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28th Sep '16 7:28:40 PM KingLyger
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* Mithos, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', is a {{Determinator}} of the first order. Unfortunately, his complete unwillingness to give up and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm know when enough is enough]] leads him to create a system where two worlds vie for a rapidly draining amount of resources, leads countless people to die meaninglessly, and turns his own allies against him.

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* Mithos, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', is a {{Determinator}} of the first order. Unfortunately, his complete unwillingness to give up and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm know when enough is enough]] leads him to create a system where two worlds vie for a rapidly draining amount of resources, leads countless people to die meaninglessly, and turns his own allies against him. Even when he [[NearVillainVictory nearly succeeds in getting what he wants]], the benefactor of all his scheming [[ShutUpHannibal tells him he's gone way too far]].
25th Sep '16 8:43:35 PM Loekman3
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* The Author (aka [[spoiler: Stanford Pines]]) from ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is ''really'' bad at just explaining things, usually due to trust issues or lack of communication skills. [[spoiler: Among other things this leads to his assistant leaving and going mad, a fight with his brother that gets him sucked into another dimension for about thirty years, only trusting one person with world-saving secrets, and being part of a chain of events that kicks off [[RealityIsOutToLunch Weirdmageddon]].]]

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* The Author (aka [[spoiler: Stanford Pines]]) from Every single Pines family in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' has at least one critical flaw that tends to kickstart the conflict of the stories:
** For Mabel, [[ItsAllAboutMe her selfishness]] meant that she often never considers what everyone else wants and instead, prefers that they do what she wanted to do. She
is also shown to be quite insensitive to Dipper's feelings as despite the fact that she knows that Dipper is troubled, she still constantly picks on him. This flaw is what ultimately caused a rift between the two and allowed Bill to exploit her emotional state in order to directly cause Weirdmageddon.
** The Author (aka [[spoiler: Stanford Pines]]) lets his obsession with his own work and science drives away everyone he cares about including his brother and Fiddleford. He is also
''really'' bad at just explaining things, usually due to trust issues or lack of communication skills. [[spoiler: Among other things this leads to his assistant leaving and going mad, a fight with his brother that gets him sucked into another dimension for about thirty years, only trusting one person with world-saving secrets, and being part of a chain of events that kicks off [[RealityIsOutToLunch Weirdmageddon]].]]
23rd Sep '16 12:06:09 PM thatmadork
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*** It's stated that the yahg live by a pack animal mentality; a group of them will simply ''not'' co-operate until some leader has been established either through social manoeuvring or violence, and the rest immediately drop all their past rivalry and serve their new superior loyally - equality is an ''insult'' to them. We're talking about a species who are so obsessed with dominance and control that they make the ''[[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]]'' look friendly - hell, they massacred the delegation team the Council sent to them, causing the Council to quarantine their planey. Given the salarians' past experience with the aforementioned krogan, [[TooDumbToLive what they thought they'd accomplish really defies all understanding]].

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*** It's stated that the yahg live by a pack animal mentality; a group of them will simply ''not'' co-operate until some leader has been established either through social manoeuvring or violence, and the rest immediately drop all their past rivalry and serve their new superior loyally - equality is an ''insult'' to them. We're talking about a species who are so obsessed with dominance and control that they make the ''[[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]]'' look friendly - hell, they massacred the delegation team the Council sent to them, causing the Council to quarantine their planey. planet. Given the salarians' past experience with the aforementioned krogan, [[TooDumbToLive what they thought they'd accomplish with the yahg really defies all understanding]]. understanding]].
23rd Sep '16 12:03:51 PM thatmadork
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*** It's stated that the yahg live by a pack animal mentality; a group of them will simply ''not'' co-operate until some leader has been established either through social manoeuvring or violence, and the rest immediately drop all their past rivalry and serve their new superior loyally - equality is an ''insult'' to them. We're talking about a species who are so obsessed with dominance and control that they make the ''[[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]]'' look friendly - hell, they massacred the delegation team the Council sent to them, causing the Council to quarantine their planey. Given the salarians' past experience with the aforementioned krogan, [[TooDumbToLive what they thought they'd accomplish really defies all understanding]].
8th Sep '16 11:59:08 PM damus2300
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* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}''
** Alexander is immoveable when it comes to matters of honor, making him insensitive to the needs of others.
** Burr is too much of TheStoic, making Alexander think he is unscrupulous. Burr is actually quite emotional but he also has terrible timing.
7th Sep '16 12:39:05 PM Tron80
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Whether it be a raging inferiority complex, self-endangering recklessness, an Oedipus complex, alcoholism, bizarre neo-mystic delusions, or a complete disregard for one's own life, pretty much ''everybody'' has at least one of these, and quite a few have more than one.

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Whether it be a raging inferiority complex, self-endangering recklessness, an Oedipus complex, alcoholism, bizarre neo-mystic delusions, or a complete disregard for one's own life, pretty much ''everybody'' has at least one of these, and quite a few have more than one.


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* In ''Comicbook/SupergirlRebirth'', Director Chase thinks that [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Kryptonians]] were arrogant, and their hubris led to their destruction. She also thinks that ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' may have Kryptonian ego issues and still has anger management issues.
6th Sep '16 10:36:58 PM Boogeymadam
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* Obsessiveness

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* Obsessiveness[[ObsessionTropes Obsessiveness]]
6th Sep '16 7:58:04 AM Arcana4th
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* ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' has Andou Ruruka's inability to trust anyone, slowly developing into TheParanoiac. The traitor pushes that flaw to the limit by making her NG code [[spoiler:"Cannot allow anyone to leave the building", therefore making everyone a possible killer for her]]. To make matters worse, her boyfriend's NG code is [[spoiler:"Cannot put food in his mouth", since she is established to not trust people who don't eat her candy, making her doubt the only one she trusts]]. This all comes together for her to [[spoiler:to end up murdering her boyfriend, attempting to kill Kirigiri and killing Kizakura in the process]].
3rd Sep '16 11:06:17 AM TommyTree
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* Pride for Hollyleaf in ''Literature/WarriorCats''. She believes that she deserves to be a leader of the Clan, and that her devotion to warrior code makes her a better cat than those outside of the Clans. This leads to her downfall, after she discovers that she is not a cat of pure heritage. First, she murders a cat threatening to reveal her origin, when she believes that it prevent her from becoming a leader. Later, when she learns that she is of even more illegal than she thought, she collapses completely and goes on a rampage to punish everyone involved. She eventually abandons her pride and accepts her fate with humility, redeeming herself.
30th Aug '16 1:41:47 AM damus2300
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** A common flaw in the Starks is HonorBeforeReason (which could be seen as a form of {{pride}}), especially in Eddard and Robb.
*** Eddard's flaw is more his undying love for his friends and family, this motivated him to go to King's Landing to help Robert and then lie about Joffrey's parentage to attempt to save his daughters. And Robb's flaw is more of a need to be like his dad.
** Stannis shares much of the same HonorBeforeReason attitude initially, although [[CharacterizationMarchesOn in later books he is more willing to compromise.]]
** [[AdiposeRex Robert Baratheon]]'s is gluttony.

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** A common flaw in the Starks is HonorBeforeReason (which could be seen as a form of {{pride}}), especially in Eddard and Robb.
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Robb. Eddard's flaw is more his undying love for his friends and family, this motivated him to go to King's Landing to help Robert and then lie about Joffrey's parentage to attempt to save his daughters. And Robb's flaw is more of a need to be like his dad.
** Stannis shares much of the same HonorBeforeReason attitude initially, although [[CharacterizationMarchesOn in later books he is more willing to compromise.]]
** [[AdiposeRex
Robert Baratheon]]'s is gluttony.Baratheon meet their deaths thanks to alcoholism.



* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Cersei's [[{{Jerkass}} near-constant barrage of spite and hostility]] alienates everyone around her and often foils her political scheming, Jaime's continued snarky bribe offers towards Locke causes him to lose his sword-hand (this is bad considering he's a MasterSwordsman), Tywin's insistence on dismissing Shae as a "whore" [[spoiler:despite a very angry and crossbow-toting Tyrion telling him not to ends with his undignified but certainly well-deserved death on the can]], and even TokenGoodTeammate Tyrion's repeated call-outs and stream of insults directed at Joffrey lead to him [[spoiler:becoming the prime suspect when Joffrey is murdered]]. The Lannisters all seem to share a common one: an inability to just '''shut up''' when they really should.
** The Stark's reoccurring flaw is their continued assumptions that everyone holds the same morals and principles that they do. GoodCannotComprehendEvil mixed with HorribleJudgeOfCharacter often leads to the family being manipulated and eventually [[spoiler:gets a lot of them killed]].

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Cersei's [[{{Jerkass}} near-constant barrage
''Series/GameOfThrones'': Aside from the ''A Song of spite Ice and hostility]] alienates everyone around her and often foils her political scheming, Jaime's continued snarky bribe offers towards Locke causes him to lose his sword-hand (this is bad considering he's a MasterSwordsman), Tywin's insistence on dismissing Shae as a "whore" [[spoiler:despite a very angry and crossbow-toting Tyrion telling him not to ends with his undignified but certainly well-deserved death on the can]], and even TokenGoodTeammate Tyrion's repeated call-outs and stream of insults directed at Joffrey lead to him [[spoiler:becoming the prime suspect when Joffrey is murdered]]. The Lannisters all seem to share a common one: an inability to just '''shut up''' when they really should.
** The Stark's reoccurring flaw is their continued assumptions that everyone holds the same morals and principles that they do. GoodCannotComprehendEvil mixed with HorribleJudgeOfCharacter often leads to the family being manipulated and eventually [[spoiler:gets a lot of them killed]].
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** Ramsay likes to [[KickTheDog "play"]] with his enemies too much. Because of this Theon Greyjoy and Sansa Stark escape. He also wastes a golden opportunity to kill Jon Snow and instead kills Wun Wun the Giant ForTheEvulz.
** Blackfish feels guilty for failing to save his family at the Red Wedding. [[spoiler: He died defending Riverrun even though it surrendered because he didn't want to run again.]]

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** Ramsay likes to [[KickTheDog "play"]] with his enemies too much. Because of this Theon Greyjoy and Sansa Stark escape. He also escape and he wastes a golden opportunity to kill Jon Snow and instead kills by killing Wun Wun the Giant ForTheEvulz.
** Blackfish feels guilty for failing to save his family at the Red Wedding. [[spoiler: He died dies defending Riverrun even though it surrendered because he didn't want to run again.]]
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