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28th Apr '16 4:25:34 AM isoycrazy
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* In the Literature/TheDresdenFiles
** There are several beings of incredible power, from Fairy Queens of the Summer and Winter courts, to God and His Angels. In the realm of Fairy Queens, they can only harm a mortal who has some debt or existing contract with them. Even if they are being attacked by a mortal who has no contract with them, their attacks are severely weakened. The Queens are also limited by the fact they cannot interfere in the machinations of other Queens of their court. [[spoiler:This rule prevents the Queen mothers, the oldest and strongest of the Queens, from stopping a war between the courts when they know the Summer Lady, youngest of the Summer Court, started the war.]] That said, there is nothing about not using a mortal, like the hero Harry Dresden, from helping stop the war.
** Also, the angels in the Dresden Files are also bound by numerous laws that restrain their actions, usually aimed at stopping the Fallen angels. Most of their actions center around aiding their mortal allies, the Knights of the Cross. For example, the Archangel Uriel's job is to preserve mortal free will, not tell humans how they are to use their free will. An example of this is that in ''Skin Game''. Uriel appears before one Knight before he is about to make a Heroic Sacrifice, telling him he left the job and didn't have to do this. The BigBad, who is salivating at the idea of killing his nemesis, looks at Uriel's human form , tells him to get out of the way, and flicks his nose. Uriel can only glare at the bad guy, who as a mortal, can do that without Uriel smiting him. [[spoiler:Uriel's only choice in the matter is to help the Knight with a choice he already made, and does just that]].

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* In the Literature/TheDresdenFiles
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Literature/TheDresdenFiles: There are several beings of incredible power, from Fairy Queens of the Summer and Winter courts, to God and His Angels. Angels.
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In the realm of Fairy Queens, they Queens
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can only harm a mortal who has some debt or existing contract with them. Even if they are being attacked by a mortal who has no contract with them, their attacks are severely weakened. That said, nothing stops an angered Queen from taking the person and leaving the person like at the bottom of the ocean, the jungle, or other inhospitable place to be killed. The ''Queen'' doesn't kill them, at least not directly.
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The Queens are also limited by the fact they cannot interfere in the machinations of other Queens of their court. [[spoiler:This rule prevents the Queen mothers, the oldest and strongest of the Queens, from stopping a war between the courts when they know the Summer Lady, youngest of the Summer Court, started the war.]] That said, there is nothing about not using a mortal, like the hero Harry Dresden, from helping stop the war.
** Also, ** Under the purview of God
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angels in the Dresden Files are also bound by numerous laws that restrain their actions, usually aimed at stopping the Fallen angels. Most of their actions center around aiding their mortal allies, the Knights of the Cross. For example, the Archangel Uriel's job is to preserve mortal free will, not tell humans how they are to use their free will. An example of this is that in ''Skin Game''. Uriel appears before one Knight before he is about to make a Heroic Sacrifice, telling him he left the job and didn't have to do this. The BigBad, who is salivating at the idea of killing his nemesis, looks at Uriel's human form , tells him to get out of the way, and flicks his nose. Uriel can only glare at the bad guy, who as a mortal, can do that without Uriel smiting him. [[spoiler:Uriel's only choice in the matter is to help the Knight with a choice he already made, and does just that]].that]].
*** [[ThePaladin Knights of the Cross]] have limits too. When they face the powers of darkness, {{Contrived Coincidence}}s tend to fall into their laps, like Michael not willing to leave his children alone after learning a demon is going after his wife while she is out of the house, and his priest just happened to be driving by on the street over and now has car trouble. He just happened to come when Michael needs help. That said, if a mortal ''chooses'' a fate, like making a deal with a demon or fae and the "evil" side has honored it or the person is walking into danger without being cautious, the Knight is less likely to gain any sort of boosts or protections if they try to help that person.
** While not a god in a typical fashion, the Archive has her hands tied. The Archive is the repository of ''all'' human knowledge since at a minimum ancient Greece. Everything written, printed, and now typed is within her. The Archive is practically immortal but its host is not. The Archive is passed down from mother-to-daughter along a single line. She cannot use her magic or knowledge to help another person, no matter how noble a quest, no matter how close a friend she is. The current Archive, Ivy, ispained and strained when Harry, desperate for information, asked for help as she wanted to, knowing what is in the one book he said he would have used and got out that he should try another book instead, despite the pain. She is meant to be neutral and there should all human knowledge be lost.
16th Apr '16 12:16:05 PM PaulA
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* In ''Literature/TheBalancedSword'', the demon Kerlamion has taken steps to prevent the gods actively interfering in his scheming, so it's up to the mortals to figure out what's going on and put a stop to it. Most of the gods, anyway; he didn't bother with some of the smaller gods, considering them no threat -- including Poplock's patron god Blackwart, which subsequent events suggest may have been a mistake. After Kyri's RageAgainstTheHeavens moment, her patron god Myrionar starts actively assisting her as much as It is able to.
26th Feb '16 9:19:02 PM AnotherGuy
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* The Spectre in ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', who uses Norm [=McCay=] as his agent, and it's Norm's job to choose who to punish. In the {{Novelization}}, Norm [[RefusalOfTheCall initially tells the Spectre to punish himself for allowing Armageddon to happen]].
19th Feb '16 11:27:13 PM Jake
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** In general, however, [[DontFearTheReaper Death will take any excuse to bend the rules in favour of helping humanity]]. Most memorably and spectacularly so in ''Discworld/ThiefOfTime'': The Horsemen of the Apocalypse might be prophesised to ride out when TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is imminent, but [[AintNoRule the prophecy doesn't specifiy which side they have to be on]].]]

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** In general, however, [[DontFearTheReaper Death will take any excuse to bend the rules in favour of helping humanity]]. Most memorably and spectacularly so in ''Discworld/ThiefOfTime'': The [[spoiler:The Horsemen of the Apocalypse might be prophesised to ride out when TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is imminent, but [[AintNoRule the prophecy doesn't specifiy which side they have to be on]].]]
19th Feb '16 11:26:36 PM Jake
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** In general, however, [[DontFearTheReaper Death will take any excuse to bend the rules in favour of helping humanity]]. Most memorably and spectacularly so in ''Discworld/ThiefOfTime'': The Horsemen of the Apocalypse might be prophesised to ride out when TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is imminent, but [[AintNoRule the prophecy doesn't specifiy which side they have to be on]].]]
15th Feb '16 1:53:53 PM Xelloss08
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* In ''Literature/ALandFitForHeroes'', the gods of the Dark Court are bound by certain rules laid down by the Book-Keepers, most notably that they can only interfere in the world if asked to by a worshipper. This severely limits the actions they are capable of taking.
-->'''Takavach''': By the codes used to repair the world aeons ago, we are forbidden direct intervention without supplicant request. And the major pieces, the ones best suited to the game we've chosen, ''do not fucking pray''. Perhaps they never did, perhaps it was never in them. Or perhaps they've just seen too much random horror to believe any longer in the power of the gods. Whichever the case, the gods must make do, must find what fragments of leverage they can.
31st Dec '15 6:45:15 PM FruityOatyBars
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* ''Literature/WaxAndWayne'' almost uses this phrase verbatim; God (aka Harmony) contains the powers of both Preservation and Ruin, and thus must remain neutral. (He's also not fully omnipotent or omniscient.)
-->'''Harmony:''' My hands are tied, and I am bounded.
-->'''Wax:''' Who ties God's hands?
-->'''Harmony:''' I tied them myself.
11th Nov '15 4:19:08 PM nombretomado
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* The Gods rarely intervene directly in the ''RiftwarCycle''. This is explained partially by the Gods being bound by rules. As a result of this, the God that most frequently interacts directly with the world is Banath, God of Thieves, who is able to do so because breaking the rules is a key part of his nature.

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* The Gods rarely intervene directly in the ''RiftwarCycle''.''Literature/TheRiftwarCycle''. This is explained partially by the Gods being bound by rules. As a result of this, the God that most frequently interacts directly with the world is Banath, God of Thieves, who is able to do so because breaking the rules is a key part of his nature.
22nd Sep '15 8:40:43 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* [[spoiler: Hanyuu Furude]] of ''VisualNovel/HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi'' says this frequently to Rika.

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* [[spoiler: Hanyuu Furude]] of ''VisualNovel/HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi'' ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' says this frequently to Rika.
7th Sep '15 7:49:57 AM VVK
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** Considering that the Snarl ''killed the entire Eastern Pantheon'', it's no wonder the gods don't want to mess with it.

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** Considering that the Snarl ''killed the entire Eastern Pantheon'', it's no wonder the gods don't want to mess with it. The one action they ''could'' take against it would be to [[spoiler: destroy the world to keep it from escaping.]]
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