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5th Mar '18 7:37:19 PM ThemJohns
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* Two of the cards in ''Videogame/{{Hearthstone}}'' have 'Deathrattle' effects that simulate this trope. When Malorne is killed, it shuffles itself back into it's owner's deck, while Anub'arak will spawn a 4/4 Nerubian before returning to it's owner's hand.

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* Two of the A few cards in ''Videogame/{{Hearthstone}}'' have 'Deathrattle' effects that simulate this trope. When Astral Tiger or Malorne is killed, it shuffles itself back into it's owner's deck, while Anub'arak will spawn a 4/4 Nerubian before returning to it's owner's hand.hand. White Eyes gets shuffled back into the deck, but when he's drawn he's got [[CameBackStrong twice as much stats]].
28th Feb '18 5:58:58 PM thatother1dude
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* In ''WesternAnimation/OKKOLetsBeHeroes'' the protagonists are technically always fighting a shadow. Lord Boxman's robots aren't really fighting the heroes personally, they're using [[RemoteBody disposable, mass-produced shells that hold their minds]]; whenever something destroys one of their bodies, their consciousness just instantly downloads into a new one. This gets demonstrated in the first episode when Boxman seemingly kills an injured Darrell [[YouHaveFailedMe for failing him]], only to than casually continue their conversation once Darrell's new body is brought into the room.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/OKKOLetsBeHeroes'' the protagonists are technically always fighting a shadow. ''WesternAnimation/OKKOLetsBeHeroes'': Lord Boxman's robots aren't don't really fighting the heroes personally, they're using [[RemoteBody disposable, mass-produced shells that hold their minds]]; whenever something destroys one of their bodies, their consciousness just instantly downloads into a new one. This gets demonstrated in the first episode when Boxman seemingly kills an injured Darrell [[YouHaveFailedMe for failing him]], only to than casually continue their conversation once Darrell's new body is brought into the room.
9th Jan '18 6:15:06 PM EdwardGil
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* In the final book of the ''Franchise/BloodSword'' series, the "direct" path to StormingTheCastle is guarded by the Demon-lord, Tirikelu; a ShoutOut to the author's other work. Direct fighting it is likely a HopelessBossFight, but if you ''somehow'' do it...
** "By dint of tremendous luck and courage, you succeed in destroying the demon's earthly form. It vanishes. From what you know of demonology, it will not be able to manifest itself in the mortal world again for another hundred years. Of course, if your quest ends satisfactorily, then no demon will be able to appear in the mortal world ever again."
9th Jan '18 6:08:10 PM EdwardGil
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** There is a prophecy in the mythos that Cthulhu himself will be destroyed in the future. But he has planned for this; and his daughter Cthylla will [[ResurrectiveImmortality give birth to him again.]]
4th Jan '18 9:51:19 PM JMQwilleran
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** Kefka was a fan of this technique, using it to taunt and ultimately defeat General Leo

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** Kefka [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Kefka]] was a fan of this technique, using it to taunt and ultimately defeat General LeoLeo.
** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', Sephiroth manages to do this in a number of ways, though he doesn't have any inherent quality of always surviving death. The first times you see him in the game (when you can't fight him, and the characters wouldn't be up to it anyway), it's actually not his real body but Jenova's stuff, so killing it almost certainly would not kill him. When you finally get to him for the FinalBoss fights, you have to kill two physical OneWingedAngel forms in a row. After that, he was still hanging out in TheLifestream or something and pulled Cloud in to a mental battle. Even after being defeated, he still refuses to be dispersed in the Lifestream like a normal dead person, but instead eventually (in ''Advent Children'') sends out three avatars (who are separate persons from him) to look for what's left of Jenova. When they find it, one of them uses it to transform into Sephiroth, whom Cloud kills again. After ''that'', he's presumably gone for good.
*** The Sephiroth in ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' is apparently a more straightforward example, an embodiment of Cloud's inner darkness who will always return after being defeated by him. Cloud's fighting his own shadow, in a way. Okay, maybe it's not that straightforward.



* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', Sephiroth manages to do this in a number of ways, though he doesn't have any inherent quality of always surviving death. The first times you see him in the game (when you can't fight him, and the characters wouldn't be up to it anyway), it's actually not his real body but Jenova's stuff, so killing it almost certainly would not kill him. When you finally get to him for the FinalBoss fights, you have to kill two physical OneWingedAngel forms in a row. After that, he was still hanging out in TheLifestream or something and pulled Cloud in to a mental battle. Even after being defeated, he still refuses to be dispersed in the Lifestream like a normal dead person, but instead eventually (in ''Advent Children'') sends out three avatars (who are separate persons from him) to look for what's left of Jenova. When they find it, one of them uses it to transform into Sephiroth, whom Cloud kills again. After ''that'', he's presumably gone for good.
** The Sephiroth in ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' is apparently a more straightforward example, an embodiment of Cloud's inner darkness who will always return after being defeated by him. Cloud's fighting his own shadow, in a way. Okay, maybe it's not that straightforward.
2nd Jan '18 12:09:01 PM BeerBaron
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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', Daedric Lords cannot be killed. All you can do, even if you are the CrystalDragonJesus, is send them back to "the voids of Oblivion", from where they will eventually return.
** Ditto their associated artifacts: you can unmake one (you get a chance in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'') but it will always spawn back somewhere in Tamriel within a few years.
** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', the [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]] has to fight the [[TheHeavy dragon-god Alduin]] twice. After defeating him at the Throat of the World, Alduin retreats to the Nord heaven of Sovngarde, as he had the last time he was defeated, and begins consuming the souls of the dead to regain his strength. The Dragonborn has to pursue him there and fight him again to kill him permanently.

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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** The [[OurGodsAreDifferent
Daedric Lords Princes]] possess CompleteImmortality and thus, cannot truly be killed. "killed". All you can do, even if you are the CrystalDragonJesus, a full-blown PhysicalGod or even [[CrystalDragonJesus Akatosh]] himself, is send slay whatever physical form they have taken and banish them back to "the voids of Oblivion", from Oblivion, where they will eventually return.
reform. While they have been [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu beaten, battered]], and even ''[[HijackingCthulhu fundamentally changed]]'', nothing in the setting has ever been able to actually ''kill'' one. This is also true for [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]], though they tend to be much easier to slay.
** Ditto This is also the case for the [[LegendaryWeapon Daedric artifacts]] associated with the Princes. You can destroy or otherwise unmake them, but they will always reappear somewhere else in Tamriel after a few years, usually per the will of their associated artifacts: you can unmake one (you get a chance in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'') but it will always spawn back somewhere in Tamriel within a few years.
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** In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', you must defeat [[BigBad Dagoth Ur]] at the end of the main quest. In your first battle against him, he can be slain, but his body disappears and reappears in the next room. This time, he is at full blown PhysicalGod power and cannot be killed. (Instead, you must sever his ties to the source of his power, the [[CosmicKeystone Heart of Lorkhan]], which kills him for good.)
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', the BigBad is Alduin, the legendary [[DragonsAreDemonic draconic]] BeastOfTheApocalypse divinely tasked with "[[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt eating the world]]" so that it can be [[ViciousCycle remade anew]]. The
[[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]] has to must fight the [[TheHeavy dragon-god Alduin]] twice. After defeating him at twice, first atop the Throat of the World, World. After this defeat, Alduin retreats to the Nord heaven Nordic WarriorHeaven of Sovngarde, as where he had the last time he was defeated, and begins consuming consumes the souls of the recently dead (which, due Skyrim's CivilWar, there are plenty to regain his strength. be had) in order to grow more powerful. The Dragonborn has to must pursue him there and fight him once again in order to kill him permanently.actually defeat him. (And [[spoiler:given that the Dragonborn does not absorb Alduin's soul, the implication is that he will return to fulfill his duty at the appropriate time]].
27th Nov '17 10:37:53 AM chopshop
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* In the lore of ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends,'' [[YourWorstNightmare Nocturne]] is summoned to the material world due to a fluke involving a [[AppliedPhlebotinum Nexus]] near someone being attacked in their sleep. The Summoners chained Nocturne to this world, fearing that dispatching him would simply return him to the dream realm he occupied before.

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* In the lore of ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends,'' [[YourWorstNightmare Nocturne]] is summoned to the material world due to a fluke involving a [[AppliedPhlebotinum Nexus]] near someone being attacked in their sleep. The Summoners chained Nocturne to this world, fearing that dispatching him would ok simply return him to the dream realm he occupied before.


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* In ''WesternAnimation/OKKOLetsBeHeroes'' the protagonists are technically always fighting a shadow. Lord Boxman's robots aren't really fighting the heroes personally, they're using [[RemoteBody disposable, mass-produced shells that hold their minds]]; whenever something destroys one of their bodies, their consciousness just instantly downloads into a new one. This gets demonstrated in the first episode when Boxman seemingly kills an injured Darrell [[YouHaveFailedMe for failing him]], only to than casually continue their conversation once Darrell's new body is brought into the room.
23rd Nov '17 3:17:37 PM PrincessPandaTrope
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Not to be confused with fighting someone named Shadow.
11th Nov '17 11:49:42 AM boxorak
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** As of the comic [[TransformersTimelines "Another Light"]] Multiversal Singulaties no longer exist as a concept, and every version of any Multiversal Singularity character is now their own entity rather than this trope.
6th Sep '17 8:25:43 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Film/TheMatrix'', the Agents are computer programs working for those running the Matrix, so there's no reason they should stay dead. If you actually manage to kill one by the rules of the simulation, the "body" reverts back to the human it was originally and the Agent program claims a new host (out of anyone still plugged into the Matrix). DoubleSubversion when Neo destroys Smith at the end of the first movie, seemingly for good by destroying his code itself but ultimately only causes him to become more powerful in the next movie (instead of taking over a host when he's "killed", he can turn anyone and everyone he touches inside the program into another copy of himself, even if they are another program or not hardwired into the Matrix). It's unclear whether his ability to defy true deletion is a general rule (any agent so inclined could come back the way he did) or a property specific to Smith because of ''how'' he "died" or who killed him (just like Neo, he defies the laws of the Matrix to return to life when he should have died).

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* In ''Film/TheMatrix'', the Agents are computer programs working for those running the Matrix, so there's no reason they should stay dead. If you actually manage to kill one by the rules of the simulation, the "body" reverts back to the human it was originally and the Agent program claims a new host (out of anyone still plugged into the Matrix). DoubleSubversion when Neo destroys Smith at the end of the first movie, seemingly for good by destroying his code itself but ultimately only causes him to become more powerful in the next movie (instead of taking over a host when he's "killed", he can turn anyone and everyone he touches inside the program into another copy of himself, even if they are another program or not hardwired into the Matrix). It's unclear whether his ability to defy true deletion is a general rule (any agent so inclined could come back the way he did) or a property specific to Smith because of ''how'' he "died" or who killed him (just like Neo, he defies the laws of the Matrix to return to life when he should have died). Smith himself does manage to take out all the other Agents by infecting literally everyone in the Matrix, though whether this destroyed their programs or simply left them without any more bodies to use is unclear.
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