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21st Jul '16 3:41:40 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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There's also the question "Does anybody know you're here?" or similar. Answering 'no' means automatic death. It's rare to find someone GenreSavvy enough to lie and say something like, "Why yes, I told Bob, Joe, and Susan where I'd be going, who I was meeting, and what I'd be saying. And hell yeah, you can have this disc – IMadeCopies." Or, for that matter, to have ''actually told'' those people.

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There's also the question "Does anybody know you're here?" or similar. Answering 'no' means automatic death. It's rare to find someone GenreSavvy enough to lie and say something like, "Why yes, I told Bob, Joe, and Susan where I'd be going, who I was meeting, and what I'd be saying. And hell yeah, you can have this disc – IMadeCopies." Or, for that matter, to have ''actually told'' those people.



* {{Inverted}} in ''ComicStrip/{{Sovisa}}''. Aleksei reports to his captain about a strange signal that was sent from their ship. When the captain asks if he's told the rest of the crew yet, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Aleksei simply shoots him point blank in the chest]] and [[ThrownOutTheAirlock ejects his body out an airlock]].

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* {{Inverted}} in ''ComicStrip/{{Sovisa}}''. Aleksei reports to his captain about a strange signal that was sent from their ship. When the captain asks if he's told the rest of the crew yet, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Aleksei simply shoots him point blank in the chest]] chest and [[ThrownOutTheAirlock ejects his body out an airlock]].



* ''Film/BatmanReturns'' features Selina Kyle (Michelle Pfeiffer) going through these exact motions with her boss Max Shreck (Christopher Walken) about his plan to drain Gotham City of electricity. There's a bit of GenreSavvy there when Shreck approaches her with a menacing look, scaring her - and then he laughs, pretending it was all a joke. Soon Selina is laughing too.

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* ''Film/BatmanReturns'' features Selina Kyle (Michelle Pfeiffer) going through these exact motions with her boss Max Shreck (Christopher Walken) about his plan to drain Gotham City of electricity. There's a bit of GenreSavvy there when When Shreck approaches her with a menacing look, scaring her - and then he laughs, pretending it was all a joke. Soon Selina is laughing too.



* Discussed in ''Film/CloudAtlas''. As she continues to investigate a conspiracy, after ''already'' having been driven off a bridge and nearly killed, Luisa Rey (Creator/HalleBerry's 1973 character) tells her nephew waiting at her apartment a hint of what's going on, and that she'll tell him more in the morning. He [[GenreSavvy references this trope]] and warns her to tell him then and there, because she may die soon. Sure enough, after she sends him away, there's an assassin in her apartment. [[spoiler: The assassin, Joe Napier, is a friend of her father's, and betrayed his mission by protecting her from a separate assassin.]]

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* Discussed in ''Film/CloudAtlas''. As she continues to investigate a conspiracy, after ''already'' having been driven off a bridge and nearly killed, Luisa Rey (Creator/HalleBerry's 1973 character) tells her nephew waiting at her apartment a hint of what's going on, and that she'll tell him more in the morning. He [[GenreSavvy references this trope]] trope and warns her to tell him then and there, because she may die soon. Sure enough, after she sends him away, there's an assassin in her apartment. [[spoiler: The assassin, Joe Napier, is a friend of her father's, and betrayed his mission by protecting her from a separate assassin.]]



** IN another Expanded Universe novel, X-Wing: Mercy Kill, the DangerouslyGenreSavvy leader of the Wraiths calls out a traitorous general for trying to pull this.

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** IN another Expanded Universe novel, X-Wing: Mercy Kill, the DangerouslyGenreSavvy leader of the Wraiths calls out a traitorous general for trying to pull this.



* In "The Secret Vanguard" by Creator/MichaelInnes, the protagonist, who has stumbled across a Nazi spy ring, is telling her story to the local police commissioner when he asks her if she's told anyone else. She spots the significance at once: he isn't the police commissioner at all, and she's been brought to the spies' HQ. She promptly shows her GenreSavvy by changing her answer to "Yes", and while he's checking out her story, she makes her escape. By stealing a motorboat, no less.

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* In "The Secret Vanguard" by Creator/MichaelInnes, the protagonist, who has stumbled across a Nazi spy ring, is telling her story to the local police commissioner when he asks her if she's told anyone else. She spots the significance at once: he isn't the police commissioner at all, and she's been brought to the spies' HQ. She promptly shows her GenreSavvy by changing changes her answer to "Yes", and while he's checking out her story, she makes her escape. By stealing a motorboat, no less.



** Dean Craig Pelton is less genre savvy. When the "food" he bought for the campus Halloween party turned the student body into zombies, he notified the Army. When they arrived, the Dean foolishly answered, "No," when asked if anyone else knew about the zombies. An underling began to draw a gun but luckily another soldier realized the zombie plague was over so they went with Plan B.
* A [[MonsterOfTheWeek Villain of The Week]] attempts to invoke this with Sam on ''Series/BurnNotice''. Sam, GenreSavvy as he is, and posing as an undercover dirty cop, immediately says that his "supervisor" knows that Sam is interviewing him. Should something happen to Sam, then the supervisor knows who to come looking for. Nice save, Sam.

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** Dean Craig Pelton is less genre savvy. When the "food" he bought for the campus Halloween party turned the student body into zombies, he notified the Army. When they arrived, the Dean foolishly answered, "No," when asked if anyone else knew about the zombies. An underling began to draw a gun but luckily another soldier realized the zombie plague was over so they went with Plan B.
* A [[MonsterOfTheWeek Villain of The Week]] attempts to invoke this with Sam on ''Series/BurnNotice''. Sam, GenreSavvy as he is, and posing as an undercover dirty cop, immediately says that his "supervisor" knows that Sam is interviewing him. Should something happen to Sam, then the supervisor knows who to come looking for. Nice save, Sam.



** When Veronica figures out that Cassidy Casablancas blew up the bus full of kids at the beginning of the season to cover up his childhood molestation by Woody Goodman, he asks her at gunpoint if she told anyone else what she figured out. Being GenreSavvy, she tells him she told her dad, Keith, and he was on his way back to Neptune with Woody. Unfortunately it backfires, as Cassidy was planning on blowing up Woody's plane anyway. So he presses the detonator to kill both Woody and Keith, then tries to kill Veronica. Veronica gets saved of course, and it turns out Keith had to get off the plane just before take off, so it turned out to be a SurprisinglyHappyEnding.

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** When Veronica figures out that Cassidy Casablancas blew up the bus full of kids at the beginning of the season to cover up his childhood molestation by Woody Goodman, he asks her at gunpoint if she told anyone else what she figured out. Being GenreSavvy, she She tells him she told her dad, Keith, and he was on his way back to Neptune with Woody. Unfortunately it backfires, as Cassidy was planning on blowing up Woody's plane anyway. So he presses the detonator to kill both Woody and Keith, then tries to kill Veronica. Veronica gets saved of course, and it turns out Keith had to get off the plane just before take off, so it turned out to be a SurprisinglyHappyEnding.



* ''Series/{{Angel}}''. Two criminals ask a DirtyCop if he's told his daughter (a police detective) about his dealings with them. GenreSavvy enough to realise where this conversation is heading, the cop draws his firearm. Unfortunately he doesn't know the criminals [[ImmuneToBullets are also vampires]].
* ''Series/TheWrongMans''. [[spoiler:Paul Smoke]] asks Marat Milankovic if he's told anybody else about the data. Marat, in a rare case of GenreSavvy, asks why it matters and refuses to tell. He dies not too long afterwards, but for different reasons.
** Earlier in the series, [[spoiler:Paul Smoke]] asks Jack Walker if he's told anyone else about the Russian [[TheMole mole]] in their intelligence organization. Jack fails his GenreSavvy check and losing the ensuing fight scene.

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* ''Series/{{Angel}}''. Two criminals ask a DirtyCop if he's told his daughter (a police detective) about his dealings with them. GenreSavvy enough to realise realizing where this conversation is heading, the cop draws his firearm. Unfortunately he doesn't know the criminals [[ImmuneToBullets are also vampires]].
* ''Series/TheWrongMans''. [[spoiler:Paul Smoke]] asks Marat Milankovic if he's told anybody else about the data. Marat, in a rare case of GenreSavvy, Marat asks why it matters and refuses to tell. He dies not too long afterwards, but for different reasons.
** Earlier in the series, [[spoiler:Paul Smoke]] asks Jack Walker if he's told anyone else about the Russian [[TheMole mole]] in their intelligence organization. Jack fails his GenreSavvy check and losing loses the ensuing fight scene.



* In ''Webcomic/{{Kaspall}}'', [[http://kaspall.com/comic/2010/12/05.html the only person they told was a trustworthy police sergeant]] -- in fact, trustworthy enough [[GenreSavvy to call them idiots for not reporting it earlier]].

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Kaspall}}'', [[http://kaspall.com/comic/2010/12/05.html the only person they told was a trustworthy police sergeant]] -- in fact, trustworthy enough [[GenreSavvy to call them idiots for not reporting it earlier]].earlier.



* [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2014-10-14 Preemptively averted]] in ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' when an officer is confronted by someone she knows to be an undercover intelligence agent for some very nasty people intent on "suppressing" the information she's just become a party to. In the guise of being helpful she quickly explains that as a spy herself, she's equipped with implants for full audio-visual surveillance, [[GenreSavvy which are also broadcasting a live steam to her controllers on board an enormous warship.]]

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* [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2014-10-14 Preemptively averted]] in ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' when an officer is confronted by someone she knows to be an undercover intelligence agent for some very nasty people intent on "suppressing" the information she's just become a party to. In the guise of being helpful she quickly explains that as a spy herself, she's equipped with implants for full audio-visual surveillance, [[GenreSavvy which are also broadcasting a live steam to her controllers on board an enormous warship.]]
20th Jul '16 1:10:16 AM Morgenthaler
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* Inverted in ''Anime/EdenOfTheEast''. [[BigBad Mononobe]] plans to lure [[TheHero Takizawa Akira]] to his side, and explains his EvilPlan to him. In a moment of [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy extreme genre-savviness]], Takizawa had called his LoveInterest just before meeting up with the BigBad and leaves his phone on so she can listen in. Mononobe thinks Takizawa can't do anything to avert his plan, and lets him go when he can't convert him. [[IdiotBall Yeah, that ends about as you'd expect]].

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* Inverted in ''Anime/EdenOfTheEast''. [[BigBad Mononobe]] plans to lure [[TheHero Takizawa Akira]] to his side, and explains his EvilPlan to him. In a moment of [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy extreme genre-savviness]], cunning, Takizawa had called his LoveInterest just before meeting up with the BigBad and leaves his phone on so she can listen in. Mononobe thinks Takizawa can't do anything to avert his plan, and lets him go when he can't convert him. [[IdiotBall Yeah, that ends about as you'd expect]].
2nd Jul '16 4:25:35 PM SomberCaelifera
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* Invoked in the ''Series/{{Bones}}'' episode "Judas on a Pull"

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* Invoked in the ''Series/{{Bones}}'' episode "Judas on a Pull"Pole"
22nd Jun '16 5:19:06 AM tiiger
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** In the penultimate episode the series, The Machine runs a series of simulations that show [[spoiler:what would have happened it if it had never been invented]]. In one of these, a previous number from season 2 who uncovered information about The Machine, goes to [[spoiler:Sameen Shaw]] with his findings, and the trope plays out as expected.
11th Jun '16 3:10:45 PM Dravencour
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It also sometimes happens that the informant is savvy enough to take their discovery straight to the legal authorities – only to find out too late that TheBadGuysAreCops.

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It also sometimes happens that the informant is savvy enough to take their discovery straight to the legal authorities – only to find out too late that TheBadGuysAreCops.
[[DirtyCop the cops are in league with the bad guys]], or worse, [[TheBadGuysAreCops ARE the bad guys themselves]].
10th Jun '16 10:16:52 AM Morgenthaler
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* Creator/CSLewis's ''[[{{Narnia}} The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe]]'': When Edmund, under the influence of [[EvilTastesGood evil Turkish Delight]], tells the White Witch his sister has also been to Narnia and met a faun, she quickly asks him who else knows about this, but he's in no condition, and for that matter has no ''reason'', at this point to be suspicious.

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* Creator/CSLewis's ''[[{{Narnia}} The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe]]'': ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'': When Edmund, under the influence of [[EvilTastesGood evil Turkish Delight]], tells the White Witch his sister has also been to Narnia and met a faun, she quickly asks him who else knows about this, but he's in no condition, and for that matter has no ''reason'', at this point to be suspicious.



* In DeanKoontz's ''Brother Odd'', OddThomas questions a number of suspects in a ClosedCircle murder case. One of them asks if Odd has told anyone else about a certain piece of evidence, then offers him something to eat. Odd {{Lampshades}} this trope in his narration, then politely declines the food.

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* In DeanKoontz's Creator/DeanKoontz's ''Brother Odd'', OddThomas questions a number of suspects in a ClosedCircle murder case. One of them asks if Odd has told anyone else about a certain piece of evidence, then offers him something to eat. Odd {{Lampshades}} this trope in his narration, then politely declines the food.
31st May '16 7:04:55 AM MCanter89
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# As soon as you innocently tell him that no, he's the first person you've mentioned this to, he's likely going to make sure that information [[HeKnowsTooMuch dies with you]]. [[RedShirt Check your shirt color.]]
# Occasionally there is another step: Why yes, there was ''one'' person you told, Mr. Dead-Meat. By amazing coincidence, Mr. Dead-Meat [[TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch accidentally shoots himself in the back of the head twice]] the next day. You are still alive because you're too dumb to connect the dots and there's probably some part of the EvilPlan [[UnwittingPawn you need to fulfill]]. [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness But chances are you'll be dead anyway.]]

There's also the question "Does anybody know you're here?" or similar. Answering 'no' means automatic death. It's rare to find someone GenreSavvy enough to lie and say something like, "Why yes, I told Bob, Joe, and Susan where I'd be going, and who I was meeting, and what I'd be saying. And hell yeah, you can have this disc - IMadeCopies." Or, for that matter, to have ''actually told'' those people.

Rather, they proudly(!) admit that they told Nialliv first, sometimes even adding, "I'm not stupid." For the one who noticed the hole in his EvilPlan, they aren't too bright, are they? (Admittedly, the reasons for telling only Nialliv tend to be something positive, like shaky proof, or information that might cause a panic/riots/mob violence targeting innocent people. If only Nialliv wasn't on TheDarkSide...) If they do say they told someone else, it's obvious that they just ''now'' realized their error, and are badly lying about it. Nialliv sees right through this. Actually, this has started to get subverted more these days. Especially if it's the hero doing it, they probably already have sent the information to all the major publishers, or have some backup plan. But then, that's usually only if they suspect the person.

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# As soon as you innocently tell him that that, no, he's the first person you've mentioned this to, he's likely going to make sure that information [[HeKnowsTooMuch dies with you]]. [[RedShirt Check your shirt color.]]
# Occasionally Occasionally, there is another step: Why yes, there was ''one'' person you told, told: Mr. Dead-Meat. By amazing coincidence, Mr. Dead-Meat [[TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch accidentally shoots himself in the back of the head twice]] the next day. You are still alive because you're too dumb to connect the dots and there's probably some part of the EvilPlan [[UnwittingPawn you need to fulfill]]. [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness But chances are are, you'll be dead anyway.]]

There's also the question "Does anybody know you're here?" or similar. Answering 'no' means automatic death. It's rare to find someone GenreSavvy enough to lie and say something like, "Why yes, I told Bob, Joe, and Susan where I'd be going, and who I was meeting, and what I'd be saying. And hell yeah, you can have this disc - IMadeCopies." Or, for that matter, to have ''actually told'' those people.

Rather, they proudly(!) admit that they told Nialliv first, sometimes even adding, "I'm not stupid." For the one who noticed the hole in his EvilPlan, they aren't too bright, are they? (Admittedly, the reasons for telling only Nialliv tend to be something positive, like shaky proof, or information that might cause a panic/riots/mob violence targeting innocent people. If only Nialliv wasn't on TheDarkSide...) TheDarkSide…) If they do say they told someone else, it's obvious that they just ''now'' realized their error, error and are badly lying about it. Nialliv sees right through this. Actually, this has started to get subverted more these days. Especially if it's the hero doing it, they probably already have sent the information to all the major publishers, publishers or have some backup plan. But then, that's usually only if they suspect the person.



It also sometimes happens that the informant is savvy enough to take their discovery straight to the legal authorities -- only to find out too late that TheBadGuysAreCops.

Sometimes phrased as "Does anyone else know about this?" or "Have you discussed this with anyone else?" The key words are always "anyone else." Occasionally one gets "Have you told [specific other person] yet?", where the other person is someone with the power to do something about it -- the boss, the Slayer, whatever. Of course, anyone else they told could tell the specific other person, but it may be phrased this way as an opening for the doomed conversationalist to dutifully respond, "No, I haven't told anybody..."

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It also sometimes happens that the informant is savvy enough to take their discovery straight to the legal authorities -- only to find out too late that TheBadGuysAreCops.

Sometimes phrased as "Does anyone else know about this?" or "Have you discussed this with anyone else?" The key words are always "anyone else." Occasionally one gets "Have you told [specific other person] yet?", where the other person is someone with the power to do something about it -- the boss, the Slayer, whatever. Of course, anyone else they told could tell the specific other person, but it may be phrased this way as an opening for the doomed conversationalist to dutifully respond, "No, I haven't told anybody..."
anybody…"
22nd May '16 11:40:01 PM MikeW
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* ''Series/TheExpanse'': Joe Miller, a [[HardboiledDetective detective of Star Helix Security]], finds an important clue in the [[TheConspiracy leading mystery of the season]]. When he presents it to [[spoiler:his employer]], she asks him the question word by word as well as asking him whether he made any copies. When he answers no to both questions ([[spoiler:the former being a lie]]), she [[spoiler:secures the evidence in her safe, revokes all his security clearances, fires him, and has him forcibly removed from the building]].

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* ''Series/TheExpanse'': Joe Miller, a [[HardboiledDetective detective of Star Helix Security]], finds an important clue in the [[TheConspiracy leading mystery of the season]]. When he presents it to [[spoiler:his employer]], she asks him the question word by word as well as asking him whether he made any copies. When he answers no to both questions ([[spoiler:the former being a lie]]), she [[spoiler:secures the evidence in her safe, revokes all his security clearances, fires him, and has him forcibly removed from the building]].building. Miller instantly realizes his boss has been bought by those in charge but smartly leaves, realizing he can't win in a fight right now]].
16th May '16 10:36:49 AM Prfnoff
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* In the {{Pilot}} of ''Series/MadMen'', Don Draper asks a researcher who hands him her report on the public's psychological attitude toward cigarettes if she's shown it to anyone else. When she tells him she hasn't, he dismisses her with a complaint about her Freudian approach and then tosses the report into the wastebasket.
6th May '16 8:09:18 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* In ''SupermanDoomsday'', ComicBook/LexLuthor does this to Mercy.

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* In ''SupermanDoomsday'', ''WesternAnimation/SupermanDoomsday'', ComicBook/LexLuthor does this to Mercy.
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