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29th Apr '16 4:31:53 PM nombretomado
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* Played with in the ''CaptainPlanet'' episode that dealt with HIV. While the teenager who contracted it got it through a blood transfusion, his doctor also mentions how shared needles and unprotected sex can also be how the disease is contracted. The episode still calls out people for spreading misinformation on HIV-positive people in general, indicating that all of them deserve the same understanding.

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* Played with in the ''CaptainPlanet'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Captain Planet|and the Planeteers}}'' episode that dealt with HIV. While the teenager who contracted it got it through a blood transfusion, his doctor also mentions how shared needles and unprotected sex can also be how the disease is contracted. The episode still calls out people for spreading misinformation on HIV-positive people in general, indicating that all of them deserve the same understanding.
23rd Feb '16 4:42:36 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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No RealLife examples, please, as they are just an invitation to an EditWar.

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No RealLife examples, please, as they are just an invitation to an EditWar.Administrivia/EditWar.
17th Jan '16 11:10:41 AM nombretomado
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* ''LawAndOrderSVU'' runs on this trope. Arguably one of the show's [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped greatest strengths]] is exploring just how arbitrary the idea of a "good victim" is, since even the "good" victims will almost invariably be portrayed by the rapists' defense attorney as asking for it in ''some'' way. Alternately, the protagonists will go out of their way to get justice for "bad" victims; in one episode, the ADA has to battle it out with the defense attorney over ''the way rape is defined by the law'', since the victim is a male stripper who was raped by three women, and the law's definition of rape as forcible penetration does not encompass what they did to him.

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* ''LawAndOrderSVU'' ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' runs on this trope. Arguably one of the show's [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped greatest strengths]] is exploring just how arbitrary the idea of a "good victim" is, since even the "good" victims will almost invariably be portrayed by the rapists' defense attorney as asking for it in ''some'' way. Alternately, the protagonists will go out of their way to get justice for "bad" victims; in one episode, the ADA has to battle it out with the defense attorney over ''the way rape is defined by the law'', since the victim is a male stripper who was raped by three women, and the law's definition of rape as forcible penetration does not encompass what they did to him.
13th Jan '16 3:35:57 PM DrOO7
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* Mentioned on ''Series/TheGoldenGirls'', while Rose waits for the results of her HIV test, snapping at Blanche, "You must have slept with hundreds of men!". When Blanche angrily demands to know if that means that ''she'' should be the one worrying, Rose further steps in it by claiming, "I'm a good person." Blanche tells her "AIDS is not a "bad person" disease, it is not God punishing people for their sins!"
13th Jan '16 2:40:47 PM DrOO7
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* Cited in ''Film/{{Malice}}''. When a woman sues her doctor for removing her ovaries due to his mistaken belief that they were necrotic and would have killed her via sepsis, his lawyer describes her, "A lovely young woman married to a handsome young man. He's an English teacher, she's a hospital volunteer. They buy a big old house and want to fix it up and fill it with children. That is a Norma Rockwell painting and you slashed it to bits with your scalpel." But when her husband discovers that she'd been cheating on him, he goes to the doctor and urges him to fight against the settlement, pointing out that the large amount was because "The jury thought they were dealing with Snow White. What if Snow White were sleeping with her lawyer?".
4th Dec '15 10:04:57 PM FF32
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* Rain "daughter of Richard" Pryor wrote in ''{{Jokes My Father Never Taught Me}}'' that her father blamed her for her teenage sexual assault due to the way she dressed

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* Rain "daughter of Richard" [[Creator/RichardPryor Richard]]" Pryor wrote in ''{{Jokes My Father Never Taught Me}}'' that her father blamed her for her teenage sexual assault due to the way she dressed
7th Nov '15 10:44:42 AM MagBas
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Where the UnfortunateImplications crop up is when someone dismisses another persons pain and/or disease (physical or mental) because of how they got the pain.
18th Oct '15 3:41:42 PM DrOO7
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* On ''Series/SexAndTheCity'' after Samantha developed breast cancer, she asked her doctor why it had happened, given that she had always taken good care of her health. When he replied that certain lifestyle choices put some women at higher risk (not having children, etc), she explodes at him and accuses him of thinking that "I'm a whore who deserves to get cancer!". When she seeks out another doctor, she chats with another woman who reveals that she is a nun--someone else who has never had children--and realizes that she ''isn't'' being punished for some unknown sin.
11th Oct '15 9:03:07 PM DrOO7
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* During ''Series/GeneralHospital'''s AIDS storyline, Stone Cates often ran into people with this attitude--AJ Quartermaine expressed annoyance at how much attention was being paid to AIDS research while [[JerkassHasAPoint other equally deadly illnesses didn't receive nearly as much support]] (additionally, having just spent the past year watching his mother battle breast cancer, it's understandable he'd be ticked off at the lack of funds dedicated to fighting it). Unfortunately, he promptly undermined his point with his suggestion that those with AIDS had done something stupid to get it (drugs, unsafe sex), while those with the other diseases presumably got it through no fault of their own. Later in the storyline, Stone ran into two women with a similar mindset--while they had nothing but sympathy for children who were afflicted, they had none for people like him, who'd contracted it via unsafe sex.
2nd Oct '15 4:04:17 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Eastenders}}'' Kat's uncle who raped and impregnated her when she was 13 tried to blame her for what happened by pointing out the way she dressed and that she wore heavy makeup. She responded by pointing out that she walked around in her mother's high heels when she was a toddler and asked if she was asking for rape then as well.
* There's a bizarre variation on this in ''{{Oz}}'' when homophobic Dino Ortolani becomes more sympathetic to a dying AIDS patient on discovering he is not gay as he assumes but got AIDS from taking heroin. There is also a storyline involving Tobias Beecher deciding that a teenage boy is deserving of being raped due to him being convicted of raping his ex.

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* ''{{Eastenders}}'' ''Series/{{Eastenders}}'' Kat's uncle who raped and impregnated her when she was 13 tried to blame her for what happened by pointing out the way she dressed and that she wore heavy makeup. She responded by pointing out that she walked around in her mother's high heels when she was a toddler and asked if she was asking for rape then as well.
* There's a bizarre variation on this in ''{{Oz}}'' ''Series/{{Oz}}'' when homophobic Dino Ortolani becomes more sympathetic to a dying AIDS patient on discovering he is not gay as he assumes but got AIDS from taking heroin. There is also a storyline involving Tobias Beecher deciding that a teenage boy is deserving of being raped due to him being convicted of raping his ex.
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