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27th Oct '17 2:47:59 PM Godzillawolf
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* In ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'', [[BadFuture Dark World Applejack]] becomes this following her redemption from being one of Discord's brainwashed CoDragons. She admits she wasn't a religious pony before, but now she has a very good reason to seek it out: her family is waiting there for her, something she now decidedly knows [[ItMakesSenseInContext after meeting and having a conversation with Heaven]] and Apple Bloom's soul.

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* In ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'', [[BadFuture Dark World Applejack]] becomes this following her redemption from being one of Discord's brainwashed CoDragons. She admits she wasn't a religious pony before, but now she has a very good reason to seek it out: her family is waiting there for her, something she now decidedly knows [[ItMakesSenseInContext after meeting and having a conversation with Heaven]] with]] [[{{Heaven}} Elysium]] and Apple Bloom's soul.
27th Oct '17 2:46:30 PM Godzillawolf
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* In ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'', [[BadFuture Dark World Applejack]] becomes this following her redemption from being one of Discord's brainwashed CoDragons. She admits she wasn't a religious pony before, but now she has a very good reason to seek it out: her family is waiting there for her, something she now decidedly knows [[ItMakesSenseInContext after meeting and having a conversation with Heaven]] and Apple Bloom's soul.

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18th Sep '17 9:57:12 PM Fireblood
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** In the early days of Christianity, there was a sect that would threaten passersby with murder... unless said passersby would kill them. The idea was that Heaven is the only place worth being, but suicide's a sin.
** The Greek Orthodox saint [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetrius_the_Neomartyr Demetrius the Neomartyr]] was definitely one of these. Once a Christian barber living in Tripoli (the Greek city, not the Libyan capital) in the times of the Ottoman Empire, he converted to Islam for some time but then repented, fell into deep depression and decided that he could only atone via martyrdom. The abbot of a monastery he was living in tried to dissuade him, but to no avail; from then on Demetrius did all he could to pretty much shout at the Muslim Ottoman locals "I'm a Christian! I apostacized from Islam! Execute me already, please!" A Turkish friend he had in the local police even tried to falsify his confession to a Tripoli judge, only for Demetrius to realize it and insist that he wanted to die and go to Heaven; he finally got his wish and was [[OffwithHisHead beheaded]].

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** In the early days of Christianity, there was a sect that would threaten passersby with murder... unless said passersby would kill them. The idea was that Heaven is the only place worth being, but suicide's a sin.
sin (they didn't think murder threats were though, [[FridgeLogic apparently]]).
** The Greek Orthodox saint [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetrius_the_Neomartyr Demetrius the Neomartyr]] was definitely one of these. Once a Christian barber living in Tripoli (the Greek city, not the Libyan capital) in the times of the Ottoman Empire, he converted to Islam for some time but then repented, fell into deep depression and decided that he could only atone via martyrdom. The abbot of a monastery he was living in tried to dissuade him, but to no avail; from then on Demetrius did all he could to pretty much shout at the Muslim Ottoman locals "I'm a Christian! I apostacized apostatized from Islam! Execute me already, please!" A Turkish friend he had in the local police even tried to falsify his confession to a Tripoli judge, only for Demetrius to realize it and insist that he wanted to die and go to Heaven; he finally got his wish and was [[OffwithHisHead beheaded]].
19th Aug '17 10:51:55 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** The Greek Orthodox saint [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetrius_the_Neomartyr Demetrius the Neomartyr]] was definitely one of these. Once a Christian barber living in Tripoli (the Greek city, not the Libyan capital) in the times of the Ottoman Empire, he converted to Islam for some time but then repented, fell into deep depression and decided that he could only atone via martyrdom. The abbot of a monastery he was living in tried to dissuade him, but to no avail; from then on Demetrius did all he could to pretty much shout at the Muslim Ottoman locals "I'm a Christian! I apostacized from Islam! Execute me already, please!" A Turkish friend he had in the local police even tried to falsify his confession to a Tripoli judge, only for Demetrius to realize it and insist that he wanted to die and go to Heaven; he finally got his wish and was [[OffwithHisHead beheaded]].
25th Jun '17 8:01:35 PM Fireblood
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* This is the reason of why Stan from ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' ruins the life of his atheist best friend (thinking that if his life becomes miserable enough he will turn to Christianity); they had a lot in common and Stan though that him being an atheist would prevent him to go to heaven, so they wouldn't be able to [[HoYay spend eternity together]].

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* This is the reason of why Stan from ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' ruins the life of his atheist best friend (thinking that if his life becomes miserable enough he will turn to Christianity); they had a lot in common and Stan though thought that him being an atheist would prevent him to go going to heaven, so they wouldn't be able to [[HoYay spend eternity together]].



* Pretty much all Christians and Muslims want themselves and everyone else to go to heaven. This is quite unproblematic if you believe that only heaven is an actual place while hell is the absence of God, and if you believe that God will let all decent people into heaven whether they are Christian/Muslim or not. It become more problematic if you believe for example that only Christians go to heaven while everyone else will suffer forever in hell. Then of course you think that people ought to know what's at stake and make an informed decision about their eternal destiny, then of course you don't "hide your light under a bushel". Instead you want to make sure that everyone change their beliefs and way of life so that they will think, feel, believe and act in the same ways as you do, so they can go to heaven with you instead of suffering forever for not being like you. Of course, it's best to figure out how to evangelize without offending and alienating half the people you interact with. Though realistically, you can't avoid offending ''everybody'' except by keeping your mouth shut... which is like having the cure to cancer and not telling people about it because some people won't believe you.

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* Pretty much all Christians and Muslims want themselves and everyone else to go to heaven. This is quite unproblematic if you believe that only heaven is an actual place while hell is the absence of God, and if you believe that God will let all decent people into heaven whether they are Christian/Muslim or not. It become becomes more problematic if you believe for example that only Christians go to heaven while everyone else will suffer forever in hell. Then of course you think that people ought to know what's at stake and make an informed decision about their eternal destiny, then of course you don't "hide your light under a bushel". Instead you want to make sure that everyone change their beliefs and way of life so that they will think, feel, believe and act in the same ways as you do, so they can go to heaven with you instead of suffering forever for not being like you. Of course, it's best to figure out how to evangelize without offending and alienating half the people you interact with. Though realistically, you can't avoid offending ''everybody'' except by keeping your mouth shut... which is like having the cure to cancer and not telling people about it because some people won't believe you.



** Averted in many forms of Buddhism: They believe that heaven and hell exist, but are dead ends. Going to Heaven is nice, but will use up your good karma and eventually you will reincarnate anyway. Only Nirvana gives lasting salvation.

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** Averted in many forms of Buddhism: They they believe that heaven and hell exist, but are dead ends. Going to Heaven is nice, but will use up your good karma and eventually you will reincarnate anyway. Only Nirvana gives lasting salvation.
24th Jun '17 12:29:10 AM LinTaylor
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* Late in ''Series/KamenRiderKiva'', Rook (TheBrute of the Fangire's rulers) abruptly decides that he wants to go to Heaven and starts doing good deeds. Despite how it may sound, this isn't portrayed as an attempted HeelFaceTurn but simply another of the "games" Rook devises to stave off boredom. Either way the heroes are far from receptive to this attitude, since Rook has committed genocide of several races.
14th Feb '17 3:45:41 PM NoxSky12599
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' episode "Jack and the Lava Monster", the titular monster is actually a viking warrior who was cursed by Aku and sealed inside a mountain, denying him death in battle and entry into Valhalla with the rest of his people. He goads Jack into fighting him so he can finally be defeated honorably and pass on.
14th Feb '17 2:55:14 PM intastiel
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* In the ''Literature/GentlemanBastard'' series, the Jeremite Redeemers are a group of religious fanatics who act as "living sacrifices", fighting to the death against anyone who threatens them. Any Redeemer who falls in battle is considered fast-tracked to the gods' side.

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* In the ''Literature/GentlemanBastard'' series, the Jeremite Redeemers are a group of religious fanatics who act as "living sacrifices", fighting to the death against anyone who threatens them. Any Redeemer who falls in battle is considered fast-tracked to the gods' side.side; consequently, they don't receive any DueToTheDead, since praying on their behalf would be superfluous.
4th Feb '17 2:00:53 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* In ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', most good people simply seek [[strike:Jesus]] Aslan, and in book 7, they get to heaven as a side effect of that. In the third book, ''Literature/TheVoyageOfTheDawnTreader'', however, Reepicheep is actively seeking out what turns out to be this afterlife. It's ambiguous as to whether he knows or not that the thing he's seeking is actually heaven.

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* In ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', most good people simply seek [[strike:Jesus]] Aslan, and in book 7, they get to heaven as a side effect of that. In the third book, ''Literature/TheVoyageOfTheDawnTreader'', however, Reepicheep is actively seeking out what turns out to be this afterlife. It's ambiguous as to whether he knows or not that the thing he's seeking is actually heaven. And regarding ''Literature/TheLastBattle'', Creator/CSLewis stated that [[spoiler:Susan]] would probably seek out heaven on her own after her family died and went there.
10th Jan '17 5:17:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* In {{Clawfinger}}'s "Final Stand", the singer firmly believes in an unspecified religion and dreams of dying a noble death so he'll get to Paradise quickly. See [[Quotes/HeavenSeeker the quotes page]].

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* In {{Clawfinger}}'s Music/{{Clawfinger}}'s "Final Stand", the singer firmly believes in an unspecified religion and dreams of dying a noble death so he'll get to Paradise quickly. See [[Quotes/HeavenSeeker the quotes page]].
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