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The use of this trope diminished in the 70s and 80s, partly because during detente it became customary to occasionally show Americans and Soviets working together against a common enemy, often [[WesternTerrorists Neo]]-[[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]], [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror Middle Eastern Terrorists]], [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Greedy Industrialists]], [[TheMafia Organized]] [[TheMafiya Crime]] or [[AlienInvasion Alien Invaders]]. It finally entered ForgottenTrope territory with the dissolution of the Soviet Union, with subsequent works openly invoking the hammer and sickle in Cold War period pieces. It still has some traction in certain former Soviet nations, such as Hungary and the Baltic states, which ban the display of "totalitarian symbols" of which the hammer & sickle is considered one (other symbols falling under the ban are usually the swastika and the arrow cross).

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The use of this trope diminished in the 70s and 80s, partly because during detente it became customary to occasionally show Americans and Soviets working together against a common enemy, often [[WesternTerrorists Neo]]-[[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]], [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror Middle Eastern Terrorists]], [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Greedy Industrialists]], [[TheMafia Organized]] [[TheMafiya Crime]] or [[AlienInvasion Alien Invaders]]. It finally entered ForgottenTrope territory with the dissolution of the Soviet Union, with subsequent works openly invoking the hammer and sickle in Cold War period pieces. It still has some traction in certain former Soviet Warsaw Pact nations, such as Hungary and the Baltic states, which ban the display of "totalitarian symbols" of which the hammer & sickle is considered one (other symbols falling under the ban are usually the swastika and the arrow cross).
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* The Villains in ''Film/TopGun'' are from an unnamed communist state, which is also referred to only as "The Other Side." The naming scheme continues with the opposing country of ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' and [[ExaggeratedTrope carries on to the enemy country's jets]] - in the first film, [=MiGs=] were [=MiGs=], but in this one "Felons" are "[[InsistentTerminology Fifth-Generation Fighters]]".

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* The Villains in ''Film/TopGun'' are from an unnamed communist state, which is also referred to only as "The Other Side." The naming scheme continues with the opposing country of ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' and [[ExaggeratedTrope carries on to the enemy country's jets]] - in the first film, [=MiGs=] were [=MiGs=], but in this one "Felons" are "[[InsistentTerminology Fifth-Generation Fighters]]"."
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* The Villains in ''Film/TopGun'' are from an unnamed communist state, which is also referred to only as "The Other Side."

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* The Villains in ''Film/TopGun'' are from an unnamed communist state, which is also referred to only as "The Other Side."" The naming scheme continues with the opposing country of ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' and [[ExaggeratedTrope carries on to the enemy country's jets]] - in the first film, [=MiGs=] were [=MiGs=], but in this one "Felons" are "[[InsistentTerminology Fifth-Generation Fighters]]".

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* Not made during the Cold War, and set much earlier, but mentionable: the Creator/DonBluth animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' ignores the politics of the Bolshevik Uprising (merging the February and October Revolutions into one event as well) and gives Rasputin a HistoricalVillainUpgrade to turn him into an {{evil sorcerer}} who sold his soul to the devil for magic so he could kill the Romanovs. There is ''one'' joke about "everything being Red", but that's it.

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\n* Not made during the Cold War, and set much earlier, but mentionable: worth mentioning: the Creator/DonBluth animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' ignores the politics of the Bolshevik Uprising (merging the February [[UsefulNotes/RomanovsAndRevolutions February]] and October [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober October]] Revolutions into one event as well) and gives Rasputin a HistoricalVillainUpgrade to turn him into an {{evil sorcerer}} who sold his soul to the devil for magic so he could kill the Romanovs. There is ''one'' joke about "everything being Red", but and that's it.it. And there's no trace of the bloody Russian Civil War either.



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* [[Literature/TheZackFiles The Zack Files]] book ''This Body’s Not Big Enough For Both Of Us'' plays with this phrasing—- a medium says they are in the presence of [[OurGhostsAreDifferent a being from “the other side”]], and Zack clarifies that “she didn’t mean Russia”, but rather the afterlife.
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* In ''ComicBook/{{Tintin}}'', the country of Borduria, with its mustachioed dictator Kûrvi-Tasch ([[IncrediblyLamePun Pleksy-Gladz]] in the original French), is a fictional Russian satellite state.

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Tintin}}'', the country of Borduria, with its mustachioed dictator Kûrvi-Tasch ([[IncrediblyLamePun ([[{{Pun}} Pleksy-Gladz]] in the original French), is a fictional Russian satellite state.



* The Americans were known for using a similar tactic, with a generic [[UsefulNotes/WarsawPact Warsaw Pact]] invasion coming from a country known as [[BilingualBonus Krasnovia]]/[[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Krasnova]]/[[IncrediblyLamePun Krasnoya]]

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* The Americans were known for using a similar tactic, with a generic [[UsefulNotes/WarsawPact Warsaw Pact]] invasion coming from a country known as [[BilingualBonus Krasnovia]]/[[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Krasnova]]/[[IncrediblyLamePun Krasnova]]/[[{{Pun}} Krasnoya]]
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* The Americans were known for using a similar tactic, with a generic [[UsefulNotes/WarsawPact Warsaw Pact]] invasion coming from a country known as [[BilingualBonus Krasnovia]]/[[RedsWithRockets Krasnova]]/[[IncrediblyLamePun Krasnoya]]

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* The Americans were known for using a similar tactic, with a generic [[UsefulNotes/WarsawPact Warsaw Pact]] invasion coming from a country known as [[BilingualBonus Krasnovia]]/[[RedsWithRockets Krasnovia]]/[[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Krasnova]]/[[IncrediblyLamePun Krasnoya]]
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** The classic serial "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E1WarriorsOfTheDeep Warriors of the Deep]]" was in a nightmare future where two "massive power blocs" were locked in... well, it was the cold war. But we only ever heard whoever the others were referred to as 'the opposing bloc'. Which was odd, considering two of the characters were undercover agents from their side and went on to refer to themselves as such after the reveal. The idea ''seems'' to have been that we don't know they're the same blocs, or even which one the main characters belong to ("Vorshak" isn't a real name at all, but ''[[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign sounds]]'' kind of East European), but it doesn't come across like that at all. (And the [[Literature/DoctorWhoNovelisations novelisation]] just flat out calls the enemy the East Bloc, and gives it a UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans philosophy, but stil doesn't actually use the words "communist" or "Russia".)

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** The classic serial "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E1WarriorsOfTheDeep Warriors of the Deep]]" was in a nightmare future where two "massive power blocs" were locked in... well, it was the cold war. But we only ever heard whoever the others were referred to as 'the opposing bloc'. Which was odd, considering two of the characters were undercover agents from their side and went on to refer to themselves as such after the reveal. The idea ''seems'' to have been that we don't know they're the same blocs, or even which one the main characters belong to ("Vorshak" isn't a real name at all, but ''[[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign sounds]]'' kind of East European), but it doesn't come across like that at all. (And the [[Literature/DoctorWhoNovelisations novelisation]] just flat out calls the enemy the East Bloc, and gives it a UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans philosophy, but stil still doesn't actually use the words "communist" or "Russia".)

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* A few Creator/IsaacAsimov short stories are set in a world where the UsefulNotes/ColdWar has gone on for so long that most people don't even remember what the original names of the two power blocs are anymore, and simply referring to the two as "Them" and "Us" instead.





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\n* A few Creator/IsaacAsimov short stories are set in a world where the UsefulNotes/ColdWar has gone on for so long that most people don't even remember what the original names of the two power blocs are anymore, and simply referring to the two as "Them" and "Us" instead. It's specifically stated that, after a hundred years of developments, not all of Them are Communist or Eastern, making the old names inaccurate.



* Justified in "Literature/LetsGetTogether" by Creator/IsaacAsimov, where the Cold War has been going on so long, and got so complex, that it's ''inaccurate'' to refer to "the Communists" or "the Eastern Bloc", because they aren't all communist and they aren't all in the East. They're just "Them".

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* Justified in "Literature/LetsGetTogether" by Creator/IsaacAsimov, where the Cold War has been going on so long, and got so complex, that it's ''inaccurate'' to refer to "the Communists" or "the Eastern Bloc", because they aren't all communist and they aren't all in the East. They're just "Them".
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* Justified in "Literature/LetsGetTogether" by Creator/IsaacAsimov, where the Cold War has been going on so long, and got so complex, that it's ''inaccurate'' to refer to "the Communists" or "the Eastern Bloc", because they aren't all communist and they aren't all in the East. They're just "Them".
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** The classic serial "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E1WarriorsOfTheDeep Warriors of the Deep]]" was in a nightmare future where two "massive power blocs" were locked in... well, it was the cold war. But we only ever heard whoever the others were referred to as 'the opposing bloc'. Which was odd, considering two of the characters were undercover agents from their side and went on to refer to themselves as such after the reveal. The idea ''seems'' to have been that we don't know they're the same blocs, or even which one the main characters belong to ("Vorshak" isn't a real name at all, but ''[[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign sounds]]'' kind of East European), but it doesn't come across like that at all. (And the [[Literature/DoctorWhoNovelisations novelisation]] just flat out calls the enemy is the East Bloc, and gives it a UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans philosophy, but stil doesn't actually use the words "communist" or "Russia".)

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** The classic serial "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E1WarriorsOfTheDeep Warriors of the Deep]]" was in a nightmare future where two "massive power blocs" were locked in... well, it was the cold war. But we only ever heard whoever the others were referred to as 'the opposing bloc'. Which was odd, considering two of the characters were undercover agents from their side and went on to refer to themselves as such after the reveal. The idea ''seems'' to have been that we don't know they're the same blocs, or even which one the main characters belong to ("Vorshak" isn't a real name at all, but ''[[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign sounds]]'' kind of East European), but it doesn't come across like that at all. (And the [[Literature/DoctorWhoNovelisations novelisation]] just flat out calls the enemy is the East Bloc, and gives it a UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans philosophy, but stil doesn't actually use the words "communist" or "Russia".)

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