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9th May '16 11:54:43 PM erforce
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* [[GatlingGood Gatling Guns]]: {{Badass}} (again, [[{{Terminator}} Arnold]] [[Film/{{Predator}} or his friend]])

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* [[GatlingGood Gatling Guns]]: {{Badass}} (again, [[{{Terminator}} [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay Arnold]] [[Film/{{Predator}} or his friend]])
7th Mar '16 1:14:36 PM intastiel
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** The Aiel are a ProudWarriorRace whose spears are central to their culture. In their view, spears are Good because they can be used to hunt for food, while swords are Evil because they are only used to attack other people. [[spoiler:When their predecessors split off from the AbsolutePacifist Da'Shain Aiel at the end of the [[TheTimeOfMyths Age of Legends]], they chose this compromise to make their collective BatmanGrabsAGun moment more bearable.]]

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** The Aiel are a ProudWarriorRace whose spears are central to their culture. In their view, spears are Good because they can be used to hunt for food, while swords are Evil because they are only used to attack other people. [[spoiler:When their predecessors split off from the AbsolutePacifist ActualPacifist Da'Shain Aiel at the end of the [[TheTimeOfMyths Age of Legends]], they chose this compromise to make their collective BatmanGrabsAGun moment more bearable.]]
7th Mar '16 1:14:05 PM intastiel
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* Interestingly {{PlayedWith}} in ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'':

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* Interestingly {{PlayedWith}} Zig-zagged in ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'':




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* A topic of discussion in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'':
** The Aiel are a ProudWarriorRace whose spears are central to their culture. In their view, spears are Good because they can be used to hunt for food, while swords are Evil because they are only used to attack other people. [[spoiler:When their predecessors split off from the AbsolutePacifist Da'Shain Aiel at the end of the [[TheTimeOfMyths Age of Legends]], they chose this compromise to make their collective BatmanGrabsAGun moment more bearable.]]
** TheBlacksmith Perrin Aybara carries an axe and a hammer, and eventually follows his mentor's advice to throw the axe away when he starts to enjoy using it on people. Subverted in that he has no qualms about caving people's skulls in with the hammer, although [[spoiler:later he and an [[MagicKnight Asha'man]] forge him a proper warhammer that's especially lethal against Shadowspawn, suiting the trope more closely]].
7th Mar '16 12:31:27 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* [[SimpleStaff Staves]]: Usually good, unless [[EvilSorcerer topped by a skull or jewel]] [[BoomStick from which magical/laser beams are shot]]. Unless [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Nanoha]].

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* [[SimpleStaff Staves]]: Usually good, unless [[EvilSorcerer topped by a skull or jewel]] [[BoomStick from which magical/laser beams are shot]]. Unless [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha Nanoha]].



* With all the {{Heel Face Turn}}s in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', the good guys end up not really following any rules on weapon alignment besides [[RuleOfCool whatever looks cool]]. Undeniably evil characters like [[BigBad Precia and Jail]] however, stick with mainstay villain weapons like whips and claws.

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* With all the {{Heel Face Turn}}s in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', the good guys end up not really following any rules on weapon alignment besides [[RuleOfCool whatever looks cool]]. Undeniably evil characters like [[BigBad Precia and Jail]] however, stick with mainstay villain weapons like whips and claws.
23rd Feb '16 12:37:53 AM shadowbeast
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* ''TabletopGame/1001 Science Fiction Weapons'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.

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* ''TabletopGame/1001 ''1001 Science Fiction Weapons'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.
23rd Feb '16 12:36:10 AM shadowbeast
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* ''TabletopGame/{{1001 Science Fiction Weapons}}'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{1001 ''TabletopGame/1001 Science Fiction Weapons}}'' Weapons'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.
23rd Feb '16 12:35:02 AM shadowbeast
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* ''TabletopGame/{{1001ScienceFictionWeapons}}'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{1001ScienceFictionWeapons}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{1001 Science Fiction Weapons}}'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.
23rd Feb '16 12:34:29 AM shadowbeast
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* ''TabletopGame/1001ScienceFictionWeapons'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.

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* ''TabletopGame/1001ScienceFictionWeapons'' ''TabletopGame/{{1001ScienceFictionWeapons}}'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.
23rd Feb '16 12:33:39 AM shadowbeast
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* ''TabletopGame/1001ScienceFictionWeapons'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.
24th Jan '16 6:06:28 PM Kadorhal
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** In ''VideoGame/AceCombat2'' the protagonist squadron (presumably, given the cover art) flies the Su-35 Super Flanker, while four of the ZOE aces use IRL-American jets.

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** In ''VideoGame/AceCombat2'' the protagonist squadron (presumably, given the cover art) flies the Su-35 Super Flanker, while four of the ZOE aces use IRL-American American jets.



** In ''VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar'' one of the enemy ace squadrons you fight flies the [[RareVehicles F-15S/MTD]].
** In ''VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar'', out of the 12 major ace squads you face in the game, only three (Gelb, Gault and Schwarze) play this trope straight.

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** In ''VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar'' one of the enemy ace squadrons you fight flies the [[RareVehicles F-15S/MTD]].
F-15 S/MTD]]; this is in part justified in that [[spoiler:they're actually infiltrators of your country's air force]], and their counterparts in the enemy fly Su-35s. For the final encounter, both come together to face you in prototype Sukhoi craft, while the player's squad is associated with the F-14A.
** In ''VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar'', out of the 12 major ace squads you face in the game, only three (Gelb, Gault and Schwarze) play this trope straight. This game also codified the series' trend where this trope is only played halfway, as the protagonist ends up being associated with an American jet (the F-15 in Cipher's case) while the final boss instead uses a completely fictional fighter (in this case the "ADFX-02").



** In ''VideoGame/AceCombatJointAssault'' Varcolac uses both Russian and Western planes.

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** In ''VideoGame/AceCombatJointAssault'' Varcolac uses both Russian and Western planes.planes; fittingly enough, they start as the allied Rigel squadron before defecting early on.
** ''VideoGame/AceCombatInfinity'' zigzags this in the campaign, where the initial flight lead for the Bone Arrows, Viper, flies a [=MiG-21=], while Omega and Bronco stick to the Eurofighter and F-16F, but the later addition Zebu flies the [=MiG-29=]. The player character Reaper, as usual, can fly whatever they want (with the suggested rental sets varying between American and Russian jets depending on the mission), but as with most other post-''X'' protagonists, rewards from ranking events have associated him with the F-22. Players in online can likewise use whatever they want, frequently leading to combinations of American, Russian, French, Swedish, Japanese, and fictional aircraft.



* Partially averted in ''VideoGame/WarcraftOrcsAndHumans'', where the human knights used flails despite being good guys. Aside from that, the Orcs use more savage-looking weapons than the humans.
* ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII''[='=]s [[UnholyHolySword Frost]][[EmpathicWeapon mourne]] makes it amply clear that it's evil. Terrifyingly serrated blade? Horrifying ornaments? Emits a [[EvilIsDeathlyCold nasty aura of ice and cold]]? The only way it could get any more ObviouslyEvil is if it was actually warning potential wielders that it's going to steal their soul... oh wait, it actually does that too! Shame Arthas had gone so far into the deep end at that point that he couldn't care less.

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* Partially averted in ''VideoGame/WarcraftOrcsAndHumans'', the first ''VideoGame/WarCraft'', where the human knights used flails despite being good guys. Aside from that, the Orcs use more savage-looking weapons than the humans.
* ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII''[='=]s
humans. ''Warcraft III''[='=]s [[UnholyHolySword Frost]][[EmpathicWeapon mourne]] makes it amply clear that it's evil. Terrifyingly serrated blade? Horrifying ornaments? Emits a [[EvilIsDeathlyCold nasty aura of ice and cold]]? The only way it could get any more ObviouslyEvil is if it was actually warning potential wielders that it's going to steal their soul... oh wait, it actually does that too! Shame Arthas had gone so far into the deep end at that point that he couldn't care less.
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