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20th Apr '17 1:24:41 AM Spindriver
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This is the best descriptor of the ''Hivebent'' arc in Act 5, wherein all the Trolls [[CycleOfRevenge attempt to backstab each other]] and [[ManipulativeBastard Doc Scratch]] is first introduced. The trolls are eventually forced to team up and work together when shit hits the fan during their game session though. And if you thought Act 5 Act 1 got complicated, Act 5 Act 2 has so many insane plots going on (most of which are [[IndyPloy being made up as they go along]]) That by the end, it's hard to tell who's manipulating whom into doing what. [[spoiler: Who: Doc Scratch. Whom: Everyone. What: Everything.]]

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** This is the best descriptor description of the ''Hivebent'' arc in Act 5, wherein all the Trolls [[CycleOfRevenge attempt to backstab each other]] and [[ManipulativeBastard Doc Scratch]] is first introduced. The trolls are eventually forced to team up and work together when shit hits the fan during their game session though. And if you thought Act 5 Act 1 got complicated, Act 5 Act 2 has so many insane plots going on (most of which are [[IndyPloy being made up as they go along]]) That by the end, it's hard to tell who's manipulating whom into doing what. [[spoiler: Who: Doc Scratch. Whom: Everyone. What: Everything.]]
20th Apr '17 1:22:09 AM Spindriver
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* This is the best descriptor of the ''Hivebent'' arc in Act 5 of ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', wherein all the Trolls [[CycleOfRevenge attempt to backstab each other]] and [[ManipulativeBastard Doc Scratch]] is first introduced. The trolls are eventually forced to team up and work together when shit hits the fan during their game session though. And if you thought Act 5 Act 1 got complicated, Act 5 Act 2 has so many insane plots going on (most of which are [[IndyPloy being made up as they go along]]) That by the end, it's hard to tell who's manipulating whom into doing what. [[spoiler: Who: Doc Scratch. Whom: Everyone. What: Everything.]]

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* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'':
This is the best descriptor of the ''Hivebent'' arc in Act 5 of ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', 5, wherein all the Trolls [[CycleOfRevenge attempt to backstab each other]] and [[ManipulativeBastard Doc Scratch]] is first introduced. The trolls are eventually forced to team up and work together when shit hits the fan during their game session though. And if you thought Act 5 Act 1 got complicated, Act 5 Act 2 has so many insane plots going on (most of which are [[IndyPloy being made up as they go along]]) That by the end, it's hard to tell who's manipulating whom into doing what. [[spoiler: Who: Doc Scratch. Whom: Everyone. What: Everything.]]


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* There's a rock concert one night in the world of ''Webcomic/MenageA3'' and its {{spinoff}} ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'', at which every named character on the stage or in the audience has their own agenda. Hilarity ensues. See the two comics' own pages for details.
15th Apr '17 3:41:19 AM eroock
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Often overlaps with FlockOfWolves, and can often be the result of TheBigBadShuffle. XanatosSpeedChess is a defining trait. A PsychologicalThriller is more likely to have one of these. Expect lots of IKnowYouKnowIKnow. Expect a lot of people to be OutGambitted, a lot of {{Unwitting Pawn}}s, a lot of saying "JustAsPlanned!", and ''maybe'' someone to have the LastPlanStanding. Compare GambitRoulette, where one person has an improbable plan that would only make sense if he/she is near omniscient. Also compare MultilayerFacade. Done well, it strongly affirms [[TheHeavy The Villain Makes The Plot]]. Particularly convoluted and fantastical versions of this trope can dip straight into MindScrew.

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Often overlaps with FlockOfWolves, FlockOfWolves or RightHandVersusLeftHand, and can often be the result of TheBigBadShuffle. XanatosSpeedChess is a defining trait. A PsychologicalThriller is more likely to have one of these. Expect lots of IKnowYouKnowIKnow. Expect a lot of people to be OutGambitted, a lot of {{Unwitting Pawn}}s, a lot of saying "JustAsPlanned!", and ''maybe'' someone to have the LastPlanStanding. Compare GambitRoulette, where one person has an improbable plan that would only make sense if he/she is near omniscient. Also compare MultilayerFacade. Done well, it strongly affirms [[TheHeavy The Villain Makes The Plot]]. Particularly convoluted and fantastical versions of this trope can dip straight into MindScrew.
12th Apr '17 5:29:10 AM DarkPhoenix94
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* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' gleefully takes this trope and runs with it.
** First off, we have a post HeelFaceTurn Loki, [[TheSpymaster who's got a world wide spy network]] and is continually scheming for the good of Asgard and the Nine Realms while [[TheLancer watching his brother's back]].

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* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' and its sequel, ''Ghosts of the Past'', gleefully takes take this trope and runs run with it.
** First off, we have a post HeelFaceTurn Loki, [[TheSpymaster who's got a world Nine Realms wide spy network]] and is continually scheming for the good of Asgard and the Nine Realms while [[TheLancer watching his brother's back]].



** Draco Malfoy, meanwhile [[spoiler: and the mysterious voice in his head which may or may not be the NotQuiteDead Prospero Slytherin]] is up to something, plotting a largely neutral course, though helping out the good guys with a tip-off here and there. What he's actually up to is, as of chapter 8 of ''Ghosts of the Past'', an enduring mystery.



** Professor Xavier is holding off the Hellfire Club with one hand and keeping Harry away from his maternal cousin Jean for some unspecified yet crucial reason with the other. It's a case of IDidWhatIHadToDo, as it's shown that he's very much unhappy with it.
*** As of Chapter 67 [[spoiler: he reveals that he was specifically warned to keep them apart by a future incarnation of Harry who'd dabbled in a bit of time travelling.]]

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** Professor Xavier is holding off the Hellfire Club with one hand and keeping Harry away from his maternal cousin Jean for some unspecified yet crucial reason with the other. It's The latter is a case of IDidWhatIHadToDo, as it's shown that he's very much unhappy with it.
*** As of Chapter 67 [[spoiler: he reveals that it was a predestination paradox and he was specifically warned to keep them apart by a future incarnation of Harry who'd dabbled in a bit of time travelling.]]



** [[spoiler: Mister Sinister]] has been stated to be the mysterious force that kept Harry at Privet Drive, messing with Mrs Figg's head, heading off investigations and the like, having developed an interest in Harry because of his mother being related to Jean Grey.

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** [[spoiler: Mister Sinister]] has been stated to be the mysterious force that kept Harry at Privet Drive, messing with Mrs Figg's head, heading off investigations and the like, having developed an interest in Harry because of his mother being related to Jean Grey. In ''Ghosts of the Past'', he makes his move [[spoiler: kidnapping Harry and, as an afterthought, Carol, using Maddie Pryor to subdue them, as part of a scheme with the Red Room.]]
** Meanwhile, the Red Room led by General Lukin are scheming to regain their lost power and Russia's lost empire, forcibly recruiting assets old and new. In ''Ghosts of the Past'', they make their move in the first major arc, ''Forever Red'', [[spoiler: with the aid of Sinister, kidnapping Harry and Carol to study them.]]


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** In ''Ghosts of the Past'', Gambit crops up, working for [[spoiler: Sinister and the Red Room]] against his will, though with apparent grudging loyalty. In reality, he's [[spoiler: trying to free the Red Room's prisoners, and coax Sinister's right hand 'hound' Maddie Pryor into a HeelFaceTurn, working with Natasha as her mole in the Red Room.]]
3rd Apr '17 11:04:05 AM Jhamin
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* Or the 70's board game of ''Franchise/{{Dune}}''. All the factions have different win-conditions, and if a full round goes by without anyone breaking or forming an alliance, the whole thing descends into the War of Assassins...

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* Or the 70's board game of ''Franchise/{{Dune}}''. All the factions have different win-conditions, and if a full round goes by without anyone breaking or forming an alliance, the whole thing descends into the War of Assassins...Assassins.
** One faction has the special ability to guess the eventual winner and the turn of their victory before the game starts. If they are correct then right before the game ends they reveal their prediction and win *instead* of (not in addition too) the original winner. So do you accept their help? The game is full of stuff like this.
26th Mar '17 12:59:23 PM nombretomado
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* Scott Lynch's ''[[Literature/GentlemanBastard The Lies of Locke Lamora]]'' and especially its sequels, ''Red Seas Under Red Skies'' and ''The Republic of Thieves''. Perhaps justified given that the main characters are highly-skilled con men, their antagonists are meticulous planners, and that the series has been described as a 'fantasy OceansEleven'.

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* Scott Lynch's ''[[Literature/GentlemanBastard The Lies of Locke Lamora]]'' and especially its sequels, ''Red Seas Under Red Skies'' and ''The Republic of Thieves''. Perhaps justified given that the main characters are highly-skilled con men, their antagonists are meticulous planners, and that the series has been described as a 'fantasy OceansEleven'.''Film/OceansEleven'''.
25th Mar '17 7:25:14 PM ZimFan89
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* ''Series/IronFist2017'' sees Madame Gao, Bokuto, and Harold Meechum all manipulating [[TheHero Danny]] throughout the season to try and get him to aid their plans (which in each case usually involves aiming him at the other two).
2nd Mar '17 11:27:07 PM SSJMagus
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** A minor example in ''[[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy The Last Command]]''. The New Republic goes through a bunch of fuss and bother attempting to convince the Imperials of an impending attack on their Ubiqtorate base at Tangrene, [[KansasCityShuffle while they plan for their real attack at the shipyards of Bilbringi]]. Unfortunately, the opposing military leader, [[MagnificentBastard Thrawn]], isn't fooled at all, [[OutGambitted and is waiting for them when they arrive.]] However, the independent ([[NeutralNoLonger though anti-Imperial at this point]]) Smugglers' Alliance ''is'' fooled, and plans their own strike to obtain what the New Republic is after. Their strike is timed to take place during the Tangrene attack. Their target? ''Bilbringi''. The net effect is that they end up ''inside'' the defenses of the shipyard before the attack, in a perfect position to be a SpannerInTheWorks later on. [[spoiler: Which is the major factor in the New Republic's eventual victory. Even then Thrawn might have pulled off a win if the completely unrelated Noghri rebellion hadn't gone official with his assassination at the same time.]]

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** A minor example in ''[[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy The Last Command]]''. The New Republic goes through a bunch of fuss and bother attempting to convince the Imperials of an impending attack on their Ubiqtorate base at Tangrene, [[KansasCityShuffle while they plan for their real attack at the shipyards of Bilbringi]]. Unfortunately, the opposing military leader, [[MagnificentBastard Thrawn]], isn't fooled at all, [[OutGambitted and is waiting for them when they arrive.]] However, the independent ([[NeutralNoLonger though anti-Imperial at this point]]) Smugglers' Alliance ''is'' fooled, and plans their own strike to obtain what the New Republic is after.after (on the premise that they can simultaneously hurt the Empire ''and'' get paid a fortune by the New Republic for the MacGuffin). Their strike is timed to take place during the Tangrene attack. Their target? ''Bilbringi''. The net effect is that they end up ''inside'' the defenses of the shipyard before the attack, in a perfect position to be a SpannerInTheWorks later on. [[spoiler: Which is the major factor in the New Republic's eventual victory. Even then Thrawn might have pulled off a win if the completely unrelated Noghri rebellion hadn't gone official with his assassination at the same time.]]
2nd Mar '17 11:02:02 PM SSJMagus
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** The Totland Arc on the surface revolves around an arranged marriage between Charlotte Pudding, a daughter of Big Mom of the Four Emperors, and [[spoiler:Sanji]], a son of Vinsmoke Judge, King of the Germa 66. [[spoiler:Judge is seeking to exploit Big Mom's power to retake his old kingdom in the East Blue, but is OutGambitted early on by Big Mom, who's arranging to murder the entire Vinsmoke family and steal their clone army for herself. But this in turn is at risk of being derailed by one of Big Mom's trusted lieutenants, Capone Bege, who's planning to spring his own trap on Big Mom at the same time she springs hers on the Vinsmokes, assassinating her because he's a sociopath who loves to murder leaders of criminal organizations and watch how the decapitated "body" of the group will respond. And the Straw Hat pirates, informed by their ally Jinbe about the impending pileup, are planning to use the chaos to rescue Sanji's sister and escape from Big Mom's territory alive.]]
29th Jan '17 1:30:11 PM BigJaredMonkey
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Often overlaps with FlockOfWolves, and can often be the result of a BigBadShuffle. XanatosSpeedChess is a defining trait. A PsychologicalThriller is more likely to have one of these. Expect lots of IKnowYouKnowIKnow. Expect a lot of people to be OutGambitted, a lot of {{Unwitting Pawn}}s, a lot of saying "JustAsPlanned!", and ''maybe'' someone to have the LastPlanStanding. Compare GambitRoulette, where one person has an improbable plan that would only make sense if he/she is near omniscient. Also compare MultilayerFacade. Done well, it strongly affirms [[TheHeavy The Villain Makes The Plot]]. Particularly convoluted and fantastical versions of this trope can dip straight into MindScrew.

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Often overlaps with FlockOfWolves, and can often be the result of a BigBadShuffle.TheBigBadShuffle. XanatosSpeedChess is a defining trait. A PsychologicalThriller is more likely to have one of these. Expect lots of IKnowYouKnowIKnow. Expect a lot of people to be OutGambitted, a lot of {{Unwitting Pawn}}s, a lot of saying "JustAsPlanned!", and ''maybe'' someone to have the LastPlanStanding. Compare GambitRoulette, where one person has an improbable plan that would only make sense if he/she is near omniscient. Also compare MultilayerFacade. Done well, it strongly affirms [[TheHeavy The Villain Makes The Plot]]. Particularly convoluted and fantastical versions of this trope can dip straight into MindScrew.
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