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9th May '16 9:29:11 PM Scorntex
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** Several Autobots come off this way in the course of the IDW run of comics. Repugnus is underhanded, ruthless, argumentative, and more than willing to resort to violence, but he's an Autobot special operations agent who does jobs that those with more delicate morals could barely consider.

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** Several Autobots come off this way in the course of the IDW run of comics. Repugnus is underhanded, ruthless, argumentative, and more than willing to resort to violence, but he's an Autobot special operations agent all the same - just one who does jobs that those with more delicate morals could barely consider.



** The Dinobots. They're a rag-tag bunch of jerks who don't really like ''anyone'', and occasionally go off to do their own thing. None of them like Optimus. But they like Megatron and his lot even ''less''.
** The Wreckers probably count. Their first appearance involves them planning to lure several prominent Decepticons into a trap and kill them in any way they can, including harpoons or hammers to the head.



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* Slag, from the original G1 ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'', is incredibly mean and nasty, will even attack his own comrades if they irritate him . . . and an Autobot. No one is even sure why he is even an Autobot at all, though it is implied here and there (memory fails as to specifics) that it is loyalty to his Dinobot teammates that keeps him around.
** Hell, all the Dinobots with the exception of Swoop and Sludge. None of them really like Optimus Prime for starters. Grimlock himself would gladly [[TheStarscream pull a Starscream]] if he could get away with it.
** Cross-universal consensus on this is that the Dinobots consider Optimus "soft", which usually results in Prime demonstrating this trope [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority on Grimlock's head]]. That doesn't mean they consider a tyrannical dictatorship under Megatron or wanton murder to be good ideas.
** Similarly, there's the snobby, blunt, somewhat unhealthily violent Sunstreaker--he means well, being an Autobot, but is unpleasant and kind of a jerk to everyone, even his twin brother Sideswipe.
** Superion is the Autobot's first CombiningMecha, but most of the time he's shown as a violent, thundering titan, more unleashed than commanded. Yet he still very much aims to protect innocent life, given one of his lines is "No more, Bruticus! No more harm will come to the humans!"
** As noted on the Wiki/TFWiki itself: while he's charming and charismatic, we can't forget that he's a "Liar. Cheater. Compulsive gambler. Meet heroic Autobot Smokescreen, kids!"
** Primus, {{God}}-ancestor of all Cybertronians who is in the background of every subseries and universe, exhibits this quite well. His goal is to ensure that the multiverse is still here tomorrow, and will often make life quite difficult or unpleasant for mortals in the process if it is necessary for the greater good.
*** It should be noted that most continuities, including the first he was created in, Primus essentially created the entire Cybertronian race to serve as nothing more than cannon fodder against Unicron.

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* Slag, from the original G1 ''{{Transformers}}'', is incredibly mean and nasty, will even attack his own comrades if they irritate him . . . and an Autobot. No one is even sure why he is even an Autobot at all, though it is implied here and there (memory fails as to specifics) that it is loyalty to his Dinobot teammates that keeps him around.
** Hell, all the Dinobots with the exception of Swoop and Sludge. None of them really like Optimus Prime for starters. Grimlock himself would gladly [[TheStarscream pull a Starscream]] if he could get away with it.
** Cross-universal consensus on this is that the Dinobots consider Optimus "soft", which usually results in Prime demonstrating this trope [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority on Grimlock's head]]. That doesn't mean they consider a tyrannical dictatorship under Megatron or wanton murder to be good ideas.
** Similarly, there's the snobby, blunt, somewhat unhealthily violent Sunstreaker--he means well, being an Autobot, but is unpleasant and kind of a jerk to everyone, even his twin brother Sideswipe.
** Superion is the Autobot's first CombiningMecha, but most of the time he's shown as a violent, thundering titan, more unleashed than commanded. Yet he still very much aims to protect innocent life, given one of his lines is "No more, Bruticus! No more harm will come to the humans!"
** As noted on the Wiki/TFWiki itself: while he's charming and charismatic, we can't forget that he's a "Liar. Cheater. Compulsive gambler. Meet heroic Autobot Smokescreen, kids!"



* Primus, {{God}}-ancestor of all Cybertronians in ''{{Transformers}}'' who is in the background of every subseries and universe, exhibits this quite well. His goal is to ensure that the multiverse is still here tomorrow, and will often make life quite difficult or unpleasant for mortals in the process if it is necessary for the greater good.
6th May '16 7:04:54 AM bificommander
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* The angels in ''Maxwell the Demon'' run a CelestialBureaucracy and, while working for good, are as dickish as the demons, if not worse.
-->'''Demon:''' Oh, sorry. Go on through. No hard feelings, ey?
-->'''Angel:''' [muttering] First against the wall [[CaughtUpInTheRapture when the Rapture comes]].
6th May '16 6:05:38 AM aye_amber
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* Zero from ''VideoGame/MegaManX''. He was GoodIsNotSoft for the first three games, but after [[MegaManX4 he has to kill Iris]], he goes through a HeroicBSOD and adapts a JerkassFacade.

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* Zero from ''VideoGame/MegaManX''. He was GoodIsNotSoft for the first three games, but after [[MegaManX4 [[VideoGame/MegaManX4 he has to kill Iris]], he goes through a HeroicBSOD and adapts a JerkassFacade.
5th May '16 3:25:48 AM G02
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* Hakumen from ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'': One of the six legendary heroes who stopped the Black Beast. Is a dick. Not a total one, though.

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* Hakumen from ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'': One of the six legendary heroes who stopped the Black Beast. Is a dick. Not a total one, though. [[He's an alternate timeline version of Jin, listed below. He's better than Jin in some ways and worse in others.]]
4th May '16 11:02:44 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Much to everyone's surprise, [[spoiler: '''Eva''']] turns out to be this in ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi''.

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* Much to everyone's surprise, [[spoiler: '''Eva''']] turns out to be this in ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi''.''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry''.
22nd Apr '16 10:50:18 AM Kakai
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22nd Apr '16 10:50:07 AM Kakai
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* Karl of ''Literature/TheDinosaurLords'', while certainly willing to help and a good and responsible commander, has no qualms against letting people brutally lynch a knight who's been raiding their towns.

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* Karl Karyl of ''Literature/TheDinosaurLords'', while certainly willing to help and a good and responsible commander, has no qualms against letting people brutally lynch a knight who's been raiding their towns.
22nd Apr '16 10:30:48 AM Kakai
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* Karl of ''Literature/TheDinosaurLords'', while certainly willing to help and a good and responsible commander, has no qualms against letting people brutally lynch a knight who's been raiding their towns.
16th Apr '16 9:48:09 AM PaulA
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* In ''Literature/PhoenixRising'' and the rest of the Literature/JasonWood universe: how Khoros operates. He misdirects and uses everyone mercilessly. Though he usually is courteous.

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* In ''Literature/PhoenixRising'' and the rest of the Literature/JasonWood universe: ''Literature/TheBalancedSword'', how Khoros operates. He misdirects and uses everyone mercilessly. Though he usually is courteous.
6th Apr '16 4:14:06 AM Morgenthaler
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* All SinCity heroes with the exception of Wallace, who was very polite.
* {{Spider-Man}} had his moments in his early teenage days. He would often act very cocky and could be a bit of a jerk towards fellow heroes at times. He mellowed out a lot more once he came into adulthood.

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* All SinCity ''ComicBook/SinCity'' heroes with the exception of Wallace, who was very polite.
* {{Spider-Man}} ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': Spidey had his moments in his early teenage days. He would often act very cocky and could be a bit of a jerk towards fellow heroes at times. He mellowed out a lot more once he came into adulthood.
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