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27th Aug '16 7:39:41 AM valar55
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There's no WhatTheHellHero this time for the unfortunate bungler. Usually after a colossal screw up or a moment of incredible selfishness, the hero has completely alienated the rest of the team and they're leaving with disgust, if not actually out for their former leaders blood. If lucky they will merely be forcibly demoting the former leader. This rarely leads to a dead hero, but it often leads to the hero being on his own for a while while he gets his act together.

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There's no WhatTheHellHero this time for the unfortunate bungler. Usually after a colossal screw up or a moment of incredible selfishness, the hero has completely alienated the rest of the team and they're leaving with disgust, if not actually out for their former leaders leader's blood. If lucky they will merely be forcibly demoting the former leader. This rarely leads to a dead hero, but it often leads to the hero being on his own for a while while he gets his act together.
10th Jul '16 10:39:42 AM nombretomado
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* This is a classic BioWare trope in general. Piss off your team enough in ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' and they leave. Pick the Dark Side endings in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' or ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' and you'll have to slaughter ''most'' of your crew when they invoke this.

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* This is a classic BioWare Creator/BioWare trope in general. Piss off your team enough in ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' and they leave. Pick the Dark Side endings in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' or ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' and you'll have to slaughter ''most'' of your crew when they invoke this.
14th Dec '15 1:32:14 PM FF32
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* Sometimes ([[AuthorOnBoard oftentimes]], if you're cynical), it turns out that it was the ''TrueCompanions'' who are in the wrong, not TheHero. The author actually does want you to stay on the hero's side and complaints from the rest of the team are painted as bad cases of PoorCommunicationKills, HonorBeforeReason, or even TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong. If this is the case TheHero will usually bring the rest of the team around after getting a chance to explain himself.

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* Sometimes ([[AuthorOnBoard ([[WriterOnBoard oftentimes]], if you're cynical), it turns out that it was the ''TrueCompanions'' who are in the wrong, not TheHero. The author actually does want you to stay on the hero's side and complaints from the rest of the team are painted as bad cases of PoorCommunicationKills, HonorBeforeReason, or even TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong. If this is the case TheHero will usually bring the rest of the team around after getting a chance to explain himself.
8th Aug '15 12:32:00 AM JoeMerl
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* In WesternAnimation/SouthPark, Cartman forms the "Coon & Friends" supergroup for his "superhero" alter-ego The Coon, along with the rest of the group coming up with their own more or less imaginative superhero personas. [[JerkAss Cartman's]] usual behavior persuing a superhero that won't join his group and trying to blackmail him into joining eventually makes the rest of the group kick him out. Although, they still keep the group name because "it pisses him off so much" and continue meeting in his mom's basement. In retaliation, Cartman ends up joining with ''Cthulhu'' himself in his selfish quest at vengeance, murdering thousands in the process, all while continuing to portray himself as the hero in the ArtShift comic book narrations.

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* In WesternAnimation/SouthPark, Cartman forms PlayedForLaughs on ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'': the kids all make up [[SuperheroEpisode superhero personae]] and form a group called "Coon and Friends," after [[TokenEvilTeammate Cartman]]'s character, the Coon. However, Cartman's unheroic and generally {{Jerkass}} behavior leads to them kicking him out and getting him grounded. To add insult to injury, his mom lets them keep using his basement as a headquarters, and they keep the "Coon & and Friends" supergroup for his "superhero" alter-ego The Coon, along with the rest of the group coming up with their own more or less imaginative superhero personas. [[JerkAss Cartman's]] usual behavior persuing a superhero that won't join his group and trying to blackmail him into joining eventually makes the rest of the group kick him out. Although, they still keep the group name just because "it "[[ForTheLulz it pisses him off so much" and continue meeting in his mom's basement. In retaliation, beyond belief]]." Unfortunately, Cartman ends [[OhCrap teams up joining with ''Cthulhu'' himself in his selfish quest at vengeance, murdering thousands in Cthulu]] (ItMakesSenseInContext) and becomes the process, BigBad of the arc, killing thousands, all while continuing to portray himself as [[SelfServingMemory insisting that the hero in the ArtShift comic book narrations.
others turned evil]].
17th Jun '15 5:32:15 PM amitakartok
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* ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore For Answer'' has the final mission in two of the story routes. After the protagonist murders a hundred million civilians and sets in motion the death of several hundred million (possibly over a billion) more, he gets sent on a suspiciously vague mission... which turns out to be a trap orchestrated by his MissionControl, siccing on him four {{Ace Pilot}}s he worked with during previous missions. What's more, she actually joins in as fifth on Hard difficulty!
-->"Please accept my apologies. That briefing you saw was manufactured. [[PrepareToDie This is the end of the road for you.]] [[WhatTheHellHero I think you understand why.]]"
3rd Jun '15 4:53:19 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' has ''three'' possible occurances of this, two of which happen at the same point. These occur if you choose to [[spoiler: defile the [[MacGuffin Urn of Sacred Ashes]] so the crazy man lets you into his [[{{cult}} super special club]]. If you have Leliana and/or Wynne with you at the time, they will openly attack you.]] The third happens if you haven't gotten [[{{stoic}} Sten's]] approval high enough and you get far enough into the story. At that point [[spoiler: he will question your leadership and if you can't persuade him, he will also attack you.]] Although that is somewhat less of an example than the first.
* This is a classic BioWare trope in general. Piss off your team enough in ''BaldursGate'' and they leave. Pick the Dark Side endings in ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' or ''JadeEmpire'' and you'll have to slaughter ''most'' of your crew when they invoke this.

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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' has ''three'' possible occurances occurrences of this, two of which happen at the same point. These occur if you choose to [[spoiler: defile the [[MacGuffin Urn of Sacred Ashes]] so the crazy man lets you into his [[{{cult}} super special club]]. If you have Leliana and/or Wynne with you at the time, they will openly attack you.]] The third happens if you haven't gotten [[{{stoic}} Sten's]] approval high enough and you get far enough into the story. At that point [[spoiler: he will question your leadership and if you can't persuade him, he will also attack you.]] Although that is somewhat less of an example than the first.
* This is a classic BioWare trope in general. Piss off your team enough in ''BaldursGate'' ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' and they leave. Pick the Dark Side endings in ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' or ''JadeEmpire'' ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' and you'll have to slaughter ''most'' of your crew when they invoke this.
19th Apr '15 1:06:02 PM Chabal2
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* ''VideoGame/OregonTrail'' allows you to start as a greenhorn or the leader of a wagon caravan, too badly and you get demoted to greenhorn.
22nd Dec '14 11:25:17 AM nombretomado
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* For Marvel comics this isn't so much a Trope as it is Status Quo. Especially during the Silver Age, it was nearly ''de rigueur'' for any randomly chosen pair of characters to not like each other even if they were both "good guys", and if they were in fact on the same ''team'', it just gave them more opportunities to get on each others' nerves. Probably the single most stable team was the FantasticFour, all of whom had strong ties to leader Reed Richards: Ben Grimm was his best friend, Sue Storm Richards was his girlfriend and later wife, and Johnny Storm was her brother. Even they occasionally had spats (Johnny, the team hothead both literally and figuratively, was nearly always involved).

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* For Marvel comics this isn't so much a Trope as it is Status Quo. Especially during the Silver Age, it was nearly ''de rigueur'' for any randomly chosen pair of characters to not like each other even if they were both "good guys", and if they were in fact on the same ''team'', it just gave them more opportunities to get on each others' nerves. Probably the single most stable team was the FantasticFour, ComicBook/FantasticFour, all of whom had strong ties to leader Reed Richards: Ben Grimm was his best friend, Sue Storm Richards was his girlfriend and later wife, and Johnny Storm was her brother. Even they occasionally had spats (Johnny, the team hothead both literally and figuratively, was nearly always involved).
12th Sep '14 11:31:17 AM Ptorquemada
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* For Marvel comics this isn't so much a Trope as it is Status Quo. Especially during the Silver Age, it was nearly ''de rigueur'' for any randomly chosen pair of characters to not like each other even if they were both "good guys", and if they were in fact on the same ''team'', it just gave them more opportunities to get on each others' nerves. Probably the single most stable team was the FantasticFour, all of whom had strong ties to leader Reed Richards: Ben Grimm was his best friend, Sue Storm Richards was his girlfriend and later wife, and Johnny Storm was her brother. Even they occasionally had spats (Johnny, the team hothead both literally and figuratively, was nearly always involved).
17th Apr '14 12:15:32 AM sgamer82
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* For OgreBattle64 [[spoiler: This is a possible ending if your chaos frame is too low. The members of the resistance rant about how the PlayerCharacter captured the cities instead of liberating them. Making it a case of BecameTheirOwnAntithesis and not listening to the people. There is also the practical reason that if the man who pretty much won the whole war for them comes back he might be made king instead.]]

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* For OgreBattle64 [[spoiler: This ''Videogame/OgreBattle64'' this is a possible ending if your chaos frame is too low. The [[spoiler:The members of the resistance rant about how the PlayerCharacter captured the cities instead of liberating them. Making it a case of BecameTheirOwnAntithesis and not listening to the people. There is also the practical reason that if the man who pretty much won the whole war for them comes back he might be made king instead.]]
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