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7th Jul '16 10:25:05 AM Willbyr
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* King Fahn and Lord Ashram of the first ''RecordOfLodossWar'' anime wield swords of good and evil, respectively, that grow stronger the closer they are to each other.

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* King Fahn and Lord Ashram of the first ''RecordOfLodossWar'' ''Roleplay/RecordOfLodossWar'' anime wield swords of good and evil, respectively, that grow stronger the closer they are to each other.
28th Jun '16 11:53:54 PM Kadorhal
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** In ''VideoGame/AceCombat2'' the protagonist squadron (presumably, given the cover art) flies the Su-35 Super Flanker, while four of the ZOE aces use American jets.

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** In ''VideoGame/AceCombat2'' the protagonist squadron (presumably, given the cover art) flies the Su-35 Super Flanker, while four of the ZOE aces use American jets.jets (the last uses one of the series' first two fictional fighters). [[VideoGame/AceCombatAssaultHorizonLegacy The remake]] switches this around, where the protagonist is now, as always, associated with the F-22, but ZOE remains free of Russian craft, and only one of the four other important ace squadrons encountered uses non-NATO aircraft.



** ''VideoGame/AceCombat04ShatteredSkies'' plays this straight as can be for the most important pilots on both sides, where the player Mobius One is associated with the F-22 and his rivals throughout the game in Yellow Squadron use the Su-37, but other allied pilots zigzag this, particularly in the missions that have the most impact on the story - there can be a mix of [=MiGs-29s=] and Su-35s alongside F-16s and F/A-18s.



** In ''VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar'', out of the 12 major ace squads you face in the game, only three (Gelb, Gault and Schwarze) play this trope straight. This game also codified the series' trend where this trope is only played halfway, as the protagonist ends up being associated with an American jet (the F-15 in Cipher's case) while the final boss instead uses a completely fictional fighter (in this case the "ADFX-02").

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** In ''VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar'', out of the 12 major ace squads you face in the game, only three (Gelb, Gault (Gelb's Su-37s, Gault's Su-47s and Schwarze) Schwarze's [=MiG-31s=]) play this trope straight.straight; the rest mostly use American jets (such as Grun's [=F/A-18=]s, Silber's F-4 and F-16s, or Wizard's YF-23s and F-16XLs) with the others likewise focusing on other Western nations like France (Espada Two's Rafale) and Sweden (Espada One's Draken, Indigo's Gripens). This game also codified the series' trend where this trope is only played halfway, as the protagonist ends up being associated with an American jet (the F-15 in Cipher's case) while the final boss instead uses a completely fictional fighter (in this case the "ADFX-02").
26th Jun '16 6:47:29 PM Caspoi
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* In ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' Sauron is depicted using a mace, and his lieutenant, the Witch-king, swings an EpicFlail. His ancient teacher, Morgoth, fought with a warhammer.

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* In ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' Sauron is depicted using a mace, and his lieutenant, the Witch-king, swings an EpicFlail.uses one as well. His ancient teacher, Morgoth, fought with a warhammer.
17th Jun '16 11:56:11 PM Doug86
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* ''ComicBook/{{X-men}}'': Gambit with a Staff? Good. Gambit with a knife? Bad. Warpath, Multiple Knives. Good. Spiral, Multiple Swords? Bad. Katana? Evil Samurai, unless it's {{Wolverine}} in one of his Japanese adventures. Dual Wielded Katana? {{Deadpool}}.

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* ''ComicBook/{{X-men}}'': ''ComicBook/XMen'': Gambit with a Staff? Good. Gambit with a knife? Bad. Warpath, Multiple Knives. Good. Spiral, Multiple Swords? Bad. Katana? Evil Samurai, unless it's {{Wolverine}} in one of his Japanese adventures. Dual Wielded Katana? {{Deadpool}}.
9th May '16 11:54:43 PM erforce
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* [[GatlingGood Gatling Guns]]: {{Badass}} (again, [[{{Terminator}} Arnold]] [[Film/{{Predator}} or his friend]])

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* [[GatlingGood Gatling Guns]]: {{Badass}} (again, [[{{Terminator}} [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay Arnold]] [[Film/{{Predator}} or his friend]])
7th Mar '16 1:14:36 PM intastiel
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** The Aiel are a ProudWarriorRace whose spears are central to their culture. In their view, spears are Good because they can be used to hunt for food, while swords are Evil because they are only used to attack other people. [[spoiler:When their predecessors split off from the AbsolutePacifist Da'Shain Aiel at the end of the [[TheTimeOfMyths Age of Legends]], they chose this compromise to make their collective BatmanGrabsAGun moment more bearable.]]

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** The Aiel are a ProudWarriorRace whose spears are central to their culture. In their view, spears are Good because they can be used to hunt for food, while swords are Evil because they are only used to attack other people. [[spoiler:When their predecessors split off from the AbsolutePacifist ActualPacifist Da'Shain Aiel at the end of the [[TheTimeOfMyths Age of Legends]], they chose this compromise to make their collective BatmanGrabsAGun moment more bearable.]]
7th Mar '16 1:14:05 PM intastiel
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* Interestingly {{PlayedWith}} in ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'':

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* Interestingly {{PlayedWith}} Zig-zagged in ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'':




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* A topic of discussion in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'':
** The Aiel are a ProudWarriorRace whose spears are central to their culture. In their view, spears are Good because they can be used to hunt for food, while swords are Evil because they are only used to attack other people. [[spoiler:When their predecessors split off from the AbsolutePacifist Da'Shain Aiel at the end of the [[TheTimeOfMyths Age of Legends]], they chose this compromise to make their collective BatmanGrabsAGun moment more bearable.]]
** TheBlacksmith Perrin Aybara carries an axe and a hammer, and eventually follows his mentor's advice to throw the axe away when he starts to enjoy using it on people. Subverted in that he has no qualms about caving people's skulls in with the hammer, although [[spoiler:later he and an [[MagicKnight Asha'man]] forge him a proper warhammer that's especially lethal against Shadowspawn, suiting the trope more closely]].
7th Mar '16 12:31:27 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* [[SimpleStaff Staves]]: Usually good, unless [[EvilSorcerer topped by a skull or jewel]] [[BoomStick from which magical/laser beams are shot]]. Unless [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Nanoha]].

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* [[SimpleStaff Staves]]: Usually good, unless [[EvilSorcerer topped by a skull or jewel]] [[BoomStick from which magical/laser beams are shot]]. Unless [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha Nanoha]].



* With all the {{Heel Face Turn}}s in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', the good guys end up not really following any rules on weapon alignment besides [[RuleOfCool whatever looks cool]]. Undeniably evil characters like [[BigBad Precia and Jail]] however, stick with mainstay villain weapons like whips and claws.

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* With all the {{Heel Face Turn}}s in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', the good guys end up not really following any rules on weapon alignment besides [[RuleOfCool whatever looks cool]]. Undeniably evil characters like [[BigBad Precia and Jail]] however, stick with mainstay villain weapons like whips and claws.
23rd Feb '16 12:37:53 AM shadowbeast
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* ''TabletopGame/1001 Science Fiction Weapons'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.

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* ''TabletopGame/1001 ''1001 Science Fiction Weapons'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.
23rd Feb '16 12:36:10 AM shadowbeast
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* ''TabletopGame/{{1001 Science Fiction Weapons}}'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{1001 ''TabletopGame/1001 Science Fiction Weapons}}'' Weapons'' for D20, has a few weapons that are usually used by evil, such as certain of the rays in the pulp weapons chapter, the Rod of the Lawgiver, and most of the radioactive weapons (well if not evil, then certainly [[AxCrazy bat guano crazy]], given that you're holding a piece of radioactive material in your hands to hit someone with). Most of the weapons, however, are meant to be accessible, dependent on the situation, to the PCs. Scythes is one particular example; in that there are many scythes which one can understand a farmer owning, because their [[EnhancedArchaicWeapon technological enhancements]] may actually ''improve'' their ability to reap wheat (although, [[FridgeLogic why are you reaping wheat by hand when you can economically create force field and superchilled blades?]]). However, the superheated scythe sets wheat on fire, so it cannot be used for harvest; it is stated that if you see one of these on the wall then the person is probably a villain.
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