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22nd Jul '16 5:30:54 PM MsChibi
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If the FatalFlaw doesn't play any role in the story, it's an InformedFlaw. If the flaw isn't quite so fatal, you're likely dealing with MrViceGuy. If someone else ensures that the flaw is fatal, it's FlawExploitation. A literal fatal flaw, as often seen in {{science fiction}} and {{fantasy}}, would be PhlebotinumBreakdown and/or AchillesHeel.

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If the FatalFlaw doesn't play any role in the story, it's an InformedFlaw. If the flaw isn't quite so fatal, you're likely dealing with MrViceGuy. If someone else ensures that the flaw is fatal, it's FlawExploitation. A literal fatal flaw, as often seen in {{science fiction}} and {{fantasy}}, would be PhlebotinumBreakdown and/or AchillesHeel.
AchillesHeel. When the flaw belongs not to an individual character, but to [[LongRunner a long-running]] series or franchise, that's a FranchiseOriginalSin.
18th Jul '16 5:27:43 AM Morgenthaler
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** Tarquin in DangerouslyGenreSavvy and can be very dangerous, but he thinks ItsAllAboutMe and starts falling apart when Elan refuses to be TheHero and tells Tarquin that he isn't TheBigBad.

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** Tarquin in DangerouslyGenreSavvy is GenreSavvy and can be very dangerous, but he thinks ItsAllAboutMe and starts falling apart when Elan refuses to be TheHero and tells Tarquin that he isn't TheBigBad.
16th Jul '16 11:20:16 PM X2X
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Whether it be a raging inferiority complex, self-endangering recklessness, an Oedipus complex, alcoholism, bizarre neo-mystic delusions, or a complete disregard for one's own life, pretty much ''everybody'' has at least one of these, and quite a few have more then one.

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Whether it be a raging inferiority complex, self-endangering recklessness, an Oedipus complex, alcoholism, bizarre neo-mystic delusions, or a complete disregard for one's own life, pretty much ''everybody'' has at least one of these, and quite a few have more then than one.
16th Jul '16 11:08:37 PM X2X
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-->-- '''TylerJohnson''', ''ShampooPlanet''

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-->-- '''TylerJohnson''', ''ShampooPlanet''
'''Tyler Johnson''', ''Shampoo Planet''



** ''Theatre/KingLear'' is far to proud. This causes him to exile and disown his beloved, youngest daughter who tells him the truth and gets himself stabbed in the back by his two eldest daughters who tell him what he wants to hear.

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** ''Theatre/KingLear'' Theatre/KingLear is far to too proud. This causes him to exile and disown his beloved, youngest daughter who tells him the truth and gets himself stabbed in the back by his two eldest daughters who tell him what he wants to hear.



* Shown explicitly in Arthur Miller's play ''Theatre/DeathOfASalesman''. The main character, Willy Loman, is so entranced with his own dreams and desires that he denies and ignores anything contrary to his beliefs. Willy's conviction that just being well liked is enough to lead to success eventually leads to his downfall, as he can't understand why his sons, who were popular in high school, can't seem to get successful jobs. After Willy commits suicide, the play ends as a ShaggyDogStory, with [[LonelyFuneral nobody attending Willy's funeral]]. One of Willy's sons even {{Lampshade}}s his father's FatalFlaw.

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* Shown explicitly in Arthur Miller's play ''Theatre/DeathOfASalesman''. The main character, Willy Loman, is so entranced with his own dreams and desires that he denies and ignores anything contrary to his beliefs. Willy's conviction that just being well liked is enough to lead to success eventually leads to his downfall, as he can't understand why his sons, who were popular in high school, can't seem to get successful jobs. After Willy commits suicide, the play ends as a ShaggyDogStory, with [[LonelyFuneral nobody attending Willy's funeral]]. One of Willy's sons even {{Lampshade}}s {{lampshade|Hanging}}s his father's FatalFlaw.



** YMMV on the above. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation You could also argue that Sweeney's fatal flaw is naivety]]. "What was his crime?" "Foolishness". He failed to perceive exactly how dangerous Turpin was to his family, and all of the subsequent damage happened because of this. Case in point: it happens again. He's genuinely shocked by Mrs Lovett's betrayal - you get the feeling that even after his descent into total madness, he still can't comprehend the depths that some people will sink to.
* In ''Theatre/{{Electra}}'', the title character's unrelenting lust for revenge combined with her nigh incestuous obsession with her brother, Orestes, and her father, Agamemnon, makes for her fatal flaw.
* ''Theatre/MyFairLady''. Higgins' superior attitude causes Elisa to leave him.

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** YMMV on the above. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation You could also argue that Sweeney's fatal flaw is naivety]]. "What was his crime?" "Foolishness". "Foolishness." He failed to perceive exactly how dangerous Turpin was to his family, and all of the subsequent damage happened because of this. Case in point: it happens again. He's genuinely shocked by Mrs Lovett's betrayal - -- you get the feeling that even after his descent into total madness, he still can't comprehend the depths that some people will sink to.
* In ''Theatre/{{Electra}}'', the title character's unrelenting lust for revenge combined with her nigh incestuous nigh-incestuous obsession with her brother, Orestes, and her father, Agamemnon, makes for her fatal flaw.
* ''Theatre/MyFairLady''. ''Theatre/MyFairLady'': Higgins' superior attitude causes Elisa to leave him.



* ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' and ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies''.

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* ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' and ''Theatre/LoveNeverDies''.''Theatre/LoveNeverDies'':
12th Jul '16 8:12:25 PM Valiona
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* In ''LightNovel/AccelWorld'', Haruyuki's fatal flaw is his lack of self-esteem. Not only does this frequently hold him back in battle, it also means that he initially [[ICantBelieveAGuyLikeYouWouldNoticeMe doubts that Kuroyukihim would be interested in him]], leading to some tension between them.
8th Jul '16 8:22:04 PM WillBGood
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** Anna's major flaw is her impulsive naivete. It's best shown in how she rushes up the mountain Elsa's ran off to with no protection from the cold, no plan to bring her back beyond talking her down somehow, and no idea she'd accomplish that. [[spoiler: To say nothing of her falling head-over-heels with Prince Hans, who turned out to be TheSociopath looking to gain the throne by any means necessary.]]

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** Anna's major flaw is her impulsive naivete. It's best shown in how she rushes up the mountain Elsa's ran run off to with no protection from the cold, no plan to bring her back beyond talking her down somehow, and no idea she'd accomplish that. [[spoiler: To say nothing of her falling head-over-heels with Prince Hans, who turned out to be TheSociopath looking to gain the throne by any means necessary.]]
5th Jul '16 6:11:55 AM Willbyr
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Whether it be a raging inferiority complex, self-endangering recklessness, an Oedipus complex, alcoholism, bizarre neo-mystic delusions, or a complete disregard for one's own life, pretty much ''everybody'' has at least one of these. Quite a few have more then one.

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Whether it be a raging inferiority complex, self-endangering recklessness, an Oedipus complex, alcoholism, bizarre neo-mystic delusions, or a complete disregard for one's own life, pretty much ''everybody'' has at least one of these. Quite these, and quite a few have more then one.
3rd Jul '16 1:35:24 PM Morgenthaler
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* Parodied in ''Manga/AirGear'' when [[TheObiWan Spitfire]] points out that [[TheHero Ikki]] has a crippling weakness, that he ''sucks'' at using AT. Ringo has to admit he's not wrong.

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* Parodied in ''Manga/AirGear'' when [[TheObiWan Spitfire]] Spitfire points out that [[TheHero Ikki]] has a crippling weakness, that he ''sucks'' at using AT. Ringo has to admit he's not wrong.
29th Jun '16 3:51:09 AM thatmadork
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Cersei's [[{{Jerkass}} near-constant barrage of spite and hostility]] alienates everyone around her and often foils her political scheming, Jaime's continued snarky bribe offers towards Locke causes him to lose his sword-hand (this is bad considering he's a MasterSwordsman), Tywin's insistence on dismissing Shae as a "whore" [[spoiler:despite a very angry and crossbow-toting Tyrion telling him not to ends with his undignified but certainly well-deserved death on the can]], and even TokenGoodTeammate Tyrion's repeated call-outs and stream of insults directed at Joffrey lead to him [[spoiler:becoming the prime suspect when Joffrey is murdered]]. The Lannisters all seem to share a common one: an inability to just '''shut up''' when they really should.

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Cersei's [[{{Jerkass}} near-constant barrage of spite and hostility]] alienates everyone around her and often foils her political scheming, Jaime's continued snarky bribe offers towards Locke causes him to lose his sword-hand (this is bad considering he's a MasterSwordsman), Tywin's insistence on dismissing Shae as a "whore" [[spoiler:despite a very angry and crossbow-toting Tyrion telling him not to ends with his undignified but certainly well-deserved death on the can]], and even TokenGoodTeammate Tyrion's repeated call-outs and stream of insults directed at Joffrey lead to him [[spoiler:becoming the prime suspect when Joffrey is murdered]]. The Lannisters all seem to share a common one: an inability to just '''shut up''' when they really should.should.
** The Stark's reoccurring flaw is their continued assumptions that everyone holds the same morals and principles that they do. GoodCannotComprehendEvil mixed with HorribleJudgeOfCharacter often leads to the family being manipulated and eventually [[spoiler:gets a lot of them killed]].
29th Jun '16 3:38:22 AM thatmadork
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Cersei's [[{{Jerkass}} near-constant barrage of spite and hostility]] alienates everyone around her and often foils her political scheming, Jaime's continued snarky bribe offers towards Locke causes him to lose his sword-hand (this is bad considering he's a MasterSwordsman), Tywin's insistence on dismissing Shae as a "whore" [[spoiler:despite a very angry and crossbow-toting Tyrion telling him not to ends with his undignified but certainly well-deserved death on the can]], and even TokenGoodTeammate Tyrion's repeated call-outs and stream of insults directed at Joffrey lead to him [[spoiler:becoming the prime suspect when Joffrey is murdered]]. The Lannisters all seem to share a common one: an inability to just '''shut up''' when they really should.
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