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13th Jul '16 10:36:00 AM MasoTey
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* One episode of ''Series/TheTimeTunnel'' had the time-traveling heroes [[RandomTransportation show up]] in a city with a hostile vibe and a lot of Cyrillic signage. The decided they were in "Southeast Europe." The plot revolved around a rival Time Tunnel being developed by Them.

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* One episode of ''Series/TheTimeTunnel'' had the time-traveling heroes [[RandomTransportation show up]] in a city with a hostile vibe and a lot of Cyrillic signage. The decided they were in "Southeast Europe." The plot revolved around a scientist from a carefully unnamed foreign power, who was developing a rival Time Tunnel being developed by Them.
Tunnel.
13th Jul '16 10:33:06 AM MasoTey
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* One episode of ''Series/TheTimeTunnel'' had the time-traveling heroes [[RandomTransportation show up]] in a city with a hostile vibe and a lot of Cyrillic signage. The decided they were in "Southeast Europe." The plot revolved around a rival Time Tunnel being developed by Them.
3rd Jul '16 6:25:46 PM Doug86
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* A training film for the [[WorldWarII OSS]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzR0kdGp5s "Undercover"]] (directed by John Ford) has the characters (two undercover agents [[RightWayWrongWayPair showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to perform said operations]]; and their handlers) using "[[InsistentTerminology Enemy Area]]" to describe the fictional country they have been assigned to (which quite blatantly seems to be Germany).

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* A training film for the [[WorldWarII [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII OSS]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzR0kdGp5s "Undercover"]] (directed by John Ford) has the characters (two undercover agents [[RightWayWrongWayPair showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to perform said operations]]; and their handlers) using "[[InsistentTerminology Enemy Area]]" to describe the fictional country they have been assigned to (which quite blatantly seems to be Germany).
17th Jun '16 12:52:08 PM PatPayne
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* Played with in the AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho drama ''Thin Ice''. The Doctor makes no secret to the listener that he and Ace have traveled to Moscow just prior to the parade for the 50th anniversary of the Russian Revolution, but oddly enough, '''nobody''' anywhere in the drama utters the name Soviet Union, or mentions the Communist Party of same, always using circumlocutions. [[FridgeLogic of course, since this script was originally developed at a time when the USSR was still around, the trope may have been deliberately used to give an '80s feel.]]

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* Played with in the AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho drama ''Thin Ice''. The Doctor makes no secret to the listener that he and Ace have traveled to Moscow in 1968 just prior to the parade for the 50th anniversary of the Russian Revolution, Revolution [[note]](the parade itself figures in a set-piece chase in one of the episodes)[[/note]], but oddly enough, '''nobody''' anywhere in the drama utters the name Soviet Union, or mentions the Communist Party of same, always using circumlocutions. [[FridgeLogic of course, since this script was originally developed at a time when the USSR was still around, the trope may have been deliberately used to give an '80s feel.]]
17th Jun '16 12:48:59 PM PatPayne
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* Played with in the AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho drama ''Thin Ice''. The Doctor makes no secret to the listener that he and Ace have traveled to Moscow just prior to the parade for the 50th anniversary of the Russian Revolution, but oddly enough, '''nobody''' anywhere in the drama utters the name Soviet Union, or mentions the Communist Party of same, always using circumlocutions. [[FridgeLogic of course, since this script was originally developed at a time when the USSR was still around, the trope may have been deliberately used to give an '80s feel.]]
17th Jun '16 12:25:05 PM PatPayne
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* ''Series/WhyWeFight'': The films overall, and ''The Battle of Russia'' egregiously so, don't mention Communism at all and only ever portray the Soviet Union as a strong and loyal ally.

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* ''Series/WhyWeFight'': The films overall, and ''The Battle of Russia'' egregiously so, don't mention Communism at all and only ever portray the Soviet Union as a strong and loyal ally. [[EnforcedTrope Enforced]], as telling the exact truth of the USSR's involvement in World War Two prior to June 1941 was a sure way to piss off a very necessary ally, as well as put the inconvenient question of why were were allied with them in the first place into our troops.
14th May '16 7:00:25 AM Random888
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In these cases, the good guys always call them The Other Side, or The Enemy. And one can almost hear those capital letters being pronounced, when that other side is referred to.

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In these cases, the good guys always call them The Other Side, or The Enemy.Enemy, or A Foreign Power. And one can almost hear those capital letters being pronounced, when that other side is referred to.
14th May '16 6:57:21 AM Random888
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!!Examples:

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!!Examples:
!!Examples in which the unnamed country is the Soviet Union or another presumably communist state:



[[AC:EasternEuropeanAnimation]]
* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETJt_zbnKk This]] Soviet cartoon is set in "Some Land". "Some Land" includes a place named "Fifth Avenue", GratuitousEnglish writing, and a legislative body called "the Senate". Gee, I wonder what country that's supposed to be. (It's also amusing to note that in 1963, the Soviet perception of American culture was apparently [[TwoDecadesBehind stuck in the 1920s]].)



* Not made during the Cold War, and set much earlier but mentionable: the Creator/DonBluth animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' ignores the politics of the Bolshevik Uprising (merging the February and October Revolutions into one event as well) and gives Rasputin a HistoricalVillainUpgrade to turn him into an {{evil sorcerer}} who sold his soul to the devil for magic so he could kill the Romanovs.
** Exactly ''one'' fleeting mention is given to "Reds" in an off-hand comment.

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* Not made during the Cold War, and set much earlier but mentionable: the Creator/DonBluth animated film ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' ignores the politics of the Bolshevik Uprising (merging the February and October Revolutions into one event as well) and gives Rasputin a HistoricalVillainUpgrade to turn him into an {{evil sorcerer}} who sold his soul to the devil for magic so he could kill the Romanovs.
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Romanovs. Exactly ''one'' fleeting mention is given to "Reds" in an off-hand comment.



* Swedish propaganda movies during WW2 are a special case. Since Sweden was neutral, ''all'' the countries involved in the actual war were potential enemies. It doesn't help warning people against the godless communists or beastly Huns if the spy or saboteur they actually have a chance of detecting works for the Western allies. Hence, spies, saboteurs etc. are just nefariously ''foreign'', their allegiance is never spelled out, and they are given vaguely Mitteleuropean names (since people from any of the forces involved could be named such).



* A post UsefulNotes/ColdWar example (in-universe as well as in RealLife): In ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' it is revealed that one of the participants of WorldWarIII (from 2026 to 2053), and apparently as an enemy to the United States, was something called the Eastern Coalition (which in early scripts was "China"-they decided this would be a bad idea, however).
* In ''Mr. Moto's Last Warning'' (1939), the enemy country was never identified; it ended with an UnReveal.



* In 1940, as Nazi troops marched across Europe and the U.S. remained (officially) neutral, MGM released ''The Mortal Storm''. The movie had an explicitly anti-Nazi message, but MGM tried to mitigate the damage a bit by only once identifying Germany as the setting and referring to the presumably Jewish characters only as "non-Aryans". The Nazi regime was offended anyway and responded by banning all MGM films in Germany.
* The 1938 film ''Blockade'' is set in the then-ongoing UsefulNotes/SpanishCivilWar. It carefully avoids naming either side so as to not specify which side it's taking. Even the uniforms are made to look ambiguous. Being a Communist Party member and later one of the [[UsefulNotes/TheHollywoodBlacklist Hollywood Ten]], screenwriter John Howard Lawson obviously favored the Spanish Republicans, but the studio wouldn't let him make it explicit. Despite this, the film was banned in fascist countries and condemned by the Catholic Church.



* A training film for the [[WorldWarII OSS]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzR0kdGp5s "Undercover"]] (directed by John Ford) has the characters (two undercover agents [[RightWayWrongWayPair showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to perform said operations]]; and their handlers) using "[[InsistentTerminology Enemy Area]]" to describe the fictional country they have been assigned to (which quite blatantly seems to be Germany).

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* A training film for the [[WorldWarII OSS]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzR0kdGp5s "Undercover"]] (directed by John Ford) has the characters (two undercover agents [[RightWayWrongWayPair showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to perform said operations]]; and their handlers) using "[[InsistentTerminology Enemy Area]]" to describe the fictional country they have been assigned to (which quite blatantly seems to be Germany).



* Creator/JulesVerne originally intended Captain Nemo to be a deposed Polish prince, fighting a guerrilla war against the Imperial Russians in ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'', but his publisher convinced him to change Nemo to an unnamed nationality and his enemy to one flying no flag on their ships. Verne's books sold very well in Russia and his publisher didn't want that to change.
** Canonically, Nemo later became Indian with a hate-on for the English, [[ValuesDissonance ensuring the French audience's sympathy.]]



* A non-Russian example: The vaguely-Asian invading power in ''TheTomorrowSeries'' is never identified, and indeed [[http://www.rsimpson.id.au/books/tomorrow/explore/enemy.html no nation]] could possibly fit all the criteria for the invaders. This was an intentional decision by the author, who wanted to focus on the story and characters and didn't want nationalists to use the books for their own ends.



* The first season of ''[[Series/TwentyFour 24]]'' featured a Serbian mafia/military family called the Drazens as the villains. Although they spoke Serbian on screen, they were often referred to being from the "Balkans" instead of Yugoslavia.
** Jack did at one point refer to Victor Drazen as having been Slobodan Milosevic's "shadow."
** The second season had diplomats and baddies from an unknown Arabic nation, which was only referred to as "a Middle Eastern state" by the characters.
** And the fifth season featured villains who, despite clearly being Russian separatists and having the assassination of the Russian President among their objectives, were referred to being from "Central Asia".



* There was something like that in the former USSR-we had some generic imperialists instead of the US.
** To be more specific, the enemies are greedy imperialists who oppress <insert country> and deny its people free university education and healthcare. The later being illustrated by a dying old grandfather and his beautiful <insert a desperate relative> who is pleading for the authorities to help, but being turned down because she has no money. Oh, and she is probably black, because we all know that greedy imperialists are racists. All the fun times we had!
** The Americans were known for [[NotSoDifferent using a similar tactic]], with a generic [[WarsawPact WP]] invasion coming from a country known as [[BilingualBonus Krasnovia]]/[[RedsWithRockets Krasnova]]/[[IncrediblyLamePun Krasnoya]]


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!!Examples in which the unnamed country is not implied to be communist:

[[AC:EasternEuropeanAnimation]]
* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETJt_zbnKk This]] Soviet cartoon is set in "Some Land". "Some Land" includes a place named "Fifth Avenue", GratuitousEnglish writing, and a legislative body called "the Senate". Gee, I wonder what country that's supposed to be. (It's also amusing to note that in 1963, the Soviet perception of American culture was apparently [[TwoDecadesBehind stuck in the 1920s]].)

[[AC:Films -- Live-Action]]
* A post UsefulNotes/ColdWar example (in-universe as well as in RealLife): In ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' it is revealed that one of the participants of WorldWarIII (from 2026 to 2053), and apparently as an enemy to the United States, was something called the Eastern Coalition (which in early scripts was "China"-they decided this would be a bad idea, however).
* Swedish propaganda movies during WW2 are a special case. Since Sweden was neutral, ''all'' the countries involved in the actual war were potential enemies. It doesn't help warning people against the godless communists or beastly Huns if the spy or saboteur they actually have a chance of detecting works for the Western allies. Hence, spies, saboteurs etc. are just nefariously ''foreign'', their allegiance is never spelled out, and they are given vaguely Mitteleuropean names (since people from any of the forces involved could be named such).
* In ''Mr. Moto's Last Warning'' (1939), the enemy country was never identified; it ended with an UnReveal.
* In 1940, as Nazi troops marched across Europe and the U.S. remained (officially) neutral, MGM released ''The Mortal Storm''. The movie had an explicitly anti-Nazi message, but MGM tried to mitigate the damage a bit by only once identifying Germany as the setting and referring to the presumably Jewish characters only as "non-Aryans". The Nazi regime was offended anyway and responded by banning all MGM films in Germany.
* The 1938 film ''Blockade'' is set in the then-ongoing UsefulNotes/SpanishCivilWar. It carefully avoids naming either side so as to not specify which side it's taking. Even the uniforms are made to look ambiguous. Being a Communist Party member and later one of the [[UsefulNotes/TheHollywoodBlacklist Hollywood Ten]], screenwriter John Howard Lawson obviously favored the Spanish Republicans, but the studio wouldn't let him make it explicit. Despite this, the film was banned in fascist countries and condemned by the Catholic Church.
* A training film for the [[WorldWarII OSS]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzR0kdGp5s "Undercover"]] (directed by John Ford) has the characters (two undercover agents [[RightWayWrongWayPair showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to perform said operations]]; and their handlers) using "[[InsistentTerminology Enemy Area]]" to describe the fictional country they have been assigned to (which quite blatantly seems to be Germany).

[[AC:{{Literature}}]]
* Creator/JulesVerne originally intended Captain Nemo to be a deposed Polish prince, fighting a guerrilla war against the Imperial Russians in ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'', but his publisher convinced him to change Nemo to an unnamed nationality and his enemy to one flying no flag on their ships. Verne's books sold very well in Russia and his publisher didn't want that to change.
** Canonically, Nemo later became Indian with a hate-on for the English, [[ValuesDissonance ensuring the French audience's sympathy.]]
* A non-Russian example: The vaguely-Asian invading power in ''TheTomorrowSeries'' is never identified, and indeed [[http://www.rsimpson.id.au/books/tomorrow/explore/enemy.html no nation]] could possibly fit all the criteria for the invaders. This was an intentional decision by the author, who wanted to focus on the story and characters and didn't want nationalists to use the books for their own ends.

[[AC:LiveActionTV]]
* The first season of ''[[Series/TwentyFour 24]]'' featured a Serbian mafia/military family called the Drazens as the villains. Although they spoke Serbian on screen, they were often referred to being from the "Balkans" instead of Yugoslavia.
** Jack did at one point refer to Victor Drazen as having been Slobodan Milosevic's "shadow."
** The second season had diplomats and baddies from an unknown Arabic nation, which was only referred to as "a Middle Eastern state" by the characters.
** And the fifth season featured villains who, despite clearly being Russian separatists and having the assassination of the Russian President among their objectives, were referred to being from "Central Asia".

[[AC:RealLife]]
* There was something like that in the former USSR-we had some generic imperialists instead of the US.
** To be more specific, the enemies are greedy imperialists who oppress <insert country> and deny its people free university education and healthcare. The later being illustrated by a dying old grandfather and his beautiful <insert a desperate relative> who is pleading for the authorities to help, but being turned down because she has no money. Oh, and she is probably black, because we all know that greedy imperialists are racists. All the fun times we had!
** The Americans were known for [[NotSoDifferent using a similar tactic]], with a generic [[WarsawPact WP]] invasion coming from a country known as [[BilingualBonus Krasnovia]]/[[RedsWithRockets Krasnova]]/[[IncrediblyLamePun Krasnoya]]
3rd May '16 8:39:14 AM marcoasalazarm
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* A training film for the [[WorldWarII OSS]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzR0kdGp5s "Undercover"]] (directed by John Ford) has the characters (two undercover agents showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to perform said operations; and their handlers) using "[[InsistentTerminology Enemy Area]]" to describe the fictional country they have been assigned to (which quite blatantly seems to be Germany).

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* A training film for the [[WorldWarII OSS]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzR0kdGp5s "Undercover"]] (directed by John Ford) has the characters (two undercover agents [[RightWayWrongWayPair showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to perform said operations; operations]]; and their handlers) using "[[InsistentTerminology Enemy Area]]" to describe the fictional country they have been assigned to (which quite blatantly seems to be Germany).
28th Apr '16 10:32:06 AM marcoasalazarm
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* A training film for the [[WorldWarII OSS]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVzR0kdGp5s "Undercover"]] (directed by John Ford) has the characters (two undercover agents showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to perform said operations; and their handlers) using "[[InsistentTerminology Enemy Area]]" to describe the fictional country they have been assigned to (which quite blatantly seems to be Germany).
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