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20th Jan '17 2:56:59 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': The North is colder, harsher, and less populated than the south. The lands of the wildlings beyond the Wall are even worse, and beyond that is the wintry abode of the White Walkers: the Lands of Always Winter.
18th Jan '17 6:56:19 AM Morgenthaler
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** He also used the trope for other stories, such as ''The Ice Demon'' and ''The Light from the Pole'', and there are plenty of nasty things to be found North in his "Hyperborean Cycle". Other contributions to the CthulhuMythos such as Creator/HPLovecraft's ghost-written Ran-Tegoth, August Derleth's Ithaqua, and Lin Carter's Aphoom-Zhah make the Arctic Circle and especially Greenland home to more {{Eldritch Abomination}}s than anywhere else on Earth, and potentially [[DeathWorld even deadlier than]] [[MysteriousAntarctica Mythos Antarctica]].

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** He also used the trope for other stories, such as ''The Ice Demon'' and ''The Light from the Pole'', and there are plenty of nasty things to be found North in his "Hyperborean Cycle". Other contributions to the CthulhuMythos Franchise/CthulhuMythos such as Creator/HPLovecraft's ghost-written Ran-Tegoth, August Derleth's Ithaqua, and Lin Carter's Aphoom-Zhah make the Arctic Circle and especially Greenland home to more {{Eldritch Abomination}}s than anywhere else on Earth, and potentially [[DeathWorld even deadlier than]] [[MysteriousAntarctica Mythos Antarctica]].
11th Jan '17 2:40:39 PM LordInsane
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** The northernmost continent in the series' lore is Atmora, and it fit the trope, at least historically. It very likely ''did'' look a lot like this trope to the Mer during the early days of Man-Mer hostility in Skyrim, as Atmoran Men kept emigrating over and supplementing the Mannish manpower). However, it is now ''too'' cold: the last reliable reports indicate that it is frozen over and uninhabited.

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** The northernmost continent in the series' lore is Atmora, and it fit the trope, at least historically. It very likely ''did'' look a lot like this trope to the Mer during the early days of Man-Mer hostility in Skyrim, as Atmoran Men kept emigrating over and supplementing the Mannish manpower).manpower. However, it is now ''too'' cold: the last reliable reports indicate that it is frozen over and uninhabited.
23rd Dec '16 8:42:13 AM BeerBaron
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'' has Solthsheim, and to a lesser extent, Sheogorad.

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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'' ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'':
** The northernmost continent in the series' lore is Atmora, and it fit the trope, at least historically. It very likely ''did'' look a lot like this trope to the Mer during the early days of Man-Mer hostility in Skyrim, as Atmoran Men kept emigrating over and supplementing the Mannish manpower). However, it is now ''too'' cold: the last reliable reports indicate that it is frozen over and uninhabited.
** ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'':
*** The Sheogorad region is the northernmost part of Vvardenfell, and short of [[{{Mordor}} Red Mountain]] itself, is one of the most untamed and lawless regions in the land. It
has Solthsheim, only one major settlement (Dagon Fel, a small Imperial settlement populated mostly by Nords,) but has many bandit caves, ancestral tombs, and to necromancer lairs dotting its scattered islands.
*** The ''Bloodmoon'' expansion adds the island of Solstheim,
a lesser extent, Sheogorad.mostly frozen and barren hunk of rock inhabited only by the Skaal, treacherous Reiklings, and lots of dangerous wildlife. Only after ebony deposits were discovered there did the Empire start caring about it. The soldiers stationed at Fort Frostmoth and the miners at Raven Rock frequently point out just how miserable it is there.



** All this said, the ''actual'' northern-most realm (the continent of Atmora) does not appear to fit this trope (at least, not anymore. It very likely ''did'' look a lot like this trope to the Mer during the early days of Man-Mer hostility in Skyrim, as Atmoran Men kept emigrating over and supplementing the Mannish manpower). It is ''too'' cold: the last reliable reports indicate that it is frozen over and uninhabited.
20th Dec '16 6:58:49 PM Theriocephalus
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* In George R. R. Martin's ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', the North is a vast, sparsely populated region of Westeros where life is hard. The culture of the North is plainer and less decadent than in the richer, more sophisticated South. The farther north you go, the harsher. Ironically enough the rulers of the North, the Starks of Winterfell, are among the most straightforwardly-heroic characters in the series. However this is contrasted with the Boltons of the [[IDontLikeTheSoundOfThatPlace Dreadfort]], who are known for their practise of [[FlayingAlive flaying]] their enemies. [[spoiler:Things become worse when Roose Bolton murders Robb Stark and takes control of the North, Roose's [[BastardBastard bastard]] [[{{Sadist}} Ramsay Snow/Bolton]] goes around committing atrocities.]]
** The Wall protects the people of the North from attacks of savage wildling raiders who reside beyond it. Their are even giants residing beyond the Wall. Wildlings are themselves plagued by [[OurWightsAreDifferent frozen demons]] called Others as well as animated corpses of their victims, called wights (when the series begins the Others haven't been seen in thousands of years, but are waking up again). The northernmost land is called the Land of Always Winter. It is a dark and mysterious place, and so unknown the Northernmost part doesn't even appear on the map.

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* In George R. R. Martin's ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', the North is a vast, sparsely populated region of Westeros where life is hard. hard, and the farther north you go, the harsher it gets. Westeros' years-long winters are felt to a greater degree than in the south, and months of howling blizzards and massive fields of snowbanks that can lock cities and castles shut and grind the march of armies to a halt are considered the ''prelude'' to the real winter. The culture of the North is plainer and less decadent than in the richer, more sophisticated South. The farther north you go, South, and preserves the harsher.culture and religion of the ancient First Men and their nameless gods to a greater degree. Ironically enough the rulers of the North, the Starks of Winterfell, are among the most straightforwardly-heroic characters in the series. However this is contrasted with the Boltons of the [[IDontLikeTheSoundOfThatPlace Dreadfort]], who are known for their practise of [[FlayingAlive flaying]] their enemies. [[spoiler:Things become worse when Roose Bolton murders Robb Stark and takes control of the North, Roose's [[BastardBastard bastard]] [[{{Sadist}} Ramsay Snow/Bolton]] goes around committing atrocities.]]
** The Wall protects the people of the North from attacks of savage wildling raiders who reside beyond it. it amidst endless snow-bound forests and frozen mountains. Their are even giants residing living beyond the Wall. Wildlings are themselves plagued by [[OurWightsAreDifferent frozen demons]] called Others as well as animated corpses of their victims, called wights (when the series begins the Others haven't been seen in thousands of years, but are waking up again). The northernmost land is called the Land of Always Winter. It is a dark and mysterious place, and so unknown the Northernmost part doesn't even appear on the map.
6th Dec '16 3:47:16 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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The TropeNamer appears to be [[Music/TheKLF the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu]] song "It's Grim Up North", which contains a [[ListingCities list of cities]] in the north of England. That said, this trope is not to be confused with OopNorth -- although they can overlap, seeing as Northern England isn't exactly a barrel of laughs either (but at least it's not Luton).

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The TropeNamer appears to be [[Music/TheKLF the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu]] song "It's Grim Up North", which contains a [[ListingCities list of cities]] in the north of England.Northern English cities]]. That said, this trope is not to be confused with OopNorth -- although they can overlap, seeing as Northern England isn't exactly a barrel of laughs either (but at least it's not Luton).



* In Creator/CSLewis's ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', Narnia was often at war with the evil giants that live in the Wild Waste Lands of the North. (Some of the Northern giants ''do'' seem friendly and civilized, [[ToServeMan until...]]) The north is also where the White Witch built up her power and where the Lady of the Green Kirtle lived and held Prince Rilian hostage. Interestingly, [[TheEmpire the Calormenes]] tend to describe ''Narnia'' as a "savage North" region, full of barbarians, monsters, and terrifying demonic lions.

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* In Creator/CSLewis's ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', Narnia was often at war with the evil giants that live in the Wild Waste Lands of the North. (Some of the Northern giants ''do'' seem friendly and civilized, [[ToServeMan until...]]) The north is also where the White Witch built up her power and where the Lady of the Green Kirtle lived and held Prince Rilian hostage. Interestingly, [[TheEmpire the Calormenes]] in TheSavageSouth tend to describe ''Narnia'' as a "savage North" region, sinister northern region full of barbarians, monsters, and terrifying demonic lions.
6th Dec '16 3:45:34 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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The TropeNamer appears to be [[Music/TheKLF the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu]] song "It's Grim Up North", which contains a [[ListingCities list of cities]] in the north of England. Nonetheless, this trope is not to be confused with OopNorth -- although they can overlap, seeing as Northern England isn't exactly a barrel of laughs either (but at least it's not Luton).

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The TropeNamer appears to be [[Music/TheKLF the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu]] song "It's Grim Up North", which contains a [[ListingCities list of cities]] in the north of England. Nonetheless, That said, this trope is not to be confused with OopNorth -- although they can overlap, seeing as Northern England isn't exactly a barrel of laughs either (but at least it's not Luton).



* ''Literature/HisDarkMaterials'':
** The baddies' fortress of Bolvangar in the first book, ''Northern Lights''.
** Although they are just intruders there; the land actually belongs to the more or less good Panserbjørner ([[BearsAreBadNews armoured polar bears!]]) and witches.
*** Calling them good would be wrong. The Panserbjore are definitely neutral, often serving as mercenaries, with their king happening to be friendly with the protagonists. The witches are split: they have several queens, and some fight for the good guys, some fight for the bad guys. The "bad witches" just don't get much screen time.

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* ''Literature/HisDarkMaterials'':
** The baddies' fortress of Bolvangar in
''Literature/HisDarkMaterials'' subverts this. In the first book, titled ''Northern Lights''.
** Although they are just intruders there;
Lights'' (or ''The Golden Compass'' in some areas), the land actually CorruptChurch sets up camp in a northern fortress called Bolvangar[[note]]which means "[[IDontLikeTheSoundOfThatPlace Fields of Evil]]"[[/note]], but they're only intruding on territory that belongs to the more or less good Panserbjørner ([[BearsAreBadNews armoured {{witch|Species}}es (many of whom are on the heroes' side) and the panserbjørne (a neutral faction of [[BearsAreBadNews armored polar bears!]]) and witches.
*** Calling them good would be wrong. The Panserbjore are definitely neutral, often serving as mercenaries, with their king happening to be friendly with the protagonists. The witches are split: they have several queens, and some fight for the good guys, some fight for the bad guys. The "bad witches" just don't get much screen time.
bears]]).



* In Creator/CSLewis's ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', Narnia was often at war with the evil giants that live in the Wild Waste Lands of the North. It was also in the north where the White Witch built up her power and where the Lady of the Green Kirtle lived and held Prince Rilian hostage.
** Interestingly, the Calormenes tend to describe ''Narnia'' as a "savage North" region, full of barbarians, monsters, and terrifying demonic lions.
** Some of the Northern giants ''do'' seem friendly and civilized, [[ImAHumanitarian until...]]

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* In Creator/CSLewis's ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', Narnia was often at war with the evil giants that live in the Wild Waste Lands of the North. It was also in (Some of the Northern giants ''do'' seem friendly and civilized, [[ToServeMan until...]]) The north is also where the White Witch built up her power and where the Lady of the Green Kirtle lived and held Prince Rilian hostage.
**
hostage. Interestingly, [[TheEmpire the Calormenes Calormenes]] tend to describe ''Narnia'' as a "savage North" region, full of barbarians, monsters, and terrifying demonic lions.
** Some of the Northern giants ''do'' seem friendly and civilized, [[ImAHumanitarian until...]]
lions.
6th Dec '16 3:36:24 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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Whenever TheDarkLord rises to gather his armies and bring destruction upon the lands of men, elves, dwarves and the race of funny midgets, he always, always, ''always'' does this from a stronghold built in the most [[EvilIsDeathlyCold frigid]], dark, frigid, remote, [[RuleOfThree frigid]], ''[[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment cold]]'', benighted corner of the wasteland that in most cases is simply called "the North".

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Whenever TheDarkLord rises to gather his armies and bring destruction upon the lands of men, elves, dwarves dwarves, and the race of funny midgets, LittlePeople, he always, always, ''always'' does this from a stronghold built in the most [[EvilIsDeathlyCold frigid]], dark, frigid, remote, [[RuleOfThree frigid]], ''[[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment cold]]'', benighted corner of the wasteland that in most cases is simply called "the North".



SantaClaus is unrelated... [[BadSanta usually]]. See also MysteriousAntarctica. Grim Up North is the frigid sister trope of TheSavageSouth. Strictly, this trope requires a warmer region for the North to contrast with; if an entire planet is frozen it's an [[Main/SingleBiomePlanet Ice World]]. Might also be a case of NorthIsColdSouthIsHot. Contrast FireAndBrimstoneHell where the forces of Evil inhabit a land or dimension of extremely hot temperatures.

The TropeNamer appears to be [[TheKLF the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu]] song "It's Grim Up North", which contains a [[ListingCities list of cities]] in the [[OopNorth north of England]].

Not to be confused with OopNorth, which is, confusingly, the same North from which the Trope Name originates, though it's not exactly a barrel of laughs over there, either (but at least it's not Luton).

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SantaClaus is unrelated... [[BadSanta usually]]. See also MysteriousAntarctica. Grim Up North is the frigid sister trope of TheSavageSouth. Strictly, this trope requires a warmer region for the North to contrast with; if an entire planet is frozen frozen, it's an [[Main/SingleBiomePlanet Ice World]]. Might also be a case of NorthIsColdSouthIsHot. Contrast FireAndBrimstoneHell where the forces of Evil inhabit a land or dimension of extremely hot temperatures.

The TropeNamer appears to be [[TheKLF [[Music/TheKLF the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu]] song "It's Grim Up North", which contains a [[ListingCities list of cities]] in the [[OopNorth north of England]].

Not
England. Nonetheless, this trope is not to be confused with OopNorth, which is, confusingly, the same North from which the Trope Name originates, though it's not OopNorth -- although they can overlap, seeing as Northern England isn't exactly a barrel of laughs over there, either (but at least it's not Luton).
28th Nov '16 6:13:00 PM nombretomado
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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's "Literature/ThePhoenixOnTheSword" this is how ConanTheBarbarian describes his native Cimmeria:

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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's "Literature/ThePhoenixOnTheSword" this is how ConanTheBarbarian Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian describes his native Cimmeria:
20th Nov '16 8:31:23 AM Morgenthaler
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* Denagoth, a suitably-grim northern realm with a spooky history and imperialistic intentions, was added to the ''{{Mystara}}'' setting purely to play this trope as straight as possible.

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* Denagoth, a suitably-grim northern realm with a spooky history and imperialistic intentions, was added to the ''{{Mystara}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Mystara}}'' setting purely to play this trope as straight as possible.
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