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17th Apr '18 5:22:41 PM dmcreif
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* ''Series/FargoSeasonTwo'': Mike Milligan's long-awaited promotion to kingpin of the North Dakota underworld turns out to be nothing more than a dull nine-to-five job in a cramped office building, where golf games are the way that deals are made.
26th Mar '18 8:43:51 PM nombretomado
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* There is an IncredibleHulk story where the Hulk (technically Bruce Banner who controlled his body as Hulk) was taken to a planet where a green race was enslaved by a red race. The Hulk helped the green people overthrow the rulers and before leaving asked them to live peacefully together. Looking through a telescope as he was getting far off he saw the red people enslaved by the green ones and wept.

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* There is an IncredibleHulk ''ComicBook/IncredibleHulk'' story where the Hulk (technically Bruce Banner who controlled his body as Hulk) was taken to a planet where a green race was enslaved by a red race. The Hulk helped the green people overthrow the rulers and before leaving asked them to live peacefully together. Looking through a telescope as he was getting far off he saw the red people enslaved by the green ones and wept.
15th Mar '18 4:25:10 PM Odacon_Spy
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* ''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'': The Loyalists start out as direct servants of TheEmpire, seeking to [[RuleAbidingRebel overthrow the non-royalty Chancellor and put the princess on the throne]]. However, the moment he dies, something snapped in Havelock, prompting him out of formerly suppressed ambition and paranoia to become a dictator like the chancellor.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'': The Loyalists start out as direct servants of TheEmpire, seeking to [[RuleAbidingRebel overthrow the non-royalty Chancellor Lord Regent and put the princess on the throne]]. However, the moment he dies, the Regent is dealt with, something snapped in Havelock, prompting him out of formerly suppressed ambition and paranoia to become a dictator like the chancellor.Lord Regent.
9th Mar '18 1:02:40 PM RedScharlach
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** As explained by Moldrock, [[spoiler:Corona used to be a desertic world ruled by warriors where the two cities of the planet fought each other and oppressed the lesser villages, whose weak people were cast away in the desert. This ended when Moldrock himself, one of such weaklings, stumbled on the Black Beam and its awesome power. With it, Moldrock turned the people of his village in an invincible army, personally obliterated any obstacle on the way to unification and peace, turned Corona into a paradise world... And then had the scientists create warships so Moldrock and his Horde could conquer new worlds]].

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** As explained by Moldrock, [[spoiler:Corona used to be a desertic desert world ruled by warriors where the two cities of the planet fought each other and oppressed the lesser villages, whose weak weakest people were cast away in the desert. This ended when Moldrock himself, one of such those weaklings, stumbled on the Black Beam and its awesome power. With it, Moldrock turned the people of his village in an invincible army, personally obliterated any obstacle on the way to unification and peace, turned Corona into a paradise world... And then had the scientists create warships so Moldrock and his Horde could conquer new worlds]].



* One of the main themes of Creator/LuchinoVisconti's ''Film/TheLeopard'': the Sicilian aristocracy aligns themselves with Garibaldi to ensure they maintain power, even after the monarchy is overthrown and Italy unified and largely run by the Northern bourgeoisie. Count Tancredi, who actually joins Garibalid's army, remarks that "In order for everything to remain the same, everything will have to change."

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* One of the main themes of Creator/LuchinoVisconti's ''Film/TheLeopard'': the Sicilian aristocracy aligns themselves with Garibaldi to ensure they maintain power, even after the monarchy is overthrown and Italy unified and largely run by the Northern bourgeoisie. Count Tancredi, who actually joins Garibalid's Garibaldi's army, remarks that "In order for everything to remain the same, everything will have to change."



** The Trabe were a highly advanced, philosophical race for eons who also abused and oppressed the then-helpless and under-evolved Kazon, turning them into a slave-race. The reason Kazon have so much in-fighting is because the Trabe bred that into their species to keep them under control. Finally, the Kazon were able to unite long enough to overthrow the Trabe and taking most of their technology for themselves, reducing the Trabe to scattered wanderers with no homeworld. Any small colonies of Trabe that are found are wiped out by the Kazon.

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** The Trabe were a highly advanced, philosophical race for eons who also abused and oppressed the then-helpless and under-evolved Kazon, turning them into a slave-race. The reason the Kazon have so much in-fighting is because the Trabe bred that into their species to keep them under control. Finally, the Kazon were able to unite long enough to overthrow the Trabe and taking most of their technology for themselves, reducing the Trabe to scattered wanderers with no homeworld. Any small colonies of Trabe that are found are wiped out by the Kazon.



* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Duckman}}'', Duckman accidently overthrows the despotical regime of a Cuba analogue that he won a vacation to by [[ItMakesSenseInContext scalding himself with searing hot coffee]], and after becoming the new El Presidente, proceeds to succumb to power corruption and greed, something that is lampshaded by Cornfed several times before it actually happens. In the end, he is overthrown by a rebellion that intends to recoup the state defecit Duckman racked up by holding his execution on an extravagant pay per view.

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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Duckman}}'', Duckman accidently accidentally overthrows the despotical regime of a Cuba analogue that he won a vacation to by [[ItMakesSenseInContext scalding himself with searing hot coffee]], and after becoming the new El Presidente, proceeds to succumb to power corruption and greed, something that is lampshaded by Cornfed several times before it actually happens. In the end, he is overthrown by a rebellion that intends to recoup the state defecit Duckman racked up by holding his execution on an extravagant pay per view.



* The Philippines suffered from this after the U.S. helped them overthrow Spain, which had colonized them a few hundred years before. They then had to endure being a colony of the U.S., along with enduring a bloody rebellion against U.S. occupation that dragged on for 11 years, and was pretty much the Afghanistan war of the early 1900's. In fairness to the Americans, they ruled with a much lighter hand than the Spanish had, and over the course of 20-30 years the US gave the Philippines a large measure of representative government and in 1935 implemented a plan to ease the Philippines into independence over the course of ten years. Then [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Japan invaded]] and things got much worse. The US did leave after World War II though, in 1947.[[note]]… or did they?[[/note]]

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* The Philippines suffered from this after the U.S. helped them overthrow Spain, which had colonized them a few hundred years before. They then had to endure being a colony of the U.S., along with enduring a bloody rebellion against U.S. occupation that dragged on for 11 years, and was pretty much the Afghanistan war of the early 1900's. In fairness to the Americans, they ruled with a much lighter hand than the Spanish had, and over the course of 20-30 years the US gave the Philippines a large measure of representative government and in 1935 implemented a plan to ease the Philippines into independence over the course of ten years. Then [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Japan invaded]] and things got much worse. The US did leave after World War II though, in 1947.[[note]]… [[note]] ...or did they?[[/note]]



* Since UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution, France has [[UsefulNotes/FrenchPoliticalSystem had several governments]] -- Five Republics, Three Kings, Two Emperors [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Marshall Petain]] with three revolutions in the 19th Century alone (the July Revolution, the 1848 Revolution and the Paris Commune of 1871). Indeed, some historians consider the period between 1789 and the birth of the Third Republic to be one single extended revolutionary laboratory, where France experimented and shifted with many different forms of governments, and its citizens gained diverse experiences with power and protest. The Third Republic lasted for 70 years, surviving UsefulNotes/WorldWarI until it was toppled by the Nazis in WWII. After the war, France had a Fourth Republic that became divided on the Colonial issue of Algeria and the insurrectionary pieds-noirs and this led to calls for war hero UsefulNotes/CharlesDeGaulle to be dictator. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome He instead gave Algeria its independence, established the Fifth Republic and preserved representative democracy]], although by creating the office of President in the Fifth Republic, [=DeGaulle=] created a powerful executive position that some liken to be more akin to UsefulNotes/LouisXIV than anything in the old republics.

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* Since UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution, France has [[UsefulNotes/FrenchPoliticalSystem had several governments]] -- Five Republics, Three Kings, Two Emperors [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Marshall Petain]] with three revolutions in the 19th Century century alone (the July Revolution, the 1848 Revolution and the Paris Commune of 1871). Indeed, some historians consider the period between 1789 and the birth of the Third Republic to be one single extended revolutionary laboratory, where France experimented and shifted with many different forms of governments, and its citizens gained diverse experiences with power and protest. The Third Republic lasted for 70 years, surviving UsefulNotes/WorldWarI until it was toppled by the Nazis in WWII. After the war, France had a Fourth Republic that became divided on the Colonial issue of Algeria and the insurrectionary pieds-noirs and this led to calls for war hero UsefulNotes/CharlesDeGaulle to be dictator. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome He instead gave Algeria its independence, established the Fifth Republic and preserved representative democracy]], although by creating the office of President in the Fifth Republic, [=DeGaulle=] created a powerful executive position that some liken to be more akin to UsefulNotes/LouisXIV than anything in the old republics.



** Since the end of UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan, modern Japan has largely been governed by the Liberal Democratic Party, which contrary to its name is actually a conservative party that was led and supported by the same individuals who supported Imperial Japan and its policies. With the exception of brief 3 year periods in the 90s and the 2000s, no other Japanese party has been able to contend its majority, and the current President and leader of the party, Shinzo Abe is the grandson of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobusuke_Kishi Nobusuke_Kishi]] who was detained and classified as a Type-A War Criminal.

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** Since the end of UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan, modern Japan has largely been governed by the Liberal Democratic Party, which contrary to its name is actually a conservative party that was led and supported by the same individuals who supported Imperial Japan and its policies. With the exception of brief 3 year 3-year periods in the 90s and the 2000s, no other Japanese party has been able to contend its majority, and the current President and leader of the party, Shinzo Abe is the grandson of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobusuke_Kishi Nobusuke_Kishi]] who was detained and classified as a Type-A War Criminal.
15th Feb '18 10:47:27 PM mlsmithca
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** This, in fact, is what happened during the People Power "Revolution" in 1986—the Marcos regime was ousted from office five years after the lifting of martial law, but in some ways this was like a restoration of the old, pre-1972 order—almost all of the post-Marcos politicians belong to the [[GenerationXerox same families]] [[HereditaryRepublic that occupied the government before Marcos took power]] (and the new politicians quickly created their own dynasties anyway). A good analogy would be if the dispossessed Russian oligarchy overthrew Stalin via ostensibly peaceful means ''and reinstated the Tsarist autocracy in Moscow'' [[note]]and then again, post-Soviet Russia has its own share of oligarchs anyway[[/note]].

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** This, in fact, This is what happened during the People Power "Revolution" in 1986—the Marcos regime was ousted from office five years after the lifting of martial law, but in some ways this was like a restoration of the old, pre-1972 order—almost all of the post-Marcos politicians belong to the [[GenerationXerox same families]] [[HereditaryRepublic that occupied the government before Marcos took power]] (and the new politicians quickly created their own dynasties anyway). A good analogy would be if the dispossessed Russian oligarchy overthrew Stalin via ostensibly peaceful means ''and reinstated the Tsarist autocracy in Moscow'' [[note]]and then again, post-Soviet Russia has its own share of oligarchs anyway[[/note]].



** In UsefulNotes/{{France}}, President Francois Mitterand became the first major Left-Wing President of the Fifth Republic, coming to power with a wide backing by left-liberals, socialists and communists. In the early years of his tenure, he actually put forth many leftist policies, increased taxation on wealth, and improved social services. But then the backlash with capital flight and the global turn to neoliberalism, the discrediting of the USSR which had an effect of discrediting even social democratic views, made him turn towards austerity, reduced taxes on wealth and in a way foreshadow the third-way turn that the American Democrats and the British Labour would follow under Clinton and Tony Blair, albeit while still preserving far more social democratic measures than his Anglo-Saxon counterparts. It however made him a controversial figure in the French left with everyone seeing him as either a traitor or a SellOut, and since then, no left-wing President has come to power, giving way to Centrists or Center-Right politicians, culminating in Francois Hollande who was seen as an improvement on the unpopular Nicholas Sarkozy but more or less confirmed the same policies of his predecessor.
** The election of Tony Blair brought the Labour Party back to power after more than a decade of the Conservative Party at Downing Street. It was accompanied by much joy and cheer among the English Left. That joy soured with [[MeetTheNewBoss "New" Labour]] which largely continued and extended Thatcher-era under Blair, his hand-in-glove support of the American Government during TheWarOnTerror, to much in-fighting and bitterness among the English Left. Most notably the playwright Harold Pinter admitted to regretting voting for Blair upon seeing him authorize support for the Iraq War. Indeed on the death of UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher, Tony Blair admitted that he saw his job as merely building on the latter's policies. Critics however got so supremely upset with New Labour that they were voted out by the Conservative Party after the failure of Blair's successor Gordon Ministry, and Labour is now led by Jeremy Corbyn, a highly controversial figure whose views were considered fringe and far-left by the Blair-Gordon faction.
** UsefulNotes/BillClinton like Blair, brought the Left back to power after 12 years of Conservative rule. In his campaign and in his First Term, Clinton identified himself as a moderate with a focus on the economy, and even used Reagan's campaign slogan [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_America_Great_Again Make America Great Again]]. So Clinton's whole platform was a pivot against the Democrat's New Deal-LBJ legacy, and on coming to office, he made the Democrats focus on the professional class and likewise confirmed Reagan's NAFTA trade deal and more or less increased the deregulation and the fading away of welfare programs (described by Clinton as "the end of welfare as we have come to know it"). Of course towards the end, he did plan on bringing back old Democratic programs, including a Health Care proposal that was defeated by Congress.

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** In UsefulNotes/{{France}}, President Francois Mitterand became the first major Left-Wing President of the Fifth Republic, coming to power with a wide backing by left-liberals, socialists and communists. In the early years of his tenure, he actually put forth many leftist policies, increased taxation on wealth, and improved social services. But then the backlash with capital flight and the global turn to neoliberalism, the discrediting of the USSR which had an effect of discrediting even social democratic views, made him turn towards austerity, reduced taxes on wealth and in a way foreshadow the third-way turn that the American Democrats and the British Labour would follow under Clinton and Tony Blair, albeit while still preserving far more social democratic measures than his Anglo-Saxon counterparts. It however made him a controversial figure in the French left with everyone seeing him as either a traitor or a SellOut, and since then, no left-wing President has come to power, giving way to Centrists or Center-Right politicians, culminating in Francois Hollande who was seen as an improvement on the unpopular Nicholas Sarkozy but more or less confirmed the same policies of his predecessor.
** The election of Tony Blair brought the Labour Party back to power after more than a decade of the Conservative Party at Downing Street. It was accompanied by much joy and cheer among the English Left. That joy soured with [[MeetTheNewBoss "New" Labour]] Labour,]] which largely continued and extended Thatcher-era under Blair, his hand-in-glove support of the American Government during TheWarOnTerror, to much in-fighting and bitterness among the English Left. Most notably notably, the playwright Harold Pinter admitted to regretting voting for Blair upon seeing him authorize support for the Iraq War. Indeed Indeed, on the death of UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher, Tony Blair admitted that he saw his job as merely building on the latter's policies. Critics however got so supremely upset with New Labour that they were voted out by the Conservative Party after the failure of Blair's successor Gordon Ministry, Brown, and Labour is now led by Jeremy Corbyn, a highly controversial figure whose views were considered fringe and far-left by the Blair-Gordon Blair-Brown faction.
** UsefulNotes/BillClinton UsefulNotes/BillClinton, like Blair, brought the Left back to power after 12 years of Conservative rule. In his campaign and in his First Term, Clinton identified himself as a moderate with a focus on the economy, and even used Reagan's campaign slogan [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_America_Great_Again Make America Great Again]]. So Clinton's whole platform was a pivot against the Democrat's Democrats' New Deal-LBJ legacy, and on coming to office, he made the Democrats focus on the professional class and likewise confirmed Reagan's NAFTA trade deal and more or less increased the deregulation and the fading away of welfare programs (described by Clinton as "the end of welfare as we have come to know it"). Of course towards Towards the end, he did plan on bringing back old Democratic programs, including a Health Care proposal that was defeated by Congress.



* The same thing happened in Mexico after the supposedly liberal Porfirio Díaz took power. The old aristocracy was simply replaced with an even more brutal plutocracy, and while the cities became modern, small towns were squeezed out of existence and their former denizens became ''de facto'' serfs living with inescapable debt in haciendas (they were even called peons, although that term existed before Díaz).
** And it was invoked again, after Díaz resigned, and the PRI took power. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_Revolutionary_Party Guess how that turned out]]

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* The same thing happened in Mexico after the supposedly liberal Porfirio Díaz took power. The old aristocracy was simply replaced with an even more brutal plutocracy, and while the cities became modern, small towns were squeezed out of existence and their former denizens became ''de facto'' serfs living with inescapable debt in haciendas (they were even called peons, although that term existed before Díaz).
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Díaz). And it was invoked again, after Díaz resigned, and the PRI took power. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_Revolutionary_Party Guess how that turned out]]out.]]



* Since UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution, France has [[UsefulNotes/FrenchPoliticalSystem had several governments]] -- Five Republics, Three Kings, Two Emperors [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Marshall Petain]] with three revolutions in the 19th Century alone (the July Revolution, the 1848 Revolution and the Paris Commune of 1871). Indeed, some historians consider the period between 1789 and the birth of the Third Republic to be one single extended revolutionary laboratory, where France experimented and shifted with many different forms of governments, and its citizens gained diverse experiences with power and protest. The Third Republic lasted for 70 years, surviving UsefulNotes/WorldWarI until it was toppled by the Nazis in WWII. After the war, France had a Fourth Republic that became divided on the Colonial issue of Algeria and the insurrectionary pieds-noirs and this led to calls for war hero UsefulNotes/CharlesDeGaulle to be dictator. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome He instead gave Algeria its independence, established the Fifth Republic and preserved representative democracy]], although by creating the office of President in the Fifth Republic, [=DeGaulle=] arguably created a powerful executive position that some liken to be more akin to UsefulNotes/LouisXIV than anything in the old republics.

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* Since UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution, France has [[UsefulNotes/FrenchPoliticalSystem had several governments]] -- Five Republics, Three Kings, Two Emperors [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Marshall Petain]] with three revolutions in the 19th Century alone (the July Revolution, the 1848 Revolution and the Paris Commune of 1871). Indeed, some historians consider the period between 1789 and the birth of the Third Republic to be one single extended revolutionary laboratory, where France experimented and shifted with many different forms of governments, and its citizens gained diverse experiences with power and protest. The Third Republic lasted for 70 years, surviving UsefulNotes/WorldWarI until it was toppled by the Nazis in WWII. After the war, France had a Fourth Republic that became divided on the Colonial issue of Algeria and the insurrectionary pieds-noirs and this led to calls for war hero UsefulNotes/CharlesDeGaulle to be dictator. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome He instead gave Algeria its independence, established the Fifth Republic and preserved representative democracy]], although by creating the office of President in the Fifth Republic, [=DeGaulle=] arguably created a powerful executive position that some liken to be more akin to UsefulNotes/LouisXIV than anything in the old republics.



-->'''Ketevan''': Josef, who are you now?
-->'''Stalin''': Do you remember the Tsar? I'm like the Tsar.

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-->'''Ketevan''': --->'''Ketevan''': Josef, who are you now?
-->'''Stalin''': --->'''Stalin''': Do you remember the Tsar? I'm like the Tsar.



** UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson believed that, to avert this trope, every nineteen years America needed to repeal every law on the books and hold a new Constitutional convention in order to adapt to the times and avoid becoming ossified. The phrase "Second American Revolution" was used when power was first peacefully handed over from one party to another when UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson was elected. Of course for many people, Jefferson is the emblematic representative of the failures of the American Revolution, since he wrote "all men are created equal" and voiced support for abolitionism, tentatively, in his youth while eventually becoming a slaveowner and a defender and representative of the South's plantation class.

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** UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson believed that, to avert this trope, every nineteen years America needed to repeal every law on the books and hold a new Constitutional convention in order to adapt to the times and avoid becoming ossified. The phrase "Second American Revolution" was used when power was first peacefully handed over from one party to another when UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson was elected. Of course for For many people, Jefferson is the emblematic representative of the failures of the American Revolution, since he wrote "all men are created equal" and voiced support for abolitionism, tentatively, in his youth while eventually becoming a slaveowner and a defender and representative of the South's plantation class.



** However, the Republic struggled for legitimacy since they were often divided between persecuting both the Communists and the Reactionaries. The circumstances of its formation (ShockingDefeatLegacy, massive loss of territory, seemingly endless economic problems) never went away, and when TheGreatDepression arrived, and hit Germany especially bad. The mood was ripe enough, the opposition was divided enough, that they ''willingly voted'' for an outright dictatorship[[note]]Albeit Hitler only won with a slim margin and even that he managed via coalition with other parties and the 1933 elections were already conducted in a climate of intimidation with brownshirts as "associate police", which if it happened today would lead to international observers bemoaning "irregularities"[[/note]] that was far more autocratic than the Kaisers ever were and didn't even attempt to hide its disdain for even the pre-war pretend democracy. After UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, East Germany split apart from West Germany because they saw the leadership filled with too many ex-Nazis and became a Communist state, and they ended up becoming a Communist dictatorship with mass surveillance and repression. UsefulNotes/TheBonnRepublic averted this however, as well as United Germany. However, the GDR did point out - rightly - that many Nazis had gotten off ''very'' lightly and some were even in positions of power in West Germany.
*** Of course, the GDR very conveniently "forgot" to mention that it also had a bunch of ex-nazis in government positions. The unpleasant inescapable fact was that, after WWII, most of the people with experience of government in Germany tended to have been mid-level nazis, and they were unfortunately essential (even if discreetly employed as mid-level bureaucrats) to get government working again in ''both'' post-war Germanies.

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** However, the Republic struggled for legitimacy since they were often divided between persecuting both the Communists and the Reactionaries. The circumstances of its formation (ShockingDefeatLegacy, massive loss of territory, seemingly endless economic problems) never went away, and when TheGreatDepression arrived, and hit Germany especially bad. The mood was ripe enough, the opposition was divided enough, that they ''willingly voted'' for an outright dictatorship[[note]]Albeit Hitler only won with a slim margin and even that he managed via coalition with other parties and the 1933 elections were already conducted in a climate of intimidation with brownshirts as "associate police", which if it happened today would lead to international observers bemoaning "irregularities"[[/note]] that was far more autocratic than the Kaisers ever were and didn't even attempt to hide its disdain for even the pre-war pretend democracy. After UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, East Germany split apart from West Germany because they saw the leadership filled with too many ex-Nazis and became a Communist state, and they ended up becoming a Communist dictatorship with mass surveillance and repression. UsefulNotes/TheBonnRepublic averted this however, as well as United Germany. However, the GDR did point out - rightly - that many Nazis had gotten off ''very'' lightly and some were even in positions of power in West Germany.
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Germany. The GDR very conveniently "forgot" to mention that it also had a bunch of ex-nazis in government positions. The unpleasant inescapable fact was that, after WWII, most of the people with experience of government in Germany tended to have been mid-level nazis, and they were unfortunately essential (even if discreetly employed as mid-level bureaucrats) to get government working again in ''both'' post-war Germanies.
11th Feb '18 7:40:16 PM MasterN
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One can argue that this trope generally applies if you take a surface-view of revolutions, i.e. the political layer of an autocratic system of government replaced with a more moderate/liberal/equal kind. Actual revolutions tend to be complex affairs and unleash changes across multiple layers of society and culture, and in addition to direct effects, there are also indirect effects, such as the threat of a radical revolution making reactionaries accede to moderate demands they formerly abhorred. So while revolutions historically and in fiction do feature shocking and depressing reversals it isn't necessarily the case that nothing changes either. On a less ideological note, this often happens because of a clash about what to revolutionize -- do you want to alter an obsolete system of government and change the economy so that it favors the poor over the wealthy and privilege this over all other issues (Russia, communist revolutions generally)? Establish representative democracy while leaving socioeconomic issues as a bridge to cross on another day (American)? Or do both at the same time (French)? In the case of pro-independence and anti-colonial revolutions it can simply be OccupiersOutOfOurCountry and self-determination (India, Algeria, Egypt), but can also be removing from power those who prospered under the colonial regime, even if they were strictly limited in the positions they had held.

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One can argue that this trope generally applies if you take a surface-view of revolutions, i.e. the political layer of an autocratic system of government replaced with a more moderate/liberal/equal kind. Actual revolutions tend to be complex affairs and unleash changes across multiple layers of society and culture, and in addition to direct effects, there are also indirect effects, such as the threat of a radical revolution making reactionaries accede to moderate demands they formerly abhorred. So while revolutions historically and in fiction do feature shocking and depressing reversals it isn't necessarily the case that nothing changes either. On a less ideological note, this often happens because of a clash about what to revolutionize -- do you want to alter an obsolete system of government and change the economy so that it favors the poor over the wealthy and privilege this over all other issues (Russia, communist revolutions generally)? Establish representative democracy while leaving socioeconomic issues as a bridge to cross on another day (American)? (America)? Or do both at the same time (French)? In (France)? Or, in the case of pro-independence and anti-colonial revolutions it can revolutions, simply be kick the OccupiersOutOfOurCountry and promote self-determination (India, Algeria, Egypt), but it can also be removing from power those who prospered under the colonial regime, even if they were strictly limited in the positions they had held.
4th Feb '18 1:41:12 AM Aquillion
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-->Banglar was defeated by the three androids. It was a great victory for the opposition force. Several months later Mulk became the new president. A new government replaced the old regimen. The circuitry which allowed the androids to think for themselves was not fully developed. They were programed to self-destruct to avoid any danger. The development of the androids progressed under Mulk's government. These powerful weapons became far stronger than Banglar's old forces. The people seeing this said "[[HistoryRepeats Some things never change]]."

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-->Banglar was defeated by the three androids. It was a great victory for the opposition force. Several months later Mulk became the new president. A new government replaced the old regimen. The circuitry which allowed the androids to think for themselves was not fully developed. They were programed to self-destruct to avoid any danger. The development of the androids progressed under Mulk's government. These powerful weapons became far stronger than Banglar's old forces. The people seeing this And the people, realizing this, said "[[HistoryRepeats Some things never change]]."
26th Jan '18 2:49:24 PM MisterVercetti
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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' sees Roger replacing a Latin dictator whom Stan accidentally killed. He renames the country "[[PunnyName The Republic of]] [[Music/{{Bananarama}}]]" and puts some bizarre policies in place (such as ordering the people to paint the ''entire nation'' yellow), leading the people to overthrow him. His replacement, a rather effeminate man with some smooth dance moves, somehow ends up being ''even worse'', earning himself the nickname "The Dancer of Death".

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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' sees Roger replacing a Latin dictator whom Stan accidentally killed. He renames the country country "[[PunnyName The Republic of]] [[Music/{{Bananarama}}]]" Music/{{Bananarama}}" and puts some bizarre policies in place (such as ordering the people to paint the ''entire nation'' yellow), leading the people to overthrow him. His replacement, a rather effeminate man with some smooth dance moves, somehow ends up being ''even worse'', earning himself the nickname "The Dancer of Death".
26th Jan '18 2:49:02 PM MisterVercetti
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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' sees Roger replacing a Latin dictator whom Stan accidentally killed. He renames the country "[[BananaRepublic PunnyName The Republic of]] [[Music/{{Bananarama}}]]" and puts some bizarre policies in place (such as ordering the people to paint the ''entire nation'' yellow), leading the people to overthrow him. His replacement, a rather effeminate man with some smooth dance moves, somehow ends up being ''even worse'', earning himself the nickname "The Dancer of Death".

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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' sees Roger replacing a Latin dictator whom Stan accidentally killed. He renames the country "[[BananaRepublic PunnyName country "[[PunnyName The Republic of]] [[Music/{{Bananarama}}]]" and puts some bizarre policies in place (such as ordering the people to paint the ''entire nation'' yellow), leading the people to overthrow him. His replacement, a rather effeminate man with some smooth dance moves, somehow ends up being ''even worse'', earning himself the nickname "The Dancer of Death".
26th Jan '18 2:48:40 PM MisterVercetti
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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' where Roger impersonated a Latin American dictator ended with a line suggesting that the guy who deposed him ("The Dancing Butcher") turned out even worse.

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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' where sees Roger impersonated replacing a Latin American dictator ended whom Stan accidentally killed. He renames the country "[[BananaRepublic PunnyName The Republic of]] [[Music/{{Bananarama}}]]" and puts some bizarre policies in place (such as ordering the people to paint the ''entire nation'' yellow), leading the people to overthrow him. His replacement, a rather effeminate man with a line suggesting that some smooth dance moves, somehow ends up being ''even worse'', earning himself the guy who deposed him ("The Dancing Butcher") turned out even worse.nickname "The Dancer of Death".
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