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4th Mar '17 2:08:45 PM nombretomado
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* MarvelComics played with this trope. The USSR/Soviet Union were not always mentioned by name but terms like: Reds, Commies, Moscow and Kremlin were common. This let to odd situations. In the first issue of the Fantastic Four, they steal a space shuttle to beat the communists into space, given that no other nation had a space program at the time, it's a clear reference to the Soviet space program. However the Soviets are just mentioned as Communists. In some cases they averted it, ComicBook/IronMan for example was injured in UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar and it's stated to be as such. However a lot of these references were removed as time went on.

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* MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics played with this trope. The USSR/Soviet Union were not always mentioned by name but terms like: Reds, Commies, Moscow and Kremlin were common. This let to odd situations. In the first issue of the Fantastic Four, they steal a space shuttle to beat the communists into space, given that no other nation had a space program at the time, it's a clear reference to the Soviet space program. However the Soviets are just mentioned as Communists. In some cases they averted it, ComicBook/IronMan for example was injured in UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar and it's stated to be as such. However a lot of these references were removed as time went on.
24th Feb '17 12:36:30 PM ElSquibbonator
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** The [[Theatre/Anastasia stage adaptation]] averts this--in it, Rasputin is gone and the Soviet government have become the antagonists.

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** The [[Theatre/Anastasia 2016 stage adaptation]] adaptation of the film averts this--in it, Rasputin is gone and the Soviet government have become the antagonists.
24th Feb '17 12:35:51 PM ElSquibbonator
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** The [[Theater/Anastasia stage adaptation]] averts this--in it, Rasputin is gone and the Soviet government have become the antagonists.

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** The [[Theater/Anastasia [[Theatre/Anastasia stage adaptation]] averts this--in it, Rasputin is gone and the Soviet government have become the antagonists.
24th Feb '17 12:35:26 PM ElSquibbonator
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* Not made during the Cold War, and set much earlier but mentionable: the Creator/DonBluth animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' ignores the politics of the Bolshevik Uprising (merging the February and October Revolutions into one event as well) and gives Rasputin a HistoricalVillainUpgrade to turn him into an {{evil sorcerer}} who sold his soul to the devil for magic so he could kill the Romanovs. Exactly ''one'' fleeting mention is given to "Reds" in an off-hand comment.

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* Not made during the Cold War, and set much earlier but mentionable: the Creator/DonBluth animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' ignores the politics of the Bolshevik Uprising (merging the February and October Revolutions into one event as well) and gives Rasputin a HistoricalVillainUpgrade to turn him into an {{evil sorcerer}} who sold his soul to the devil for magic so he could kill the Romanovs. Exactly There is ''one'' fleeting mention joke about "everything being Red", but that's it.
** The [[Theater/Anastasia stage adaptation]] averts this--in it, Rasputin
is given to "Reds" in an off-hand comment.
gone and the Soviet government have become the antagonists.
21st Jan '17 5:19:42 PM ElSquibbonator
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* A non-Russian example: The vaguely-Asian invading power in ''Literature/TheTomorrowSeries'' is never identified, and indeed [[http://www.rsimpson.id.au/books/tomorrow/explore/enemy.html no nation]] could possibly fit all the criteria for the invaders. This was an intentional decision by the author, who wanted to focus on the story and characters and didn't want nationalists to use the books for their own ends.

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* A non-Russian example: The vaguely-Asian invading power in ''Literature/TheTomorrowSeries'' is never identified, and indeed [[http://www.rsimpson.id.au/books/tomorrow/explore/enemy.html no nation]] could possibly fit all the criteria for the invaders. invaders (the closest match is Indonesia, which only lacks an aircraft carrier but could possibly build one). This was an intentional decision by the author, who wanted to focus on the story and characters and didn't want nationalists to use the books for their own ends.
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20th Nov '16 7:20:13 AM Morgenthaler
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* A non-Russian example: The vaguely-Asian invading power in ''TheTomorrowSeries'' is never identified, and indeed [[http://www.rsimpson.id.au/books/tomorrow/explore/enemy.html no nation]] could possibly fit all the criteria for the invaders. This was an intentional decision by the author, who wanted to focus on the story and characters and didn't want nationalists to use the books for their own ends.

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* A non-Russian example: The vaguely-Asian invading power in ''TheTomorrowSeries'' ''Literature/TheTomorrowSeries'' is never identified, and indeed [[http://www.rsimpson.id.au/books/tomorrow/explore/enemy.html no nation]] could possibly fit all the criteria for the invaders. This was an intentional decision by the author, who wanted to focus on the story and characters and didn't want nationalists to use the books for their own ends.



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18th Oct '16 1:06:40 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/ThePrisoner'' had a few episodes where Number Six or his former superiors at MI6 refer to 'The Other Side'. Of course, with how weird and vague ''The Prisoner'' could be, perhaps the other side ISN'T the Russians.
** And of course Number Six doesn't know ''which side'' actually runs the Village.

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* ''Series/ThePrisoner'' ''Series/ThePrisoner1967'' had a few episodes where Number Six or his former superiors at MI6 refer to 'The Other Side'. Of course, with how weird and vague ''The Prisoner'' could be, perhaps the other side ISN'T the Russians.
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Russians. And of course Number Six doesn't know ''which side'' actually runs the Village.
18th Oct '16 1:05:24 PM Morgenthaler
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* The classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' serial ''Warriors of the Deep'' was in a nightmare future where two "massive power blocs" were locked in... well, it was the cold war. But we only ever heard whoever the others were referred to as 'the opposing bloc'. Which was odd, considering two of the characters were undercover agents from their side and went on to refer to themselves as such after the reveal.

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
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The classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' serial ''Warriors of the Deep'' was in a nightmare future where two "massive power blocs" were locked in... well, it was the cold war. But we only ever heard whoever the others were referred to as 'the opposing bloc'. Which was odd, considering two of the characters were undercover agents from their side and went on to refer to themselves as such after the reveal.



* The first season of ''Series/TwentyFour'' featured a Serbian mafia/military family called the Drazens as the villains. Although they spoke Serbian on screen, they were often referred to being from the "Balkans" instead of Yugoslavia.

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* ''Series/TwentyFour'':
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The first season of ''Series/TwentyFour'' featured a Serbian mafia/military family called the Drazens as the villains. Although they spoke Serbian on screen, they were often referred to being from the "Balkans" instead of Yugoslavia.
18th Oct '16 1:04:38 PM Morgenthaler
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** Wow, it is '''[[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp really weird]]''' to think of Smith as some kind of Soviet agent.
*** For that matter it's pretty strange to think of [[DirtyCoward Doctor]] [[ReliableTraitor Smith]] as [[TheLoad an agent of]] [[VillainDecay any kind at all]]
** The series [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture was set in 1997]] so the people behind it assumed [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp the Cold War would be over]]. At least, that's what they say ''now''...
18th Oct '16 1:03:52 PM Morgenthaler
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* An original ''Series/TwilightZone'' episode, "Two", seems to follow this trope. Elizabeth Montgomery is very Soviet in uniform and appearance and her one line is "Precrassny", Russian for "pretty". Of course, it's clearly an AfterTheEnd AdamAndEvePlot with an explicitly ambiguous TranslationConvention, so perhaps not?
** Possible subversions: Two other original ''Series/TwilightZone'' episodes, "Probe 7, Over And Out" and "Third from the Sun", use this trope, but it turns out at the end that the characters are NOT from or on Earth, respectively. In this case, it's to setup a world we THINK we know, and then hit us with the TwistEnding.

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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'':
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An original ''Series/TwilightZone'' episode, "Two", seems to follow this trope. Elizabeth Montgomery is very Soviet in uniform and appearance and her one line is "Precrassny", Russian for "pretty". Of course, it's clearly an AfterTheEnd AdamAndEvePlot with an explicitly ambiguous TranslationConvention, so perhaps not?
** Possible subversions: Two other original ''Series/TwilightZone'' episodes, "Probe 7, Over And Out" and "Third from the Sun", use this trope, but it turns out at the end that the characters are NOT from or on Earth, respectively. In this case, it's to setup a world we THINK we know, and then hit us with the TwistEnding.
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