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18th Aug '16 3:16:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/KinjiteForbiddenSubjects'': It's hilariously obvious that Bronson was too old for any strenuous fight scenes at this point in his career, which constantly cut between close-up and wide angle shots to hide the fact that a stand-in is clearly performing all the kicks and punches.
25th Jul '16 2:26:30 PM IncredibleFulk1
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** Pictured above is the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_kick "force kick"]] from ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' where a mook reacts to being kicked despite Luke's foot hitting nothing but air, so fans devised the joke explanation that he was actually using the Force. Years later, this became AscendedFanon when ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' used it as the Jedi Knight's interrupt ability.

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** Pictured In an otherwise iconic fight action scene, pictured above is the [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_kick "force kick"]] from ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' where a mook reacts to being kicked despite Luke's foot hitting nothing but air, so fans air. Fans devised the joke explanation that he was actually using the Force. Years later, this became AscendedFanon when ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' used it as the Jedi Knight's interrupt ability.



** ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', again, has a jarring ''moment'' of failure rather than the whole thing; the Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan versus Darth Maul fight is often considered the best one in all six movies. But at the end, Obi-Wan leaps right over Maul's head, lands in front of him, and cuts him in two. It takes about five seconds, during which time Maul looks at him with a vaguely confused expression as though having trouble processing that this guy is still trying to kill him, and does absolutely nothing to defend himself. After Maul fighting off two Jedi at once, this seems like an absurd loss of competence. Or a very good example of Sith arrogance.



** Any moment in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' in which Ewoks fight Stormtroopers. These are tiny aliens with Stone Age weapons fighting fully grown men in armor. In close combat, it looks like they're gently tapping the Stormtroopers with their weapons and their projectile weapons, which are mostly thrown rocks, look like they'd be little more than an annoyance to men with helmets and armor.
17th Jul '16 10:24:12 AM nombretomado
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* In a fantasy sequence at the beginning of ''Film/{{Sidekicks}}'', the main character and ChuckNorris manage a simultaneous kick into the face of a {{Mook}} who...freezes for a second, then falls down.

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* In a fantasy sequence at the beginning of ''Film/{{Sidekicks}}'', the main character and ChuckNorris Creator/ChuckNorris manage a simultaneous kick into the face of a {{Mook}} who...freezes for a second, then falls down.
3rd Jul '16 5:41:40 PM nombretomado
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* The first ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' movies followed strict violence guidelines, which forbid the characters from using their "tools" (LEGO still shied away from using the word "weapon" at the time) for their intended purpose. Thus we get scenes like Tahu storming onto a villain, flipping in the air above it, flashing his Magma Swords, planting them into the ground, and sending small lines of fire ''around'' the villain, making it... annoyed at the hot air? This was phased out later, and the fourth movie had tons of genuine physical combat, although the characters would take awkward, second-long pauses after every swipe, and in one shot, a villain chasing one of the heroes simply vanished when the camera panned to the side.

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* The first ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Bionicle}}'' movies followed strict violence guidelines, which forbid the characters from using their "tools" (LEGO still shied away from using the word "weapon" at the time) for their intended purpose. Thus we get scenes like Tahu storming onto a villain, flipping in the air above it, flashing his Magma Swords, planting them into the ground, and sending small lines of fire ''around'' the villain, making it... annoyed at the hot air? This was phased out later, and the fourth movie had tons of genuine physical combat, although the characters would take awkward, second-long pauses after every swipe, and in one shot, a villain chasing one of the heroes simply vanished when the camera panned to the side.
1st Jun '16 4:08:36 PM Gimere
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Sometimes this is pulled off extremely well, making for one hell of a great fight scene. This page is not about those times.

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Sometimes this is pulled off extremely well, making for one hell of a great fight scene. [[WellThisIsNotThatTrope This page is not about those times.
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Of course, this can be a matter of opinion, though some of the examples that follow are so bad that they fail even the most generous benefit of the doubt. Compare SpecialEffectFailure. See WimpFight, WhatTheFuAreYouDoing and FakeSpecialAttack for when this is done deliberately. If the Fight Scene Failure fails and someone really does get hit, expect the producers to ThrowItIn.

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Of course, this can be a matter of opinion, though some of the examples that follow are so bad that they fail even the most generous benefit of the doubt. Compare SpecialEffectFailure. See WimpFight, WhatTheFuAreYouDoing and FakeSpecialAttack for when this is done deliberately. If the Fight Scene Failure fails and someone really does ''does'' get hit, expect the producers to ThrowItIn.
1st Jun '16 11:53:49 AM YourMindAches
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' Season 5 episode, "Unbent, Unbow, Unbroken", where the fight scene between Jaime and Bronn vs. the Sand Snakes is [[http://i.imgur.com/t65ZXGa.gif poorly choreographed]] which some reviewers compared it to ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' as opposed to the show's usual quality. The editing is also seen as questionable. The short time allowed on the Dorne set and restrictive budget probably contributed.
* ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'''s fight scenes are universally praised... except the last one. While the rest of the series' fights are very realistic and authentic looking, the last one just looks incredibly staged. In one scene, Fisk literally charges like a bull, as if he were a videogame boss and Matt does what you'd expect someone to do in a videogame.
* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this ''in spades'', to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured." A big example is when Jess fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it;s understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' Season 5 episode, "Unbent, Unbow, Unbroken", where the fight scene between Jaime and Bronn vs. the Sand Snakes is [[http://i.imgur.com/t65ZXGa.gif gifv poorly choreographed]] which some reviewers compared it to ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' as opposed to the show's usual quality. The editing is also seen as questionable. The short time allowed on the Dorne set and restrictive budget probably contributed.
* ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'''s fight scenes are universally praised... except the last one.one of Season 1. While the rest of the series' fights are very realistic and authentic looking, the last one just looks incredibly staged. In one scene, Fisk literally charges like a bull, as if he were a videogame boss and Matt does what you'd expect someone to do in a videogame.
* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this ''in spades'', to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured." A big example is when Jess fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it;s it's understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk.
drunk. However, when fight scenes between people with powers finally get in gear, they are ''awesome''.
* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' was praised for having awesome action scenes until Season 4 which, despite having a stunt choreographer directing a few episodes, had very sloppy fight scenes. Pretty much every fighter in the show goes through BadassDecay. In many cases, the scenes seem to be what can only be described as {{Flynning}} without swords. The worst-received part of this by fans is that, despite the show being ''called'' "Arrow", very few arrows were fired per episode and some episodes featured no arrows being fired. This culminated in a final battle that started off fine, but ended up as the BigBad and the Green Arrow punching each other in the face in a cartoonish way.
3rd Apr '16 11:28:55 PM erforce
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* Done intentionally in the opening fight of ''TeamAmerica'' as Joe grapples with a terrorist; the puppets are just flailing around and getting tangled up. Later in the film, the fight scenes are better done. The commentary reveals that the puppeteers were good enough they could have actually done all the fight scenes realistically, but decided to go for RuleOfFunny after realizing the results were actually ''too'' realistic and crossed into the UncannyValley.

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* Done intentionally in the opening fight of ''TeamAmerica'' ''Film/TeamAmericaWorldPolice'' as Joe grapples with a terrorist; the puppets are just flailing around and getting tangled up. Later in the film, the fight scenes are better done. The commentary reveals that the puppeteers were good enough they could have actually done all the fight scenes realistically, but decided to go for RuleOfFunny after realizing the results were actually ''too'' realistic and crossed into the UncannyValley.



* ''Film/IpMan 2'' contains a rather funny moment at the reyert caused by Twister in his first step into the ring. One of the kung fu trainees gets punched in the face (hard, but just once, and so fast that it can be easily unseen by eye) and he suddenly starts to twitch and flail his arms for some long seconds until he gets held by another trainee. It only looks like the punch gave the poor guy a seizure.

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* ''Film/IpMan 2'' ''Film/IpMan2'' contains a rather funny moment at the reyert caused by Twister in his first step into the ring. One of the kung fu trainees gets punched in the face (hard, but just once, and so fast that it can be easily unseen by eye) and he suddenly starts to twitch and flail his arms for some long seconds until he gets held by another trainee. It only looks like the punch gave the poor guy a seizure.
2nd Apr '16 6:27:21 PM JackG
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* Lampshaded in the Australian comedy ''Hercules Returns'' whose plot involves a GagDub of an Italian sword-and-sandal movie. "Why did you all fall down? I missed the lot of ya!"
26th Mar '16 1:55:58 AM Mullane
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** The Legend of Chun-Li is ''worse'' in this regard. Just look up the clip of her doing the "spinning bird kick" and prepare to cringe.

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** The Legend of Chun-Li is ''worse'' in this regard. Just [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjtfeq1t1Rc look up the clip of her at her]] doing the "spinning bird kick" and prepare to cringe.
21st Mar '16 10:11:51 PM troperHearts
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* The ''Film/StreetFighter'' had very stiff choreography for Bison's and Guile's final fight due to actor Raul Julia being in the advanced stages of cancer at the time. The fight itself can be completely described as Guile landing cool kicks on Bison while the baddie tries repeteadly to grab his throat.

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* The ''Film/StreetFighter'' had very stiff choreography for Bison's and Guile's final fight due to actor Raul Julia being in the advanced stages of cancer at the time. The fight itself can be completely described as Guile landing cool kicks on Bison while the baddie tries repeteadly to grab his throat.him like some kind of scrub player.
** The Legend of Chun-Li is ''worse'' in this regard. Just look up the clip of her doing the "spinning bird kick" and prepare to cringe.
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