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23rd Jun '16 10:14:13 AM ElodieHiras
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* ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' sourcebook Mass Combat allows the commander of an army to take a frontline role. It is a [[DeathOrGloryAttack high-risk/high-reward option]], as while the presence of their commander on he front allows to see the siuation in more detail and inspires the troops to do better, the commander is more vulnerable to misfortunes of war (random injuries sustained during batle).

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* ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' sourcebook Mass Combat allows the commander of an army to take a frontline role. It is a [[DeathOrGloryAttack high-risk/high-reward option]], as while the presence of their commander on he front allows to see the siuation situation in more detail and inspires the troops to do better, the commander is more vulnerable to misfortunes of war (random injuries sustained during batle).battle).
20th Jun '16 8:34:14 PM PaulA
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** Some frontline generals liked to demonstrate this by showing off how much they trusted their men to relieve them of the need to wield a weapon themselves. For instance Marshal Joachim Murat led the great charge at the [[UsefulNotes/NapoleonicWars battle of Eylau]] (1807) wielding a riding-crop instead of a sabre, and it was said of General Hans Joachim von Zieten, UsefulNotes/FrederickTheGreat's cavalry leader, that he went through the entire UsefulNotes/SevenYearsWar having to draw his sword in anger exactly once.

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** Some frontline generals liked to demonstrate this by showing off how much they trusted their men to relieve them of the need to wield a weapon themselves. For instance Marshal Joachim Murat led the great charge at the [[UsefulNotes/NapoleonicWars [[UsefulNotes/TheNapoleonicWars battle of Eylau]] (1807) wielding a riding-crop instead of a sabre, and it was said of General Hans Joachim von Zieten, UsefulNotes/FrederickTheGreat's cavalry leader, that he went through the entire UsefulNotes/SevenYearsWar having to draw his sword in anger exactly once.
7th Jun '16 6:56:50 PM Doug86
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* To their own intense frustration, these were forced to abandon their ways ''fast'' after the first few months of UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne. This was not because they were morons or somehow Lacked Moral Fibre (LMF), but because they wanted to actually be able to receive information from and command their men. Away from a telephone-exchange, the force any one man could receive information from and give orders to within the space of a minute was limited to less than a hundred metres and about that number of men (men spread out to decrease losses from artillery fire). It was not unheard of for it to take twelve hours to physically carry a message across five kilometres of contested battlefield, and if a General wasn't in place to 'phone the artillery up and give them new orders based upon that information as and when he received it, then friendly fire and/or massive losses inevitably ensued.

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* To their own intense frustration, these were forced to abandon their ways ''fast'' after the first few months of UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne.UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. This was not because they were morons or somehow Lacked Moral Fibre (LMF), but because they wanted to actually be able to receive information from and command their men. Away from a telephone-exchange, the force any one man could receive information from and give orders to within the space of a minute was limited to less than a hundred metres and about that number of men (men spread out to decrease losses from artillery fire). It was not unheard of for it to take twelve hours to physically carry a message across five kilometres of contested battlefield, and if a General wasn't in place to 'phone the artillery up and give them new orders based upon that information as and when he received it, then friendly fire and/or massive losses inevitably ensued.
31st May '16 1:04:04 AM erforce
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--> -- '''General Barnard Bee''' at the First Battle of Manassas during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar

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--> -- -->-- '''General Barnard Bee''' at the First Battle of Manassas during UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar



* A civilian variant in ''JurassicWorld''. Simon Masrani, the billionaire who built and owns the now fully functional dinosaur park after his friend John Hammond's death, realizes that the ''Indominus Rex'' needs to be killed after the super-violent, highly intelligent, genetically engineered monster of a dinosaur kills nearly all members of a security team sent to recapture it. They decide to kill it from the air with a helicopter mounted chaingun. Since all the pilots are either off-island or trapped in lock down during the incident, Masrani volunteers himself to fly the chopper himself despite not ''quite'' earning his pilot license yet (he had two more days). While flying towards the ''I. Rex'', he finds out at least one of his crewmen is ex-military and an Afghanistgan veteran. He even [[LampshadeHanging asks if his general ever flew into combat with him]].

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* A civilian variant in ''JurassicWorld''.''Film/JurassicWorld''. Simon Masrani, the billionaire who built and owns the now fully functional dinosaur park after his friend John Hammond's death, realizes that the ''Indominus Rex'' needs to be killed after the super-violent, highly intelligent, genetically engineered monster of a dinosaur kills nearly all members of a security team sent to recapture it. They decide to kill it from the air with a helicopter mounted chaingun. Since all the pilots are either off-island or trapped in lock down during the incident, Masrani volunteers himself to fly the chopper himself despite not ''quite'' earning his pilot license yet (he had two more days). While flying towards the ''I. Rex'', he finds out at least one of his crewmen is ex-military and an Afghanistgan veteran. He even [[LampshadeHanging asks if his general ever flew into combat with him]].



* Cohaagen in the 2012 remake of ''[[TotalRecall2012 Total Recall]]'' becomes this, the sort of BigBad who still has henchmen and a souped-up robotic bodyguard, but also has a flak jacket and prefers to execute his enemies personally rather than delegate it to an underling. And while both versions confront Quaid in the end, in the original version it was because Quaid had killed any {{Mooks}} who could get between them.

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* Cohaagen in the 2012 remake of ''[[TotalRecall2012 ''[[Film/TotalRecall2012 Total Recall]]'' becomes this, the sort of BigBad who still has henchmen and a souped-up robotic bodyguard, but also has a flak jacket and prefers to execute his enemies personally rather than delegate it to an underling. And while both versions confront Quaid in the end, in the original version it was because Quaid had killed any {{Mooks}} who could get between them.
25th May '16 8:34:31 AM NativeJovian
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** The Jedi in all Clone Wars-related media, such as ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', and the animated series ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars Clone Wars]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars The Clone Wars]]''. They are all automatically generals, and prefer to command from the frontlines. Probably because they [[ImplausibleFencingPowers don't fear enemy blaster fire]]. Pong Krell from ''The Clone Wars'' is an exception, preferring to stay in the back. But he has a good reason to do that. [[spoiler: He's killing as many clones as possible and using HollywoodTactics before he officially betrays the Republic.]]

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** The Jedi in all Clone Wars-related media, such as ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', and the animated series ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars Clone Wars]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars The Clone Wars]]''. They are all automatically generals, and prefer to command from the frontlines. Probably because they [[ImplausibleFencingPowers [[ParryingBullets don't fear enemy blaster fire]]. Pong Krell from ''The Clone Wars'' is an exception, preferring to stay in the back. But he has a good reason to do that. [[spoiler: He's killing as many clones as possible and using HollywoodTactics before he officially betrays the Republic.]]
22nd May '16 1:20:06 AM Abracadabrantes
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** The trope was so common in the Revolutionary/Napoleonic era that memoir writers are quick to point those who ''weren't'' frontline generals.
18th May '16 11:41:56 PM Greenmantle
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* The page picture is of General Erwin Rommel in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, who frequently got up front to see what was going on and was nearly captured on three different occasions. The last time he tried to reach the front lines was the most egregious: he did so as an Army commander (100,000 men), and a US Army Air Force fighter strafed his car and seriously wounded him for his folly. He seems to have thought he could get away with it despite having recently lost a Korps commander to just such an attack.

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* The page picture is of General Erwin Rommel in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, who frequently got up front to see what was going on and was nearly captured on three different occasions. The last time he tried to reach the front lines was the most egregious: he did so as an Army commander (100,000 men), and a US Army Royal Canadian Air Force fighter strafed his car and seriously wounded him for his folly. He seems to have thought he could get away with it despite having recently lost a Korps commander to just such an attack.
15th May '16 10:46:15 AM Ohio9
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** Confederate General A. P. Hill, who replaced the previously mentioned Stonewall Jackson after Jackson died in 1863, was killed in action while riding up and down the front of his lines, trying to rally his men. Hill died just one week before the surrender of Lee's army and one month before the end of the war.
2nd May '16 4:21:31 AM BobTanaka
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* During the Revolutionary War, UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington was famous for exposing himself to enemy fire by riding right up behind the front lines during battle. It's frankly a miracle that he wasn't killed. Later he became the first and only U.S. President [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent to personally command troops on the battlefield during the Whiskey Rebellion.]]
30th Apr '16 4:47:55 PM MAI742
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* The page picture is of General Erwin Rommel in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, who frequently got up front to see what was going on and was nearly captured on three different occasions: on the last time he tried to reach a war front, an Allied aircraft strafed and trashed his car, seriously wounding him.

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* To their own intense frustration, these were forced to abandon their ways ''fast'' after the first few months of UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne. This was not because they were morons or somehow Lacked Moral Fibre (LMF), but because they wanted to actually be able to receive information from and command their men. Away from a telephone-exchange, the force any one man could receive information from and give orders to within the space of a minute was limited to less than a hundred metres and about that number of men (men spread out to decrease losses from artillery fire). It was not unheard of for it to take twelve hours to physically carry a message across five kilometres of contested battlefield, and if a General wasn't in place to 'phone the artillery up and give them new orders based upon that information as and when he received it, then friendly fire and/or massive losses inevitably ensued.
* In World War Two, the proliferation of sufficiently reliable, lightweight, and numerous portable radios allowed Generals to become this once more. Above the Corps/Korps (c.20,000-50,000 men) level, however, a FrontlineGeneral was decidedly inferior to his rearward counterpart. Fewer staff and means of communication meant a weaker grasp of the overall situation, and overreliance on radio communications could allow the enemy to pinpoint the location of a FrontlineGeneral using direction-finding techniques. Well-placed artillery, airpower, and partisan attacks cut the lives of many a FrontlineGeneral short in the Second World War.
* The page picture is of General Erwin Rommel in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, who frequently got up front to see what was going on and was nearly captured on three different occasions: on the occasions. The last time he tried to reach a war front, the front lines was the most egregious: he did so as an Allied aircraft Army commander (100,000 men), and a US Army Air Force fighter strafed his car and trashed his car, seriously wounding him.wounded him for his folly. He seems to have thought he could get away with it despite having recently lost a Korps commander to just such an attack.
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