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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** When Sandor Clegane accuses her of being too soft for wanting to spare the peddler they just robbed, Arya beats the recovering man unconscious again.
** While having very compassionate side, Brienne demonstrates this when she kills a rapist northman with a vindictive GroinAttack.
** Although Jon Snow is a NiceGuy and compassionate, he has his moments of this. He shows up his lowborn fellow recruits with his superior combat skills until Tyrion sets him straight by pointing out Jon's privileged upbringing to him, which makes Jon realize how rough the other recruits had it, resulting in Jon teaching them how to fight properly and bonding them as [[TrueCompanions friends]]. In season 3, the wildling warg Orell fights with Jon in a battle to the death after Jon refuses to kill an old man. During this battle to the death, Jon kills Orell while telling Orell that he was right about him all along: he has always been [[FakeDefector loyal to the Night's Watch]]. He can also be somewhat brooding.
** After her attempted hostage exchange fails in an attempt to save her son and her son is murdered in front of her, Catelyn Stark slits her captive's throat as she said she would.
* Dr. Cox of ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' is willing to risk his career to save a patient's life, but is not an overwhelmingly friendly person and gladly insults a patient who has different opinions than him. Differing opinions, the woman he loves, his favored protégé, complete strangers... Cox is not a nice person, but see his reactions to losing friends and patients.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** When Sandor Clegane accuses
''Series/TwentyFour'': Jack Bauer only has the security of the United States in mind but he didn't get to [[TropeNamers name his own trope]] by [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique cordially asking his captives to reveal their secrets]].
* Captain [[TheCaptain Dylan Hunt]] of the ''[[Series/{{Andromeda}} Andromeda Ascendant]]''. Perfectly nice and agreeable guy and eternal optimist. He is also a seasoned military officer who has started a war, destroyed thousands of ships in one fell swoop, and if you screw him over, he will drag you down with him and let you experience the results first hand. "Right now, my bad day is your bad day, enjoy the view."
* [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Spike]] in ''Series/{{Angel}}''. During a brief stint at Angel's old job of helping the helpless, he stops a vampire from killing a woman. He then proceeds to insult the crap out of
her of for being too soft for wanting dumb enough to spare be walking down a dark alley dressed the peddler they just robbed, Arya beats way she is.
** Hell, Series/{{Angel}} himself was this trope from
the recovering man unconscious again.
beginning, especially as he got "older". A RetiredMonster who preferred to solve problems with non-violent tactics, he was also accepting of the fact that, sometimes, a ''lot'' of people must die before positive change will happen.
** While having This has been one of Wesley's defining characteristics since his early days on ''Series/{{Buffy|TheVampireSlayer}},'' although it becomes even more noticeable after he [[TookALevelInBadass takes a few levels in badass]]. When things are quiet, he can be perfectly amiable, but when there's something bigger at stake, he's more interested in getting results than being nice. Long-term solutions are much more important to Wesley than short-term politeness.
*** A prime example is the second season episode "Untouched", where Team Angel is attempting to help Bethany, a young woman who has telepathic powers she can't seem to control. Angel and Cordelia are both
very compassionate side, Brienne demonstrates this when she kills a rapist northman gentle with a vindictive GroinAttack.
** Although Jon Snow is a NiceGuy
Bethany, doing their best to help her keep calm and compassionate, he has his moments of this. He shows up his lowborn fellow recruits to make sure she feels safe with his superior combat skills until Tyrion sets him straight by pointing out Jon's privileged upbringing to him, which makes Jon realize how rough them. Wesley, on the other recruits had it, resulting in Jon teaching them how to fight properly and bonding them as [[TrueCompanions friends]]. In season 3, the wildling warg Orell fights with Jon in a battle to the death hand, after Jon refuses to kill an old man. During this battle to the death, Jon kills Orell while telling Orell figuring out that he was right about him all along: he has always been [[FakeDefector loyal to her powers were the Night's Watch]]. He can also be somewhat brooding.
** After
result of intense psychic trauma from her attempted hostage exchange fails in an attempt to save childhood, intentionally provokes her son and her son is murdered in front of her, Catelyn Stark slits her captive's throat as she said she would.
* Dr. Cox of ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' is willing to risk his career to save a patient's life, but is not an overwhelmingly friendly
by mentioning the person who hurt her. She's extremely upset by it, and gladly insults Angel and Cordelia both berate Wesley for being so harsh, but Angel later admits that it was a patient who has different opinions useful thing for them to know, because it allowed them to help Bethany in the long run.
** This KirkSummation gone bad, from "Conviction":
--->'''Hauser:''' You, your friends; you're conflicted, you're confused. [[GoodIsImpotent And that's why you're gonna lose]]. Because we possess the strongest thing in the world: conviction.\\
'''Angel:''' There ''is'' one thing stronger
than him. Differing opinions, conviction. One thing. Mercy. ''[kicks Hauser's shotgun, [[BoomHeadshot making him blow his own head off]]]''\\
'''Mook:''' What happened to mercy?!\\
'''Angel:''' You just saw
the woman he loves, his favored protégé, complete strangers... Cox is not a nice person, but see his reactions to losing friends and patients.last of it.



* Saul Tigh of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' is an unfriendly, grumpy bastard with an alcohol addiction and is the first to call out for the execution of a Cylon. He's also LawfulGood, fiercely loyal to his best friend and superior Bill Adama and is not afraid to sacrifice himself if necessary.
** Doc Cottle is a gruff old man who mouths off to people and absolutely ''refuses'' to put out his cigarette even when patients request it, but he's a good surgeon who takes his job very seriously regardless of who the patient is. He also has no problem pulling rank over both Admiral Adama ''and'' President Roslin when they're doing something needlessly risky that just happens to be a medical issue.



* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'': Sheldon. He is technically one of the good guys, but is also {{insufferable|Genius}}, [[EntitledBastard demanding]], {{narcissist}}ic, {{condescending|Compassion}}, and [[TheFriendNobodyLikes hated by almost everyone who knows him.]]



* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'': Sheldon. He is technically one of the good guys, but is also {{insufferable|Genius}}, [[EntitledBastard demanding]], {{narcissist}}ic, {{condescending|Compassion}}, and [[TheFriendNobodyLikes hated by almost everyone who knows him.]]
* As much as Dr. Series/{{House}} wants everyone to think he only does it for the puzzle, many episodes show in his behavior that he does genuinely care, and has on several occasions put himself in harm's way to save the patient's life. Sure, he may say he doesn't really care about people, but, well...[[ArcWords everybody lies]]. In spite of his genuine goodness, however, he regards everybody else he meets as an idiot, and [[InsufferableGenius tells them as much to their face]].
* The Fist Team from ''Series/DoubleTheFist'' are here to help. They want the world to be more activate and powerful, and helped save the woodland from loggers once. However, they have also murdered a number of innocent people, destroyed a lot of public property, and eventually conquered the world. Their hearts are in the right place...Well, Mephisto may enjoy his work a bit too much.
* Malcolm Reynolds of ''Series/{{Firefly}}''. If his damn conscience didn't keep dragging him towards good and let him get on with his life as an amoral rogue, he'd have singlehandedly won [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression the War of Alliance Aggression]]. (At least, that's the way he sees it nowadays.)
* Every one of the good guys on ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', but Castiel, the angel, deserves special mention. He might work for the greater good, but he and all of the other angels are warriors of God. He's a soldier. The angels aren't there to follow anyone around or perch on anyone's shoulders. Seriously, they're about as far away from [[Series/TouchedByAnAngel Roma Downey]] as you could possibly get.
** Sam and Dean, in different ways. Sam can be absolutely ''ruthless'' for the greater good and has a nasty streak of anger issues. Dean has no compunctions about [[PercussivePrevention forcibly stopping]] people before they screw things up and spent ten years "studying" under Alastair as a torturer in Hell. He's still got the skills he learned there and has put them to "good" use on occasion.
* In ''Series/DoctorWho'' the Doctor is often sharp and blunt with people and has been known to rub people the wrong way at times. When the Abzorbaloff in "Love and Monsters" accuses the Doctor of being "sweet" and "passionate" the Doctor agrees. However, he also adds "...don't ever mistake that for nice". (However, this rebuttal was somewhat part of a bluff.) The Doctor doesn't entirely fit this mold all the time, but he has been known to, especially in his first, sixth, ninth and twelfth incarnations.

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* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'': Sheldon. He Hank Schrader from ''Series/BreakingBad''. He's a wisecracking jerk, but also an exceptional agent who deals with extremely dangerous criminals.
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'':
** [[LovableAlphaBitch Cordelia Chase]] on ''Buffy'' (and to a lesser degree on ''Series/{{Angel}}'')
is technically selfish, abrasive, and, when not being ''intentionally'' rude, is still staggeringly tactless. On the other hand, when it comes to fighting the bad guys, she's as brave as anyone else, loyal, and brutally honest.
--->"[[BrutalHonesty Tact is just not saying true stuff]]."
** Also, Giles. Despite how he acted in the first few seasons, he's often
one of the most sarcastic and foul-mouthed people on the show (never picked up on by most due to him using mostly [[DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch British swears]]). Plus, he'll kill humans if he must, an opinion only shared by him until Season 8, as seen when he [[spoiler: smothers Ben, the human host the of the [[PhysicalGod Hellgoddess]] to death with a handkerchief in order to permanently destroy her]].
** Faith before her FaceHeelTurn.
** Wishverse Buffy certainly wasn't nice, or even helpful, for that matter, instead expecting people to point her in the direction of what needs killing.
* Michael Westen of ''Series/BurnNotice''. Always fights for
the good guys, the underdog, those with no other place to go -- and he and his cohorts have been damned ruthless while doing so, including Sam Axe [[spoiler:shooting a pistol into the ground as he listens to a rather hysterical stand-off between two Bad Guys of the Week. The next sounds you hear are some fatal gunshots. In case you felt bad for them, [[JerkassVictim they kidnapped a kid and were going to kill him]]]].
* Mark Fallon on the ''Series/{{Castle}}'' episodes "Setup" and "Countdown". He is a Homeland Security agent assigned to help track down a bomb. He is an [[KnightInSourArmor extremely dour]] sort
but he is also {{insufferable|Genius}}, [[EntitledBastard demanding]], {{narcissist}}ic, {{condescending|Compassion}}, dedicated to his job and [[TheFriendNobodyLikes hated by almost does it well. His dourness as it turns out comes from the fact that his wife was killed on 9-11.
* Deputy Chief Brenda Lee Johnson in ''Series/TheCloser'' will fight for her people and for the victims of crime, but will run rough-shod over anyone and
everyone (including her husband the FBI agent) to solve her case. In one notable episode she was after this rich young punk who knows him.has fled to Mexico after raping and killing his family's Mexican maid. Brenda threatens to charge his mother with aiding and abetting his escape unless he explained the entire thing to her. He cheerfully does so and then arrogantly tells Brenda she can't touch him. Brenda agrees that this is true, but then she points out that he is in a Mexican police station with two Mexican police officers who understand English standing behind him and he just confessed to raping and murdering a Mexican girl. They promptly arrest him for the rape and murder and drag him away to a life sentence in Mexican prison, stated to be far worse for him than the similar sentence in US prison. Even Brenda acknowledges that she may have gone a little too far to close this case.
** Several later seasons revolve around one case in which Johnson released a suspect who she could not convict, after making his gangster friends believe that he had sold them out. [[spoiler:They murder him. Brenda knew that would happen, and a wrongful death lawsuit nearly cripples her unit over the next season.
]]
* As much as Dr. Series/{{House}} wants everyone to think Det. Scotty Valens from ''Series/ColdCase'' would certainly justify. Although he only does it for was originally rougher in the puzzle, many episodes show in his behavior that earlier episodes, he does genuinely care, and has on several occasions put himself in harm's way to save the patient's life. Sure, he may say he doesn't really care still had plenty of JerkAss tendencies about people, but, well...[[ArcWords everybody lies]]. In him, such as having a HairTriggerTemper, not being afraid of resorting to violence when called for it, being confrontational with suspects--even the ''innocent'' ones--and mocking of some victims and their loved ones (one episode even had him snickering at the mere thought of a ''dead, overweight cold case victim'' being involved with a handsome man who had recently committed suicide over her).
** Det. Nick Vera on occasion, as well. Aside from also not being above using violence towards/bullying suspects and witnesses alike, he also becomes involved with some of the "hotter" female suspects (in
spite of how unethical it is), cheats on his genuine goodness, however, he regards everybody else he meets as an idiot, wife on numerous (who then leaves him midway through season 3) and [[InsufferableGenius tells them as much to their face]].
* The Fist Team from ''Series/DoubleTheFist'' are here to help. They want the world to be more activate and powerful, and helped save the woodland from loggers once. However, they have also murdered a number of innocent people, destroyed a lot of public property, and eventually conquered the world. Their hearts are in the right place...Well, Mephisto may enjoy his work a bit too much.
* Malcolm Reynolds of ''Series/{{Firefly}}''. If his damn conscience didn't keep dragging him towards good and let him get on with his life as an amoral rogue, he'd have singlehandedly won [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression the War of Alliance Aggression]]. (At least, that's the way he sees it nowadays.)
* Every one of the good guys on ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', but Castiel, the angel, deserves special mention. He might work
comes off for the greater good, most part as a boorish, borderline misogynistic JerkAss who at one point wrote off a bunch of hearing-impaired students who were using sign language to communicate as "fighting" with each other and gossiping about him. Even the events of "Flashover" in which a man he wrongfully accused of murdering his children is later killed in prison that causes him to go into a downward spiral comes off as LaserGuidedKarma rather then paint him in any [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic sympathetic type of light.]]
* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'': Sergeant James Doakes is an anti-social JerkAss with a penchant for violence,
but he a damn fine cop and all a good person at the end of the other angels are warriors of God. He's a soldier. day.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
The angels aren't there to follow anyone around or perch on anyone's shoulders. Seriously, they're about as far away from [[Series/TouchedByAnAngel Roma Downey]] as you could possibly get.
** Sam and Dean, in different ways. Sam can be absolutely ''ruthless'' for the greater good and has a nasty streak of anger issues. Dean has no compunctions about [[PercussivePrevention forcibly stopping]] people before they screw things up and spent ten years "studying" under Alastair as a torturer in Hell. He's still got the skills he learned there and has put them to "good" use on occasion.
* In ''Series/DoctorWho'' the
Doctor is often sharp and blunt with people people, and has been known to rub people the wrong way at times. When the Abzorbaloff in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E10LoveAndMonsters "Love and Monsters" & Monsters"]] accuses the Doctor of being "sweet" and "passionate" "passionate", the Doctor agrees. However, he also adds "...don't ever mistake that for nice". (However, this rebuttal was somewhat part of a bluff.) The Doctor doesn't entirely fit this mold all the time, but he has been known to, especially in his first, sixth, ninth and twelfth incarnations.



** Adam, then a new companion of the Ninth Doctor's, winds up in a future news station and gets tempted at the prospect of using future knowledge in his relative present to make money. This indirectly endangers the Doctor, who nonetheless escapes unharmed. The Doctor's punishment? [[spoiler:Taking Adam back to the present with a future device in his head that opens panels to his brain whenever someone snaps their fingers. He tells Adam, a child genius who's seen the future first-hand, that if he wants to escape being dissected by the government for his future tech, he has to live a dull life]].
** The Tenth Doctor also fits the bill. Although he was often cheerful, gregarious and friendly, he was equally often arrogant, dismissive and downright [[BewareTheNiceOnes ruthless]]. It wasn't as obvious in his first season, but [[spoiler:after the loss of Rose]], this trait kept popping up more and more frequently. He showed signs of mellowing out a bit by the time Donna came around, but after [[spoiler:having to wipe Donna's memory of their time together]], he starts skirting into MoralEventHorizon territory, particularly [[spoiler:in "The Waters of Mars"]]. The Family of Blood have a few things to say about this Doctor too. When he tried to run and hide from them, they thought he was a coward to be hunted down. Turns out, he was being ''kind''. [[spoiler:What he does to them when he finally decides to fight back is pure AndIMustScream.]]
** Eleven: Utterly {{Adorkable}} and possibly the [[TranquilFury scariest Doctor yet]] when you hit his BerserkButton.
** Twelve is ''so'' much this trope crossed with PragmaticHero that his character arc in Series 8 has him questioning whether he's actually good at all. [[spoiler: The answer is that he's an 'idiot' who's always leaning and helps out whenever he can. Ultimately, the moral decisions should be left up to the people he's helping.]]

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** Adam, then a new companion of the Ninth Doctor's, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E7TheLongGame winds up up]] in a future news station and gets tempted at the prospect of using future knowledge in his relative present to make money. This indirectly endangers the Doctor, who nonetheless escapes unharmed. The Doctor's punishment? [[spoiler:Taking Adam back to the present with a future device in his head that opens panels to his brain whenever someone snaps their fingers. He tells Adam, a child genius who's seen the future first-hand, that if he wants to escape being dissected by the government for his future tech, he has to live a dull life]].
** The Tenth Doctor also fits the bill. Although he was he's often cheerful, gregarious and friendly, he was he's equally often arrogant, dismissive and downright [[BewareTheNiceOnes ruthless]]. It wasn't as obvious in his first season, but [[spoiler:after the loss of Rose]], this trait kept popping up more and more frequently. He showed signs of mellowing out a bit by the time Donna came around, but after [[spoiler:having to wipe Donna's memory of their time together]], he starts skirting into MoralEventHorizon territory, particularly [[spoiler:in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars "The Waters of Mars"]]. Mars"]]]]. The Family of Blood have a few things to say about this Doctor him, too. When he tried to run and hide from them, they thought he was a coward to be hunted down. Turns out, he was being ''kind''. [[spoiler:What he does to them when he finally decides to fight back is pure AndIMustScream.]]
** Eleven: Utterly {{Adorkable}} {{Adorkable}}, and possibly the [[TranquilFury scariest Doctor yet]] when you hit his BerserkButton.
** Twelve is ''so'' much this trope crossed with PragmaticHero that his character arc in Series 8 has him questioning whether he's actually good at all. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The answer is that he's an 'idiot' "idiot" who's always leaning and helps out whenever he can. Ultimately, the moral decisions should be left up to the people he's helping.]]



* Rodney [=McKay=] of ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' is about as rude, obnoxious, and anti-social as they come, but, despite his vocal cowardliness, he's one of the first to put his life on the line for the greater good, and is capable of truly awesome heroics whenever his internal "Chance of Impending Doom" gauge redlines.
** Also, there's Ronon Dex, who can be outright mean, is hard to get to know, and takes a long time for him to warm up to you enough to trust you as a friend. But when that time comes, he's a fierce fighter.
** To a lesser extent, O'Neill of ''Series/StargateSG1''. He's clearly far more comfortable with kicking evildoers' asses than making friends. [[TheConscience That's what Daniel was for]].

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* Rodney [=McKay=] The Fist Team from ''Series/DoubleTheFist'' are here to help. They want the world to be more activate and powerful, and helped save the woodland from loggers once. However, they have also murdered a number of ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' innocent people, destroyed a lot of public property, and eventually conquered the world. Their hearts are in the right place... Well, Mephisto may enjoy his work a bit too much.
* Malcolm Reynolds of ''Series/{{Firefly}}''. If his damn conscience didn't keep dragging him towards good and let him get on with his life as an amoral rogue, he'd have singlehandedly won [[TheWarOfEarthlyAggression the War of Alliance Aggression]]. (At least, that's the way he sees it nowadays.)
* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** When Sandor Clegane accuses her of being too soft for wanting to spare the peddler they just robbed, Arya beats the recovering man unconscious again.
** While having very compassionate side, Brienne demonstrates this when she kills a rapist northman with a vindictive GroinAttack.
** Although Jon Snow
is a NiceGuy and compassionate, he has his moments of this. He shows up his lowborn fellow recruits with his superior combat skills until Tyrion sets him straight by pointing out Jon's privileged upbringing to him, which makes Jon realize how rough the other recruits had it, resulting in Jon teaching them how to fight properly and bonding them as [[TrueCompanions friends]]. In season 3, the wildling warg Orell fights with Jon in a battle to the death after Jon refuses to kill an old man. During this battle to the death, Jon kills Orell while telling Orell that he was right about him all along: he has always been [[FakeDefector loyal to the Night's Watch]]. He can also be somewhat brooding.
** After her attempted hostage exchange fails in an attempt to save her son and her son is murdered in front of her, Catelyn Stark slits her captive's throat
as she said she would.
* As much as Dr. Series/{{House}} wants everyone to think he only does it for the puzzle, many episodes show in his behavior that he does genuinely care, and has on several occasions put himself in harm's way to save the patient's life. Sure, he may say he doesn't really care about people, but, well... [[ArcWords everybody lies]]. In spite of his genuine goodness, however, he regards everybody else he meets as an idiot, and [[InsufferableGenius tells them as much to their face]].
* DS Barbara Havers of ''Series/TheInspectorLynleyMysteries'' is without a doubt a truly ''good'' character. She's just... not nice. At all. This is thanks to StepfordSnarker tendencies and a complete inability to believe anything but the worst of anyone [[CharacterDevelopment until she's paired up with the eponymous]] [[DefrostingIceQueen Inspector Lynley]].
* Series/JessicaJones2015 does some pretty unpleasant things to get Kilgrave, and is rather
rude, obnoxious, sarcastic, and anti-social as they come, but, despite his vocal cowardliness, belligerent towards most people.
* Keisuke Nago follows this trope to the letter in ''Series/KamenRiderKiva'', to the point where ''all five'' reasons listed in the opening paragraphs that a person could experience this trope apply to him. He eventually mellows out, but it takes half the series to happen.
** [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Tsukasa Kadoya]] is similarly a massive jerk to everyone he meets, though he [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold swiftly softens]] because he has at least three {{Morality Pet}}s: [[{{Tsundere}} Natsumi]], [[IdiotHero Yuusuke]], and eventually an alternate universe version of [[Series/KamenRiderStronger Tackle]]. It's implied
he's one so jerkish because he feels resigned to his fate as the Destroyer of Worlds, something everyone except the aforementioned three keep telling him over and over.
** [[Series/KamenRiderKabuto Tendou Souji]] is an InsufferableGenius who has no problem showing people how much better he is than all of them. Like Tsukasa though, he has two MoralityPet in his sisters, Juka and [[spoiler: Hiyori]]. His friendship with [[IdiotHero Kagami]] also cause him to soften up a little and by the end
of the series, it's pretty clear he cares a lot about the people close to him.
** [[Series/KamenRiderGaim Roshuo]] may be the least evil of the Overlords, but his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment
first full appearance has him gruesomely murder a major character]], redirect {{Kill SAT}}s to put USA when they fired upon Zawame, and causing Helheim to invade the world ''en masse''. However, he gave said major character a chance to run, gave humanity a chance when confronted, and found the good in someone that TheQuisling left in his life care after she reminds him of his ''own'' MoralityPet that he lost long ago.
* Elliot Stabler in ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' can be a JerkWithAHeartOfGold- but he enforces the law and is
on the line side of good.
** Well, he enforces criminal law, but tends to be a bit more flexible with the constitutional rights of defendants, and has a nasty habit of injuring suspects. A good guy to have fighting for your interests, but not the guy you want investigating you if you're innocent. He'll get to the right answer, but it'll be a bumpy ride.
* On ''Series/{{Leverage}}'', Nate is this in spades, being able to manipulate others at will without concern over their well being apart from helping people. This is also true
for the greater rest of the team in many ways, though all of them are more kind than Nate, who is generally seen as a bastard by most. He also has IntelligenceEqualsIsolation as well.
* Jacob on ''Series/{{Lost}}''. While he may work to good ends, he doesn't seem to care much about what happens to the people he uses along the way to achieve those ends. So much so that for much of the final season fans frequently speculated online that in the end Jacob would turn out to be the evil one and the Man In Black the good one.
* In ''Series/LostInOz'', Bellaridere's soldiers capture Alex and company, and she's essentially blackmailing them to fight the Witch. On the other hand, she does have the best interests of Oz in mind.
* Patrick Jane in ''Series/TheMentalist''. He catches killers, thieves, and rapists, but he is not nice, frequently pissing off other law enforcement officials just because he can. He'll also embarrass his teammates and blurt out secrets for no real reason. And he never, ever just comes out and says anything relevant if he can set up an elaborate way to trick it out of someone instead. He does have a soft spot for children, but that's it. It's often mentioned that if he wasn't so damn good at what he does, he'd have been fired or possibly killed by now.
* Parodied on ''Series/{{Monk}}''. Monk is so demanding of his dry cleaners that he is charged extra, and eventually banned from the place. Of course the murderer is a more courteous customer. Even after being informed of his deeds, the dry cleaner still thinks the murderer is a better customer than Monk.
* Gibbs in ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' is certainly
good, and is capable of truly awesome heroics whenever his internal "Chance of Impending Doom" gauge redlines.
** Also, there's Ronon Dex, who can
never would be outright mean, is hard to get to know, and takes a long time for him to warm up to you enough to trust you described as a friend. But when that time comes, he's a fierce fighter.
** To a lesser extent, O'Neill of ''Series/StargateSG1''.
nice. He's clearly far more comfortable with kicking evildoers' asses than making friends. [[TheConscience That's what Daniel was for]].rarely really mean, but sometimes he is. Reasons 3 and most of 4 apply (we're never given the impression he actually wants to be a nice guy).
* Summer Roberts from ''Series/TheOC'' can be bitchy, rude, and inconsiderate, but she also saves Christmas when needed.
%%* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': Reese, especially towards Fusco.



* Michael Westen of ''Series/BurnNotice''. Always fights for the good guys, the underdog, those with no other place to go--and he and his cohorts have been damned ruthless while doing so, including Sam Axe [[spoiler:shooting a pistol into the ground as he listens to a rather hysterical stand-off between two Bad Guys of the Week. The next sounds you hear are some fatal gunshots. In case you felt bad for them, [[JerkassVictim they kidnapped a kid and were going to kill him]]]].
* [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Spike]] in ''Series/{{Angel}}''. During a brief stint at Angel's old job of helping the helpless, he stops a vampire from killing a woman. He then proceeds to insult the crap out of her for being dumb enough to be walking down a dark alley dressed the way she is.
** Hell, Series/{{Angel}} himself was this trope from the beginning, especially as he got "older". A RetiredMonster who preferred to solve problems with non-violent tactics, he was also accepting of the fact that, sometimes, a ''lot'' of people must die before positive change will happen.
** This has been one of Wesley's defining characteristics since his early days on ''Series/{{Buffy|TheVampireSlayer}},'' although it becomes even more noticeable after he [[TookALevelInBadass takes a few levels in badass]]. When things are quiet, he can be perfectly amiable, but when there's something bigger at stake, he's more interested in getting results than being nice. Long-term solutions are much more important to Wesley than short-term politeness.
*** A prime example is the second season episode ''Untouched,'' where Team Angel is attempting to help Bethany, a young woman who has telepathic powers she can't seem to control. Angel and Cordelia are both very gentle with Bethany, doing their best to help her keep calm and to make sure she feels safe with them. Wesley, on the other hand, after figuring out that her powers were the result of intense psychic trauma from her childhood, intentionally provokes her by mentioning the person who hurt her. She's extremely upset by it, and Angel and Cordelia both berate Wesley for being so harsh, but Angel later admits that it was a useful thing for them to know, because it allowed them to help Bethany in the long run.
** This KirkSummation gone bad, from ''Conviction:''
--->'''Hauser:''' You, your friends; you're conflicted, you're confused. [[GoodIsImpotent And that's why you're gonna lose]]. Because we possess the strongest thing in the world: conviction.\\
'''Angel:''' There ''is'' one thing stronger than conviction. One thing. Mercy. ''[kicks Hauser's shotgun, [[BoomHeadshot making him blow his own head off]]]''\\
'''Mook:''' What happened to mercy?!\\
'''Angel:''' You just saw the last of it.
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'':
** [[LovableAlphaBitch Cordelia Chase]] on ''Buffy'' (and to a lesser degree on ''Series/{{Angel}}'') is selfish, abrasive, and, when not being ''intentionally'' rude, is still staggeringly tactless. On the other hand, when it comes to fighting the bad guys, she's as brave as anyone else, loyal, and brutally honest.
--->"[[BrutalHonesty Tact is just not saying true stuff]]."
** Also, Giles. Despite how he acted in the first few seasons, he's often one of the most sarcastic and foul-mouthed people on the show (never picked up on by most due to him using mostly [[DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch British swears]]). Plus, he'll kill humans if he must, an opinion only shared by him until Season 8, as seen when he [[spoiler: smothers Ben, the human host the of the [[PhysicalGod Hellgoddess]] to death with a handkerchief in order to permanently destroy her]].
** Faith before her FaceHeelTurn.
** Wishverse Buffy certainly wasn't nice, or even helpful, for that matter, instead expecting people to point her in the direction of what needs killing.
* Keisuke Nago follows this trope to the letter in ''Series/KamenRiderKiva'', to the point where ''all five'' reasons listed in the opening paragraphs that a person could experience this trope apply to him. He eventually mellows out, but it takes half the series to happen.
** [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Tsukasa Kadoya]] is similarly a massive jerk to everyone he meets, though he [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold swiftly softens]] because he has at least three {{Morality Pet}}s: [[{{Tsundere}} Natsumi]], [[IdiotHero Yuusuke]], and eventually an alternate universe version of [[Series/KamenRiderStronger Tackle]]. It's implied he's so jerkish because he feels resigned to his fate as the Destroyer of Worlds, something everyone except the aforementioned three keep telling him over and over.
** [[Series/KamenRiderKabuto Tendou Souji]] is an InsufferableGenius who has no problem showing people how much better he is than all of them. Like Tsukasa though, he has two MoralityPet in his sisters, Juka and [[spoiler: Hiyori]]. His friendship with [[IdiotHero Kagami]] also cause him to soften up a little and by the end of the series, it's pretty clear he cares a lot about the people close to him.
** [[Series/KamenRiderGaim Roshuo]] may be the least evil of the Overlords, but his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment first full appearance has him gruesomely murder a major character]], redirect {{Kill SAT}}s to USA when they fired upon Zawame, and causing Helheim to invade the world ''en masse''. However, he gave said major character a chance to run, gave humanity a chance when confronted, and found the good in someone that TheQuisling left in his care after she reminds him of his ''own'' MoralityPet that he lost long ago.
* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'': Sergeant James Doakes is an anti-social JerkAss with a penchant for violence, but a damn fine cop and a good person at the end of the day.
* Jacob on ''Series/{{Lost}}''. While he may work to good ends, he doesn't seem to care much about what happens to the people he uses along the way to achieve those ends. So much so that for much of the final season fans frequently speculated online that in the end Jacob would turn out to be the evil one and the Man In Black the good one.
* Saul Tigh of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' is an unfriendly, grumpy bastard with an alcohol addiction and is the first to call out for the execution of a Cylon. He's also LawfulGood, fiercely loyal to his best friend and superior Bill Adama and is not afraid to sacrifice himself if necessary.
** Doc Cottle is a gruff old man who mouths off to people and absolutely ''refuses'' to put out his cigarette even when patients request it, but he's a good surgeon who takes his job very seriously regardless of who the patient is. He also has no problem pulling rank over both Admiral Adama ''and'' President Roslin when they're doing something needlessly risky that just happens to be a medical issue.
* Summer Roberts from ''Series/TheOC'' can be bitchy, rude, and inconsiderate, but she also saves Christmas when needed.
* Captain [[TheCaptain Dylan Hunt]] of the ''[[Series/{{Andromeda}} Andromeda Ascendant]]''. Perfectly nice and agreeable guy and eternal optimist. He is also a seasoned military officer who has started a war, destroyed thousands of ships in one fell swoop, and if you screw him over, he will drag you down with him and let you experience the results first hand. "Right now, my bad day is your bad day, enjoy the view."
* Gibbs in ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' is certainly good, and never would be described as nice. He's rarely really mean, but sometimes he is. Reasons 3 and most of 4 apply (we're never given the impression he actually wants to be a nice guy).
* Elliot Stabler in ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' can be a JerkWithAHeartOfGold- but he enforces the law and is on the side of good.
** Well, he enforces criminal law, but tends to be a bit more flexible with the constitutional rights of defendants, and has a nasty habit of injuring suspects. A good guy to have fighting for your interests, but not the guy you want investigating you if you're innocent. He'll get to the right answer, but it'll be a bumpy ride.
* Patrick Jane in ''Series/TheMentalist''. He catches killers, thieves, and rapists, but he is not nice, frequently pissing off other law enforcement officials just because he can. He'll also embarrass his teammates and blurt out secrets for no real reason. And he never, ever just comes out and says anything relevant if he can set up an elaborate way to trick it out of someone instead. He does have a soft spot for children, but that's it. It's often mentioned that if he wasn't so damn good at what he does, he'd have been fired or possibly killed by now.
* In ''Series/LostInOz'', Bellaridere's soldiers capture Alex and company, and she's essentially blackmailing them to fight the Witch. On the other hand, she does have the best interests of Oz in mind.

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* Michael Westen of ''Series/BurnNotice''. Always fights for the good guys, the underdog, those with no other place to go--and he and his cohorts have been damned ruthless while doing so, including Sam Axe [[spoiler:shooting a pistol into the ground ''Series/RockyMountainBountyHunters'', which follows fugitive recovery agents as he listens to a rather hysterical stand-off between two Bad Guys of the Week. The next sounds you hear are some fatal gunshots. In case you felt bad for them, [[JerkassVictim they kidnapped a kid and were going to kill him]]]].
* [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Spike]]
bring in ''Series/{{Angel}}''. During a brief stint at Angel's old job of helping the helpless, he stops a vampire from killing a woman. He then proceeds to insult the crap out of her for being dumb enough to be walking down a dark alley dressed the way she is.
** Hell, Series/{{Angel}} himself was this trope from the beginning, especially as he got "older". A RetiredMonster who preferred to solve problems with non-violent tactics, he was also accepting of the fact that, sometimes, a ''lot'' of people must die before positive change will happen.
** This has been one of Wesley's defining characteristics since his early days on ''Series/{{Buffy|TheVampireSlayer}},'' although it becomes even more noticeable after he [[TookALevelInBadass takes a few levels in badass]]. When things are quiet, he can be perfectly amiable, but when there's something bigger at stake, he's more interested in getting results than being nice. Long-term solutions are much more important to Wesley than short-term politeness.
*** A prime example is the second season episode ''Untouched,'' where Team Angel is attempting to help Bethany, a young woman who has telepathic powers she can't seem to control. Angel and Cordelia are both very gentle with Bethany, doing their best to help her keep calm and to make sure she feels safe with them. Wesley, on the other hand, after figuring out that her powers were the result of intense psychic trauma from her childhood, intentionally provokes her by mentioning the person who hurt her. She's extremely upset by it, and Angel and Cordelia both berate Wesley for being so harsh, but Angel later admits that it was a useful thing for them to know, because it allowed them to help Bethany in the long run.
** This KirkSummation gone bad, from ''Conviction:''
--->'''Hauser:''' You, your friends; you're conflicted, you're confused. [[GoodIsImpotent And that's why you're gonna lose]]. Because we possess the strongest thing in the world: conviction.\\
'''Angel:''' There ''is'' one thing stronger than conviction. One thing. Mercy. ''[kicks Hauser's shotgun, [[BoomHeadshot making him blow his own head off]]]''\\
'''Mook:''' What happened to mercy?!\\
'''Angel:''' You just saw the last of it.
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'':
** [[LovableAlphaBitch Cordelia Chase]] on ''Buffy'' (and to a lesser degree on ''Series/{{Angel}}'') is selfish, abrasive, and, when not being ''intentionally'' rude, is still staggeringly tactless. On the other hand, when it comes to fighting the bad guys, she's as brave as anyone else, loyal, and brutally honest.
--->"[[BrutalHonesty Tact is just not saying true stuff]]."
** Also, Giles. Despite how he acted in the first few seasons, he's often one of the most sarcastic and foul-mouthed people on the show (never picked up on by most due to him using mostly [[DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch British swears]]). Plus, he'll kill humans if he must, an opinion only shared by him until Season 8, as seen when he [[spoiler: smothers Ben, the human host the of the [[PhysicalGod Hellgoddess]] to death with a handkerchief in order to permanently destroy her]].
** Faith before her FaceHeelTurn.
** Wishverse Buffy
bail jumpers, certainly wasn't nice, or even helpful, for that matter, instead expecting people to point her in the direction of what needs killing.
* Keisuke Nago follows this trope to the letter in ''Series/KamenRiderKiva'', to the point where ''all five'' reasons listed in the opening paragraphs that a person could experience this trope apply to him. He eventually mellows out, but it takes half the series to happen.
** [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Tsukasa Kadoya]] is similarly a massive jerk to everyone he meets, though he [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold swiftly softens]] because he has at least three {{Morality Pet}}s: [[{{Tsundere}} Natsumi]], [[IdiotHero Yuusuke]], and eventually an alternate universe version of [[Series/KamenRiderStronger Tackle]]. It's implied he's so jerkish because he feels resigned to his fate as the Destroyer of Worlds, something everyone except the aforementioned three keep telling him over and over.
** [[Series/KamenRiderKabuto Tendou Souji]] is an InsufferableGenius who has no problem showing people how
don't have much better he is than all of them. Like Tsukasa though, he has two MoralityPet in his sisters, Juka and [[spoiler: Hiyori]]. His friendship with [[IdiotHero Kagami]] also cause him to soften up a little and by the end of the series, it's pretty clear he cares a lot about the people close to him.
** [[Series/KamenRiderGaim Roshuo]] may be the least evil of the Overlords, but his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment first full appearance has him gruesomely murder a major character]], redirect {{Kill SAT}}s to USA when they fired upon Zawame, and causing Helheim to invade the world ''en masse''. However, he gave said major character a chance to run, gave humanity a chance when confronted, and found the good in someone that TheQuisling left in his care after she reminds him of his ''own'' MoralityPet that he lost long ago.
* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'': Sergeant James Doakes is an anti-social JerkAss with a penchant for violence, but a damn fine cop and a good person at the end of the day.
* Jacob on ''Series/{{Lost}}''. While he may work to good ends, he doesn't seem to care much about what happens to the people he uses along the way to achieve those ends. So much so that for much of the final season fans frequently speculated online that in the end Jacob would turn out to be the evil one and the Man In Black the good one.
* Saul Tigh of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' is an unfriendly, grumpy bastard with an alcohol addiction and is the first to call out
sympathy for the execution of a Cylon. He's also LawfulGood, fiercely loyal to his best friend and superior Bill Adama and is not afraid to sacrifice himself if necessary.
** Doc Cottle is a gruff old man who mouths off to people and absolutely ''refuses'' to put out his cigarette even when patients request it, but he's a good surgeon who takes his job very seriously regardless of who the patient is. He also has no problem pulling rank over both Admiral Adama ''and'' President Roslin when
guys they're doing something needlessly risky that just happens bringing back to the police. Then again, the ones they're chasing after tend to be hardened criminals with records on them.
* Dr. Cox of ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' is willing to risk his career to save
a medical issue.
* Summer Roberts from ''Series/TheOC'' can be bitchy, rude,
patient's life, but is not an overwhelmingly friendly person and inconsiderate, but she also saves Christmas when needed.
* Captain [[TheCaptain Dylan Hunt]] of the ''[[Series/{{Andromeda}} Andromeda Ascendant]]''. Perfectly nice and agreeable guy and eternal optimist. He is also
gladly insults a seasoned military officer patient who has started a war, destroyed thousands of ships in one fell swoop, and if you screw him over, he will drag you down with him and let you experience different opinions than him. Differing opinions, the results first hand. "Right now, my bad day woman he loves, his favored protégé, complete strangers... Cox is your bad day, enjoy the view."
* Gibbs in ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' is certainly good, and never would be described as nice. He's rarely really mean, but sometimes he is. Reasons 3 and most of 4 apply (we're never given the impression he actually wants to be
not a nice guy).
* Elliot Stabler in ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' can be a JerkWithAHeartOfGold-
person, but he enforces the law see his reactions to losing friends and is on the side of good.
** Well, he enforces criminal law, but tends to be a bit more flexible with the constitutional rights of defendants, and has a nasty habit of injuring suspects. A good guy to have fighting for your interests, but not the guy you want investigating you if you're innocent. He'll get to the right answer, but it'll be a bumpy ride.
* Patrick Jane in ''Series/TheMentalist''. He catches killers, thieves, and rapists, but he is not nice, frequently pissing off other law enforcement officials just because he can. He'll also embarrass his teammates and blurt out secrets for no real reason. And he never, ever just comes out and says anything relevant if he can set up an elaborate way to trick it out of someone instead. He does have a soft spot for children, but that's it. It's often mentioned that if he wasn't so damn good at what he does, he'd have been fired or possibly killed by now.
* In ''Series/LostInOz'', Bellaridere's soldiers capture Alex and company, and she's essentially blackmailing them to fight the Witch. On the other hand, she does have the best interests of Oz in mind.
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* Deputy Chief Brenda Lee Johnson in ''Series/TheCloser'' will fight for her people and for the victims of crime, but will run rough-shod over anyone and everyone (including her husband the FBI agent) to solve her case. In one notable episode she was after this rich young punk who has fled to Mexico after raping and killing his family's Mexican maid. Brenda threatens to charge his mother with aiding and abetting his escape unless he explained the entire thing to her. He cheerfully does so and then arrogantly tells Brenda she can't touch him. Brenda agrees that this is true, but then she points out that he is in a Mexican police station with two Mexican police officers who understand English standing behind him and he just confessed to raping and murdering a Mexican girl. They promptly arrest him for the rape and murder and drag him away to a life sentence in Mexican prison, stated to be far worse for him than the similar sentence in US prison. Even Brenda acknowledges that she may have gone a little too far to close this case.
** Several later seasons revolve around one case in which Johnson released a suspect who she could not convict, after making his gangster friends believe that he had sold them out. [[spoiler:They murder him. Brenda knew that would happen, and a wrongful death lawsuit nearly cripples her unit over the next season.]]
* On ''Series/{{Leverage}}'', Nate is this in spades, being able to manipulate others at will without concern over their well being apart from helping people. This is also true for the rest of the team in many ways, though all of them are more kind than Nate, who is generally seen as a bastard by most. He also has IntelligenceEqualsIsolation as well.
* Parodied on ''Series/{{Monk}}''. Monk is so demanding of his dry cleaners that he is charged extra, and eventually banned from the place. Of course the murderer is a more courteous customer. Even after being informed of his deeds, the dry cleaner still thinks the murderer is a better customer than Monk.

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* Deputy Chief Brenda Lee Johnson in ''Series/TheCloser'' will fight for her people Rodney [=McKay=] of ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' is about as rude, obnoxious, and anti-social as they come, but, despite his vocal cowardliness, he's one of the first to put his life on the line for the victims of crime, but will run rough-shod over anyone greater good, and everyone (including her husband the FBI agent) to solve her case. In one notable episode she was after this rich young punk is capable of truly awesome heroics whenever his internal "Chance of Impending Doom" gauge redlines.
** Also, there's Ronon Dex,
who has fled can be outright mean, is hard to Mexico after raping get to know, and killing his family's Mexican maid. Brenda threatens to charge his mother with aiding and abetting his escape unless he explained the entire thing to her. He cheerfully does so and then arrogantly tells Brenda she can't touch him. Brenda agrees that this is true, but then she points out that he is in takes a Mexican police station with two Mexican police officers who understand English standing behind him and he just confessed to raping and murdering a Mexican girl. They promptly arrest him for the rape and murder and drag him away to a life sentence in Mexican prison, stated to be far worse long time for him to warm up to you enough to trust you as a friend. But when that time comes, he's a fierce fighter.
** To a lesser extent, O'Neill of ''Series/StargateSG1''. He's clearly far more comfortable with kicking evildoers' asses
than the similar sentence making friends. [[TheConscience That's what Daniel was for]].
* Captain Jonathan Archer
in US prison. Even Brenda acknowledges that she may have gone a little too far to close this case.
** Several later seasons revolve around one case
season 3 of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''. The entirety of season 3 is an arc in which Johnson released the crew of the Enterprise must go on a suspect mission to stop aliens who she could not convict, after making intend to destroy the Earth. Needless to say, Captain Archer takes his gangster friends believe responsibility pretty seriously, and goes to some lengths to ensure his mission is a success. This includes [[spoiler:torturing an alien to get information out of him by deoxygenating the room he's in, as well as creating a fully conscious clone of one of his crew who is badly injured, so that he had sold them out. [[spoiler:They murder him. Brenda knew that would happen, and a wrongful death lawsuit nearly cripples her unit over can harvest its organs to give to the next season.crew member.]]
* On ''Series/{{Leverage}}'', Nate Every one of the good guys on ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', but Castiel, the angel, deserves special mention. He might work for the greater good, but he and all of the other angels are warriors of God. He's a soldier. The angels aren't there to follow anyone around or perch on anyone's shoulders. Seriously, they're about as far away from [[Series/TouchedByAnAngel Roma Downey]] as you could possibly get.
** Sam and Dean, in different ways. Sam can be absolutely ''ruthless'' for the greater good and has a nasty streak of anger issues. Dean has no compunctions about [[PercussivePrevention forcibly stopping]] people before they screw things up and spent ten years "studying" under Alastair as a torturer in Hell. He's still got the skills he learned there and has put them to "good" use on occasion.
* Derek Hale of ''Series/TeenWolf'' actually devotes himself to protecting others, but
is this in spades, being able rarely sociable even to manipulate those closest to him and does not maintain the pretense of friendship even with people like Scott and Stiles, who he will readily risk his life to protect. There are times when he seems to want to be more neutrally-aligned, but he invariably goes back to helping people despite himself. His [[DestructiveRomance past history]] serves to explain his desire to keep others at will without concern over their well being apart from helping people. This is also true for the rest of the team in many ways, though all of them are more kind than Nate, who is generally seen as a bastard by most. He also has IntelligenceEqualsIsolation as well.
* Parodied on ''Series/{{Monk}}''. Monk is so demanding of his dry cleaners that he is charged extra, and eventually banned from the place. Of course the murderer is a more courteous customer. Even after being informed of his deeds, the dry cleaner still thinks the murderer is a better customer than Monk.
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* Derek Hale of ''Series/TeenWolf'' actually devotes himself to protecting others, but is rarely sociable even to those closest to him and does not maintain the pretense of friendship even with people like Scott and Stiles, who he will readily risk his life to protect. There are times when he seems to want to be more neutrally-aligned, but he invariably goes back to helping people despite himself. His [[DestructiveRomance past history]] serves to explain his desire to keep others at a distance.
* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': Reese, especially towards Fusco.
* Mark Fallon on the ''Series/{{Castle}}'' episodes "Setup" and "Countdown". He is a Homeland Security agent assigned to help track down a bomb. He is an [[KnightInSourArmor extremely dour]] sort but he is dedicated to his job and does it well. His dourness as it turns out comes from the fact that his wife was killed on 9-11.
* DS Barbara Havers of ''Series/TheInspectorLynleyMysteries'' is without a doubt a truly ''good'' character. She's just... not nice. At all. This is thanks to StepfordSnarker tendencies and a complete inability to believe anything but the worst of anyone [[CharacterDevelopment until she's paired up with the eponymous]] [[DefrostingIceQueen Inspector Lynley]].
* Captain Jonathan Archer in season 3 of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''. The entirety of season 3 is an arc in which the crew of the Enterprise must go on a mission to stop aliens who intend to destroy the Earth. Needless to say, Captain Archer takes his responsibility pretty seriously, and goes to some lengths to ensure his mission is a success. This includes [[spoiler:torturing an alien to get information out of him by deoxygenating the room he's in, as well as creating a fully conscious clone of one of his crew who is badly injured, so that he can harvest its organs to give to the crew member.]]
* Hank Schrader from ''Series/BreakingBad''. He's a wisecracking jerk, but also an exceptional agent who deals with extremely dangerous criminals.
* ''Series/TwentyFour'': Jack Bauer only has the security of the United States in mind but he didn't get to [[TropeNamers name his own trope]] by [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique cordially asking his captives to reveal their secrets]].
* Det. Scotty Valens from ''Series/ColdCase'' would certainly justify. Although he was originally rougher in the earlier episodes, he still had plenty of JerkAss tendencies about him, such as having a HairTriggerTemper, not being afraid of resorting to violence when called for it, being confrontational with suspects--even the ''innocent'' ones--and mocking of some victims and their loved ones (one episode even had him snickering at the mere thought of a ''dead, overweight cold case victim'' being involved with a handsome man who had recently committed suicide over her).
** Det. Nick Vera on occasion, as well. Aside from also not being above using violence towards/bullying suspects and witnesses alike, he also becomes involved with some of the "hotter" female suspects (in spite of how unethical it is), cheats on his wife on numerous (who then leaves him midway through season 3) and comes off for the most part as a boorish, borderline misogynistic JerkAss who at one point wrote off a bunch of hearing-impaired students who were using sign language to communicate as "fighting" with each other and gossiping about him. Even the events of "Flashover" in which a man he wrongfully accused of murdering his children is later killed in prison that causes him to go into a downward spiral comes off as LaserGuidedKarma rather then paint him in any [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic sympathetic type of light.]]
* ''Series/RockyMountainBountyHunters'', which follows fugitive recovery agents as they bring in bail jumpers, certainly don't have much sympathy for the guys they're bringing back to the police. Then again, the ones they're chasing after tend to be hardened criminals with records on them.
* Series/JessicaJones2015 does some pretty unpleasant things to get Kilgrave, and is rather rude, sarcastic, and belligerent towards most people.



* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': Roy to a certain extent, who, while being LawfulGood, enjoys verbally lambasting his friends and enemies a bit too much and is even berated for it by several other LawfulGood characters.
** The paladins of Azure City are pragmatic in general, cunning to the point of underhandedness when necessary. (Yes, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0214.html even]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0215.html Miko]].)
** Miko is socially inept, LawfulStupid, and eventually [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope jumps off the slippery slope]], but she's unfailingly courageous and eager to save innocent bystanders.
** The deva who evaluates Roy's case rather easily intimidates Eugene from interfering.
** Haley has her moments, too. Those who read her origin comic may get MoodWhiplash when they see her friends again. [[spoiler:She kills most of them without hesitation, and in many cases without them even having the chance to surrender or speak in their own defense. Mind, they're there to kill her, too]].
** The same can be said, albeit in different ways, of Durkon. He's LawfulGood to the core, and weeps tears of joy when he realizes that he'll be going home to his people [[spoiler:as a corpse]]. He also has Charisma as his dump stat, so even when people can understand his accent, he comes off gruff.
* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': After Gil [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090323 delineates]] how Zola is fairly innocuous and in danger--an idiot, but not malicious--he is questioned about whether her lack of malice is important...which produces an intimidating burst of rage: if he let everyone he thought was an idiot die, there wouldn't be many people left alive.
** ''Girl Genius'' is pretty fond of this trope--practically all of the "good" characters are able to slip into [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Evil]] [[MadScientist Demented]] [[ScienceRelatedMemeticDisorder Sparky]] [[GadgeteerGenius Genius]] [[TheMadnessPlace Mode]] at a moment's notice. Agatha, Gil, and Klaus would be the best examples--and are at each other's throat half of the time.
--->'''[[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090504 Agatha]]:''' I get it. I ''see'' where this is ''going''. ''[...]'' ''I'm'' the big meanie, because ''I'' made Princess Psycho ''cry''. ''I'm'' the bad guy because, for whatever reason, ''you'' didn't tell your ''nasty little friend'' who you ''are'', and now she's ''sad''. So you're mad at ''me''--because ''now'' she's all sweet and teary and needs '''''rescuing''''', and ''I'M'' the evil madgirl with the {{death ray}} and the freakish ancestors--and the town full of minions--and the horde of [[SuperSoldier Jägers]]--and the homicidal castle full of sycophantic evil geniuses and fun-sized hunter-killer monster clanks and '''''goodness know what else'''''-- ''[[[BeatPanel pause]]]'' And you know what? '''I CAN WORK WITH THAT!'''
** As an even earlier example--albeit with a good touch of BewareTheNiceOnes--here is the very first time Gil realizes this and achieves a Crowning Speech of Awesome (if such a trope exists):
---> '''[[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080229 Gil]]:''' I am '''''sick to death''''' of this! What do I have to '''''do'''''?! I just took down an entire army of war clanks, and '''still''' I get treated like a '''halfwit child'''! [...] '''''Always''''', I try to be '''''reasonable'''''. To be ''fair''. I try to ''talk'' to people. And no one '''''ever''''' takes it as anything other than '''''weakness'''''. [...] You listen to me try to be ''civilized'', and you think--"Oh, '''''he's nothing'''''." "'''''Him''''' we can '''''ignore'''''." "'''''Him''''' we can '''''push around'''''." "We can do whatever we want--'''''he''''' won't stop us." [...] Because nobody ever '''''takes me seriously'''''--unless I shout and threaten like a cut-rate '''''stage villain'''''. Well, you know '''what?''' I can '''do''' crazy. I '''''really can'''''. And it looks like I'm going to '''''have''''' to. [...] I'll have to give up all this "'''''being reasonable'''''" garbage--and show you '''idiots''' what kind of madboy you're '''''really dealing with!''''' ...Oh. Oh, no. This must be how my ''[[NecessarilyEvil father]]'' feels--'''all the time!'''
* Mike from ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' has this in him. He comes off as a total {{Jerkass}} [[spoiler:until he sacrifices his life to save Joyce at the end. He also does several other heroic things before then, but that's the kicker.]]
** When Mike shows up in ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'', some of the horrible things he does end up forcing other characters to confront bad aspects of themselves, making them better people overall.
%%* Master Fei from ''Webcomic/HowIKilledYourMaster''
* Raven, from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'', is a strict disciplinarian, quite caustic and doesn't suffer fools gladly. And will fight monsters or wizards to protect his students.
* Gilgam in ''Webcomic/TheWaterPhoenixKing'' is the embodiment of this. Being ReallySevenHundredYearsOld is only part of the reason; it mostly seems caused by [[WonTheWarLostThePeace post-war disillusionment]] and [[WarIsHell depression,]] though he was probably always sarcastic and irreverent (he ''was'' a lawyer, after all) and being the OnlySaneMan (in his mind, at least) doesn't help.
* Keroff's unnamed lieutenant in ''[[Webcomic/CrystalSun Crystal Sun]]'' refuses to empathize with Keroff, the main protagonists, or anyone really, in the name of doing what appears to immediately benefit the majority.
* Aeris from ''Webcomic/VGCats''. She tends to [[DeadpanSnarker very bluntly]] berate Leo for his stupidity, but often times it's for his own good. [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=83 (Here's an especially classic case of this.)]] She's also implied-but-not-shown to hit Leo from time to time, but it's presumably based on a similar principle.
** This varies from strip to strip though. Occasionally she will become so enraged by Leo's antics that she will go back in time to erase him from existence completely. He gets better though.
* In ''Webcomic/ImpureBlood'', [[http://www.impurebloodwebcomic.com/Pages/Chapter007/ib041.html Elnor bluntly tells Roan]] that FantasticRacism will continue if he doesn't act civilly.

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': Roy to a certain extent, who, while being LawfulGood, enjoys verbally lambasting his friends and enemies a bit too much and is even berated for it by several other LawfulGood characters.
** The paladins of Azure City are pragmatic in general, cunning to the point of underhandedness when necessary. (Yes, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0214.html even]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0215.html Miko]].)
** Miko is socially inept, LawfulStupid, and eventually [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope jumps off the slippery slope]], but she's unfailingly courageous and eager to save innocent bystanders.
** The deva who evaluates Roy's case rather easily intimidates Eugene from interfering.
** Haley has her moments, too. Those who read her origin comic may get MoodWhiplash when they see her friends again. [[spoiler:She kills most of them without hesitation, and in many cases without them even having the chance to surrender or speak in their own defense. Mind, they're there to kill her, too]].
** The same can be said, albeit in different ways, of Durkon. He's LawfulGood to the core, and weeps tears of joy when he realizes that he'll be going home to his people [[spoiler:as a corpse]]. He also has Charisma as his dump stat, so even when people can understand his accent, he comes off gruff.
* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': After Gil [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090323 delineates]] how Zola is fairly innocuous and in danger--an idiot, but not malicious--he is questioned about whether her lack of malice is important...which produces an intimidating burst of rage: if he let everyone he thought was an idiot die, there wouldn't be many people left alive.
** ''Girl Genius'' is pretty fond of this trope--practically all of the "good" characters are able to slip into [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Evil]] [[MadScientist Demented]] [[ScienceRelatedMemeticDisorder Sparky]] [[GadgeteerGenius Genius]] [[TheMadnessPlace Mode]] at a moment's notice. Agatha, Gil, and Klaus would be the best examples--and are at each other's throat half of the time.
--->'''[[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090504 Agatha]]:''' I get it. I ''see'' where this is ''going''. ''[...]'' ''I'm'' the big meanie, because ''I'' made Princess Psycho ''cry''. ''I'm'' the bad guy because, for whatever reason, ''you'' didn't tell your ''nasty little friend'' who you ''are'', and now she's ''sad''. So you're mad at ''me''--because ''now'' she's all sweet and teary and needs '''''rescuing''''', and ''I'M'' the evil madgirl with the {{death ray}} and the freakish ancestors--and the town full of minions--and the horde of [[SuperSoldier Jägers]]--and the homicidal castle full of sycophantic evil geniuses and fun-sized hunter-killer monster clanks and '''''goodness know what else'''''-- ''[[[BeatPanel pause]]]'' And you know what? '''I CAN WORK WITH THAT!'''
** As an even earlier example--albeit with a good touch of BewareTheNiceOnes--here is the very first time Gil realizes this and achieves a Crowning Speech of Awesome (if such a trope exists):
---> '''[[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080229 Gil]]:''' I am '''''sick to death''''' of this! What do I have to '''''do'''''?! I just took down an entire army of war clanks, and '''still''' I get treated like a '''halfwit child'''! [...] '''''Always''''', I try to be '''''reasonable'''''. To be ''fair''. I try to ''talk'' to people. And no one '''''ever''''' takes it as anything other than '''''weakness'''''. [...] You listen to me try to be ''civilized'', and you think--"Oh, '''''he's nothing'''''." "'''''Him''''' we can '''''ignore'''''." "'''''Him''''' we can '''''push around'''''." "We can do whatever we want--'''''he''''' won't stop us." [...] Because nobody ever '''''takes me seriously'''''--unless I shout and threaten like a cut-rate '''''stage villain'''''. Well, you know '''what?''' I can '''do''' crazy. I '''''really can'''''. And it looks like I'm going to '''''have''''' to. [...] I'll have to give up all this "'''''being reasonable'''''" garbage--and show you '''idiots''' what kind of madboy you're '''''really dealing with!''''' ...Oh. Oh, no. This must be how my ''[[NecessarilyEvil father]]'' feels--'''all the time!'''
* Mike from ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' has this in him. He comes off as a total {{Jerkass}} [[spoiler:until he sacrifices his life to save Joyce at the end. He also does several other heroic things before then, but that's the kicker.]]
** When Mike shows up in ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'', some of the horrible things he does end up forcing other characters to confront bad aspects of themselves, making them better people overall.
%%* Master Fei from ''Webcomic/HowIKilledYourMaster''
* Raven, from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'', is a strict disciplinarian, quite caustic and doesn't suffer fools gladly. And will fight monsters or wizards to protect his students.
* Gilgam in ''Webcomic/TheWaterPhoenixKing'' is the embodiment of this. Being ReallySevenHundredYearsOld is only part of the reason; it mostly seems caused by [[WonTheWarLostThePeace post-war disillusionment]] and [[WarIsHell depression,]] though he was probably always sarcastic and irreverent (he ''was'' a lawyer, after all) and being the OnlySaneMan (in his mind, at least) doesn't help.
* Keroff's unnamed lieutenant in ''[[Webcomic/CrystalSun Crystal Sun]]'' ''Webcomic/CrystalSun'' refuses to empathize with Keroff, the main protagonists, or anyone really, in the name of doing what appears to immediately benefit the majority.
majority.
* Aeris Sidney from ''Webcomic/VGCats''. She tends to [[DeadpanSnarker very bluntly]] berate Leo for his stupidity, but often times it's for his own good. [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=83 (Here's an especially classic case ''Webcomic/{{Distillum}}'' ain't nice. Maybe when she's not overworked... because of this.)]] She's also implied-but-not-shown to hit Leo from time to time, but it's presumably based on a similar principle.
** This varies from strip to strip though. Occasionally she will become so enraged by Leo's antics that she will go back in time to erase him from existence completely. He gets better though.
* In ''Webcomic/ImpureBlood'', [[http://www.impurebloodwebcomic.com/Pages/Chapter007/ib041.html Elnor bluntly tells Roan]] that FantasticRacism will continue if he doesn't act civilly.
the protagonists meddling...



-->'''Rikk:''' Your kind always underestimates ours. You mistake good manners for timidity. You mistake self-control for passivity. So self-controlled are we that sometimes we won’t retaliate when you harm us. But if you--ANY of you--harm our loved ones--we will come at you like fanged, slavering beasts from the darkest of LSD nightmares. Believe it.
* Angels in ''Webcomic/SlightlyDamned'' canonically tend towards good. What little we've seen of their society could be ''generously'' called a hyper-conformist borderline-fascist state.

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-->'''Rikk:''' Your kind always underestimates ours. You mistake good manners for timidity. You mistake self-control for passivity. So self-controlled are we that sometimes we won’t retaliate when you harm us. But if you--ANY you -- ANY of you--harm you -- harm our loved ones--we ones -- we will come at you like fanged, slavering beasts from the darkest of LSD nightmares. Believe it.
* Angels ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': After Gil [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090323 delineates]] how Zola is fairly innocuous and in ''Webcomic/SlightlyDamned'' canonically tend towards good. What danger -- an idiot, but not malicious -- he is questioned about whether her lack of malice is important... which produces an intimidating burst of rage: if he let everyone he thought was an idiot die, there wouldn't be many people left alive.
** ''Girl Genius'' is pretty fond of this trope -- practically all of the "good" characters are able to slip into [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Evil]] [[MadScientist Demented]] [[ScienceRelatedMemeticDisorder Sparky]] [[GadgeteerGenius Genius]] [[TheMadnessPlace Mode]] at a moment's notice. Agatha, Gil, and Klaus would be the best examples--and are at each other's throat half of the time.
--->'''[[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090504 Agatha]]:''' I get it. I ''see'' where this is ''going''. ''[...]'' ''I'm'' the big meanie, because ''I'' made Princess Psycho ''cry''. ''I'm'' the bad guy because, for whatever reason, ''you'' didn't tell your ''nasty
little we've seen friend'' who you ''are'', and now she's ''sad''. So you're mad at ''me'' -- because ''now'' she's all sweet and teary and needs '''''rescuing''''', and ''I'M'' the evil madgirl with the {{death ray}} and the freakish ancestors -- and the town full of their society could minions -- and the horde of [[SuperSoldier Jägers]] -- and the homicidal castle full of sycophantic evil geniuses and fun-sized hunter-killer monster clanks and '''''goodness know what else''''' -- ''[[[BeatPanel pause]]]'' And you know what? '''I CAN WORK WITH THAT!'''
** As an even earlier example -- albeit with a good touch of BewareTheNiceOnes -- here is the very first time Gil realizes this and achieves a Crowning Speech of Awesome (if such a trope exists):
---> '''[[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080229 Gil]]:''' I am '''''sick to death''''' of this! What do I have to '''''do'''''?! I just took down an entire army of war clanks, and '''still''' I get treated like a '''halfwit child'''! [...] '''''Always''''', I try to
be ''generously'' called '''''reasonable'''''. To be ''fair''. I try to ''talk'' to people. And no one '''''ever''''' takes it as anything other than '''''weakness'''''. ''[...]'' You listen to me try to be ''civilized'', and you think--"Oh, '''''he's nothing'''''." "'''''Him''''' we can '''''ignore'''''." "'''''Him''''' we can '''''push around'''''." "We can do whatever we want--'''''he''''' won't stop us." [...] Because nobody ever '''''takes me seriously''''' -- unless I shout and threaten like a hyper-conformist borderline-fascist state.cut-rate '''''stage villain'''''. Well, you know '''what?''' I can '''do''' crazy. I '''''really can'''''. And it looks like I'm going to '''''have''''' to. ''[...]'' I'll have to give up all this "'''''being reasonable'''''" garbage -- and show you '''idiots''' what kind of madboy you're '''''really dealing with!''''' ...Oh. Oh, no. This must be how my ''[[NecessarilyEvil father]]'' feels -- '''all the time!'''
* Raven, from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'', is a strict disciplinarian, quite caustic and doesn't suffer fools gladly. And will fight monsters or wizards to protect his students.



--->VRISKA: I only ever wanted to do the right thing no matter how it made people judge me...
--->[...]
--->VRISKA: And you don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
--->VRISKA: You just have to know who you are and stay true to that.
--->VRISKA: So I'm going to keep fighting for people the only way I ever knew how.
--->VRISKA: 8y 8eing me.
* Sidney from ''Webcomic/{{Distillum}}'' ain't nice. Maybe when she's not overworked... because of the protagonists meddling...

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--->VRISKA: I only ever wanted to do the right thing no matter how it made people judge me...
--->[...]
--->VRISKA:
me...\\
[...]\\
VRISKA:
And you don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
--->VRISKA:
hero.\\
VRISKA:
You just have to know who you are and stay true to that.
--->VRISKA:
that.\\
VRISKA:
So I'm going to keep fighting for people the only way I ever knew how.
--->VRISKA:
how.\\
VRISKA:
8y 8eing me.
* Sidney %%* Master Fei from ''Webcomic/{{Distillum}}'' ain't nice. Maybe when she's not overworked... because of ''Webcomic/HowIKilledYourMaster''
* In ''Webcomic/ImpureBlood'', [[http://www.impurebloodwebcomic.com/Pages/Chapter007/ib041.html Elnor bluntly tells Roan]] that FantasticRacism will continue if he doesn't act civilly.
* Mike from ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' has this in him. He comes off as a total {{Jerkass}} [[spoiler:until he sacrifices his life to save Joyce at
the protagonists meddling...end. He also does several other heroic things before then, but that's the kicker.]]



-->'''Demon:''' Oh, sorry. Go on through. No hard feelings, ey?
-->'''Angel:''' [muttering] First against the wall [[CaughtUpInTheRapture when the Rapture comes]].

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-->'''Demon:''' Oh, sorry. Go on through. No hard feelings, ey?
-->'''Angel:'''
ey?\\
'''Angel:'''
[muttering] First against the wall [[CaughtUpInTheRapture when the Rapture comes]].comes]].
* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': Roy to a certain extent, who, while being LawfulGood, enjoys verbally lambasting his friends and enemies a bit too much and is even berated for it by several other LawfulGood characters.
** The paladins of Azure City are pragmatic in general, cunning to the point of underhandedness when necessary. (Yes, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0214.html even]] [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0215.html Miko]].)
** Miko is socially inept, LawfulStupid, and eventually [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope jumps off the slippery slope]], but she's unfailingly courageous and eager to save innocent bystanders.
** The deva who evaluates Roy's case rather easily intimidates Eugene from interfering.
** Haley has her moments, too. Those who read her origin comic may get MoodWhiplash when they see her friends again. [[spoiler:She kills most of them without hesitation, and in many cases without them even having the chance to surrender or speak in their own defense. Mind, they're there to kill her, too]].
** The same can be said, albeit in different ways, of Durkon. He's LawfulGood to the core, and weeps tears of joy when he realizes that he'll be going home to his people [[spoiler:as a corpse]]. He also has Charisma as his dump stat, so even when people can understand his accent, he comes off gruff.
** When Mike shows up in ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'', some of the horrible things he does end up forcing other characters to confront bad aspects of themselves, making them better people overall.
* Angels in ''Webcomic/SlightlyDamned'' canonically tend towards good. What little we've seen of their society could be ''generously'' called a hyper-conformist borderline-fascist state.
* Aeris from ''Webcomic/VGCats''. She tends to [[DeadpanSnarker very bluntly]] berate Leo for his stupidity, but often times it's for his own good. [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=83 (Here's an especially classic case of this.)]] She's also implied-but-not-shown to hit Leo from time to time, but it's presumably based on a similar principle.
** This varies from strip to strip though. Occasionally she will become so enraged by Leo's antics that she will go back in time to erase him from existence completely. He gets better though.
* Gilgam in ''Webcomic/TheWaterPhoenixKing'' is the embodiment of this. Being ReallySevenHundredYearsOld is only part of the reason; it mostly seems caused by [[WonTheWarLostThePeace post-war disillusionment]] and [[WarIsHell depression,]] though he was probably always sarcastic and irreverent (he ''was'' a lawyer, after all) and being the OnlySaneMan (in his mind, at least) doesn't help.



* WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd. He briefly showed some compassion in the ''VideoGame/{{Battletoads}}'' review by letting Kyle Justin sit on the couch. And in the R.O.B. episode, he single-handedly [[spoiler:defeated R.O.B. so that all the games in the world weren't limited to ''Gyromite'' and ''Stack-Up'']].



* The Courier in ''Machinima/CouriersMindRiseOfNewVegas'' is a snarky, cynical, sadist with a HairTriggerTemper. But when the people of The Mojave need a hero, he'll always (begrudgingly) step up to save the day, no matter the cost.
* ''WebVideo/DemoReel''. Carl Copenhagan and [[OnlyOneName Quinn]] both have terrorist backstories and little patience for stupidity, but become part of the LonelyTogether family by the end of the second episode.



* In ''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest'', Adam Dodd circa v3. Whilst he's supposedly ''the'' good guy of the series that doesn't stop him acting like a a complete [[{{Jerkass}} prick]] to more or less everyone.
** V4's Aileen Borden seems to fit this trope so far. Being a DeadpanSnarker and somewhat of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold from the beginning, she tends to snark her way through events in the game, and does from time to time get annoyed with her allies. However, despite this, she genuinely wants to get as many people off the island as possible, gets worried about her team mates when they go missing and is relieved when they show up again, and gets upset at Announcement time, especially if someone she knows is named. Shame about her being an UnwittingPawn to [[ManipulativeBastard Aaron Hughes]]...
* Corporal Erik Mahren, range officer at Whateley Academy in the Literature/WhateleyUniverse. Coarse, angry, and clinically insane after the horrors he experienced in a Black Ops group for the U.S. Defense Department, he acts like a JerkAss to the students. Except he'll do anything to keep students from being hurt on his ranges, and he was willing to be brutally ripped to pieces to save a teenage girl from killing herself.



* WebVideo/NyxCrossing: The natives help the group in episode 4, but in doing so, they severely injure one, tie them all up, go through their things, and abandon them before helping them.
* WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd. He briefly showed some compassion in the ''VideoGame/{{Battletoads}}'' review by letting Kyle Justin sit on the couch. And in the R.O.B. episode, he single-handedly [[spoiler:defeated R.O.B. so that all the games in the world weren't limited to ''Gyromite'' and ''Stack-Up'']].

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* WebVideo/NyxCrossing: The natives help the group In ''WebAnimation/MadnessCombat'' we have Jesus (aka Jebus). His title in episode 4, but in doing so, they severely injure one, tie them all up, go through their things, 5 is "The Savior", he wears a supernatural halo, controls life and abandon them before helping them.
* WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd. He briefly showed some compassion
death (primarily in the ''VideoGame/{{Battletoads}}'' review by letting Kyle Justin sit form of zombies), tries to bring justice to the wicked, opposes the satanic [[BigBad Auditor]], and only fights against the protagonist Hank on the couch. And in the R.O.B. episode, he single-handedly [[spoiler:defeated R.O.B. so grounds that all the games in the world weren't limited to ''Gyromite'' and ''Stack-Up'']].Hank is a dangerous criminal guilty of murdering law enforcement officers. However, his method of "Justice" is more or less JudgeJuryAndExecutioner.



* ''WebVideo/DemoReel''. Carl Copenhagan and [[OnlyOneName Quinn]] both have terrorist backstories and little patience for stupidity, but become part of the LonelyTogether family by the end of the second episode.
* The Silver Order from ''{{Literature/Tasakeru}}'' exemplifies this trope. They feed, clothe, and shelter, and provide aid for vast numbers of Sankami's citizens in their credo to "protect life", but Gods help you if you fall outside their definition of "life"...
* ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' applies this trope to almost every hero that we get to know, but usually in a way that emphasizes that they are only flawed humans with incredible abilities and more attention paid to them than normal people. It doesn't help that most people acquire powers by going through an [[TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening incredibly traumatic event]]. [[spoiler:The heroes who [[SuperSerum gain powers]] from Cauldron fall even harder into this trope]].
** Armsmaster/[[spoiler:Defiant]] is probably the most prominent example. He's arrogant, abrasive, non-empathetic, and socially-maladjusted. He's willing to [[spoiler:take advantage of a truce to engineer the deaths of villains who are at least temporarily his allies in the name of the greater good]]. And yet he genuinely cares about helping people and doing the right thing, and he proves willing to at least try and improve on his interpersonal failings despite continuously falling short.
* In ''WebAnimation/MadnessCombat'' we have Jesus (aka Jebus). His title in episode 5 is "The Savior", he wears a supernatural halo, controls life and death (primarily in the form of zombies), tries to bring justice to the wicked, opposes the satanic [[BigBad Auditor]], and only fights against the protagonist Hank on the grounds that Hank is a dangerous criminal guilty of murdering law enforcement officers. However, his method of "Justice" is more or less JudgeJuryAndExecutioner.
* Weiss Schnee of ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' is a metaphorical and literal IceQueen and AcademicAlphaBitch who has [[FantasticRacism bigoted opinions on Faunas]] (with a good FreudianExcuse thrown in though) and generally speaks to others with a snarky, derisive tone. She's still one of the good guys, however, and [[CharacterDevelopment she's not quite nice yet but she's getting there]].

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* ''WebVideo/DemoReel''. Carl Copenhagan and [[OnlyOneName Quinn]] both have terrorist backstories and little patience for stupidity, but become part of the LonelyTogether family by the end of the second episode.
*
''WebVideo/NyxCrossing'': The Silver Order from ''{{Literature/Tasakeru}}'' exemplifies this trope. They feed, clothe, and shelter, and provide aid for vast numbers of Sankami's citizens in their credo to "protect life", but Gods natives help you if you fall outside their definition of "life"...
* ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' applies this trope to almost every hero that we get to know, but usually in a way that emphasizes that they are only flawed humans with incredible abilities and more attention paid to them than normal people. It doesn't help that most people acquire powers by going through an [[TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening incredibly traumatic event]]. [[spoiler:The heroes who [[SuperSerum gain powers]] from Cauldron fall even harder into this trope]].
** Armsmaster/[[spoiler:Defiant]] is probably
the most prominent example. He's arrogant, abrasive, non-empathetic, and socially-maladjusted. He's willing to [[spoiler:take advantage of a truce to engineer the deaths of villains who are at least temporarily his allies in the name of the greater good]]. And yet he genuinely cares about helping people and doing the right thing, and he proves willing to at least try and improve on his interpersonal failings despite continuously falling short.
* In ''WebAnimation/MadnessCombat'' we have Jesus (aka Jebus). His title
group in episode 5 is "The Savior", he wears a supernatural halo, controls life 4, but in doing so, they severely injure one, tie them all up, go through their things, and death (primarily in the form of zombies), tries to bring justice to the wicked, opposes the satanic [[BigBad Auditor]], and only fights against the protagonist Hank on the grounds that Hank is a dangerous criminal guilty of murdering law enforcement officers. However, his method of "Justice" is more or less JudgeJuryAndExecutioner.
* Weiss Schnee of ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' is a metaphorical and literal IceQueen and AcademicAlphaBitch who has [[FantasticRacism bigoted opinions on Faunas]] (with a good FreudianExcuse thrown in though) and generally speaks to others with a snarky, derisive tone. She's still one of the good guys, however, and [[CharacterDevelopment she's not quite nice yet but she's getting there]].
abandon them before helping them.



* The ''WebVideo/RWBYAbridged'' versions of Ruby is a ''extremely'' rude smartass, who makes her annoyance at other very well known. But, she also genuinely wants to keep her hometown safe and routinely stops criminal all by herself.
** Weiss is pretty much just like her cannon self with the added bonus, that she's not even training to become a hero ''by choice''. Still, when people are in danger, she ''will'' do what she has to, to defend them.
* The Courier in ''Machinima/CouriersMindRiseOfNewVegas'' is a snarky, cynical, sadist with a HairTriggerTemper. But when the people of The Mojave need a hero, he'll always (begrudgingly) step up to save the day, no matter the cost.

to:

* Weiss Schnee of ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' is a metaphorical and literal IceQueen and AcademicAlphaBitch who has [[FantasticRacism bigoted opinions on Faunas]] (with a good FreudianExcuse thrown in though) and generally speaks to others with a snarky, derisive tone. She's still one of the good guys, however, and [[CharacterDevelopment she's not quite nice yet but she's getting there]].
* The ''WebVideo/RWBYAbridged'' versions version of Ruby is a an ''extremely'' rude smartass, who makes her annoyance at other others very well known. But, she also genuinely wants to keep her hometown safe and routinely stops criminal criminals all by herself.
** Weiss is pretty much just like her cannon self canon self, with the added bonus, bonus that she's not even training to become a hero ''by choice''. Still, when people are in danger, she ''will'' do what she has to, to defend them.
* The Courier In ''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest'', Adam Dodd circa v3. Whilst he's supposedly ''the'' good guy of the series that doesn't stop him acting like a a complete [[{{Jerkass}} prick]] to more or less everyone.
** V4's Aileen Borden seems to fit this trope so far. Being a DeadpanSnarker and somewhat of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold from the beginning, she tends to snark her way through events
in ''Machinima/CouriersMindRiseOfNewVegas'' is a snarky, cynical, sadist the game, and does from time to time get annoyed with a HairTriggerTemper. But when the her allies. However, despite this, she genuinely wants to get as many people of off the island as possible, gets worried about her team mates when they go missing and is relieved when they show up again, and gets upset at Announcement time, especially if someone she knows is named. Shame about her being an UnwittingPawn to [[ManipulativeBastard Aaron Hughes]]...
*
The Mojave need Silver Order from ''{{Literature/Tasakeru}}'' exemplifies this trope. They feed, clothe, and shelter, and provide aid for vast numbers of Sankami's citizens in their credo to "protect life", but Gods help you if you fall outside their definition of "life"...
* Corporal Erik Mahren, range officer at Whateley Academy in the Literature/WhateleyUniverse. Coarse, angry, and clinically insane after the horrors he experienced in
a hero, Black Ops group for the U.S. Defense Department, he acts like a JerkAss to the students. Except he'll always (begrudgingly) step up do anything to keep students from being hurt on his ranges, and he was willing to be brutally ripped to pieces to save a teenage girl from killing herself.
* ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' applies this trope to almost every hero that we get to know, but usually in a way that emphasizes that they are only flawed humans with incredible abilities and more attention paid to them than normal people. It doesn't help that most people acquire powers by going through an [[TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening incredibly traumatic event]]. [[spoiler:The heroes who [[SuperSerum gain powers]] from Cauldron fall even harder into this trope]].
** Armsmaster/[[spoiler:Defiant]] is probably
the day, no matter most prominent example. He's arrogant, abrasive, non-empathetic, and socially-maladjusted. He's willing to [[spoiler:take advantage of a truce to engineer the cost. deaths of villains who are at least temporarily his allies in the name of the greater good]]. And yet he genuinely cares about helping people and doing the right thing, and he proves willing to at least try and improve on his interpersonal failings despite continuously falling short.
14th May '17 5:42:19 AM mkmlp
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* The ''WebVideo/RWBYAbridged'' versions of Ruby is a ''extremely'' rude smartass, who makes her annoyance at other very well known. But, she also genuinely wants to keep her hometown safe and routinely stops criminal all by herself.
** Weiss is pretty much just like her cannon self with the added bonus, that she's not even training to become a hero ''by choice''. Still, when people are in danger, she ''will'' do what she has to, to defend them.
* The Courier in ''Machinima/CouriersMindRiseOfNewVegas'' is a snarky, cynical, sadist with a HairTriggerTemper. But when the people of The Mojave need a hero, he'll always (begrudgingly) step up to save the day, no matter the cost.
13th May '17 5:26:59 AM Cameony
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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', any "good" person who isn't GoodIsNotSoft tends to end up here.

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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}''[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Halo}}'' [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', any "good" person who isn't GoodIsNotSoft tends to end up here.
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* Mike from ''[[{{Walkyverse}} It's Walky!]]'' has this in him. He comes off as a total {{Jerkass}} [[spoiler:until he sacrifices his life to save Joyce at the end. He also does several other heroic things before then, but that's the kicker.]]
* When Mike shows up in ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'', some of the horrible things he does end up forcing other characters to confront bad aspects of themselves, making them better people overall.

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* Mike from ''[[{{Walkyverse}} It's Walky!]]'' ''Webcomic/ItsWalky'' has this in him. He comes off as a total {{Jerkass}} [[spoiler:until he sacrifices his life to save Joyce at the end. He also does several other heroic things before then, but that's the kicker.]]
* ** When Mike shows up in ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'', some of the horrible things he does end up forcing other characters to confront bad aspects of themselves, making them better people overall.
22nd Apr '17 5:21:25 PM nombretomado
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* Some of your allies in the ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' series can come off as complete jerks who you nonetheless respect [[BunnyEarsLawyer because they're good at what they do]]. [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Shu]] and [[SuikodenV Zerase]] immediately spring to mind.

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* Some of your allies in the ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' series can come off as complete jerks who you nonetheless respect [[BunnyEarsLawyer because they're good at what they do]]. [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Shu]] and [[SuikodenV [[VideoGame/SuikodenV Zerase]] immediately spring to mind.
15th Apr '17 2:23:20 PM AthenaBlue
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': After his HeelFaceTurn, [[spoiler:Kallus]] qualifies as this, willing to do morally grey actions, including [[FrameUp framing]] another Imperial officer he'd been on good terms with, in order to maintain his [[ReverseMole cover]].
10th Apr '17 12:23:04 PM BeerBaron
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* Some of the Daedra from ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games ''may'' qualify as this. Daedric lords such as Azura, Meridia, and possibly Nocturnal have reputations for being less malignant and more beneficial to humans than the other lords. However, they aren't necessarily nice. Azura is described simultaneously as being cruel, but also as wise and encouraging her worshipers to love themselves as much as they love her.

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'':
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Some of the Daedra from ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games ''may'' qualify as this. [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric lords such as Azura, Meridia, and possibly Nocturnal have reputations for being less malignant and more beneficial to humans than Princes]] qualify. As a whole, the other lords. Daedric Princes are divine beings AboveGoodAndEvil who operate under BlueAndOrangeMorality in line with their spheres of influence. However, they aren't necessarily nice. Azura is described simultaneously can certainly be seen as being cruel, but "good" or "evil" from the point of view of morals, usually depending on whether a certain Prince's actions benefit or harm mortals more often. Specific examples:
*** Azura, Daedric Prince of Dusk and Dawn,
also as wise and encouraging known the Lady of Prophesy, encourages her worshipers to love themselves as much as they love her.her, and is very benevolent and protective over her greatest servants, as seen in her treatment of the [[PlayerCharacter the Nerevarine]] from ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]''. However, she has no compunction against expressing her displeasure in very nasty ways, having a cruel and often petty streak toward those who defy her in any way. She is fan of DisproportionateRetribution toward those who wrong her, such as ([[UnreliableNarrator possibly]]) cursing the Chimer race to becoming the ashen-skinned, red-eyed Dunmer after their leaders, [[PhysicalGod the Tribunal]], defied her. Later, in ''Morrowind'', she [[spoiler:guides the Nerevarine into casting down the Tribunal under the guise of guiding him/her in defeating [[BigBad Dagoth Ur]], whose source of power just happens to be the same as the Tribunal's]]. In the years that followed, as an indirect result of these actions, Morrowind is practically destroyed as a result of the [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion Crisis]], the "[[ColonyDrop Red]] [[ChekhovsVolcano Year]]", and [[SlaveRace the]] [[LizardFolk Argonian]] [[TheDogBitesBack invasion]]. The entire Dunmer way of life is disrupted, but Azura becomes even ''more revered'' by them as the center of their "New Temple" religion.
*** Meridia, a Daedric Prince whose sphere is obscured to mortals but is associated with Light, Beauty, and the Energy of Living Things, is another example. She is a noted adversary of Molag Bal, Daedric Prince of Domination and Rape, who might be the closest thing to a true GodOfEvil in the setting and whose actions are ''never'' benevolent toward mortals, which definitely makes her a lighter shade of gray in comparison. She also has [[BerserkButton an extreme hatred]] of anything undead or involving Necromancy, and wiping these things out is also typically beneficial to most mortals. However, she can very quickly cross into KnightTemplar territory regarding these things, is a {{Narcissist}}ic ProudBeauty, and will go through the FaceHeelRevolvingDoor with each appearance. In one instant, she'll be acting as the BigGood in defending mortal lives from hostile takeover by supernatural forces. Then in another, she'll be giving aid to beings who seek to overthrow the [[SaintlyChurch Nine Divines]] and enslave the races of Men.
*** Noctural, the Daedric Prince of Night and Darkness, also known as "Lady Luck", is another. Being the patron of thieves automatically makes her a few shades of gray darker, but despite this and her [[DarkIsNotEvil association with darkness]], she is usually quite benevolent to her followers. As long as they remain on her good side, they are gifted with "scoundrel's luck" and, for the highest ranking followers, extremely powerful and useful abilities. She is also stated to be a WellDoneSonGuy toward them, offering little praise but pushing them to do better.
** The Eight (later Nine) Divines, aka the Aedra, pre-creation beings who aided [[GodIsDead Lorkhan]] in creating the mortal world, are almost universally seen as a benevolent force of good on Nirn. However, they've been known to cross this with GoodIsNotSoft. After learning that aiding Lorkhan had caused them to lose a significant portion of their divine power, they "killed" Lorkhan and tore his "divine center" (heart) from his sundered body. They cast it down into the mortal world he helped to create, forcing his spirit to wander. Later, when the Daedra worshiping [[OurElvesAreDifferent Ayleids]] enslaved the races of men and [[KickTheDog tormented them with unimaginable cruelty]], they allied with the leader of the humans (Alessia) to overthrow the Ayleids, sending her divine reinforcements ([[ALoadOfBull Morihaus]] and [[TheBerserker Pelinal]] [[FantasticRacism Whitestrake]]), as well as aiding in other ways, to ensure a human victory. It may not have been entirely benevolent on their part, however, as Alessia promised to make the Divines the primary religion of her new empire and followed through on this promise after the Ayleids were defeated.
6th Apr '17 11:27:57 AM gb00393
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** Although Jon Snow is a NiceGuy and compassionate, he has his moments of this. He shows up his lowborn fellow recruits with his superior combat skills until Tyrion sets him straight by pointing out Jon's privileged upbringing to him, which makes Jon realize how rough the other recruits had it, resulting in Jon teaching them how to fight properly and bonding them as [[TrueCompanions friends]]. In season 3, the wildling warg Orell fights with Jon in a battle to the death after Jon refuses to kill an old man. During this battle to the death, Jon kills Orell while telling Orell that he was right about him all along: he has always been [[FakeDefector loyal to the Night's Watch]].

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** Although Jon Snow is a NiceGuy and compassionate, he has his moments of this. He shows up his lowborn fellow recruits with his superior combat skills until Tyrion sets him straight by pointing out Jon's privileged upbringing to him, which makes Jon realize how rough the other recruits had it, resulting in Jon teaching them how to fight properly and bonding them as [[TrueCompanions friends]]. In season 3, the wildling warg Orell fights with Jon in a battle to the death after Jon refuses to kill an old man. During this battle to the death, Jon kills Orell while telling Orell that he was right about him all along: he has always been [[FakeDefector loyal to the Night's Watch]]. He can also be somewhat brooding.
5th Apr '17 7:11:44 PM ILikeRobots
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* ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends:'' Jayce, [[{{Magitek}} hextech]] [[GadgeteerGenius inventor extraordinaire]], is a hugely arrogant InsufferableGenius who tends to insult and look down upon those he considers less intelligent than him (that is, most people), and in his focus story ''A Quick Fix,'' he flat-out refuses to fix the broken toy of a heartbroken little girl because he considers her breaking it "stupid." On the other hand, he spends his time enforcing justice and [[{{Superhero}} fighting crime]] in his hometown of Piltover, armed only with his masterpiece invention, the cannon-hammer hybrid known as the [[SwissArmyWeapon Mercury Hammer]]. Funny enough, story notes that the majority of Piltover's citizens see him as an [[IdealHero ideal]] HumbleHero, only to be disappointed by the man's actual mannerisms.

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* ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends:'' Jayce, [[{{Magitek}} hextech]] [[GadgeteerGenius inventor extraordinaire]], is a hugely arrogant InsufferableGenius who tends to insult and look down upon those he considers less intelligent than him (that is, most people), and in his focus story ''A Quick Fix,'' he flat-out refuses to fix the broken toy of a heartbroken little girl because he considers her breaking it "stupid." On the other hand, he spends his time enforcing justice and [[{{Superhero}} fighting crime]] in his hometown of Piltover, armed only with his masterpiece invention, the cannon-hammer hybrid known as the [[SwissArmyWeapon Mercury Hammer]]. Funny enough, the story notes that the majority of Piltover's citizens see him as an [[IdealHero ideal]] HumbleHero, only to be disappointed by the man's actual mannerisms.
5th Apr '17 7:00:36 PM ILikeRobots
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* ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends:'' Jayce, [[{{Magitek}} hextech]] [[GadgeteerGenius inventor extraordinaire]], is a hugely arrogant InsufferableGenius who tends to insult and look down upon those he considers less intelligent than him (that is, most people), and in his focus story ''A Quick Fix,'' he flat-out refuses to fix the broken toy of a heartbroken little girl because he considers her breaking it "stupid." On the other hand, he spends his time enforcing justice and [[{{Superhero fighting crime]] in his hometown of Piltover, armed only with his masterpiece invention, the cannon-hammer hybrid known as the [[SwissArmyWeapon Mercury Hammer]]. Funny enough, story notes that the majority of Piltover's citizens see him as an [[IdealHero ideal]] HumbleHero, only to be disappointed by the man's actual mannerisms.

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* ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends:'' Jayce, [[{{Magitek}} hextech]] [[GadgeteerGenius inventor extraordinaire]], is a hugely arrogant InsufferableGenius who tends to insult and look down upon those he considers less intelligent than him (that is, most people), and in his focus story ''A Quick Fix,'' he flat-out refuses to fix the broken toy of a heartbroken little girl because he considers her breaking it "stupid." On the other hand, he spends his time enforcing justice and [[{{Superhero [[{{Superhero}} fighting crime]] in his hometown of Piltover, armed only with his masterpiece invention, the cannon-hammer hybrid known as the [[SwissArmyWeapon Mercury Hammer]]. Funny enough, story notes that the majority of Piltover's citizens see him as an [[IdealHero ideal]] HumbleHero, only to be disappointed by the man's actual mannerisms.
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