History Main / HistoricalVillainDowngrade

10th Feb '16 8:10:52 PM 10-13-2
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* There's an in-universe example in the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' Halloween episode in season 1, arguably a parody of this trope as well. Cartman dresses up in a UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler costume for Halloween, so the principal shows him a classroom video about how Hitler was a bad person. Because it's made for 8-year-old American children, it only says that "Adolf Hitler was a very, very naughty man!" and merely shows him speaking to a bunch of parading soldiers, which Cartman can't understand because of the language barrier. Based on that, the children are supposed to learn AnAesop that dressing up as Hitler to school is not acceptable. Things like the Holocaust and other war crimes couldn't be shown of course, because it's directed towards children. [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Cartman finds Hitler very cool instead, and imagines being in his place]].
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* There's an in-universe example in the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' Halloween episode in season 1, arguably a parody of this trope as well. Cartman dresses up in a UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler costume for Halloween, so the principal shows him a classroom video about how Hitler was a bad person. Because it's made for 8-year-old American children, it only says that "Adolf Hitler was a very, very naughty man!" and merely shows him speaking to a bunch of parading soldiers, which Cartman can't understand because of the language barrier. [[note]] Ironically, a later episode, "The Passion of the Jew", revealed that Cartman ''could'' speak German, but he blatantly mispronounced every word beginning with a ''j''. [[/note]] Based on that, the children are supposed to learn AnAesop that dressing up as Hitler to school is not acceptable. Things like the Holocaust and other war crimes couldn't be shown of course, because it's directed towards children. [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Cartman finds Hitler very cool instead, and imagines being in his place]].
10th Feb '16 8:06:25 PM 10-13-2
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* ''Film/BirdmanOfAlcatraz'' portrayed Robert Franklin Stroud as orders of magnitude gentler than his prison records show.
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* ''Film/BirdmanOfAlcatraz'' portrayed Robert Franklin Stroud as orders of magnitude gentler than his prison records show. Of course, [[RealityIsUnrealistic it would be very hard to buy the idea of a world-renowned bird scholar also being a murderer and child pornographer]], even if you did want to vilify him.
10th Feb '16 8:02:22 PM 10-13-2
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Basically, this trope occurs whenever an historical villain's evil actions are either glossed over or reduced in severity, in order to make them palatable, [[ButNotTooEvil even as a villain]], to mainstream television audiences. Sometimes it's because RealityIsUnrealistic -- there are a few cases of real people displaying such pantomime levels of evil that if you put it in a movie script, the audience would just roll their eyes at your ''obvious'' exaggeration.
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Basically, this trope occurs whenever an historical villain's evil actions are either glossed over or reduced in severity, in order to make them palatable, [[ButNotTooEvil even as a villain]], to mainstream television audiences. Sometimes it's because RealityIsUnrealistic -- there are a few cases of real people displaying such pantomime extreme levels of evil that if you put it in a movie script, the audience would just roll their eyes at your ''obvious'' exaggeration.
22nd Jan '16 6:48:27 PM Katsuhagi
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* ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'''s aunts met UsefulNotes/{{Caligula}} in one episode.
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* ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'''s aunts met UsefulNotes/{{Caligula}} in one episode. While the true extent of the real Caligula's madness is debated it's generally agreed that he was at least rather unstable, but the ''Sabrina'' version appears a bit quirky but harmless.
22nd Jan '16 6:37:04 PM Fireblood
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* The SS camp commander Amon Goeth in ''Film/SchindlersList'' is a prime portrayal of a sadistic monster who loved murdering people during the Holocaust. The real life Goeth was ''even worse'': Spielberg had to tone down the man's senseless cruelty because his crimes were so horrible and numerous (which included a frequently used torture dungeon built under his house, feeding prisoners ''alive'' to his starved dogs, shooting playing children with his sniper rifle, personally killing five hundred people, and more) that [[RealityIsUnrealistic an audience simply wouldn't have believed it on screen]] - some had trouble even grasping that a lunatic such as the one shown in the movie could keep his job, even in the S.S. (In fact, he didn't. He was so bad that [[EvenEvilHasStandards the SS relieved him from duty]] in 1944, accusing him of embezzlement and maltreatment of prisoners. Yes. Imagine what you have to do to get accused of maltreatment of prisoners by the SS.)
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* The SS camp commander Amon Goeth in ''Film/SchindlersList'' is a prime portrayal of a sadistic monster who loved murdering people during the Holocaust. The real life Goeth was ''even worse'': Spielberg had to tone down the man's senseless cruelty because his crimes were so horrible and numerous (which included a frequently used torture dungeon built under his house, feeding prisoners ''alive'' to his starved dogs, shooting playing children with his sniper rifle, personally killing five hundred people, and more) that [[RealityIsUnrealistic an audience simply wouldn't have believed it on screen]] - some had trouble even grasping that a lunatic such as the one shown in the movie could keep his job, even in the S.S. (In (in fact, he didn't. He was so bad that [[EvenEvilHasStandards the SS relieved him from duty]] in 1944, accusing him of embezzlement and maltreatment of prisoners. Yes. Imagine what you have to do to get accused of maltreatment of prisoners by the SS.)SS).
22nd Jan '16 9:13:04 AM LondonKdS
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* The SS camp commander Amon Goeth in ''Film/SchindlersList'' is a prime portrayal of a sadistic monster who loved murdering people during the Holocaust. The real life Goeth was ''even worse'': Spielberg had to tone down the man's senseless cruelty because his crimes were so horrible and numerous (which included a frequently used torture dungeon built under his house, feeding prisoners ''alive'' to his starved dogs, shooting playing children with his sniper rifle, personally killing five hundred people, and more) that [[RealityIsUnrealistic an audience simply wouldn't have believed it on screen]] - some had trouble even grasping that a lunatic such as the one shown in the movie could keep his job, even in the S.S. (In fact, he didn't. He was so bad that [[EvenEvilHasStandards the SS relieved him from duty]] in 1944, accusing him of embezzlement and maltreatment of prisoners. Yes. Imagine what you have to do to get accused of maltreatment of prisoners by the SS.
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* The SS camp commander Amon Goeth in ''Film/SchindlersList'' is a prime portrayal of a sadistic monster who loved murdering people during the Holocaust. The real life Goeth was ''even worse'': Spielberg had to tone down the man's senseless cruelty because his crimes were so horrible and numerous (which included a frequently used torture dungeon built under his house, feeding prisoners ''alive'' to his starved dogs, shooting playing children with his sniper rifle, personally killing five hundred people, and more) that [[RealityIsUnrealistic an audience simply wouldn't have believed it on screen]] - some had trouble even grasping that a lunatic such as the one shown in the movie could keep his job, even in the S.S. (In fact, he didn't. He was so bad that [[EvenEvilHasStandards the SS relieved him from duty]] in 1944, accusing him of embezzlement and maltreatment of prisoners. Yes. Imagine what you have to do to get accused of maltreatment of prisoners by the SS.)
22nd Jan '16 9:12:52 AM LondonKdS
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* The SS camp commander Amon Goeth in ''Film/SchindlersList'' is a prime portrayal of a sadistic monster who loved murdering people during the Holocaust. The real life Goeth was ''even worse'': Spielberg had to tone down the man's senseless cruelty because his crimes were so horrible and numerous (which included a frequently used torture dungeon built under his house, feeding prisoners ''alive'' to his starved dogs, shooting playing children with his sniper rifle, personally killing five hundred people, and more) that [[RealityIsUnrealistic an audience simply wouldn't have believed it on screen]] - some had trouble even grasping that a lunatic such as the one shown in the movie could keep his job, even in the S.S.
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* The SS camp commander Amon Goeth in ''Film/SchindlersList'' is a prime portrayal of a sadistic monster who loved murdering people during the Holocaust. The real life Goeth was ''even worse'': Spielberg had to tone down the man's senseless cruelty because his crimes were so horrible and numerous (which included a frequently used torture dungeon built under his house, feeding prisoners ''alive'' to his starved dogs, shooting playing children with his sniper rifle, personally killing five hundred people, and more) that [[RealityIsUnrealistic an audience simply wouldn't have believed it on screen]] - some had trouble even grasping that a lunatic such as the one shown in the movie could keep his job, even in the S.S. (In fact, he didn't. He was so bad that [[EvenEvilHasStandards the SS relieved him from duty]] in 1944, accusing him of embezzlement and maltreatment of prisoners. Yes. Imagine what you have to do to get accused of maltreatment of prisoners by the SS.
28th Dec '15 7:09:36 PM thatother1dude
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* Two examples from the ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlertSeries'': ** The Soviets after the first game. The first game gives what many accounts would consider an accurate depiction of Stalin's regime, but in the next two games they're just a joke (though this might be partially explained by the fact that between the first two games the USSR was apparently a western puppet regime, which only broke free thanks to [[EvilChancellor Yuri's]] influence). ** A bigger case is the Empire of the Rising Sun in [=RA=] 3, who are clearly modeled after [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan Imperialist Japan]], which in real life was infamous for its war crimes, which include pointless mass murders by the hundreds of thousands, enslavement of tens of thousands of women as sex slaves, and performing medical experiments on prisoners from their colonies that killed thousands of people. Even the whole honor aspect that's presented as a joke in the game was a scary thing in real life; they considered surrender dishonorable and would execute or use enemies who surrendered as slave labor, and fed their civilians propaganda about the Allies that drove them to commit suicide by the tens of thousands when America invaded the Japanese home islands. All of these thing are of course never brought up in the game and the Empire is simply presented as an over-the-top comedic organization, though interestingly it is brought up in an in-progress mod called ''VideoGame/RedAlert3Paradox'' where in the mod's version of [=RA=] 3 events, the Empire butchered a major Soviet city.
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* Two examples from the ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlertSeries'': ** The Soviets after the first game. The first game gives what many accounts would consider an accurate depiction of Stalin's regime, but in the next two games they're just a joke (though this joke. This might be partially explained by the fact that between the first two games the USSR was apparently a western puppet regime, which only broke free thanks to [[EvilChancellor Yuri's]] influence). influence. ** A bigger case is the The Empire of the Rising Sun in [=RA=] 3, who are clearly modeled after [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan Imperialist Japan]], which in real life was infamous for its war crimes, which include pointless mass murders by the hundreds of thousands, enslavement of tens of thousands of women as sex slaves, and performing medical experiments on prisoners from their colonies that killed thousands of people. Even the whole honor aspect that's presented as a joke in the game was a scary thing in real life; life: they considered surrender dishonorable and would execute or use enemies who surrendered or use them as slave labor, and fed their civilians propaganda about the Allies that drove them to commit suicide by the tens of thousands when America invaded the Japanese home islands. All of these thing are of course never brought up in the game and the Empire is simply presented as an over-the-top comedic organization, though interestingly it is brought up in an in-progress mod called ''VideoGame/RedAlert3Paradox'' where in the mod's version of [=RA=] 3 events, the Empire butchered a major Soviet city.
28th Dec '15 6:12:03 PM thatother1dude
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Examples are not general and this is not about general historical revision, rather specifically in fiction.
* There's an in-universe example in the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' Halloween episode in season 1, arguably a parody of this trope as well. Cartman dresses up in a UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler costume for Halloween, so the principal shows him a classroom video about how Hitler was a bad person. Because it's made for 8-year-old American children, it only says that "Adolf Hitler was a very, very naughty man!" and merely shows him speaking to a bunch of parading soldiers, which Cartman can't understand because of the language barrier. Based on that, the children are supposed to learn AnAesop that dressing up as Hitler to school is not acceptable. Things like the Holocaust and other war crimes couldn't be shown of course, because it's directed towards children. [[MisaimedFandom Cartman finds Hitler very cool instead, and imagines being in his place]].
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* There's an in-universe example in the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' Halloween episode in season 1, arguably a parody of this trope as well. Cartman dresses up in a UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler costume for Halloween, so the principal shows him a classroom video about how Hitler was a bad person. Because it's made for 8-year-old American children, it only says that "Adolf Hitler was a very, very naughty man!" and merely shows him speaking to a bunch of parading soldiers, which Cartman can't understand because of the language barrier. Based on that, the children are supposed to learn AnAesop that dressing up as Hitler to school is not acceptable. Things like the Holocaust and other war crimes couldn't be shown of course, because it's directed towards children. [[MisaimedFandom [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Cartman finds Hitler very cool instead, and imagines being in his place]].
28th Dec '15 6:11:42 PM thatother1dude
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Examples are not general and this is not about general historical revision, rather specifically in fiction.
[[folder:Other]] * Pretty much any depiction of UsefulNotes/NorthKorea will tone their atrocities down significantly. * Any depiction of UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan will be toned down from their real life versions, especially if Japanese media made it. Despite being one of the most horrifying civilizations ever, with brutality that matched the Mongol hordes, they tend to seldom be depicted accurately. Sometimes they are even depicted ''sympathetically'' - "forced" into a war they didn't want by the hypocritical West against an overwhelming foe as they honorably lay down their lives in defense of their island. As for any purported atrocities, they either didn't happen, are exaggerated, their victims deserved it, or the other side was just as bad. Most filmmakers instead choose to focus on the crimes of the Nazis, most likely because the Japanese public is still uncomfortable about acknowledging the actions of the Empire, unlike the Germans. As the historian Stephen Ambrose put it: "The Japanese presentation of World War II to its children runs something like this: 'One day, for no reason we ever understood, the Americans started dropping atomic bombs on us'". ** Likewise when it comes to a U.S. history classroom discussing U.S. war crimes of WW2. They just don't speak of the ones the U.S. Army committed during the occupation of Japan. Some events included the raiding of a civilian hospital to rape women during which several newborns were killed when soldiers ripped them from the arms of their mothers and threw them to floor, and the U.S "patrols" grabbing young girls off the street to rape them. These incidents led to women being escorted everywhere and the Yakuza gaining respect for providing such a service. For more see the other wiki which can list several books for additional reading.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes#World_War_II]] Rapes of local Japanese and Okinawan women by U.S. soldiers also occurred under the subsequent occupation, which went completely unpunished (Allied soldiers of other nations such as Australia were also perpetrators).[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Japan]] * Various historical dictators will have their atrocities glazed over by the modern apologists, for political reasons. * [[http://www.canadianlegends.ca/Products.asp This]] action figure of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Macdonald Sir John A. Macdonald]] comes with a brief biography (obviously written for children) in which it is stated that he and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Riel Louis Riel]] "[[{{Understatement}} did not get along very well.]]" The fact of the matter is that Macdonald and Riel fought two wars against each other, at the conclusion of which Riel was executed. * In media based on the New Testament of Literature/TheBible, Pontius Pilate is often portrayed as reluctant to sentence Jesus to execution. This is unlikely given that Pilate was recalled to Rome because the ''[[TheEmpire Romans]]'' though he was too brutal. ** Well, there are very, very, ''very'' few sources pertaining to Pilate; perhaps the only two sources apart from the Gospels that deal with him at all are the Jewish scholars Philo and Josephus- the latter, in particular, not known as the most reliable source. Both men portray him as a man who was insensitive to the Jews and who went out of his way to deliberately annoy them (which inspired minor rebellions; the brutality thing concerns how they say he put those rebellions down)- it's possible he did indeed want to let Jesus go, perhaps partly or even only because he wanted to annoy the Jews! * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_rais Gilles de Rais]] was one of UsefulNotes/JoanOfArc's companions, an [[RatedMForManly all-around man's man]], and a successful soldier. That's the ThemeParkVersion, anyway-the fact that he was also a serial rapist and killer of ''children'' tends not to be mentioned in kid's history books. [[DarkerAndEdgier For older readers, however...]] ** Gilles, while being one of the inspirations for Literature/{{Bluebeard}} (who's himself definitely not on the level of his historical counterpart), is a somewhat contentious case for modern scholars; a non-negligible number theorize (with pretty good though not definitive evidence to back it up) that his crimes, trial, and condemnation were a politically-minded frame-up (as a Breton nobleman loyal to France at that time was pretty much guaranteed to have lots of nearby enemies, especially one famed for being a companion to UsefulNotes/JoanOfArc). TheOtherWiki [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais#Question_of_guilt elaborates a bit on the topic.]] ** Averted in ''LightNovel/FateZero'', which plays out this aspect of him for all its worth. * The history books often leave out the African Slaver-Kingdoms, who were among the most heavily-armed (with muskets and cannon, no less) people in the world and rolling in cash. They made their money from, you guessed it, sending troops out on raiding expeditions to round up whole villages and tribes and sell them to the Arabs and Europeans. Their existence is the reason why European slave-traders brought so many old(-ish) people and children to the new world - the Slaver-Kingdoms dictated the terms of trade, and the Europeans had to accept what they were given. ** Likewise, the Arab slave trade is rarely brought up, even while it started centuries earlier and ended decades later than the European slave trade. Functionally there was little difference between Mesopotamian and American plantations either in the structure of said plantations or the mortality-rates (i.e. low enough that natural population increase was possible, something unimaginable in the disease-ridden tropics of the Caribbean), save the raw numbers (i.e. fewer East African/Arabic slaves). Additionally, due to its greater length, the Arab slave trade actually racked up more victims than the Europeans. * The Creator/MarquisDeSade's writings are well known of course, but most people do not realize that he appears to have acted on the same impulses his characters expressed. He was imprisoned repeatedly for sexually harassing and raping prostitutes and servants, as well as kidnapping, drugging and holding people prisoner as sex slaves (with the help of his wife and another servant), only getting off lightly because he was a nobleman (that is, he was locked up in the Bastille and elsewhere, but was treated relatively well-also, while in the Bastille, he incited a riot by falsely shouting to an angry mob that the guards were murdering the prisoners). He eventually falsely pled insanity which got him sent to Charneton Asylum, where-despite what movies like ''{{Quills}}'' portray-he was given special treatment, was in a prolonged sexual relationship with an underage girl (whom, in his paranoia, he accused of being a spy for the government), and was hated by the other inmates for various reasons (such as having them cast as extras-against their will-in plays he was allowed to preform, the lead roles played by professional actors). Despite his notoriety, these crimes are rarely mentioned when his name comes up, and many people think of him as a great liberal inspiration. [[/folder]]
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[[folder:Other]] * Pretty much any depiction of UsefulNotes/NorthKorea will tone their atrocities down significantly. * Any depiction of UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan will be toned down from their real life versions, especially if Japanese media made it. Despite being one of the most horrifying civilizations ever, with brutality that matched the Mongol hordes, they tend to seldom be depicted accurately. Sometimes they are even depicted ''sympathetically'' - "forced" into a war they didn't want by the hypocritical West against an overwhelming foe as they honorably lay down their lives in defense of their island. As for any purported atrocities, they either didn't happen, are exaggerated, their victims deserved it, or the other side was just as bad. Most filmmakers instead choose to focus on the crimes of the Nazis, most likely because the Japanese public is still uncomfortable about acknowledging the actions of the Empire, unlike the Germans. As the historian Stephen Ambrose put it: "The Japanese presentation of World War II to its children runs something like this: 'One day, for no reason we ever understood, the Americans started dropping atomic bombs on us'". ** Likewise when it comes to a U.S. history classroom discussing U.S. war crimes of WW2. They just don't speak of the ones the U.S. Army committed during the occupation of Japan. Some events included the raiding of a civilian hospital to rape women during which several newborns were killed when soldiers ripped them from the arms of their mothers and threw them to floor, and the U.S "patrols" grabbing young girls off the street to rape them. These incidents led to women being escorted everywhere and the Yakuza gaining respect for providing such a service. For more see the other wiki which can list several books for additional reading.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes#World_War_II]] Rapes of local Japanese and Okinawan women by U.S. soldiers also occurred under the subsequent occupation, which went completely unpunished (Allied soldiers of other nations such as Australia were also perpetrators).[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Japan]] * Various historical dictators will have their atrocities glazed over by the modern apologists, for political reasons. * [[http://www.canadianlegends.ca/Products.asp This]] action figure of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Macdonald Sir John A. Macdonald]] comes with a brief biography (obviously written for children) in which it is stated that he and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Riel Louis Riel]] "[[{{Understatement}} did not get along very well.]]" The fact of the matter is that Macdonald and Riel fought two wars against each other, at the conclusion of which Riel was executed. * In media based on the New Testament of Literature/TheBible, Pontius Pilate is often portrayed as reluctant to sentence Jesus to execution. This is unlikely given that Pilate was recalled to Rome because the ''[[TheEmpire Romans]]'' though he was too brutal. ** Well, there are very, very, ''very'' few sources pertaining to Pilate; perhaps the only two sources apart from the Gospels that deal with him at all are the Jewish scholars Philo and Josephus- the latter, in particular, not known as the most reliable source. Both men portray him as a man who was insensitive to the Jews and who went out of his way to deliberately annoy them (which inspired minor rebellions; the brutality thing concerns how they say he put those rebellions down)- it's possible he did indeed want to let Jesus go, perhaps partly or even only because he wanted to annoy the Jews! * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_rais Gilles de Rais]] was one of UsefulNotes/JoanOfArc's companions, an [[RatedMForManly all-around man's man]], and a successful soldier. That's the ThemeParkVersion, anyway-the fact that he was also a serial rapist and killer of ''children'' tends not to be mentioned in kid's history books. [[DarkerAndEdgier For older readers, however...]] ** Gilles, while being one of the inspirations for Literature/{{Bluebeard}} (who's himself definitely not on the level of his historical counterpart), is a somewhat contentious case for modern scholars; a non-negligible number theorize (with pretty good though not definitive evidence to back it up) that his crimes, trial, and condemnation were a politically-minded frame-up (as a Breton nobleman loyal to France at that time was pretty much guaranteed to have lots of nearby enemies, especially one famed for being a companion to UsefulNotes/JoanOfArc). TheOtherWiki [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais#Question_of_guilt elaborates a bit on the topic.]] ** Averted in ''LightNovel/FateZero'', which plays out this aspect of him for all its worth. * The history books often leave out the African Slaver-Kingdoms, who were among the most heavily-armed (with muskets and cannon, no less) people in the world and rolling in cash. They made their money from, you guessed it, sending troops out on raiding expeditions to round up whole villages and tribes and sell them to the Arabs and Europeans. Their existence is the reason why European slave-traders brought so many old(-ish) people and children to the new world - the Slaver-Kingdoms dictated the terms of trade, and the Europeans had to accept what they were given. ** Likewise, the Arab slave trade is rarely brought up, even while it started centuries earlier and ended decades later than the European slave trade. Functionally there was little difference between Mesopotamian and American plantations either in the structure of said plantations or the mortality-rates (i.e. low enough that natural population increase was possible, something unimaginable in the disease-ridden tropics of the Caribbean), save the raw numbers (i.e. fewer East African/Arabic slaves). Additionally, due to its greater length, the Arab slave trade actually racked up more victims than the Europeans. * The Creator/MarquisDeSade's writings are well known of course, but most people do not realize that he appears to have acted on the same impulses his characters expressed. He was imprisoned repeatedly for sexually harassing and raping prostitutes and servants, as well as kidnapping, drugging and holding people prisoner as sex slaves (with the help of his wife and another servant), only getting off lightly because he was a nobleman (that is, he was locked up in the Bastille and elsewhere, but was treated relatively well-also, while in the Bastille, he incited a riot by falsely shouting to an angry mob that the guards were murdering the prisoners). He eventually falsely pled insanity which got him sent to Charneton Asylum, where-despite what movies like ''{{Quills}}'' portray-he was given special treatment, was in a prolonged sexual relationship with an underage girl (whom, in his paranoia, he accused of being a spy for the government), and was hated by the other inmates for various reasons (such as having them cast as extras-against their will-in plays he was allowed to preform, the lead roles played by professional actors). Despite his notoriety, these crimes are rarely mentioned when his name comes up, and many people think of him as a great liberal inspiration. [[/folder]]
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