirates rub the ''Queen Mary'' of a shipment of gold bullion. However while the crew agree to hand over the gold to stop the ship from being torpedoed, they refuse to help carry the crates of gold. The robbers have to drag the small wooden crates across the deck to their submarine, watched by gaping passengers who have no idea there's a robbery in progress.
13th Feb '18 8:24:11 AM TheTraveller
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* On ''Series/ThirtyRock'', Kenneth has an idea for a game show in which contestants guess which suitcase being carried by models is filled with gold. The show was discontinued for being too easy, as one had only to look for the model who had trouble holding up the suitcase. This perhaps qualifies as both a lampshade ''and'' a straight example of this trope; even a small briefcase will have a volume of some 1,000 cubic inches, so one ''full'' of gold would weigh over 700 pounds. By comparison, the current deadlift record is just over 1,000 pounds, so you'd need to be a seriously ripped professional strongman to move that briefcase.

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* On ''Series/ThirtyRock'', Kenneth has an idea for a game show in which contestants guess which suitcase being carried by models is filled with gold. The show was discontinued for being too easy, as one had only to look for the model who had trouble holding up the suitcase. This perhaps qualifies as both a lampshade ''and'' a straight example of this trope; even a small briefcase will have a volume of some 1,000 cubic inches, so one ''full'' of gold would weigh over 700 pounds. By comparison, the current deadlift record is just over 1,000 pounds, so you'd need to be a seriously ripped professional strongman to even move that briefcase.



** To make this all sillier, no vendor in the game ever has more than 8,000 caps. It's impossible to sell even a single bar for its total value. Some have speculated that this is meant to tie into a theme of letting greed go. (The natural progression is to take out some in trade, but even then it is difficult to find a vendor with that much to spare.)

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** To make this all sillier, no vendor in the game ever has more than 8,000 caps. It's impossible to sell even a single bar for its total value. Some have speculated that this is meant to tie into a theme of letting greed go. (The go, as the inability to even find enough caps in the whole wasteland to make gathering all those bars worth it kind of makes the bars...[[TitleDrop Dead Money]] (the natural progression is to take out some in trade, but even then it is difficult to find a vendor with that much to spare.)spare).



* ''VideoGame/PAYDAY2'' averts this when the criminals abscond with their take, as their speed depends on what they're carrying. Carrying a rack of jewelry will barely slow a thief down, but carrying a duffel bag full of money keeps thieves from being able to jump or run. Carrying a bag of gold ingots will slow a thief to a crawl.

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* ''VideoGame/PAYDAY2'' averts this when the criminals abscond with their take, as their speed depends on what they're carrying. Carrying a rack of jewelry will barely slow a thief down, but carrying a duffel bag full of money keeps thieves from being able to jump or run. Carrying a bag of gold ingots will slow a thief to a crawl.crawl, while the [[spoiler:Nuclear Warheads]] you find in the Meltdown heist will slow them to an ''absolute'' crawl, forcing them to use other methods to transport the loot.


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**It's also mocked relentlessly with one specific loot item; Almir's Toast. Based off of a running gag, the Almir's Toast is...well, a giant grilled cheese sandwich. A grilled cheese sandwich that weighs pretty much the same as the [[spoiler:warheads]] and will barely let you move, and gives you '''$2.3 Million''' on the highest difficulty.
**In fact, [[http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/Loot according to game files]] there are no less than ''seven'' types of weight (though one is unused): Light[[note]]no movement penalty, only weight where you can still sprint[[/note]], Medium[[note]]no movement penalty, but cannot sprint[[/note]], Slightly Heavy[[note]]10% speed pentalty, 20% throwing penalty[[/note]], Heavy[[note]]25% movement penalty, 50% throwing and jumping penalty[[/note]], Slightly Very Heavy[[note]]Simiar to Heavy, but the throwing penalty is 35% and jumping is 75%[[/note]], Very Heavy[[note]]''62.5%'' movement penalty, 70% throwing penalty and 75% jumping penalty[[/note]] and Mega Heavy[[note]]This is the one that's unused; same as Very Heavy, only the throwing penalty increased to ''86.5%''. This used to be used soley for the Cold Fusion engines in Big Oil day 2, but updates reverted the engines to Very Heavy instead[[/note]].
3rd Feb '18 2:49:31 PM Discar
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** In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' and sequel (''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]''), TheKingdom (Orb) has their MechaMooks (Astray & Murasame) far lighter than TheFederation (OMNI) and TheAlliance (ZAFT), and in a way of LampshadeHanging/ HandWave, is made of [[IncrediblyLamePun Foaming]] [[AppliedPhlebotinum Metal]].

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** In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' and sequel (''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]''), TheKingdom the kingdom (Orb) has their MechaMooks (Astray & Murasame) far lighter than TheFederation (OMNI) and TheAlliance (ZAFT), and in a way of LampshadeHanging/ HandWave, is made of [[IncrediblyLamePun Foaming]] [[AppliedPhlebotinum Metal]].
9th Jan '18 8:38:07 AM BeerBaron
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** All ingots of metal weigh the same (1 unit). This includes gold, which would obviously be much denser than an iron or steel ingot of the same dimensions.

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** *** All ingots of metal weigh the same (1 unit). This includes gold, which would obviously be much denser than an iron or steel ingot of the same dimensions.
9th Jan '18 7:54:41 AM BeerBaron
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* Most fantasy C[=RPGs=] (such as ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights'', ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'') track encumbrance on items, but money is weightless, so it's permissible to walk around with five million gold coins without a sweat. On the other hand, the [=RPGs=] some of them are based on usually averts this: in D&D 3.5, 50 coins weigh [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCustomaryMeasurements a pound]]. Whether you take this into account depends on your DM.

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* Most fantasy C[=RPGs=] (such as ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights'', ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'') ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'', etc.) track encumbrance on items, but money is weightless, so it's permissible to walk around with five million gold coins without a sweat. On the other hand, the [=RPGs=] some of them are based on usually averts this: in D&D 3.5, 50 coins weigh [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCustomaryMeasurements a pound]]. Whether you take this into account depends on your DM.



** Throughout most of the series, [[CheapGoldCoins gold coins]] do not have a weight. Thanks to all of the series plentiful MoneyForNothing, it isn't unusual to see players running around with ''tens of thousands'' of gold coins, yet not be slowed in the slightest.
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]'' provides an exception to the above gold coin example. Gold coins do have weight (400 gold = 1kg), however, this is still in line with the trope, being far less than 400 similarly sized gold coins would weigh in real life. You can also deposit gold in various regional banks, who will give you a nondescript "letter of credit" which only weigh 0.25kg. Banks do have an "administrative charge" equal to 1% of the amount you are requesting. It may feel harsh to lose 1000 gold, but it is well worth it to gave a 0.25kg piece of paper worth 100,000 gold (which would weigh 250kg in actual gold).



** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]'', when the shop had been bought out of its money, a nondescript letter of credit was issued. You could never be over-encumbered with too many 0.25 kg pieces of paper placed directly into your inventory by shop-keeps. On the other hand, you could never pick up anything else until you returned under normal inventory weight limits. For your own needs (coins had weight), the banking system allowed you to take out such letters of credit for an administrative charge -- losing 1000 gold may feel harsh, but may well be worth having a piece of paper worth 100000 gold and weighing 0.25 kg rather than the equivalent in actual gold pieces (weighing 250 kg) -- although a few services, such as taverns, only accepted actual coin.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', all ingots of metal weigh the same (1 unit). This includes gold, which would obviously be much denser. And gold coins are not counted towards your weight limit, meaning you can potentially have tens of thousands of coins in your pockets with no effect on your carrying capacity.

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** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]'', when the shop had been bought out of its money, a nondescript letter of credit was issued. You could never be over-encumbered with too many 0.25 kg pieces of paper placed directly into your inventory by shop-keeps. On the other hand, you could never pick up anything else until you returned under normal inventory weight limits. For your own needs (coins had weight), the banking system allowed you to take out such letters of credit for an administrative charge -- losing 1000 gold may feel harsh, but may well be worth having a piece of paper worth 100000 gold and weighing 0.25 kg rather than the equivalent in actual gold pieces (weighing 250 kg) -- although a few services, such as taverns, only accepted actual coin.
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ingots of metal weigh the same (1 unit). This includes gold, which would obviously be much denser. And gold coins are not counted towards your weight limit, meaning you can potentially have tens denser than an iron or steel ingot of thousands of coins in your pockets with no effect on your carrying capacity.the same dimensions.
16th Dec '17 8:56:05 PM Codefreak5
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* ''VideoGame/PayDay2'' averts this when the criminals abscond with their take, as their speed depends on what they're carrying. Carrying a rack of jewelry will barely slow a thief down, but carrying a duffel bag full of money keeps theives from being able to jump or run. Carrying a bag of gold ingots will slow a thief to a crawl.

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* ''VideoGame/PayDay2'' ''VideoGame/PAYDAY2'' averts this when the criminals abscond with their take, as their speed depends on what they're carrying. Carrying a rack of jewelry will barely slow a thief down, but carrying a duffel bag full of money keeps theives thieves from being able to jump or run. Carrying a bag of gold ingots will slow a thief to a crawl.
10th Dec '17 1:51:39 AM Medinoc
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* In ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' Gollum falls into a river of lava and sinks in it as if it's barely thicker than water. It may be molten, but it's still ''rock.'' The director has said that they know that shot is all wrong in terms of science, but decided to just let the RuleOfCool reign. Not to mention that letting the audience see Gollum being incinerated and cooked on top of the lava would probably be too gruesome for the film. RealityIsUnrealistic probably also applies since many viewers probably think [[SoftWater liquid is liquid]].

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* In ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' Gollum falls into a river of lava and sinks in it as if it's barely thicker than water. It may be molten, but it's still ''rock.'' The director has said that they know that shot is all wrong in terms of science, but decided to just let the RuleOfCool reign. Not to mention that letting the audience see Gollum being incinerated and cooked on top of the lava would probably be too gruesome for the film. RealityIsUnrealistic probably also applies since many viewers probably think [[SoftWater [[LavaIsBoilingKoolAid liquid is liquid]].
14th Nov '17 9:42:25 AM REV6Pilot
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** New Vegas also features a partial aversion to this with "Hardcore Mode" - where (among other things) ammo has weight. At first, it doesn't make much of a difference when individual bullets weigh 1/15 to 1/10 of a pound - but when players start acquiring automatic weapons that eat bullets like candy, or come across rocket launchers whose individual rockets weigh two pounds apiece, it really starts to cut down on what you can carry compared to normal mode. (Though even in hardcore, there are many completely weightless items - including gunpowder and shell casings.) This is made more annoying by many junk items used for crafting being exactly 1 pound, an apparent default value, even if it makes no sense. Somehow a scalpel, forceps, and a ''single tin can'' all weigh a whole pound each.

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** New Vegas also features a partial aversion to this [[DownplayedTrope whitewash]] with "Hardcore Mode" - where (among other things) ammo has weight. At first, it doesn't make much of a difference when individual bullets weigh 1/15 to 1/10 of a pound - but when players start acquiring automatic weapons that eat bullets like candy, or come across rocket launchers whose individual rockets weigh two pounds apiece, it really starts to cut down on what you can carry compared to normal mode. (Though even in hardcore, there are many completely weightless items - including gunpowder and shell casings.) This is made more annoying by many junk items used for crafting being exactly 1 pound, an apparent default value, even if it makes no sense. Somehow a scalpel, forceps, and a ''single tin can'' all weigh a whole pound each.
1st Oct '17 7:51:15 PM Glaurung
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* Website/TheFantasyNovelistsExam provides the page quote, pointing out the ubiquity of this trope in fantasy novels inspired by {{Tabletop RPG}}s.
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