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17th Aug '17 3:26:47 PM dmcreif
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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/Daredevil2015'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured". A big example is when Jessica fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it's understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk. However, in the fight scenes between people with powers, the choreography works better.

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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/Daredevil2015'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured". A big example is when Jessica fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it's understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk. Justified, since she IS an alcoholic. However, in the fight scenes between people with powers, the choreography works better.
23rd Jul '17 9:26:13 PM KingLyger
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* The ''Series/GameOfThrones'' Season 5 episode, "Unbent, Unbow, Unbroken", where the fight scene between Jaime and Bronn vs. the Sand Snakes is [[http://i.imgur.com/t65ZXGa.gifv poorly choreographed]], which some reviewers compared it to ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' as opposed to the show's usual quality. The editing is also seen as questionable. The short time allowed on the Dorne set and restrictive budget probably contributed.

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* The ''Series/GameOfThrones'' Season 5 episode, "Unbent, Unbow, Unbroken", where the fight scene between Jaime and Bronn vs. the Sand Snakes is [[http://i.imgur.com/t65ZXGa.gifv poorly choreographed]], which some reviewers compared it to ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'' as opposed to the show's usual quality. The editing is also seen as questionable. The short time allowed on the Dorne set and restrictive budget probably contributed. The show's producers decided to [[ThrowItIn add this to the plotline]] in the season 7 episode "Stormborn." [[spoiler:Obara and Nymeria Sand both die in a battle with Euron, showing they weren't really as good in combat as they thought they were.]]
10th Jun '17 9:56:12 AM erforce
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* Pretty much any ''Franchise/XMen'' series has this problem, save for the ''Wolverine vs. Hulk'' short movie, when showing Wolverine fighting, since they are often aimed at kids and therefore heavily toned down in visible violence. Since his entire powers are to cut things apart with his retractable claws and [[HealingFactor heal from wounds]], writers often go out of their way to make him miss any living opponent he fights, sometimes with rather silly moments. Basically, you may choose from the following for Wolverine's enemies: MechaMook, NoSell, GoodThingYouCanHeal. Otherwise Wolvie's gonna tackle someone.

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* Pretty much any ''Franchise/XMen'' series has this problem, save for the ''Wolverine ''[[WesternAnimation/HulkVs Hulk vs. Hulk'' Wolverine]]'' short movie, when showing Wolverine fighting, since they are often aimed at kids and therefore heavily toned down in visible violence. Since his entire powers are to cut things apart with his retractable claws and [[HealingFactor heal from wounds]], writers often go out of their way to make him miss any living opponent he fights, sometimes with rather silly moments. Basically, you may choose from the following for Wolverine's enemies: MechaMook, NoSell, GoodThingYouCanHeal. Otherwise Wolvie's gonna tackle someone.
29th Apr '17 5:28:05 PM The12thDoctor
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27th Mar '17 5:17:04 PM StFan
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* The part of ''FanFic/TheEndOfEnds'' in which Count Logan beats up his enemies with his cane is especially poorly animated. For example, he and Terra jump at each other, and he seemingly hits her in the shoulder, only to cut to him hitting her on the chin and her kicking him in the chest, resulting in both falling to the ground, not to mention that some of the sounds of the fight get repeated.

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* The part of ''FanFic/TheEndOfEnds'' ''Fanfic/TheEndOfEnds'' in which Count Logan beats up his enemies with his cane is especially poorly animated. For example, he and Terra jump at each other, and he seemingly hits her in the shoulder, only to cut to him hitting her on the chin and her kicking him in the chest, resulting in both falling to the ground, not to mention that some of the sounds of the fight get repeated.
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* The first ''WesternAnimation/{{Bionicle}}'' movies followed strict violence guidelines, which forbid the characters from using their "tools" (LEGO still shied away from using the word "weapon" at the time) for their intended purpose. Thus we get scenes like Tahu storming onto a villain, flipping in the air above it, flashing his Magma Swords, planting them into the ground, and sending small lines of fire ''around'' the villain, making it... annoyed at the hot air? This was phased out later, and the fourth movie had tons of genuine physical combat, although the characters would take awkward, second-long pauses after every swipe, and in one shot, a villain chasing one of the heroes simply vanished when the camera panned to the side.

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* The first ''WesternAnimation/{{Bionicle}}'' movies followed follow strict violence guidelines, which forbid the characters from using their "tools" (LEGO still shied away from using the word "weapon" at the time) for their intended purpose. Thus we get scenes like Tahu storming onto a villain, flipping in the air above it, flashing his Magma Swords, planting them into the ground, and sending small lines of fire ''around'' the villain, making it... annoyed at the hot air? This was phased out later, and the fourth movie had tons of genuine physical combat, although the characters would take awkward, second-long pauses after every swipe, and in one shot, a villain chasing one of the heroes simply vanished when the camera panned to the side.
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* At the end of ''Film/{{Leviathan 1989}}'', when Peter Weller punches the CorruptCorporateExecutive there's at least three inches of air between his fist and her.

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* At the end of ''Film/{{Leviathan 1989}}'', ''Film/{{Leviathan|1989}}'', when Peter Weller punches the CorruptCorporateExecutive there's at least three inches of air between his fist and her.



* Happens in-universe in the ''Film/MortalKombat'' film, where Johnny Cage is making another kung-fu film. He hits a {{Mook}} actor, who does a NoSell. Johnny has to remind him "This is where you fall down", before the guy promptly drops. Needless to say, they have to re-shoot the scene. In-between takes, Johnny meets his martial arts teacher (actually [[BigBad Shang Tsung]] in disguise) and complains that people think everything he does is fake.
** In the [[Film/MortalKombatAnnihilation sequel]]'', Raiden's fight with a pair of ninjas looks less like fighting and more like rhythmic gymnastics given the constant flips and twirls while both parties are over ten feet from each other.
* In a fantasy sequence at the beginning of ''Film/{{Sidekicks}}'', the main character and Creator/ChuckNorris manage a simultaneous kick into the face of a {{Mook}} who...freezes for a second, then falls down.

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* ''Film/MortalKombat'':
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Happens in-universe in the ''Film/MortalKombat'' first film, where Johnny Cage is making another kung-fu film. He hits a {{Mook}} actor, who does a NoSell. Johnny has to remind him "This is where you fall down", before the guy promptly drops. Needless to say, they have to re-shoot the scene. In-between takes, Johnny meets his martial arts teacher (actually [[BigBad Shang Tsung]] in disguise) and complains that people think everything he does is fake.
** In the [[Film/MortalKombatAnnihilation sequel]]'', sequel]], Raiden's fight with a pair of ninjas looks less like fighting and more like rhythmic gymnastics given the constant flips and twirls while both parties are over ten feet from each other.
* In a fantasy sequence at the beginning of ''Film/{{Sidekicks}}'', the main character and Creator/ChuckNorris manage a simultaneous kick into the face of a {{Mook}} who... freezes for a second, then falls down.



* ''Film/StreetFighter'' had very stiff choreography for Bison's and Guile's final fight due to actor Raul Julia being in the advanced stages of cancer at the time. The fight itself can be completely described as Guile landing cool kicks on Bison while the baddie tries repeatedly to grab him like some kind of scrub player.

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* ''Film/StreetFighter'' had ''Film/StreetFighter'':
** The film has
very stiff choreography for Bison's and Guile's final fight due to actor Raul Julia being in the advanced stages of cancer at the time. The fight itself can be completely described as Guile landing cool kicks on Bison while the baddie tries repeatedly to grab him like some kind of scrub player.



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** "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E18Arena}} Arena]]": [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eFdUSnaQM "Worst Fight Scene Ever"]]; the guy in the Gorn suit moves slowly, apparently in an attempt to make the Gorn look big and ponderous... but it makes the fight seem ridiculous. The Gorn also doesn't seem to be able to use his super-strength to overpower Kirk or use his big teeth to bite.

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** "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E18Arena}} "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E18Arena Arena]]": [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eFdUSnaQM "Worst Fight Scene Ever"]]; the guy in the Gorn suit moves slowly, apparently in an attempt to make the Gorn look big and ponderous... but it makes the fight seem ridiculous. The Gorn also doesn't seem to be able to use his super-strength to overpower Kirk or use his big teeth to bite.



** The fight scene between Kirk and Spock in "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E1AmokTime Amok Time]]", which doesn't look so much like a fight scene as like a sex scene. This was likely deliberate, as the man who wrote the episode (Creator/TheodoreSturgeon) was infamous for putting gay subtext into his works ... and using asphyxiation as a metaphor for sex.
** In the BarBrawl scene of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E15TheTroubleWithTribbles}} The Trouble with Tribbles]]", Scotty punches a Klingon across the room--without touching him. Maybe Scotty can use TheForce like Luke?

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** The fight scene between Kirk and Spock in "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E1AmokTime Amok Time]]", which doesn't look so much like a fight scene as like a sex scene. This was likely deliberate, as the man who wrote the episode (Creator/TheodoreSturgeon) was infamous for putting gay subtext into his works ...works... and using asphyxiation as a metaphor for sex.
** In the BarBrawl scene of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E15TheTroubleWithTribbles}} "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E15TheTroubleWithTribbles The Trouble with Tribbles]]", Scotty punches a Klingon across the room--without touching him. Maybe Scotty can use TheForce like Luke?



** The episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E3CodeOfHonor}} Code of Honor]]" has a particularly inept fight scene at the episode's climax, with most of the action being shot from the same camera angle, and the two combatants (Tasha Yar and an alien woman) standing on what looks like a children's climbing frame and mostly just flailing around at each other with spiked gloves. This was largely due to the episode's director having been fired the day before the sequence was shot, and the first assistant director -- who had never directed ''anything'' before, much less an action sequence -- having to take over.
** In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E6TheSchizoidMan}} The Schizoid Man]]" a dying scientist uploaded his consciousness to Data's positronic brain, the possessed Data strikes Captain Picard. Data swings his arm camera-right, Picard spins camera-''left'' as he staggers camera-right.

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** The episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E3CodeOfHonor}} "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E3CodeOfHonor Code of Honor]]" has a particularly inept fight scene at the episode's climax, with most of the action being shot from the same camera angle, and the two combatants (Tasha Yar and an alien woman) standing on what looks like a children's climbing frame and mostly just flailing around at each other with spiked gloves. This was largely due to the episode's director having been fired the day before the sequence was shot, and the first assistant director -- who had never directed ''anything'' before, much less an action sequence -- having to take over.
** In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E6TheSchizoidMan}} "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E6TheSchizoidMan The Schizoid Man]]" a dying scientist uploaded his consciousness to Data's positronic brain, the possessed Data strikes Captain Picard. Data swings his arm camera-right, Picard spins camera-''left'' as he staggers camera-right.



* Many fights on ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' are made of this trope. Also, any time swords are brought on to either ''Buffy'' or ''Series/{{Angel}}''. Overlaps with Obvious StuntDouble when Buffy and Angel swordfight in the season 2 finale. As soon as the camera pulls back, Buffy grows several inches, and Angel has a drastically receding hairline. {{Lampshaded}} by Creator/JossWhedon in his DVD commentary for "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS4E10Hush}} Hush]]": "Look! Buffy's strapped on her fighting boobs!"

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* Many fights on ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' are made of this trope. Also, any time swords are brought on to either ''Buffy'' or ''Series/{{Angel}}''. Overlaps with Obvious StuntDouble ObviousStuntDouble when Buffy and Angel swordfight in the season 2 finale. As soon as the camera pulls back, Buffy grows several inches, and Angel has a drastically receding hairline. {{Lampshaded}} by Creator/JossWhedon in his DVD commentary for "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS4E10Hush}} Hush]]": "Look! Buffy's strapped on her fighting boobs!"



* ''Series/{{Chuck}}'' had this in its Season 2 final. Chuck has an IKnowKarate moment, and his actor had clearly very little stage fighting experience. They must have worked on it in the off-season break, as he's much much better in season 3.
** And used as a plot-point in Season 3. Shaw fakes a rescue of Chuck and Sarah which includes shooting 3 enemy agents, and having a fight with 2 more. There is some horrible stage fighting, with punches and kicks being missed all over the place. It turns out that he's a double agent and the fight was staged intentionally.
** It's also telling that the only person who figured out that Shaw was faking was Morgan, thanks to many-many hours of watching bad [[{{Wuxia}} kung-fu movies]]. All the CIA/NSA experts watching the footage took it at face value.

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* ''Series/{{Chuck}}'' had this in its ''Series/{{Chuck}}'':
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Season 2 final. final: Chuck has an IKnowKarate moment, and his actor had clearly very little stage fighting experience. They must have worked on it in the off-season break, as he's much much better in season 3.
** And used as a plot-point in Season 3. Shaw fakes a rescue of Chuck and Sarah which includes shooting 3 three enemy agents, and having a fight with 2 two more. There is some horrible stage fighting, with punches and kicks being missed all over the place. It turns out that he's a double agent and the fight was staged intentionally.
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intentionally. It's also telling that the only person who figured out that Shaw was faking was Morgan, thanks to many-many hours of watching bad [[{{Wuxia}} kung-fu movies]]. All the CIA/NSA experts watching the footage took it at face value.



* Fights on the 1960s ''Series/{{Batman}}'' series were almost always like this. The missed punches were often covered up by the now-famous [[TheHitFlash hit flashes]] of "POW!"/"ZAP!"/"WHAMMO!" etc etc. This was because the show's brutal production schedule didn't allow much time for fight scene rehearsals.
* ''MonsterWarriors'' has this in spades. For example, one girl is hit by a giant snake, but she falls down before the CGI snake actually hits her. Whether this trope was deliberately invoked (given the B-movie inspiration for the series) is debatable (given how seriously the show takes itself).
* During the [[DorkAge Bruce Kalish era]], ''Franchise/PowerRangers ''fights were basically "everything you see elsewhere on this page, but in slow-mo to make ''sure'' you see how terrible it is, and with explosions happening in the background at random points for no discernible reason." Disney's censors may be partially to blame, though, with the limits of how and where a person could be hit becoming increasingly restrictive - when this was at its worst, blows tended to miss by a light-year or be blocked so far away from the body that if the person hadn't moved, it would ''still'' have done them no harm. Most of these complaints are about the unmorphed fights - people getting smacked around is alright so long as you don't actually see their bodies, apparently. There were still a few 'jump up in front of the explosion and yell' moments to go around, though. Unmorphed fights before and since have looked ''much'' better.

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* Fights on the 1960s ''Series/{{Batman}}'' series were almost always like this. The missed punches were often covered up by the now-famous [[TheHitFlash hit flashes]] of "POW!"/"ZAP!"/"WHAMMO!" etc etc., etc. This was because the show's brutal production schedule didn't allow much time for fight scene rehearsals.
* ''MonsterWarriors'' ''Series/MonsterWarriors'' has this in spades. For example, one girl is hit by a giant snake, but she falls down before the CGI snake actually hits her. Whether this trope was deliberately invoked (given the B-movie inspiration for the series) is debatable (given how seriously the show takes itself).
* During the [[DorkAge Bruce Kalish era]], ''Franchise/PowerRangers ''fights ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' fights were basically "everything you see elsewhere on this page, but in slow-mo to make ''sure'' you see how terrible it is, and with explosions happening in the background at random points for no discernible reason." Disney's censors may be partially to blame, though, with the limits of how and where a person could be hit becoming increasingly restrictive - -- when this was at its worst, blows tended to miss by a light-year or be blocked so far away from the body that if the person hadn't moved, it would ''still'' have done them no harm. Most of these complaints are about the unmorphed fights - -- people getting smacked around is alright so long as you don't actually see their bodies, apparently. There were still a few 'jump up in front of the explosion and yell' moments to go around, though. Unmorphed fights before and since have looked ''much'' better.



* ''HomeAndAway''. Dear god, that show had the lamest fight scenes. Simply involved both participants rolling in the sand and somehow getting massive black eyes and other cuts and bruises. However, there was a storyline where Ric was hospitalized after an illegal street fight. That fight actually did involve some reasonable-looking punches.

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* ''HomeAndAway''.''Series/HomeAndAway''. Dear god, that show had the lamest fight scenes. Simply involved both participants rolling in the sand and somehow getting massive black eyes and other cuts and bruises. However, there was a storyline where Ric was hospitalized after an illegal street fight. That fight actually did involve some reasonable-looking punches.



* Susan Lucci once recounted a particularly horrible scene she had on ''Series/AllMyChildren.'' First off, neither she nor her costar were trained fighters, but it was a catfight, so that wasn't a problem. However, the scene took place outdoors, in the rain, while both were in tight-fitting clothes and high heels. Adding even more to it, both actresses were wearing lotion, which combined with the artificial rain and made them both incredibly slippery. By the end, the "fight" was merely the two actors grabbing each other by the wrist and flailing back and forth.

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* Susan Lucci once recounted a particularly horrible scene she had on ''Series/AllMyChildren.'' ''Series/AllMyChildren''. First off, neither she nor her costar were trained fighters, but it was a catfight, so that wasn't a problem. However, the scene took place outdoors, in the rain, while both were in tight-fitting clothes and high heels. Adding even more to it, both actresses were wearing lotion, which combined with the artificial rain and made them both incredibly slippery. By the end, the "fight" was merely the two actors grabbing each other by the wrist and flailing back and forth.



* ''Series/SherlockHolmes'' - in a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjKXFBkNE10 brief bar brawl]] between Holmes and a drunken ruffian, the opening backhand obviously misses and slightly later one of Holmes' punches is obviously aimed below the chin. However, the fight is otherwise competently staged.
* A ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' Weekend Update skit ended up unintentionally--and hilariously--lampshading this. Jimmy Fallon was incensed at Tina Fey's snarky remarks and as such, repeatedly struck her in the face. Unfortunately, the sound effect was absent, making it seem as though he were really hitting her, leaving the audience in stunned silence. Once the sound effect was fixed and the noise of the punch landing was put in, the audience laughed heartily, prompting Tina to continue snarking, "You see how much funnier it is with the sound effect?"

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* ''Series/SherlockHolmes'' - in ''Series/SherlockHolmes'': In a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjKXFBkNE10 brief bar brawl]] between Holmes and a drunken ruffian, the opening backhand obviously misses and slightly later one of Holmes' punches is obviously aimed below the chin. However, the fight is otherwise competently staged.
* A ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' Weekend Update skit ended up unintentionally--and hilariously--lampshading unintentionally -- and hilariously -- lampshading this. Jimmy Fallon was incensed at Tina Fey's snarky remarks and as such, repeatedly struck her in the face. Unfortunately, the sound effect was absent, making it seem as though he were really hitting her, leaving the audience in stunned silence. Once the sound effect was fixed and the noise of the punch landing was put in, the audience laughed heartily, prompting Tina to continue snarking, "You see how much funnier it is with the sound effect?"



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* ''ThereWillBeBrawl'': In some scenes, the fights are just too slow to look realistic. Episode 10 is a big one.
* [[WebVideo/TGWTGYearOneBrawl The]] Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses big battle is made of this, but they're doing it [[StylisticSuck on purpose]] for the RuleOfFunny. The cartoonish sound effects don't help matters.
** In his commentary over the N. Bison/Dr. Insano fight in WebVideo/{{Kickassia}}, Film Brain reminds people disappointed in the fight that they were in another person's house and had to be careful not to mess it up, so what we got really was the best thing possible, especially considering the time and money issues.
** Ditto the original Final Battle between the Critic and the Nerd. The lightsaber scene alone was too ridiculous ''not'' to be a parody. (Also, during the "dueling kicks" sequence, you can see the Nerd's hand resting on the tv to balance himself. Yeah.)

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* ''ThereWillBeBrawl'': ''WebVideo/ThereWillBeBrawl'': In some scenes, the fights are just too slow to look realistic. Episode 10 is a big one.
* [[WebVideo/TGWTGYearOneBrawl The]] Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses:
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big battle of the ''WebVideo/TGWTGYearOneBrawl'' is made of this, but they're doing it [[StylisticSuck on purpose]] for the RuleOfFunny. The cartoonish sound effects don't help matters.
** In his commentary over the N. Bison/Dr. Insano fight in WebVideo/{{Kickassia}}, ''WebVideo/{{Kickassia}}'', Film Brain reminds people disappointed in the fight that they were in another person's house and had to be careful not to mess it up, so what we got really was the best thing possible, especially considering the time and money issues.
** Ditto the original Final Battle between the Critic and the Nerd. The lightsaber scene alone was too ridiculous ''not'' to be a parody. (Also, during the "dueling kicks" sequence, you can see the Nerd's hand resting on the tv TV to balance himself. Yeah.)






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* ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' might possibly be the worst offender. One fight has Wolverine fighting [[ArchEnemy Sabertooth]], a mutant with simliar powers (including the claws) as his. It involves Wolverine cutting off a branch of a tree to use it as a club against Sabretooth and ends with Sabertooth pulling a bazooka sized Taser out of his trenchcoat and knocking out Wolverine.
* The 1994 ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'' had a number of heavily castrated fight scenes due to heavy censorship refusing to let Spider-Man throw a punch when battling villains. Pretty much all of the fights are done with Spider-Man's webbing. Very rarely you'll see an actual punch in a WhamEpisode, such as when the Green Goblin abducts Mary Jane and takes her to a bridge many comics fans recognized...
* The 1996 DCAU ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' also had a few below average fights due to inconsistent power levels for the title character.

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* ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen'' might possibly be the worst offender. One fight has Wolverine fighting [[ArchEnemy Sabertooth]], a mutant with simliar powers (including the claws) as his. It involves Wolverine cutting off a branch of a tree to use it as a club against Sabretooth and ends with Sabertooth pulling a bazooka sized bazooka-sized Taser out of his trenchcoat and knocking out Wolverine.
* The 1994 ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'' had has a number of heavily castrated fight scenes due to heavy censorship refusing to let Spider-Man throw a punch when battling villains. Pretty much all of the fights are done with Spider-Man's webbing. Very rarely you'll see an actual punch in a WhamEpisode, such as when the Green Goblin abducts Mary Jane and takes her to a bridge many comics fans recognized...
* The 1996 DCAU ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' also had has a few below average fights due to inconsistent power levels for the title character.






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8th Mar '17 8:48:47 AM Bionicman
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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/Daredevil2015'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured". A big example is when Jessica fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it's understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk. However, when fight scenes between people with powers finally get in gear, they are ''awesome''. Justified to some extent: Jessica's alcoholism is a major story point.

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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' has this to the point that when the people behind the show said that they weren't trying to one-up ''Series/Daredevil2015'''s fight scenes, the response was a resounding, "we figured". A big example is when Jessica fights Kilgrave's hired goons. While it's understandable that she doesn't want to hurt them, with how slow her reflexes are, she might as well be drunk. However, when in the fight scenes between people with powers finally get in gear, they are ''awesome''. Justified to some extent: Jessica's alcoholism is a major story point.powers, the choreography works better.
8th Feb '17 1:53:29 AM LondonKdS
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Of course, this can be a matter of opinion, though some of the examples that follow are so bad that they fail even the most generous benefit of the doubt. Compare SpecialEffectFailure - when they overlap this is an example of WhenPropsAttack. See WimpFight, WhatTheFuAreYouDoing and FakeSpecialAttack for when this is done deliberately. If the Fight Scene Failure fails and someone really ''does'' get hit, expect the producers to ThrowItIn.

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Of course, this can be a matter of opinion, though some of the examples that follow are so bad that they fail even the most generous benefit of the doubt. Compare SpecialEffectFailure - when they overlap this is often an example of WhenPropsAttack. See WimpFight, WhatTheFuAreYouDoing and FakeSpecialAttack for when this is done deliberately. If the Fight Scene Failure fails and someone really ''does'' get hit, expect the producers to ThrowItIn.
8th Feb '17 1:53:10 AM LondonKdS
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Of course, this can be a matter of opinion, though some of the examples that follow are so bad that they fail even the most generous benefit of the doubt. Compare SpecialEffectFailure. See WimpFight, WhatTheFuAreYouDoing and FakeSpecialAttack for when this is done deliberately. If the Fight Scene Failure fails and someone really ''does'' get hit, expect the producers to ThrowItIn.

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Of course, this can be a matter of opinion, though some of the examples that follow are so bad that they fail even the most generous benefit of the doubt. Compare SpecialEffectFailure.SpecialEffectFailure - when they overlap this is an example of WhenPropsAttack. See WimpFight, WhatTheFuAreYouDoing and FakeSpecialAttack for when this is done deliberately. If the Fight Scene Failure fails and someone really ''does'' get hit, expect the producers to ThrowItIn.
24th Jan '17 10:29:59 PM HiddenWindshield
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* Subverted twice in the animated movie ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite''. Superman fights a monstrous giant bug at the start of the movie and does nothing but throw weak punches that don't faze it. However once he figures out the bug is a machine and not a living, thinking creature, he freezes and smashes it in seconds. Later, during the titular fight with the Elite, he doesn't land any major hits on any of the Elite (despite exhibiting a very high power level earlier in the film) and gets the shit kicked out of him... to make it seem like he's been pushed over the edge into the Elite's "bad guys get killed" mentality and to buy time for his Super-Bots to hijack the Elite's ship.
16th Jan '17 5:55:40 PM Bissek
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* While most fight scenes on ''Series/MissionImpossible'' were limited to giving somebody a TapOnTheHead (the main exceptions were missions in which a boxing tournament and a martial arts match were central to the plan), said taps tended to be so poorly choreographed that it looked like the team was knocking people out by slapping them between the shoulder blades.
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