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4th Nov '17 8:10:19 AM Sabrewing
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* At the end of ''Film/TheNextKarateKid'', Mr. Miyagi takes on Colonel Dugan. Each of Dugan's thrown punches are prefaced with a very obvious pause, even when they're the lead-in of a cut to a new camera shot.
2nd Nov '17 6:14:36 PM rjd1922
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* One criticism of the 2016 reboot of ''WesternAnimation/{{The Powerpuff Girls|2016}}'' is that along with there being less action overall, when there are fight scenes, the Powerpuff Girl's punches are too slow and don't really have much impact.

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* One criticism of the 2016 reboot of ''WesternAnimation/{{The Powerpuff Girls|2016}}'' is that along with there being less action overall, when there are fight scenes, the Powerpuff Girl's Girls' punches are too slow and don't really have much impact.
16th Oct '17 1:32:32 PM rjd1922
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* One criticism of the 2016 reboot of ''WesternAnimation/{{The Powerpuff Girls|2016}}'' is that along with there being less action overall, when there are fight scenes, the Powerpuff Girl's punches are too slow and don't really have much impact.
16th Oct '17 9:44:29 AM triton
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** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', the scene where Windu confronts Darth Sidious is undercut by him apparently bringing two of the ''worst Jedi ever'' to back him up. Sidious activates his lightsaber, jumps at them twirling through the air, and lands directly in front of them. They raise their swords slightly. Sidious makes an extremely telegraphed thrust at one of them, and he responds by... looking at him, since for some inexplicable reason, he was gazing off to the side. While he's getting stabbed through the chest, his compatriot responds by raising his sword a bit higher, as though he thinks you need to put a lot of strength into a blow while using a weapon that cuts through anything, then gets sliced open. It's probably supposed to be happening too fast for them to react, but it's a pretty slow scene at that point. Ian [=McDiarmid=] was forced to do his own stunts for this scene, and the actors were only given one day to learn the choreography, whereas for their fight, Creator/HaydenChristensen and Creator/EwanMcGregor got to train for months.
** It has been argued that the climactic fight from the ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' between Darth Maul and Obi-Wan & Qui-Gon actually suffers from being extremely ''over''choreographed, and has several swings, parries, dodges, and twirls that are just there to look flashy but doesn't make sense if you look closer at it. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw This video perhaps explains it best]].
3rd Oct '17 11:00:38 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/Daredevil2015'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured". A big example is when Jessica fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it's understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk. Justified, since she IS an alcoholic. However, in the fight scenes between people with powers, the choreography works better.
* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' was praised for having awesome action scenes until Season 4 which, despite having a stunt choreographer directing a few episodes, had very sloppy fight scenes. Pretty much every fighter in the show goes through BadassDecay. In many cases, the scenes seem to be what can only be described as {{Flynning}} without swords. The worst-received part of this by fans is that, despite the show being ''called'' "Arrow", very few arrows were fired per episode and some episodes featured no arrows being fired. This culminated in a final battle that started off fine, but ended up as the BigBad and the Green Arrow punching each other in the face in a cartoonish way.

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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/Daredevil2015'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured". A big example is when Jessica fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it's understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk. Justified, since she IS an alcoholic. However, in the Of particular note is her fight scenes between people scene with powers, the choreography works better.
Luke Cage, where she tries to stop him from moving by pushing him... and he just keeps walking, creating this hilarious scene where she's ineffectually leaning against him.
* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' was praised for having awesome action scenes until Season 4 which, despite having a stunt choreographer directing a few episodes, had very sloppy fight scenes. Pretty much every fighter in the show goes through BadassDecay. In many cases, the scenes seem to be what can only be described as {{Flynning}} without swords. The worst-received part of this by fans is that, despite the show being ''called'' "Arrow", very few arrows were fired per episode and some episodes featured no arrows being fired. fired, and the bad camerawork exposes these flaws even more, with many deriding the fight scenes as "modern dance". This culminated in a final battle that started off fine, but ended up as the BigBad and the Green Arrow punching each other in the face in a cartoonish way.way (as in literally taking turns).
2nd Oct '17 9:51:47 PM PhantomRider
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**In other shows, expect Wolvie vs. Sabes to always come down to wrestling matches in which claws never connect with flesh.
3rd Sep '17 12:06:19 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/KinjiteForbiddenSubjects'': It's hilariously obvious that Bronson was too old for any strenuous fight scenes at this point in his career, which constantly cut between close-up and wide angle shots to hide the fact that a stand-in is clearly performing all the kicks and punches.

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* ''Film/KinjiteForbiddenSubjects'': It's hilariously obvious that Charles Bronson was too old for any strenuous fight scenes at this point in his career, which constantly cut between close-up and wide angle shots to hide the fact that a stand-in is clearly performing all the kicks and punches.
2nd Sep '17 5:45:46 AM MCanter89
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Of course, this can be a matter of opinion, though some of the examples that follow are so bad that they fail even the most generous benefit of the doubt. Compare SpecialEffectFailure - when they overlap this is often an example of WhenPropsAttack. See WimpFight, WhatTheFuAreYouDoing and FakeSpecialAttack for when this is done deliberately. If the Fight Scene Failure fails and someone really ''does'' get hit, expect the producers to ThrowItIn.

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Of course, this can be a matter of opinion, though some of the examples that follow are so bad that they fail even the most generous benefit of the doubt. Compare SpecialEffectFailure - when they overlap overlap, this is often an example of WhenPropsAttack. See WimpFight, WhatTheFuAreYouDoing WhatTheFuAreYouDoing, and FakeSpecialAttack for when this is done deliberately. If the Fight Scene Failure fails and someone really ''does'' get hit, expect the producers to ThrowItIn.



** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', the scene where Windu confronts Darth Sidious is undercut by him apparently bringing two of the ''worst Jedi ever'' to back him up. Sidious activates his lightsaber, jumps at them twirling through the air, and lands directly in front of them. They raise their swords slightly. Sidious makes an extremely telegraphed thrust at one of them, and he responds by... looking at him, since for some inexplicable reason he was gazing off to the side. While he's getting stabbed through the chest, his compatriot responds by raising his sword a bit higher, as though he thinks you need to put a lot of strength into a blow while using a weapon that cuts though anything, then gets sliced open. It's probably supposed to be happening too fast for them to react, but it's a pretty slow scene at that point. Ian [=McDiarmid=] was forced to do his own stunts for this scene and the actors were only given one day to learn the choreography, whereas for their fight, Creator/HaydenChristensen and Creator/EwanMcGregor got to train for months.
** It has been argued that the climatic fight from the ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' between Darth Maul and Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, actually suffers from being extremely ''over''choreographed, and has several swings, parries, dodges, and twirls that just there to look flashy but doesn't make sense if you look closer at it. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw This video perhaps explains it best]].

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** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', the scene where Windu confronts Darth Sidious is undercut by him apparently bringing two of the ''worst Jedi ever'' to back him up. Sidious activates his lightsaber, jumps at them twirling through the air, and lands directly in front of them. They raise their swords slightly. Sidious makes an extremely telegraphed thrust at one of them, and he responds by... looking at him, since for some inexplicable reason reason, he was gazing off to the side. While he's getting stabbed through the chest, his compatriot responds by raising his sword a bit higher, as though he thinks you need to put a lot of strength into a blow while using a weapon that cuts though through anything, then gets sliced open. It's probably supposed to be happening too fast for them to react, but it's a pretty slow scene at that point. Ian [=McDiarmid=] was forced to do his own stunts for this scene scene, and the actors were only given one day to learn the choreography, whereas for their fight, Creator/HaydenChristensen and Creator/EwanMcGregor got to train for months.
** It has been argued that the climatic climactic fight from the ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' between Darth Maul and Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, & Qui-Gon actually suffers from being extremely ''over''choreographed, and has several swings, parries, dodges, and twirls that are just there to look flashy but doesn't make sense if you look closer at it. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw This video perhaps explains it best]].



* Parodied at the end of ''Film/{{Bowfinger}}'', showing a FightScene from the kung-fu movie "Fake Purse Ninjas."

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* Parodied at the end of ''Film/{{Bowfinger}}'', showing a FightScene from the in-universe kung-fu movie "Fake ''Fake Purse Ninjas."Ninjas''.



* ''Film/TheManWhoSavesTheWorld'' (aka "Turkish StarWars") as a whole. Especially [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKn1I60wgv0 the climatic battle.]]

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* ''Film/TheManWhoSavesTheWorld'' (aka "Turkish StarWars") as a whole. Especially [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKn1I60wgv0 the climatic climactic battle.]]



24th Aug '17 9:47:52 AM Theatre_Maven_3695
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* Pretty much anyone in Creator/UweBoll's ''Film/BloodRayne'', as the delivery of strikes are very stiff. And just to hammer it in, the last 5 minutes is a gratuitous slow motion montage of the over the top blood effects, allowing you to see the already bad choreography look even worse.

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* Pretty much anyone in Creator/UweBoll's Uwe Boll's ''Film/BloodRayne'', as the delivery of strikes are very stiff. And just to hammer it in, the last 5 minutes is a gratuitous slow motion montage of the over the top blood effects, allowing you to see the already bad choreography look even worse.
17th Aug '17 3:26:47 PM dmcreif
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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/Daredevil2015'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured". A big example is when Jessica fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it's understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk. However, in the fight scenes between people with powers, the choreography works better.

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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/Daredevil2015'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured". A big example is when Jessica fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it's understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk. Justified, since she IS an alcoholic. However, in the fight scenes between people with powers, the choreography works better.
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