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25th Jun '16 9:09:59 PM nombretomado
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* Jaheira from the ''BaldursGate'' sequels, where it otherwise looks like she's not living up (down?) to her obligatory druidic TrueNeutral [[CharacterAlignment alignment]], is still a blunt know-it-all with no patience for people who don't happen to see things her way or who happen to annoy her through no fault of their own.
** [[spoiler: Balthazar from ''Throne of Bhaal'']] may the TokenGoodTeammate to [[spoiler: the Five, who's plotting their downfall,]] but he still seizes control of a city and rules it with an iron fist to do so, while not lifting a finger to stop the mercenaries he hired from bullying the townsfolk.

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Jaheira from the ''BaldursGate'' sequels, where it otherwise looks like she's not living up (down?) to her obligatory druidic TrueNeutral [[CharacterAlignment alignment]], is still a blunt know-it-all with no patience for people who don't happen to see things her way or who happen to annoy her through no fault of their own.
** [[spoiler: Balthazar from ''Throne ''[[VideoGame/BaldursGateIIThroneOfBhaal Throne of Bhaal'']] Bhaal]]'']] may the TokenGoodTeammate to [[spoiler: the Five, who's plotting their downfall,]] but he still seizes control of a city and rules it with an iron fist to do so, while not lifting a finger to stop the mercenaries he hired from bullying the townsfolk.
11th Jun '16 8:12:17 PM nombretomado
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* Jun Kazama from {{Tekken}} is generally portrayed as pure, however the second Tag game and the animated movie shows she's NotGoodWithPeople. Case in point, Tag 2 allows a trick to select win poses, one being a positive one, a high five, a fist bump, ect. Even with someone who Jun should like she's pretty aloof. It also helps that she's [[OneWingedAngel Unknown,]], who does something most find rather uncomfortable should you lose to her.

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* Jun Kazama from {{Tekken}} ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'' is generally portrayed as pure, however the second Tag game and the animated movie shows she's NotGoodWithPeople. Case in point, Tag 2 allows a trick to select win poses, one being a positive one, a high five, a fist bump, ect. Even with someone who Jun should like she's pretty aloof. It also helps that she's [[OneWingedAngel Unknown,]], who does something most find rather uncomfortable should you lose to her.
10th Jun '16 4:48:57 PM LinTaylor
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* Reimu Hakurei of ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'', [[BossSubtitles Shrine Maiden of Paradise]], preserver of the Great Boundary, tasked with defending the denizens of Gensokyo from any threat. Also beats the ever-loving crap out of anyone in her way (including those who didn't have anything to do with what's happening) and has no tolerance for any disturbances, [[GreyAndWhiteMorality regardless of cause or motive]].

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' has its protagonist Reimu Hakurei of ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'', [[BossSubtitles Shrine Maiden of Paradise]], preserver of Hakurei, who is generally portrayed in official works as lazy, standoffish, greedy, and comically inept at her job as a shrine maiden. However, she's much better at her ''other'' job -- preserving Gensokyo's peace by protecting the Great Boundary, tasked with defending Boundary and resolving any Incidents[[note]]large-scale chaos or upheavals that threaten the denizens of Gensokyo from any threat. Also beats land[[/note]]. Even then, she has a tendency to beat the ever-loving crap out of anyone who gets in her way (including those who didn't have anything to do with what's happening) and has no tolerance for any disturbances, Incidents, [[GreyAndWhiteMorality regardless of cause or motive]].motive]].
** We also have Reimu's StealthMentor, Yukari Yakumo. She's one of the beings who helped create the Great Boundary and is dedicated to preserving Gensokyo, and though she usually leaves matters to Reimu she has been known to intervene in major Incidents. However, her trollish personality and habit of sleeping 12 hours a day are the least of her flaws. It's all but outright stated that she abducts humans from the Outside World so the {{Youkai}} will always have a [[ImAHumanitarian food supply]], and "preserving Gensokyo" includes ensuring that humans and Youkai remain in conflict simply because it's the natural order. And then there's ''Manga/TouhouBougetsushou'', where she [[TheChessmaster manipulates practically everyone in Gensokyo]] as part of [[BatmanGambit an incredibly complex gambit]], with the primary purpose being to [[ScrewYouElves flip the metaphorical bird at the Lunarians]].
3rd Jun '16 6:50:03 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Prowl gets this treatment a lot in the [[TheTransformersIDW IDW version of Transformers]]. He's an arrogant prick, a ManipulativeBastard, comes off as cold and unfeeling, seems to treat even people he professes to like as tools more than as comrades or friends, and sometimes [[IDidWhatIHadToDo does some morally-questionable things in the name of getting things done]]... but in the end of it all he's without a doubt a loyal Autobot dedicated to defeating the Decepticons, protecting the innocent, and reaching for the greater good overall.

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* Prowl gets this treatment a lot in the [[TheTransformersIDW [[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW IDW version of Transformers]]. He's an arrogant prick, a ManipulativeBastard, comes off as cold and unfeeling, seems to treat even people he professes to like as tools more than as comrades or friends, and sometimes [[IDidWhatIHadToDo does some morally-questionable things in the name of getting things done]]... but in the end of it all he's without a doubt a loyal Autobot dedicated to defeating the Decepticons, protecting the innocent, and reaching for the greater good overall.
9th May '16 9:29:11 PM Scorntex
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** Several Autobots come off this way in the course of the IDW run of comics. Repugnus is underhanded, ruthless, argumentative, and more than willing to resort to violence, but he's an Autobot special operations agent who does jobs that those with more delicate morals could barely consider.

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** Several Autobots come off this way in the course of the IDW run of comics. Repugnus is underhanded, ruthless, argumentative, and more than willing to resort to violence, but he's an Autobot special operations agent all the same - just one who does jobs that those with more delicate morals could barely consider.



** The Dinobots. They're a rag-tag bunch of jerks who don't really like ''anyone'', and occasionally go off to do their own thing. None of them like Optimus. But they like Megatron and his lot even ''less''.
** The Wreckers probably count. Their first appearance involves them planning to lure several prominent Decepticons into a trap and kill them in any way they can, including harpoons or hammers to the head.



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* Slag, from the original G1 ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'', is incredibly mean and nasty, will even attack his own comrades if they irritate him . . . and an Autobot. No one is even sure why he is even an Autobot at all, though it is implied here and there (memory fails as to specifics) that it is loyalty to his Dinobot teammates that keeps him around.
** Hell, all the Dinobots with the exception of Swoop and Sludge. None of them really like Optimus Prime for starters. Grimlock himself would gladly [[TheStarscream pull a Starscream]] if he could get away with it.
** Cross-universal consensus on this is that the Dinobots consider Optimus "soft", which usually results in Prime demonstrating this trope [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority on Grimlock's head]]. That doesn't mean they consider a tyrannical dictatorship under Megatron or wanton murder to be good ideas.
** Similarly, there's the snobby, blunt, somewhat unhealthily violent Sunstreaker--he means well, being an Autobot, but is unpleasant and kind of a jerk to everyone, even his twin brother Sideswipe.
** Superion is the Autobot's first CombiningMecha, but most of the time he's shown as a violent, thundering titan, more unleashed than commanded. Yet he still very much aims to protect innocent life, given one of his lines is "No more, Bruticus! No more harm will come to the humans!"
** As noted on the Wiki/TFWiki itself: while he's charming and charismatic, we can't forget that he's a "Liar. Cheater. Compulsive gambler. Meet heroic Autobot Smokescreen, kids!"
** Primus, {{God}}-ancestor of all Cybertronians who is in the background of every subseries and universe, exhibits this quite well. His goal is to ensure that the multiverse is still here tomorrow, and will often make life quite difficult or unpleasant for mortals in the process if it is necessary for the greater good.
*** It should be noted that most continuities, including the first he was created in, Primus essentially created the entire Cybertronian race to serve as nothing more than cannon fodder against Unicron.

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* Slag, from the original G1 ''{{Transformers}}'', is incredibly mean and nasty, will even attack his own comrades if they irritate him . . . and an Autobot. No one is even sure why he is even an Autobot at all, though it is implied here and there (memory fails as to specifics) that it is loyalty to his Dinobot teammates that keeps him around.
** Hell, all the Dinobots with the exception of Swoop and Sludge. None of them really like Optimus Prime for starters. Grimlock himself would gladly [[TheStarscream pull a Starscream]] if he could get away with it.
** Cross-universal consensus on this is that the Dinobots consider Optimus "soft", which usually results in Prime demonstrating this trope [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority on Grimlock's head]]. That doesn't mean they consider a tyrannical dictatorship under Megatron or wanton murder to be good ideas.
** Similarly, there's the snobby, blunt, somewhat unhealthily violent Sunstreaker--he means well, being an Autobot, but is unpleasant and kind of a jerk to everyone, even his twin brother Sideswipe.
** Superion is the Autobot's first CombiningMecha, but most of the time he's shown as a violent, thundering titan, more unleashed than commanded. Yet he still very much aims to protect innocent life, given one of his lines is "No more, Bruticus! No more harm will come to the humans!"
** As noted on the Wiki/TFWiki itself: while he's charming and charismatic, we can't forget that he's a "Liar. Cheater. Compulsive gambler. Meet heroic Autobot Smokescreen, kids!"



* Primus, {{God}}-ancestor of all Cybertronians in ''{{Transformers}}'' who is in the background of every subseries and universe, exhibits this quite well. His goal is to ensure that the multiverse is still here tomorrow, and will often make life quite difficult or unpleasant for mortals in the process if it is necessary for the greater good.
6th May '16 7:04:54 AM bificommander
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* The angels in ''Maxwell the Demon'' run a CelestialBureaucracy and, while working for good, are as dickish as the demons, if not worse.
-->'''Demon:''' Oh, sorry. Go on through. No hard feelings, ey?
-->'''Angel:''' [muttering] First against the wall [[CaughtUpInTheRapture when the Rapture comes]].
6th May '16 6:05:38 AM aye_amber
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* Zero from ''VideoGame/MegaManX''. He was GoodIsNotSoft for the first three games, but after [[MegaManX4 he has to kill Iris]], he goes through a HeroicBSOD and adapts a JerkassFacade.

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* Zero from ''VideoGame/MegaManX''. He was GoodIsNotSoft for the first three games, but after [[MegaManX4 [[VideoGame/MegaManX4 he has to kill Iris]], he goes through a HeroicBSOD and adapts a JerkassFacade.
5th May '16 3:25:48 AM G02
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* Hakumen from ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'': One of the six legendary heroes who stopped the Black Beast. Is a dick. Not a total one, though.

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* Hakumen from ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'': One of the six legendary heroes who stopped the Black Beast. Is a dick. Not a total one, though. [[He's an alternate timeline version of Jin, listed below. He's better than Jin in some ways and worse in others.]]
4th May '16 11:02:44 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Much to everyone's surprise, [[spoiler: '''Eva''']] turns out to be this in ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi''.

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* Much to everyone's surprise, [[spoiler: '''Eva''']] turns out to be this in ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi''.''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry''.
22nd Apr '16 10:50:18 AM Kakai
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