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17th Apr '17 4:39:47 AM plcthecd
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* Wander from ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder'' [[ZigZaggingTrope goes both ways]], with the title character aware that evil beings exists but doesn't stop him from attempting to befriend them anyway. Even though later on, he comes to terms that some villains like Dr. Screwball and Lord Dominator aren't worth befriending. In the latter's case, Wander is insistent in the second season finale [[spoiler: in reforming Dominator, despite his full attempts, he finally gave up after Sylvia persuades him to stop

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* Wander from ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder'' [[ZigZaggingTrope goes both ways]], with the title character aware that evil beings exists but doesn't stop him from attempting to befriend them anyway. Even though later on, he comes to terms that some villains like Dr. Screwball and Lord Dominator aren't worth befriending. In the latter's case, Wander is insistent in the second season finale [[spoiler: in reforming Dominator, despite his full attempts, he finally gave up after Sylvia persuades him to stopstop.]]
17th Apr '17 4:39:30 AM plcthecd
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* Wander from ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder'' [[ZigZaggingTrope goes both ways]], in that Wander is aware that evil beings exists but still befriends them anyway. Even though he knows that some villains like Dr. Screwball and Lord Dominator aren't worth befriending. In the latter's case, Wander is insistent in the second season finale [[spoiler: in reforming Dominator, despite his full attempts.]]

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* Wander from ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder'' [[ZigZaggingTrope goes both ways]], in that Wander is with the title character aware that evil beings exists but still befriends doesn't stop him from attempting to befriend them anyway. Even though later on, he knows comes to terms that some villains like Dr. Screwball and Lord Dominator aren't worth befriending. In the latter's case, Wander is insistent in the second season finale [[spoiler: in reforming Dominator, despite his full attempts.]]attempts, he finally gave up after Sylvia persuades him to stop
29th Mar '17 3:32:02 PM plcthecd
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* Wander from ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder'' [[ZigZaggingTrope goes both ways]], in that Wander is aware that evil beings exists but still befriends them anyway. Even though he knows that some villains like Dr. Screwball and Lord Dominator aren't worth befriending. In the latter's case, Wander is insistent in the second season finale [[spoiler: in reforming Dominator, despite his full attempts.]]
26th Mar '17 4:24:25 PM StFan
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* After being put in charge of Hell in ''Comicbook/TheSandman'', Remiel proclaims that the purpose of Hell shall no longer be punishment, but purification with the aim of redemption. The demons of Hell will no longer punish you for punishment's sake, or for their own pleasure, or because that's what demons do. They will punish you for purpose, for your own good, and because they ''care''. As one of the damned comments, having redemption dangled in front of your nose at the end of it all only makes it ''worse''.

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* After being put in charge of Hell in ''Comicbook/TheSandman'', ''ComicBook/TheSandman'', Remiel proclaims that the purpose of Hell shall no longer be punishment, but purification with the aim of redemption. The demons of Hell will no longer punish you for punishment's sake, or for their own pleasure, or because that's what demons do. They will punish you for purpose, for your own good, and because they ''care''. As one of the damned comments, having redemption dangled in front of your nose at the end of it all only makes it ''worse''.



-->'''Lawyer''': You'll have to forgive my wife. She was a triathlete champion at high school so she never had to endure the reality that teenagers don't need a reason to look down on others.
* For ''Comicbook/{{Shazam}}'''s Billy Batson, this flaw seems to exist across multiple continuities: he's willing to work with, or at least support, evil people because he's an [[ChildrenAreInnocent innocent child]] who's powers are a direct result of being [[IncorruptiblePurePureness one of the purest souls on Earth]]. In the [[Comicbook/SupermanBatman mainstream universe]], this happened when Comicbook/LexLuthor became [[PresidentEvil president]]; in ''Comicbook/KingdomCome,'' Luthor basically brainwashes him into an evil [[TheAtoner Atoner]]; in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs,'' he's willing to follow an increasingly KnightTemplar version of Franchise/{{Superman}} ([[spoiler:and gets killed for finally saying he's gone too far]]), etc.

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-->'''Lawyer''': -->'''Lawyer:''' You'll have to forgive my wife. She was a triathlete champion at high school so she never had to endure the reality that teenagers don't need a reason to look down on others.
* For ''Comicbook/{{Shazam}}'''s ''ComicBook/{{Shazam}}'''s Billy Batson, this flaw seems to exist across multiple continuities: he's willing to work with, or at least support, evil people because he's an [[ChildrenAreInnocent innocent child]] who's powers are a direct result of being [[IncorruptiblePurePureness one of the purest souls on Earth]]. In the [[Comicbook/SupermanBatman mainstream universe]], this happened when Comicbook/LexLuthor became [[PresidentEvil president]]; in ''Comicbook/KingdomCome,'' Luthor basically brainwashes him into an evil [[TheAtoner Atoner]]; in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs,'' he's willing to follow an increasingly KnightTemplar version of Franchise/{{Superman}} ([[spoiler:and gets killed for finally saying he's gone too far]]), etc.



* [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Fluttershy]] in ''[[TheNuptialverse Post Nuptials]]'' could not understand why a creature like Discord could be so cruel and sadistic. [[spoiler: Of course, the [[HilariousInHindsight fanfic was written before season 3.]]]]

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* [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Fluttershy]] in ''[[TheNuptialverse Post Nuptials]]'' could not understand why a creature like Discord could be so cruel and sadistic. [[spoiler: Of [[spoiler:Of course, the [[HilariousInHindsight fanfic was written before season 3.]]]]



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-->'''Sawyer''': ''She'' [Darla] was your "little angel"?
-->'''Danny''': She said she wanted to help us.
-->'''Tilly''': [[WhatTheHellHero And you believed her?!]]

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-->'''Sawyer''': -->'''Sawyer:''' ''She'' [Darla] was your "little angel"?
-->'''Danny''':
angel"?\\
'''Danny:'''
She said she wanted to help us.
-->'''Tilly''':
us.\\
'''Tilly:'''
[[WhatTheHellHero And you believed her?!]]



** In the ExpandedUniverse (Legends canon), this is a problem for several species who can't wrap their heads around the ideas behind Imperial ideals of DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans and power for power's sake. A species who got hit hard by this were the Miraluka, a species of {{BlindSeer}}s who had no functioning eyes and saw everything through the Force. They had a comprehension of evil, but not to the degree the Empire could bring. As a result, the Empire hunted them for their inherent Sensitivity and the FantasticRacism against any non-humans, forcing many of them to masquerade as blind humans to escape persecution.

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** In the ExpandedUniverse (Legends canon), this is a problem for several species who can't wrap their heads around the ideas behind Imperial ideals of DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans and power for power's sake. A species who got hit hard by this were the Miraluka, a species of {{BlindSeer}}s {{Blind Seer}}s who had has no functioning eyes and saw see everything through the Force. They had a comprehension of evil, but not to the degree the Empire could bring. As a result, the Empire hunted them for their inherent Sensitivity and the FantasticRacism against any non-humans, forcing many of them to masquerade as blind humans to escape persecution.



* In ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', the heroes had a lot of trouble wrapping their heads around the fact that [[spoiler:Admiral Marcus]] was a corrupt traitor.

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* In ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', the heroes had a lot of trouble wrapping their heads around the fact that [[spoiler:Admiral Marcus]] was is a corrupt traitor.



--->'''Van Dough''': Where's the money?!\\
'''Mr. Rich''': In banks. Where else?

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--->'''Van Dough''': Dough:''' Where's the money?!\\
'''Mr. Rich''': Rich:''' In banks. Where else?



* In Disney's live action ''[[Film/Cinderella2015 Cinderella]]'', when Cinderella can no longer take anymore from Lady Tremaine, she breaks down, asking her "Why? Why are you so cruel? I don't understand it. I've tried to be kind to you."

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* In Disney's live action ''[[Film/Cinderella2015 Cinderella]]'', ''Film/{{Cinderella|2015}}'', when Cinderella can no longer take anymore from Lady Tremaine, she breaks down, asking her "Why? Why are you so cruel? I don't understand it. I've tried to be kind to you."



-->'''High Kryten:''' The poor wretch, he has a faulty gun! He's accidentally shot me five times! [[ActualPacifist Oh, how I love him!]]
-->'''High Cat:''' [[TooDumbToLive Brother, there is a grievous fault with thine weapon.]] It [[YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe keepeth]] shooting people.

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-->'''High Kryten:''' The poor wretch, he has a faulty gun! He's accidentally shot me five times! [[ActualPacifist Oh, how I love him!]]
-->'''High
him!]]\\
'''High
Cat:''' [[TooDumbToLive Brother, there is a grievous fault with thine weapon.]] It [[YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe keepeth]] shooting people.



* The ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'' episode "Countrycide"[[note]]which was basically an [[AscendedFanFic Ascended]] ''Torchwood[=/=]Franchise/TheTexasChainsawMassacre'' FusionFic, and much better than it sounds[[/note]] ends with Gwen confronting the main villain with a simple question:
-->'''Gwen:''' Why? Why would you wake up one morning and decide that this is what you want to do?
-->'''The villain:''' Because it made me happy.

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* The ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'' episode "Countrycide"[[note]]which was basically an [[AscendedFanFic Ascended]] ''Torchwood[=/=]Franchise/TheTexasChainsawMassacre'' ''Torchwood''/''Franchise/TheTexasChainsawMassacre'' FusionFic, and much better than it sounds[[/note]] ends with Gwen confronting the main villain with a simple question:
-->'''Gwen:''' Why? Why would you wake up one morning and decide that this is what you want to do?
-->'''The
do?\\
'''The
villain:''' Because it made me happy.



** In Season 2, Hank becomes an {{Expy}} for Marge from the original movie, giving a brief CallBack to her speech about this trope from the film (see Film - Live Action, above) that echoes her word-for-word in several places.

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** In Season 2, Hank becomes an {{Expy}} for Marge from the original movie, giving a brief CallBack to her speech about this trope from the film (see Film - Live Action, Films -- Live-Action, above) that echoes her word-for-word in several places.



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** In the episode "The Saint," Gumball does a bunch of horrible things to Alan (including framing him for cheating on Carmen and having his parents [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment tortured by a clown]]) all for the sake of trying to find ''something'' that upsets him. Not only does Alan forgive Gumball [[TurnTheOtherCheek right off the bat]], but he views Gumball's actions in such a ridiculously optimistic light that he doesn't even believe he did anything wrong.
** In the episode "The Wicked," Darwin repeatedly insists that Mrs. Robinson ''must'' have some redeeming quality or FreudianExcuse and tries to find it, despite all evidence that to the contrary. He only realizes he's wrong and Mrs. Robinson is just pure evil when she sees him choking and does nothing but give a PsychoticSmirk and watch. From there on out, his motive changes from trying to prove that she has some good in her to simply trying to get her locked up.

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** In the episode "The Saint," Saint", Gumball does a bunch of horrible things to Alan (including framing him for cheating on Carmen and having his parents [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment tortured by a clown]]) all for the sake of trying to find ''something'' that upsets him. Not only does Alan forgive Gumball [[TurnTheOtherCheek right off the bat]], but he views Gumball's actions in such a ridiculously optimistic light that he doesn't even believe he did anything wrong.
** In the episode "The Wicked," Wicked", Darwin repeatedly insists that Mrs. Robinson ''must'' have some redeeming quality or FreudianExcuse and tries to find it, despite all evidence that to the contrary. He only realizes he's wrong and Mrs. Robinson is just pure evil when she sees him choking and does nothing but give a PsychoticSmirk and watch. From there on out, his motive changes from trying to prove that she has some good in her to simply trying to get her locked up.



* [[DumbIsGood Hego]] from ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' insists on believing that his sister [[BlackSheep Shego]] still has good in her, even after she directly backstabs him. To be fair he was right, she won't be doing a HeelFaceTurn anytime soon, but for all her evil Shego couldn't fight against her family, as Dr. Drakken pointed out they defeated her suspiciously easy given that she had stolen the powers of all.
* In ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'', Hank Hill seems to assume everyone is as honorable and law abiding as him. In "Ho Yeah!", an angry pimp gets into a car chase with him. Hank crosses a stoplight just before it turns red and thinks this has bought him time. When the pimp crosses the red light to continue chasing him, Hank is incredibly shocked.
** Hank was also swindled by a used car salesman for 25 years, ever since the salesman told the teenage Hank buying his very first car that paying sticker price was a huge discount available only to a privileged few. Present-day Hank is of course an extremely honest salesman ([[CatchPhrase of propane and propane accessories]]), and it seemingly never crossed his mind that a salesman could be dishonest.
--->'''Salesman:''' What can I say, Hank? I'm a salesman.\\

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* [[DumbIsGood Hego]] from ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' insists on believing that his sister [[BlackSheep Shego]] still has good in her, even after she directly backstabs him. To be fair he was right, she won't be doing a HeelFaceTurn anytime soon, but for all her evil Shego couldn't fight against her family, as Dr. Drakken pointed out they defeated her suspiciously easy easily given that she had stolen the powers of all.
* In ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'', Hank Hill seems to assume everyone is as honorable and law abiding law-abiding as him. In "Ho Yeah!", an angry pimp gets into a car chase with him. Hank crosses a stoplight just before it turns red and thinks this has bought him time. When the pimp crosses the red light to continue chasing him, Hank is incredibly shocked.
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shocked. Hank was also swindled by a used car salesman for 25 years, ever since the salesman told the teenage Hank buying his very first car that paying sticker price was a huge discount available only to a privileged few. Present-day Hank is of course an extremely honest salesman ([[CatchPhrase of propane and propane accessories]]), and it seemingly never crossed his mind that a salesman could be dishonest.
--->'''Salesman:''' -->'''Salesman:''' What can I say, Hank? I'm a salesman.\\
24th Mar '17 2:00:45 PM dutchguy1986
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* Ella from ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama Pahkitew Island'' is one of nicest characters of the ''Total Drama'' franchise. She desperately wants to be Sugar's friend and absolutely does not understand why Sugar (a FatBitch and an AttentionWhore that see Ella as a potential rival) hate her so much.

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* Ella from ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama Pahkitew Island'' is one of nicest characters of the ''Total Drama'' franchise. She desperately wants to be Sugar's friend and absolutely does not understand why Sugar (a FatBitch and an AttentionWhore that see sees Ella as a potential rival) hate hates her so much.
24th Mar '17 1:59:27 PM dutchguy1986
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* [[DumbIsGood Hego]] from ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' insists on believing that his sister [[BlackSheep Shego]] still has good in her, even after she directly backstabs him. To be fair he was right, she won't be doing a HeelFaceTurn anytime soon, but for all his evil Shego couldn't fight against his family, as Dr. Drakken pointed out they defeated her suspiciously easy given that she had stolen the powers of all.

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* [[DumbIsGood Hego]] from ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' insists on believing that his sister [[BlackSheep Shego]] still has good in her, even after she directly backstabs him. To be fair he was right, she won't be doing a HeelFaceTurn anytime soon, but for all his her evil Shego couldn't fight against his her family, as Dr. Drakken pointed out they defeated her suspiciously easy given that she had stolen the powers of all.
15th Mar '17 5:14:46 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''Manga/DragonBall'': Goku frequently underestimates just how evil some people can be, and is all too willing to give them a LastSecondChance when he has them at his mercy. For example, he falls for Raditz's [[VillainsWantMercy pleas for mercy]] and grants it to him, only for Raditz to knock him down and mercilessly break his ribs; all the while, Goku is absolutely ''shocked'' that Raditz lied. He also spared Frieza's life ''twice'' out of a misguided act of mercy, and both times, Frieza used it to his advantage and tried to stab him in the back.

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* ''Manga/DragonBall'': Goku frequently underestimates just how evil some people can be, and is all too willing to give them a LastSecondChance when he has them at his mercy. For example, he falls for Raditz's [[VillainsWantMercy pleas for mercy]] and grants it to him, only for Raditz to knock him down and mercilessly break his ribs; all the while, Goku is absolutely ''shocked'' that Raditz lied. He also spared Frieza's life ''twice'' out of a misguided act of mercy, and both times, Frieza used it to his advantage and tried to stab him in the back. He ''does'' get better over time, realizing that Cell and Majin Buu were beyond redemption and actively trying to kill them.
26th Jan '17 9:02:32 PM JMQwilleran
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* In Disney's live action ''[[Film/Cinderella2015 Cinderella]]'', when Cinderella can no longer take anymore from Lady Tremaine, she breaks down, asking her "Why? Why are you so cruel? I don't understand it. I've tried to be kind to you."
15th Jan '17 11:18:36 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''Manga/DragonBall'': Goku frequently underestimates just how evil some people can be, and is all too willing to give them a LastSecondChance when he has them at his mercy. For example, he falls for Raditz's [[VillainsWantMercy pleas for mercy]] and grants it to him, only for Raditz to knock him down and mercilessly break his ribs; all the while, Goku is absolutely ''shocked'' that Raditz lied. He also spared Frieza's life ''twice'' out of a misguided act of mercy, and both times, Frieza used it to his advantage and tried to stab him in the back.
5th Jan '17 9:21:56 AM Allronix
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** In the ExpandedUniverse (Legends canon), this is a problem for several species who can't wrap their heads around the ideas behind Imperial ideals of DystopiaJustufuesTheMeans and power for power's sake. A species who got hit hard by this were the Miraluka, a species of {{BlindSeer}}s who had no functioning eyes and saw everything through the Force. They had a comprehension of evil, but not to the degree the Empire could bring. As a result, the Empire hunted them for their inherent Sensitivity and the FantasticRacism against any non-humans, forcing many of them to masquerade as blind humans to escape persecution.

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** In the ExpandedUniverse (Legends canon), this is a problem for several species who can't wrap their heads around the ideas behind Imperial ideals of DystopiaJustufuesTheMeans DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans and power for power's sake. A species who got hit hard by this were the Miraluka, a species of {{BlindSeer}}s who had no functioning eyes and saw everything through the Force. They had a comprehension of evil, but not to the degree the Empire could bring. As a result, the Empire hunted them for their inherent Sensitivity and the FantasticRacism against any non-humans, forcing many of them to masquerade as blind humans to escape persecution.
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