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19th Feb '17 7:45:21 PM TheKaizerreich
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* [[BareFistedMonk Martial Arts]]: Flowing styles and high acrobatics tend to be the domain of good guys and monks; Pressure point poking, open-palmed jabbing, and other "quick and to the point" styles are used by the ArrogantKungFuGuy or EvilOverlord, but can be used by heroes with a [[ThouShallNotKill no kill code]] (in which case it's pragmatic) or the OldMaster (either so that his students will learn to react quickly, or because he lacks the [[WeakButSkilled strength]] or [[GlassCannon stamina]] to use more "heroic" techniques effectively). [[Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar Unless]] [[YourHeadAsplode Kenshiro]]. GoodOldFisticuffs are either way, unless the bad guy knows a style of any type, then it becomes the domain of the "everyman" good guy. SheFu is neutral, as it lends to [[CatFight catfighting]] between two parties.

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* [[BareFistedMonk Martial Arts]]: Flowing styles and high acrobatics tend to be the domain of good guys and monks; Pressure point poking, open-palmed jabbing, and other "quick and to the point" styles are used by the ArrogantKungFuGuy or EvilOverlord, but can be used by heroes with a [[ThouShallNotKill no kill code]] (in which case it's pragmatic) or the OldMaster (either so that his students will learn to react quickly, or because he lacks the [[WeakButSkilled strength]] or [[GlassCannon stamina]] to use more "heroic" techniques effectively). [[Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar Unless]] [[YourHeadAsplode Kenshiro]]. Styles like Russian "Systema", as used by the Spetsnaz, are for badasses, typically used by {{Combat Pragmatist}}s or morally questionable, possibly evil, characters (Systema, for example, is almost all about attacking the joints of the enemy to intentionally cripple them, which thus requires excellent knowledge but also ruthlessness to execute). GoodOldFisticuffs are either way, unless the bad guy knows a style of any type, then it becomes the domain of the "everyman" good guy. SheFu is neutral, as it lends to [[CatFight catfighting]] between two parties.
19th Feb '17 6:55:56 PM TheKaizerreich
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** Naginata, in particular, are [[NaginatasAreFeminine a typical weapon for women]] and tend to be used more by heroes, since the women in question are trained in its use to protect their family and home while their husbands are unavailable. This is part of why a YamatoNadeshiko is expected to [[SilkHidingSteel hide steel under her silk]].
10th Jan '17 5:00:34 AM PaulA
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* In the 1980 ''Film/FlashGordon'' film, Vultan, King of the Hawkmen, carries an evil-looking mace. However, he is one of the hero's closest allies.

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* In the 1980 ''Film/FlashGordon'' ''Film/{{Flash Gordon|1980}}'' film, Vultan, King of the Hawkmen, carries an evil-looking mace. However, he is one of the hero's closest allies.
23rd Oct '16 5:27:18 PM DustSnitch
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* [[DualWielding Multiple Swords]]: {{Badass}} but generally evil or AntiHero.

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* [[DualWielding Multiple Swords]]: {{Badass}} Badass but generally evil or AntiHero.



** Speaking of the {{BFS}}. Massive swords are usually a villainous weapon (used often by evil warlords or by TheBrute), but quite a few heroes crop up wielding them as well. A heroic BFS wielder is often a BarbarianHero, often an AntiHero, and just about always a BadAss. Since they typically look like no normal person could wield them, the use of such a weapon emphasizes a character's raw strength.

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** Speaking of the {{BFS}}. Massive swords are usually a villainous weapon (used often by evil warlords or by TheBrute), but quite a few heroes crop up wielding them as well. A heroic BFS wielder is often a BarbarianHero, often an AntiHero, and just about always a BadAss.badass. Since they typically look like no normal person could wield them, the use of such a weapon emphasizes a character's raw strength.



** [[GunsAkimbo Two Handguns]]: {{Badass}}

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** [[GunsAkimbo Two Handguns]]: {{Badass}}Badass.



* [[GatlingGood Gatling Guns]]: {{Badass}} (again, [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay Arnold]] [[Film/{{Predator}} or his friend]])

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* [[GatlingGood Gatling Guns]]: {{Badass}} Badass (again, [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay Arnold]] [[Film/{{Predator}} or his friend]])



* [[BladeBelowTheShoulder Wrist blades]] / [[WolverineClaws claws]]: Definitely well into dark {{Badass}} or [[NinetiesAntiHero antihero]] territory, if not outright AxCrazy evil.

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* [[BladeBelowTheShoulder Wrist blades]] / [[WolverineClaws claws]]: Definitely well into dark {{Badass}} badass or [[NinetiesAntiHero antihero]] territory, if not outright AxCrazy evil.



* LaserBlade: Always BadAss, specific alignment usually [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience determined by blade color]].

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* LaserBlade: Always BadAss, badass, specific alignment usually [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience determined by blade color]].



* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has {{badass}} and morally ambiguous Archer dual wielding, WorthyOpponent Assassin with a [[strike:[[EveryJapaneseSwordIsAKatana katana]]]] [[AvertedTrope nodachi]] which is close enough, heroic Saber with long swords, barbaric Berserker with an axe-sword-club (it's a giant piece of flint, basically), traitorous Caster using a special dagger and Lancer who is, at least, [[FriendlyEnemy good-natured even if he'll eventually have to stab you to death with his spear]].

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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has {{badass}} badass and morally ambiguous Archer dual wielding, WorthyOpponent Assassin with a [[strike:[[EveryJapaneseSwordIsAKatana katana]]]] [[AvertedTrope nodachi]] which is close enough, heroic Saber with long swords, barbaric Berserker with an axe-sword-club (it's a giant piece of flint, basically), traitorous Caster using a special dagger and Lancer who is, at least, [[FriendlyEnemy good-natured even if he'll eventually have to stab you to death with his spear]].
30th Sep '16 9:37:57 PM magnum12
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* [[DropTheHammer Hammers]]: More likely to be good than axes due to not overtly spilling blood, and normally used by TheBigGuy or dwarves. Sometimes shows up in the hands of brutish bad guys, though. Regular tool-style hammers being used as a WeaponOfChoice is usually the sign of AxCrazy.

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* [[DropTheHammer Hammers]]: More likely to be good than axes due to not overtly spilling blood, and normally used by TheBigGuy or dwarves. Also a popular weapon of choice for ThePaladin. Sometimes shows up in the hands of brutish bad guys, though. Regular tool-style hammers being used as a WeaponOfChoice is usually the sign of AxCrazy.
16th Sep '16 9:49:18 PM Kadorhal
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* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Gambit with a Staff? Good. Gambit with a knife? Bad. Warpath, Multiple Knives. Good. Spiral, Multiple Swords? Bad. Katana? Evil Samurai, unless it's {{Wolverine}} in one of his Japanese adventures. Dual Wielded Katana? {{Deadpool}}.

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* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Gambit with a Staff? Good. Gambit with a knife? Bad. Warpath, Multiple Knives. Good. Spiral, Multiple Swords? Bad. Katana? Evil Samurai, unless it's {{Wolverine}} in one of his Japanese adventures. Dual Wielded Katana? {{Deadpool}}.
SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}.



* Zig zagged in [Film/Watchmen].Nite Owl and Silk Spectre 2 are unarmed (good weapon/good guy). Rorsharch is also unarmed (good weapon/anti hero). The NYPD SWAT team uses CAR 15 rifles and the regular beat cops use Smith Wesson model 10 and model 15 revolvers (good weapon good guys), and the criminal exploded by Dr Manhattan uses a sawn off shotgun (evil weapon/bad guy). The Comedian (little bit of both) uses a Colt 1911 variant (good weapon) and an Ithaca 37 and a flame thrower (evil weapon). In his closet are seen a S & W 686 (good), a CAR15 (good) a HK91 and an HK MP5(coild go either way) the Franci SPAS12 is also in his closet (bad)
** Mooks often have hero guns. One of the muggers has a Colt detective special and the killer sent after Veidf had a S &W 586 (good weapon / bad guy). The national guard also have M1 Garand rifles but gun down unarmed protestors (good weapon/bad guy). Conversely WellIntentionedExtremist Veidt uses a Walther PPK to kill Moloch, whuch fits his moral ambiguity.




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* Zig zagged in ''Film/{{Watchmen}}''. Nite Owl and Silk Spectre 2 are unarmed (good weapon/good guy). Rorsharch is also unarmed (good weapon/anti hero). The NYPD SWAT team uses CAR-15 rifles and the regular beat cops use Smith Wesson Model 10 and Model 15 revolvers (good weapons for good guys), and the criminal exploded by Dr Manhattan uses a sawn-off shotgun (evil weapon/bad guy). The Comedian (little bit of both) uses a Colt 1911 variant (good weapon) and an Ithaca 37 and a flamethrower (evil weapon). In his closet are seen an S&W 686 (good), a CAR-15 (good) a [=HK91=], an HK [=MP5=] (could go either way) and a Franchi SPAS-12 (bad).
** Mooks often have hero guns. One of the muggers has a Colt Detective Special, and the killer sent after Veidf had a S&W 586 (good weapon/bad guy). The national guard also have M1 Garand rifles, but gun down unarmed protestors with them (good weapon/bad guy). Conversely, WellIntentionedExtremist Veidt uses a Walther PPK to kill Moloch, which fits his moral ambiguity.



** While Sadi is a good guy, Nyssians in general try to stay out of the fighting and may be seen as amoral.
** And from the same series, there's the Ulgo knife, which is generally described as one of the most unpleasantly mutilat-y weapons in the world. The Ulgos are good guys. (The knife is never described in detail. It does, however, posses both a serrated edge and a hook "for pulling things out" and is said to have been disgned to "hurt more coming out than going in, so...)

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** While Sadi is a good guy, Nyssians Nyissans in general try to stay out of the fighting and may be seen as amoral.
** And from the same series, there's the Ulgo knife, which is generally described as one of the most unpleasantly mutilat-y unpleasant weapons in the world. The Ulgos are good guys. (The The knife itself is never described in detail. It detail - it does, however, posses possess both a serrated edge and a hook "for pulling things out" out", and is said to have been disgned designed to "hurt more coming out than going in, so...)in".
29th Aug '16 7:08:11 AM JustRichard
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* Zig zagged in "Film/Watchmen".Nite Owl and Silk Spectre 2 are unarmed (good weapon/good guy). Rorsharch is also unarmed (good weapon/anti hero). The NYPD SWAT team uses CAR 15 rifles and the regular beat cops use Smith Wesson model 10 and model 15 revolvers (good weapon good guys), and the criminal exploded by Dr Manhattan uses a sawn off shotgun (evil weapon/bad guy). The Comedian (little bit of both) uses a Colt 1911 variant (good weapon) and an Ithaca 37 and a flame thrower (evil weapon). In his closet are seen a S & W 686 (good), a CAR15 (good) a HK91 and an HK MP5(coild go either way) the Franci SPAS12 is also in his closet (bad)

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* Zig zagged in "Film/Watchmen".[Film/Watchmen].Nite Owl and Silk Spectre 2 are unarmed (good weapon/good guy). Rorsharch is also unarmed (good weapon/anti hero). The NYPD SWAT team uses CAR 15 rifles and the regular beat cops use Smith Wesson model 10 and model 15 revolvers (good weapon good guys), and the criminal exploded by Dr Manhattan uses a sawn off shotgun (evil weapon/bad guy). The Comedian (little bit of both) uses a Colt 1911 variant (good weapon) and an Ithaca 37 and a flame thrower (evil weapon). In his closet are seen a S & W 686 (good), a CAR15 (good) a HK91 and an HK MP5(coild go either way) the Franci SPAS12 is also in his closet (bad)
29th Aug '16 7:06:39 AM JustRichard
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* Zig zahgws in ''Film/Watchmen''. The NYPD SWAT team uses CAR 15 rifles and the regular beat cops use Smith Wesson model 10 and model 15 revolvers (good weapon good guys), and the criminal exploded by Dr Manhattan uses a sawn off shotgun (evil weapon/bad guy). The Comedian (little bit of both) uses a Colt 1911 variant (good weapon) and an Ithaca 37 and a flame thrower (evil weapon). In his closet are seen a S & W 686 (good), a CAR15 (good) a HK91 and an HK MP5(coild go either way) the Franci SPAS12 is also in his closet (bad)

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* Zig zahgws zagged in ''Film/Watchmen''."Film/Watchmen".Nite Owl and Silk Spectre 2 are unarmed (good weapon/good guy). Rorsharch is also unarmed (good weapon/anti hero). The NYPD SWAT team uses CAR 15 rifles and the regular beat cops use Smith Wesson model 10 and model 15 revolvers (good weapon good guys), and the criminal exploded by Dr Manhattan uses a sawn off shotgun (evil weapon/bad guy). The Comedian (little bit of both) uses a Colt 1911 variant (good weapon) and an Ithaca 37 and a flame thrower (evil weapon). In his closet are seen a S & W 686 (good), a CAR15 (good) a HK91 and an HK MP5(coild go either way) the Franci SPAS12 is also in his closet (bad)
29th Aug '16 7:02:52 AM JustRichard
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* Zig zahgws in ''Film/Watchmen''. The NYPD SWAT team uses CAR 15 rifles and the regular beat cops use Smith Wesson model 10 and model 15 revolvers (good weapon good guys), and the criminal exploded by Dr Manhattan uses a sawn off shotgun (evil weapon/bad guy). The Comedian (little bit of both) uses a Colt 1911 variant (good weapon) and an Ithaca 37 and a flame thrower (evil weapon). In his closet are seen a S & W 686 (good), a CAR15 (good) a HK91 and an HK MP5(coild go either way) the Franci SPAS12 is also in his closet (bad)
** Mooks often have hero guns. One of the muggers has a Colt detective special and the killer sent after Veidf had a S &W 586 (good weapon / bad guy). The national guard also have M1 Garand rifles but gun down unarmed protestors (good weapon/bad guy). Conversely WellIntentionedExtremist Veidt uses a Walther PPK to kill Moloch, whuch fits his moral ambiguity.
6th Aug '16 2:28:58 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', this shows up in the two warrior races of the [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Covenant]]: The characteristic weapon of the ([[HeelFaceTurn ultimately]]) good Elites is the [[LaserBlade Energy Sword]]. The signature weapon of the Brutes is a big, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin brutish]] Gravity Hammer.

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* In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', this shows up in the two warrior races of the [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Covenant]]: The characteristic weapon of the ([[HeelFaceTurn ultimately]]) good Elites is the [[LaserBlade Energy Sword]]. The signature weapon of the viscous Brutes is a big, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin brutish]] Gravity Hammer.Hammer. This applies to the designs of rest of their weapons too; Elites tend to favor organically elegant curves, while Brutes favor making everything spiky.
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