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25th Aug '16 4:26:29 PM PixelKnight
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* The Bloodgrem from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive''. It can't be killed, only "un-summoned", and it can always be summoned again.
** Nanase can summon a fairy version of herself which her mind can inhabit. If it is destroyed while she does so, she gets traumatic feedback from it, but her mind is returned to her body, and can then summon another fairy.
3rd Aug '16 10:05:39 PM JMQwilleran
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* In ''VideoGame/LostDimension'', when you first meet The End, Nagi tries to shoot him, but he's not really there, he's just sending a projection of some sort. You don't actually get to meet the real him until, well, the end.
18th Jul '16 11:27:30 AM matteste
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* Midway through ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', you fight against YHVH, aka God. Except it's not the real one, it's just a false image unconsciously created and empowered by the archangels. In the end, you fight the REAL one, even on Law. And even if you win, He says He will not truly be defeated - as long as there are people praying to him, he will return. The [[VideoGame/MegamiTenseiII other game He appears in]] has Him state that He's part of a much greater being who will constantly revive Him. [[spoiler:''Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse'' reveals that part of that is true - He is part of a larger being. However, this larger being hates YHVH with a passion and has been working to stop Him.]]

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* Midway through ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', you fight against YHVH, aka God. Except it's not the real one, it's just a false image unconsciously created and empowered by the archangels. In the end, you fight the REAL one, even on Law. And even if you win, He says He will not truly be defeated - as long as there are people praying to him, he will return. The [[VideoGame/MegamiTenseiII other game He appears in]] has Him state that He's part of a much greater being who will constantly revive Him. [[spoiler:''Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse'' [[spoiler:''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' reveals that part of that is true - He is part of a larger being. However, this larger being hates YHVH with a passion and has been working to stop Him.]]
11th Jul '16 6:18:08 PM DoctorTItanX
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* The 3-dimensional bodies of Tenchi Masaki, Washuu, Tsunami, and Tokimi in ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'', are just shadows of their true extremely higher-dimensional selves.

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* The 3-dimensional bodies of Tenchi Masaki, Washuu, Tsunami, and Tokimi in ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'', are just shadows of their true extremely higher-dimensional hyperdimensional selves.
27th May '16 12:30:31 PM merotoker
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** Later in the MagicWorld arc, Fate's minions use this to taunt Jack Rakan and Konoka after trapping them in their pocket dimension. Unfortunately for them, they were close enough for Chamo to [[TheNoseKnows spot them]].

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** Later in the MagicWorld [[MagicalLand Magic World]] arc, Fate's minions use this to taunt Jack Rakan and Konoka after trapping them in their pocket dimension. Unfortunately for them, they were close enough for Chamo to [[TheNoseKnows spot them]].



* As shown in the page image, [[Manga/OnePiece Gecko Moria]] uses his own shadow to play this trope literally, invoking Type III; the shadow acts as a BodyDouble, fighting in his place. It really can't be "killed"; Moria can control its shape at will anyway, so breaking it apart doesn't faze it. Moria can even teleport and swap places with the blasted thing!

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': As shown in the page image, [[Manga/OnePiece Gecko Moria]] Moria uses his own shadow to play this trope literally, invoking Type III; the shadow acts as a BodyDouble, fighting in his place. It really can't be "killed"; Moria can control its shape at will anyway, so breaking it apart doesn't faze it. Moria can even teleport and swap places with the blasted thing!



* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' Doctor Manhattan is treated as a PhysicalGod, but towards the end of the story he's revealed outright to be one of these when [[spoiler:Ozymandias disintegrates him; he simply comes back moments later (the first thing he learned to do with his new form, as he points out) with a new body and very, very angry. "The world's smartest man means no more to me than the world's smartest termite" indeed.]]

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' Doctor Manhattan is treated as a PhysicalGod, but towards the end of the story he's revealed outright to be one of these when [[spoiler:Ozymandias disintegrates him; he simply comes back moments later (the first thing he learned to do with his new form, as he points out) with a new body and very, very angry. "The world's smartest man means no more to me than the world's smartest termite" indeed.]]indeed]].



* One of the components of Corona and Princess Luna's NighInvulnerable status in FanFic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse. Not only are their physical forms spectacularly durable, if they are badly enough injured they can chose to simply discorporate and merge with the sun or moon to regenerate (though healing in this fashion would take them out of the picture for years, or even decades).

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* One of the components of Corona and Princess Luna's NighInvulnerable {{Nigh Invulnerab|ility}}le status in FanFic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse. Not only are their physical forms spectacularly durable, if they are badly enough injured they can chose to simply discorporate and merge with the sun or moon to regenerate (though healing in this fashion would take them out of the picture for years, or even decades).



*** {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d (like [[{{Troperiffic}} everything else]] in ''D&D'']]) in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0399.html strip ##399]].

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*** {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d (like [[{{Troperiffic}} everything else]] in ''D&D'']]) ''D&D'') in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0399.html strip ##399]].



** All this combined makes it a common strategy to have one or all of the above be the final bosses of published adventures, since many writers are understandably shy about killing off the primary NPCs of the setting, and most of the time, their stats only exist as a challenge to the LordBritishPostulate. A few good examples include ''Expedition to the Demonweb Pits'', which features a BossRush against a whole mess of mid-level Demon Prince Aspects, or ''Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk,'' which concludes with a battle against weakened MirrorUniverse versions or simulacrums of the Company of Seven.

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** All this combined makes it a common strategy to have one or all of the above be the final bosses of published adventures, since many writers are understandably shy about killing off the primary NPCs {{N|onPlayerCharacter}}PCs of the setting, and most of the time, their stats only exist as a challenge to the LordBritishPostulate. A few good examples include ''Expedition to the Demonweb Pits'', which features a BossRush against a whole mess of mid-level Demon Prince Aspects, or ''Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk,'' which concludes with a battle against weakened MirrorUniverse versions or simulacrums of the Company of Seven.



* This is the case with the antagonist Sin from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'', who always comes back after a period of tranquility that has come to be known as "The Calm". [[spoiler:In this case, it's a scam to make people think Sin is immortal, it's because the very method being used to "defeat" Sin actually fuels its reincarnation and return. What infected it then infects the Final Aeon that "killed" it]].

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* This is the case with the antagonist Sin from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'', who always comes back after a period of tranquility that has come to be known as "The Calm". [[spoiler:In this case, it's a scam to make people think Sin is immortal, it's because the very method being used to "defeat" Sin actually fuels its reincarnation and return. What infected it then infects the Final Aeon that "killed" it]].it.]]



** As is declassified in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', Ganondorf's existence is due to the dying curse of Demise, the GodOfEvil and BiggerBad. This same curse also affects Link and Zelda, forever trapping the three wielders of the Triforce in an eternal cycle of reincarnation and making the death of any of the three meaningless in the long run.

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** As is declassified in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', Ganondorf's existence is due to the dying curse of Demise, the GodOfEvil and BiggerBad.GreaterScopeVillain. This same curse also affects Link and Zelda, forever trapping the three wielders of the Triforce in an eternal cycle of reincarnation and making the death of any of the three meaningless in the long run.



** That's because [[spoiler: Harbinger is using a proxy - the Collector General - ostensibly to avoid what happened to Sovereign.]]

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** That's because [[spoiler: Harbinger is using a proxy - the Collector General - ostensibly to avoid what happened to Sovereign.]]Sovereign]].



*** Now you know how frustrated the computer feels when you're {{Save Scum}}ming.

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*** Now you know how frustrated the computer feels when you're {{Save Scum}}ming.SaveScumming.



* Explicitly stated what The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man is to Gozer in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'', hence it being banished in the first movie, "killed" in the [[VideoGame/GhostbustersTheVideoGame 2009 game]], then [[spoiler: implied to be killed again by Ivo at the end.]]

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* Explicitly stated what The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man is to Gozer in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'', ''Film/{{Ghostbusters|1984}}'', hence it being banished in the first movie, "killed" in the [[VideoGame/GhostbustersTheVideoGame 2009 game]], then [[spoiler: implied to be killed again by Ivo at the end.]]end]].



* Midway through ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', you fight against YHVH, aka God. Except it's not the real one, it's just a false image unconsciously created and empowered by the archangels. In the end, you fight the REAL one, even on Law. And even if you win, He says He will not truly be defeated - as long as there are people praying to him, he will return. The [[VideoGame/MegamiTenseiII other game He appears in]] has Him state that He's part of a much greater being who will constantly revive Him. [[spoiler:''Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse'' reveals that part of that is true - He is part of a larger being. However, this larger being hates YHVH with a passion and has been working to stop Him]].

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* Midway through ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', you fight against YHVH, aka God. Except it's not the real one, it's just a false image unconsciously created and empowered by the archangels. In the end, you fight the REAL one, even on Law. And even if you win, He says He will not truly be defeated - as long as there are people praying to him, he will return. The [[VideoGame/MegamiTenseiII other game He appears in]] has Him state that He's part of a much greater being who will constantly revive Him. [[spoiler:''Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse'' reveals that part of that is true - He is part of a larger being. However, this larger being hates YHVH with a passion and has been working to stop Him]].Him.]]



* In ''Webcomic/{{Digger}}'', when Shadowchild [[spoiler: meets with and eats a shadow of Sweetgrass Voice.]]

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Digger}}'', when Shadowchild [[spoiler: meets with and eats a shadow of Sweetgrass Voice.]]Voice]].



* In ''Literature/FineStructure'', [[spoiler:Zykov was just the container for the local manifestation of the BigBad. Killing himself wasn't surrender, it was just cutting out the middleman to MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning.]]

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* In ''Literature/FineStructure'', [[spoiler:Zykov was just the container for the local manifestation of the BigBad. Killing himself wasn't surrender, it was just cutting out the middleman to MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning.]]MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning]].



** There's also [[spoiler: [[NoSell The Siberian]], who is eventually revealed to be a projection created by William Manton.]]
** This is the case with [[spoiler:Scion/Zion too. His humanlike ChromeChampion appearance is AFormYouAreComfortableWith; his true form is a transdimensional SufficientlyAdvancedAlien whose size is measured in landmasses, meaning that any damage that manages to get through his NoSell can be quickly "patched over".]]

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** There's also [[spoiler: [[NoSell The Siberian]], who is eventually revealed to be a projection created by William Manton.]]
Manton]].
** This is the case with [[spoiler:Scion/Zion too. His humanlike ChromeChampion appearance is AFormYouAreComfortableWith; his true form is a transdimensional SufficientlyAdvancedAlien whose size is measured in landmasses, meaning that any damage that manages to get through his NoSell can be quickly "patched over".]]over"]].



** This is illustrated very creepily in the WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague episode "Twilight", where Hawkgirl smashes Brainiac to pieces, apparently killing him- only for the team to be immediately surrounded by ''dozens'' of identical Brainiacs, all of which are identical extensions of the central consciousness. Yikes.

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** This is illustrated very creepily in the WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' episode "Twilight", where Hawkgirl smashes Brainiac to pieces, apparently killing him- only for the team to be immediately surrounded by ''dozens'' of identical Brainiacs, all of which are identical extensions of the central consciousness. Yikes.
21st May '16 7:23:48 PM erforce
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* Explicitly stated what The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man is to Gozer in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'', hence it being banished in the first movie, "killed" in the [[VideoGame/GhostbustersTheVideoGame game]], then [[spoiler: implied to be killed again by Ivo at the end.]]

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* Explicitly stated what The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man is to Gozer in ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'', ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'', hence it being banished in the first movie, "killed" in the [[VideoGame/GhostbustersTheVideoGame 2009 game]], then [[spoiler: implied to be killed again by Ivo at the end.]]
29th Apr '16 5:19:31 PM Dravencour
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* Its awareness is mostly in the form it's taking in this universe; the death of this body merely returns it to its origin point like a rubber band being let go. These type tend to be vulnerable to DeaderThanDead if killed at said [[GoBackToTheSource origin point]].

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* Its awareness is mostly in the form it's taking in this universe; the death of this body merely returns it to its origin point like a rubber band being let go. These type types tend to be vulnerable to being made DeaderThanDead if killed at said [[GoBackToTheSource origin point]].
29th Apr '16 5:18:15 PM Dravencour
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Unfortunately -- he's coming back. You see, what you killed was just ''part'' of him. [[GodInHumanForm The physical part that was inhabiting our universe at the time]]. His reappearance isn't coming BackFromTheDead. It's regrowing a fingernail. This is how PowersThatBe can occasionally take things into their own hands without breaking Da Rules.

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Unfortunately -- he's coming back. You see, what you killed was just only ''part'' of him. [[GodInHumanForm The physical part that was inhabiting our universe at the time]]. His reappearance isn't coming BackFromTheDead. It's regrowing a fingernail. This is how PowersThatBe can occasionally take things into their own hands without breaking Da Rules.
16th Apr '16 8:43:34 AM finalsurvivor1
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* Midway through ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', you fight against YHVH, aka God. Except it's not the real one, it's just a false image unconsciously created and empowered by the archangels. In the end, if you're not choosing the Lawful path, you fight the REAL one. And even if you win, He says He will not truly be defeated - as long as there are people praying to him, he will return.
** The same holds true to any demon or god in the series. Killing them doesn't stop them from showing up in any of the other games, or even later in the same game. (Often it gives you [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt the right]] to {{summon|Magic}} them as {{Mon}}s.

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* Midway through ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', you fight against YHVH, aka God. Except it's not the real one, it's just a false image unconsciously created and empowered by the archangels. In the end, if you're not choosing the Lawful path, you fight the REAL one. one, even on Law. And even if you win, He says He will not truly be defeated - as long as there are people praying to him, he will return.
return. The [[VideoGame/MegamiTenseiII other game He appears in]] has Him state that He's part of a much greater being who will constantly revive Him. [[spoiler:''Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse'' reveals that part of that is true - He is part of a larger being. However, this larger being hates YHVH with a passion and has been working to stop Him]].
** The same holds true to any demon or god in the series. Killing them doesn't stop them from showing up in any of the other games, or even later in the same game. (Often Often it gives you [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt the right]] to {{summon|Magic}} them as {{Mon}}s.{{Mon}}s, provided they're not the FinalBoss of the game.
26th Mar '16 2:34:04 PM ultimomant
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* ''Fanfic/TheBridge'': Bagan's minions Enjin, Doragon, and Mizu are but avatars of the true beasts who inhabit Bagan's body and can be re-summoned if destroyed.
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