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16th Oct '17 6:47:23 AM ChronoLegion
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* Since ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' takes place 10 years before [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]], several things can already be assumed about the Federation-Klingon War (it's not going to end in a Klingon victory) and the prototype spore drive (it's not going to revolutionize space travel).
30th Sep '17 8:46:14 PM merotoker
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->''"My name is Lester Burnham. This is my neighborhood; this is my street; this is my life. I'm 42 years old. [[PosthumousNarration In less than a year I'll be dead.]]"''

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->''"My name is Lester Burnham. This is my neighborhood; this is my street; this is my life. I'm 42 years old. [[PosthumousNarration In less than a year I'll be dead.]]"''"''



** Also {{Invoked}} in-story early-on by Oscar when she's forced to pick sides in the conflict between the Countess Du Barry, lover of king Louis XV, and Marie Antoinette, then merely the wife of the heir to the throne: she quickly reasons that Du Barry may be the more powerful in that moment thanks to the king's support, but the king was old and in that moment she would lose all her power at the same time Marie Antoinette became queen, so she picked Marie Antoinette's side. Just as expected, Du Barry ultimately wins their contention-and then, less than two years later, Louis XV dies, making her victory completely meaningless.

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** Also {{Invoked}} {{invoked|Trope}} in-story early-on by Oscar when she's forced to pick sides in the conflict between the Countess Du Barry, lover of king Louis XV, and Marie Antoinette, then merely the wife of the heir to the throne: she quickly reasons that Du Barry may be the more powerful in that moment thanks to the king's support, but the king was old and in that moment she would lose all her power at the same time Marie Antoinette became queen, so she picked Marie Antoinette's side. Just as expected, Du Barry ultimately wins their contention-and then, less than two years later, Louis XV dies, making her victory completely meaningless.



** ''[[Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF Resurrection 'F']]'' takes place [[{{Interquel}} after the Buu Saga, but before the World Tournament where Goku meets Uub]]. So suffice it to say, it's not a matter of ''if'' the revived Freeza is going to be beaten by Goku, but rather a matter of ''when'' and ''how''. [[spoiler:{{Subverted}} when Frieza actually ''wins'', if barely, and even kills Vegeta and destroys Earth before Whis rewinds time]].

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** ''[[Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF Resurrection 'F']]'' takes place [[{{Interquel}} after the Buu Saga, but before the World Tournament where Goku meets Uub]]. So suffice it to say, it's not a matter of ''if'' the revived Freeza is going to be beaten by Goku, but rather a matter of ''when'' and ''how''. [[spoiler:{{Subverted}} [[spoiler:{{Subverted|Trope}} when Frieza actually ''wins'', if barely, and even kills Vegeta and destroys Earth before Whis rewinds time]].



** This can be said for pretty much every ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' MidQuel regardless of media. No matter how many {{Super Prototype}}s are fielded, no matter how the main character is treated as "the greatest AcePilot the world has never known", it's not going to go against the anime.

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** This can be said for pretty much every ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' MidQuel midquel regardless of media. No matter how many {{Super Prototype}}s are fielded, no matter how the main character is treated as "the greatest AcePilot the world has never known", it's not going to go against the anime.



* The official {{Midquel}} ''Disney/BambiII'' also has one. [[spoiler:During the climax Bambi falls off a cliff and seemingly dies. The scene exists solely to galvanise the bond between him and his father from this near loss, since everyone in the audience knows Bambi has to live past half of the original film's chronology.]]

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* The official {{Midquel}} [[{{Interquel}} midquel]] ''Disney/BambiII'' also has one. [[spoiler:During the climax Bambi falls off a cliff and seemingly dies. The scene exists solely to galvanise the bond between him and his father from this near loss, since everyone in the audience knows Bambi has to live past half of the original film's chronology.]]



** "Symphony Of Illumination" subverted the trope, [[spoiler: using the framing device of having Robin talking to her kids at some point in the future. She then gets told she's infertile, implying at first that it's this trope and that it will turn out she can have kids after all. Then at the end it turned out the kids only existed in her imagination and she really was infertile.]]

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** "Symphony Of Illumination" subverted the trope, [[spoiler: using the framing device of having Robin talking to her kids at some point in the future. She then gets told she's infertile, implying at first that it's this trope and that it will turn out she can have kids after all. Then at the end it turned out the kids only existed in her imagination and she really was infertile.]] infertile]].



*** The DLC ones, the Huntress and the Doppelgänger, are the only ones who subvert this trope because they weren't even supposed to be in the middle of this mayhem at all, so details about them are foggy. [[spoiler: Aurelia, the Huntress and Sir Hammerlock's sister, gets simply way too disgusted with Jack's newfound, growing ruthlessness, [[TokenEvilTeammate despise her being kin to all this violence and status stamping]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards and cut all ties after one too many lines crossed]].]] [[spoiler:And Timothy Lawrence, the Doppelgänger, being a body double to Jack himself, not only feels the same way as the former (despise only being evil, technically, [[PunchClockVillain by mortgage]]), but also is forever carrying the visage of the new Public Enemy #1, which puts ''his'' neck in the line of quite a few assassins. The game hints that he is constantly on the run because of this, and in so far his fate is the only unclear one of the whole cast.]]

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*** The DLC ones, the Huntress and the Doppelgänger, are the only ones who subvert this trope because they weren't even supposed to be in the middle of this mayhem at all, so details about them are foggy. [[spoiler: Aurelia, the Huntress and Sir Hammerlock's sister, gets simply way too disgusted with Jack's newfound, growing ruthlessness, [[TokenEvilTeammate despise her being kin to all this violence and status stamping]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards and cut all ties after one too many lines crossed]].]] [[spoiler:And And Timothy Lawrence, the Doppelgänger, being a body double to Jack himself, not only feels the same way as the former (despise only being evil, technically, [[PunchClockVillain by mortgage]]), but also is forever carrying the visage of the new Public Enemy #1, which puts ''his'' neck in the line of quite a few assassins. The game hints that he is constantly on the run because of this, and in so far his fate is the only unclear one of the whole cast.]]
24th Sep '17 11:43:16 PM ddyingle
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%% * ''Film/DragMeToHell''

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%% * ''Film/DragMeToHell''''Film/DragMeToHell''. It's right in the title.


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* ''Film/GodsOfEgypt'', along with a ForgottenFramingDevice sort.
24th Sep '17 11:28:06 PM ddyingle
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* ''Film/Ghost1990'' is a case where the advertising and in some cases even the subtitle "Message from Sam" do the Foregone Conclusion without the movie itself actually hinting at it at the beginning. If anyone went into that movie, not knowing that Sam will die, they must have been blind ''and'' deaf.

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* ''Film/Ghost1990'' is a case where the advertising and in some cases even the subtitle "Message from Sam" do the Foregone Conclusion ForegoneConclusion without the movie itself actually hinting at it at the beginning. If anyone went into that movie, not knowing that Sam will die, they must have been blind ''and'' deaf.
23rd Sep '17 12:53:15 PM Theatre_Maven_3695
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* We know what will happen to the Sun in a few billion years, and it doesn't look good for the Earth. We ''might'' know what will happen to the universe in a few more billion years, but science hasn't decided yet. Whatever it is, it doesn't look good for life in any case.
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17th Sep '17 3:55:01 PM shokoshu
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[[folder:Real Life]]
* We know what will happen to the Sun in a few billion years, and it doesn't look good for the Earth. We ''might'' know what will happen to the universe in a few more billion years, but science hasn't decided yet. Whatever it is, it doesn't look good for life in any case.
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30th Aug '17 5:51:54 PM BillyMT
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*** The DLC ones, the Huntress and the Doppelgänger, are the only ones who subvert this trope because they weren't even supposed to be in the middle of this mayhem at all, so details about them are foggy. [[spoiler: Aurelia, the Huntress and Sir Hammerlock's sister, gets simply way too disgusted with Jack's newfound, growing ruthlessness, [[TokenEvilTeammate despise her being kin to all this violence and status stamping]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards and cut all ties after one too many lines crossed]].]] [[spoiler:And Timothy Lawrence, the Doppelgänger, being a body double to Jack himself, not only feels the same way as the former (despise only being evil, technically, [[PunchClockVillain by mortgage]]), but also is forever carrying the visage of the new Public Enemy #1, which puts ''his'' neck in the line of quite a few assassins. The game hints that he is constantly on the run because of this, and in so far his fate is the only unclear one of the whole cast.]]
26th Aug '17 10:39:32 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* The background behind ''[[Videogame/RaySeries RayForce]]'' is that a planetary AI has gone haywire and is attempting to purge the Earth of its life and replace it with what the AI perceives to be superior versions of said life, leaving blowing up the planet as the only option left for humanity. The prequel ''[=RayCrisis=]'' is about the efforts to stop said AI's efforts, which naturally end in utter failure.

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* The background behind ''[[Videogame/RaySeries RayForce]]'' is that a planetary AI has gone haywire and is attempting to purge the Earth of its life and replace it with what the AI perceives to be superior versions of said life, leaving blowing up the planet as the only option left for humanity. The prequel ''[=RayCrisis=]'' is about the efforts to stop said AI's efforts, [[DoomedByCanon which naturally end in utter failure.failure]].
26th Aug '17 10:36:59 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* The background behind ''[[Videogame/RaySeries RayForce]]'' is that a planetary AI has gone haywire and is attempting to purge the Earth of its life and replace it with what the AI perceives to be superior versions of said life, leaving blowing up the planet as the only option left for humanity. The prequel ''[=RayCrisis=]'' is about the efforts to stop said AI's efforts, which naturally end in utter failure.
21st Aug '17 6:28:05 PM Psi001
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* The official {{Midquel}} ''Disney/BambiII'' also has one. [[spoiler:During the climax Bambi falls off a cliff and seemingly dies. The scene exists solely to galvanise the bond between him and his father from this near loss, since everyone in the audience knows Bambi has to live past half of the original film's chronology.]]
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