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3rd Apr '16 10:26:05 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* ''[[VideoGame/MegaManX Mega Man Maverick Hunter X]]'' features this as the FinalBoss battle if you play as Vile. Beat X and Zero, and the following cutscene shows them seriously damaged. Then they pull themselves together, stomp you with ''one shot'', and leave you to die. Great reward.
** When you play as X, the intro-stage battle with Vile has been [[VideogameRemake changed]] from a HopelessBossFight to one of these. You have to do a certain amount of damage, but then Vile will simply waste you; Zero's entrance then proceeds on schedule.
** In ''X5'', no matter how badly the player wastes Zero (as X) or X (as Zero), Zero's Sōgenmu or X's Soul Body attack from the previous game will be pulled out of nowhere to turn the fight into a draw.

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* ''[[VideoGame/MegaManX Mega Man Maverick Hunter X]]'' ''VideoGame/MegaManMaverickHunterX'' features this as the FinalBoss battle if you play as Vile. Beat X and Zero, and the following cutscene shows them seriously damaged. Then they pull themselves together, stomp you with ''one shot'', and leave you to die. Great reward.
** When you play as X, the intro-stage battle with Vile has been [[VideogameRemake [[VideoGameRemake changed]] from a HopelessBossFight to one of these. You have to do a certain amount of damage, but then Vile will simply waste you; Zero's entrance then proceeds on schedule.
** In ''X5'', ''VideoGame/MegaManX5'', no matter how badly the player wastes Zero (as X) or X (as Zero), Zero's Sōgenmu or X's Soul Body attack from the previous game will be pulled out of nowhere to turn the fight into a draw.
27th Mar '16 7:20:10 PM JLCarter
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*** This happens a lot in Legacy of Goku II. During Vegeta's fight against Imperfect Cell, you fight him until his health runs low, and then it'll go to the cut scene of him absorbing 18 and becoming Perfect and defeating Vegeta in a few hits. During Goku's fight against Cell, you get his health low and then Goku surrenders.
*** This is at least partially because the game is based on Dragon Ball Z, and the developers apparently wanted to keep the game's plot as similar as they could to the plot of the part of the show they were adapting given the limits of the Game Boy Advance.
21st Mar '16 5:43:59 AM Hanz
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* ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsInTheSky The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky]] loves'' this trope, particularly the variant where after you beat the bosses, they insult you and force you into letting them do what they want anyway. [[spoiler:The black soldiers]] in FC, [[spoiler:the Jaegers (actually Kurt and his gang in disguise)]] in SC...

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* ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsInTheSky The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky]] ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsInTheSky loves'' this trope, particularly the variant where after you beat the bosses, they insult you and force you into letting them do what they want anyway. [[spoiler:The black soldiers]] in FC, [[spoiler:the Jaegers (actually Kurt and his gang in disguise)]] in SC...SC...
* In ''Videogame/{{LISA}}: The Painful RPG'', Buzzo is typically meant to be a HopelessBossFight who will quickly destroy Brad and his party if he's challenged. If you actually do defeat him, he'll somehow end the world right then and there, causing a NonStandardGameOver.
1st Mar '16 5:49:11 PM Cameony
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* The penultimate battle against Bowletta in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'': If you lose, it's game over. What happens if you win? A timed bob-omb appears near the brothers and explodes, killing them instantly. Then Bowletta sucks them both up, lunging the brothers with only 1 HP each into the final battle with [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind the spirit of Cackletta inside of him/her]].

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* The penultimate battle against Bowletta in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'': If you lose, it's game over. What happens if you win? A timed bob-omb appears near the brothers and explodes, killing them instantly. Then Bowletta sucks them both up, lunging the brothers with only 1 HP each into the final battle with [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind the spirit of Cackletta inside of him/her]].him]].
1st Mar '16 5:44:37 PM Cameony
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** There was a GameBoy DragonBall game in wich you (as Goku) has a bosse fight against Tao Paï paï in the forest. He's a difficult boss, but nothing that a skilled player can't handle without too much trouble. Lose and the story continue. Get his life bar to zero, and Goku doesn't move anymore, you can't control him and the boss (who isn't K.O) will hit you until your life bar gets to zero.

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** There was a GameBoy DragonBall game in wich which you (as Goku) has have a bosse boss fight against Tao Paï paï in the forest. He's a difficult boss, but nothing that a skilled player can't handle without too much trouble. Lose and the story continue. Get continues. Take his life bar to zero, and Goku doesn't move anymore, you can't control him freezes and the boss (who isn't K.O) beaten for some reason) will hit you until your life bar gets to zero.you die.
15th Jan '16 10:36:08 PM Kuruni
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** In the Rise of A Ninja and The Broken Bond games the player is also forced to follow the storyline of the anime regardless of their actual performance in the game which leads to losses you can't avoid. It can be annoying to get trash-talked by your opponent in an animated cutscene after stomping them into the ground (Kiba for this editor) and this can cause some plot holes like Sasuke's fight with the Sound Four as they try to tempt him with power by calling him weak... even if you don't resort to using the Cursed Seal (Rage Mode) to beat them. To be fair there is no way Naruto or the other Konoha genin could win against opponents like Itachi or Orochimaru in Part 1 and in some fights in The Broken Bond your real objective is not to win but to survive or use a specific move to beat your opponent.

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** In the Rise of A Ninja and The Broken Bond games the player is also forced to follow the storyline of the anime regardless of their actual performance in the game which leads to losses you can't avoid. It can be annoying to get trash-talked by your opponent in an animated cutscene after stomping them into the ground (Kiba for this editor) and this can cause some plot holes like Sasuke's fight with the Sound Four as they try to tempt him with power by calling him weak... even if you don't resort to using the Cursed Seal (Rage Mode) to beat them. To be fair there is no way Naruto or the other Konoha genin could win against opponents like Itachi or Orochimaru in Part 1 and in some fights in The Broken Bond your real objective is not to win but to survive or use a specific move to beat your opponent.
15th Jan '16 3:48:22 AM Awesomekid42
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* ''SonicRiders'', of all games, does this with a particularly irritating race in Story.

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* ''SonicRiders'', of all games, does this with during a particularly irritating race stage that takes place in Story.the tournament finals. If you don't get in first place, you fail the level. If you;re about to cross the finish line while in first, a cutscene will occur where Wave blows up Sonic's Extreme Gear allowing Jet to win.


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* In VideoGame/Disgaea2CursedMemories, there's a boss fight against Laharl. Lose, and the story continues. Win, and Laharl will blow up the planet leading to a NonStandardGameOver.
13th Jan '16 7:13:47 AM TheNerfGuy
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** In a series notorious for it, the concept is completely turned around in [[http://www.kongregate.com/games/danielsun/culmination Culmination]], an interquel taking place during the late-game story of Armed with Wings 3, a ForegoneConclusion setting explaining how and when the old hero died. You play him for most of the game and then you face off against the FinalBoss...only to realize that ''you're controlling HIM in this battle now!'' Cue the player using the Emperor's PurposefullyOverpowered arsenal to utterly destroy his earlier player character.

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** In a series notorious for it, the concept is completely turned around in [[http://www.kongregate.com/games/danielsun/culmination Culmination]], an interquel taking place during the late-game story of Armed with Wings 3, a ForegoneConclusion setting explaining how and when the old hero died. You play him for most of the game and then you face off against the FinalBoss...only to realize that ''you're controlling HIM in this battle now!'' Cue the player using the Emperor's PurposefullyOverpowered PurposelyOverpowered arsenal to utterly destroy his earlier player character.
18th Dec '15 8:00:15 PM Adept
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* An example from a miniboss is Void from ''GrandChase''. Basically, you have to avoid his projectiles, which deal decent damage, and more quickly, while dealing a massive 1 damage per hit. After a certain number of hits, he'll warp to the other side of the rather large arena, and start again. After enough hits have been done, a cutscene will happen, where he just steals what he's after, and warps off. If he takes out all your lives, you fail the dungeon. Not so hard in a party, but with slower characters in a solo run, you'll be hard pressed to not lose at least one life.

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* An example from a miniboss is Void from ''GrandChase''.''VideoGame/GrandChase''. Basically, you have to avoid his projectiles, which deal decent damage, and more quickly, while dealing a massive 1 damage per hit. After a certain number of hits, he'll warp to the other side of the rather large arena, and start again. After enough hits have been done, a cutscene will happen, where he just steals what he's after, and warps off. If he takes out all your lives, you fail the dungeon. Not so hard in a party, but with slower characters in a solo run, you'll be hard pressed to not lose at least one life.



* In the final battle of ''RingOfRed'', one of your goals is to keep the Prototype mechs used by Weizegger and Ryoko from falling into the hands of the Soviet commander pursuing you. [[spoiler:At the end of the mission, Weizegger and Ryoko ''both'' [[YouShallNotPass stay behind to hold off the Soviet forces]] in order to let their teammates escape.]]
* In ''SuperStarWars: TheEmpireStrikesBack'', once you "defeat" Vader, he chops off Luke's hand, [[DoomedByCanon just like in the film]].
* In ''AceCombatZero'', Mission 12, you have to shoot down a squadron of Belkan BM-335 bombers supposedly carrying nuclear payloads. If one gets away, it's mission failure. If you shoot them all down, you are exposed to a plot-central nuclear explosion that you just tried to prevent.
* In ''AirForceDelta Strike'', Ruth Valentine takes on a solo mission (without orders) to save a stranded hospital ship. No matter how many enemy aircraft you shoot down or the health of the ship, at the end of the MissionTimer, the ship is destroyed by enemy missiles and you suffer a mission failure.

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* In the final battle of ''RingOfRed'', ''VideoGame/RingOfRed'', one of your goals is to keep the Prototype mechs used by Weizegger and Ryoko from falling into the hands of the Soviet commander pursuing you. [[spoiler:At the end of the mission, Weizegger and Ryoko ''both'' [[YouShallNotPass stay behind to hold off the Soviet forces]] in order to let their teammates escape.]]
* In ''SuperStarWars: ''VideoGame/SuperStarWars: TheEmpireStrikesBack'', once you "defeat" Vader, he chops off Luke's hand, [[DoomedByCanon just like in the film]].
* In ''AceCombatZero'', ''VideoGame/AceCombatZero'', Mission 12, you have to shoot down a squadron of Belkan BM-335 bombers supposedly carrying nuclear payloads. If one gets away, it's mission failure. If you shoot them all down, you are exposed to a plot-central nuclear explosion that you just tried to prevent.
* In ''AirForceDelta ''VideoGame/AirForceDelta Strike'', Ruth Valentine takes on a solo mission (without orders) to save a stranded hospital ship. No matter how many enemy aircraft you shoot down or the health of the ship, at the end of the MissionTimer, the ship is destroyed by enemy missiles and you suffer a mission failure.



* ''LuminousArc2'' does this over and over and over, since it likes to use its boss enemies on several maps in a row. It's even a plot point with Bharva, who can only be permanently defeated on his own home plane of existence.

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* ''LuminousArc2'' ''VideoGame/LuminousArc2'' does this over and over and over, since it likes to use its boss enemies on several maps in a row. It's even a plot point with Bharva, who can only be permanently defeated on his own home plane of existence.
14th Dec '15 1:21:10 PM Awesomekid42
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** In ''Legacy of Goku 2'', there's a boss fight against Android 18. Lose, and it's game over. Attack her until she's about half health, and she'll fire a ki blast to instantly knock out your character before the story continues.
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