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14th Dec '17 6:26:05 AM Njein
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** [[FallenHero Regime Superman]] has three flaws:
*** [[{{Determinator}} Refusal to compromise]]. He cannot bring himself to doubt his ideals or reflect on his own actions, and so anyone who doesn't agree must be betraying him. [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs Unlike the last game]], he shows "patience" with people who won't come around at first, but ultimately he'll try to make them conform to his worldview by force rather than ever consider the idea that he might be wrong. This ultimately [[spoiler: kiboshes the second chance the story gives him.]]
*** [[SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers Cynicism]]. He really believes that only tyranny and lethal force can save the world from evil, because he tried the more idealistic route and still lost everything he held dear. Because of this, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he fails to appreciate Supergirl's attempts to appeal to his humanity]], being too jaded and despairing to accept that maybe he was right the first time.
*** Clinging on to ILetGwenStacyDie. Superman still remains firmly in this mode, and incarceration hasn't changed it much, and also tells Supergirl that heroes' loved ones die if they hold back. It's actually a problem, as his lingering disillusionment prevents him from moving on and accepting a HeelFaceTurn.

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** [[FallenHero Regime Superman]] has three two flaws:
*** [[{{Determinator}} Refusal to compromise]]. He cannot bring himself to doubt his ideals or reflect on his own actions, and so anyone who doesn't agree must be betraying him. [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs Unlike the last game]], he shows "patience" with people who won't come around at first, but ultimately he'll try to make them conform to his worldview by force rather than ever consider the idea that he might be wrong. wrong, and incarceration hasn't changed it much. This ultimately [[spoiler: kiboshes the second chance the story gives him.]]
him, as he still remained firmly in this mode.]]
*** [[SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers Cynicism]].Cynicism]] and clinging on to ILetGwenStacyDie. He really believes that only tyranny and lethal force can save the world from evil, because he tried the more idealistic route and still lost everything he held dear. Because of this, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he fails to appreciate Supergirl's attempts to appeal to his humanity]], being too jaded and despairing to accept that maybe he was right the first time.
*** Clinging on to ILetGwenStacyDie. Superman still remains firmly in this mode, and incarceration hasn't changed it much, and
time. He also tells Supergirl that heroes' loved ones die if they hold back. It's actually a problem, as back, but his lingering disillusionment with losing Lois in the previous game actually prevents him from moving on and accepting a HeelFaceTurn.



*** [[ThouShaltNotKill Adherence to his no-kill rule]]. Batman often does not respond back when several of the Regime members [[VillainHasAPoint criticize him for sticking to this]]. Wonder Woman, Superman, and Damian all accuse him of MurderByInaction, pointing out how sticking to ThouShaltNotKill enabled psychopathic villains like Brainiac or the Joker to just keep on killing.

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*** [[ThouShaltNotKill Adherence to his no-kill rule]]. Batman often does not respond back when several of the Regime members [[VillainHasAPoint criticize him for sticking to this]]. Wonder Woman, Superman, Cyborg and Damian Nightwing/Damian all accuse him of MurderByInaction, pointing out how sticking to ThouShaltNotKill has ''really'' enabled psychopathic villains like Brainiac or the Joker to just keep on killing.
9th Dec '17 12:04:43 PM Njein
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** [[FallenHero Regime Superman]] has two flaws:
*** [[{{Determinator}} Refusal to compromise]]. He cannot bring himself to doubt his ideals or reflect on his own actions, and so anyone who doesn't agree must be betraying him. Unlike last game, he shows "patience" with people who won't come around at first, but ultimately he'll try to make them conform to his worldview rather than ever consider the idea that he might be wrong. This ultimately [[spoiler: kiboshes the second chance the story gives him.]]
*** [[SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers Cynicism]]. He really believes that only tyranny and lethal force can save the world from evil, because he tried the more idealistic route and still lost everything he held dear. Because of this he fails to appreciate Supergirl's attempts to appeal to his humanity, being too jaded and despairing to accept that maybe he was right the first time.

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** [[FallenHero Regime Superman]] has two three flaws:
*** [[{{Determinator}} Refusal to compromise]]. He cannot bring himself to doubt his ideals or reflect on his own actions, and so anyone who doesn't agree must be betraying him. [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs Unlike the last game, game]], he shows "patience" with people who won't come around at first, but ultimately he'll try to make them conform to his worldview by force rather than ever consider the idea that he might be wrong. This ultimately [[spoiler: kiboshes the second chance the story gives him.]]
*** [[SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers Cynicism]]. He really believes that only tyranny and lethal force can save the world from evil, because he tried the more idealistic route and still lost everything he held dear. Because of this this, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he fails to appreciate Supergirl's attempts to appeal to his humanity, humanity]], being too jaded and despairing to accept that maybe he was right the first time.time.
*** Clinging on to ILetGwenStacyDie. Superman still remains firmly in this mode, and incarceration hasn't changed it much, and also tells Supergirl that heroes' loved ones die if they hold back. It's actually a problem, as his lingering disillusionment prevents him from moving on and accepting a HeelFaceTurn.
6th Dec '17 11:12:42 AM Mdjj1996
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* [[NiceGuy Politness]]
6th Dec '17 11:11:47 AM Mdjj1996
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* [[NapoleonDelusion Napoleon delusion]]

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* [[NiceGuy Politeness]]
* [[{{Pride}} Pride/Hubris]]

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* [[NiceGuy Politeness]]
* [[{{Pride}} Pride/Hubris]]
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6th Dec '17 11:09:29 AM Mdjj1996
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* [[{{Pride}} Pride or hubris]]

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* [[NiceGuy Politeness]]
* [[{{Pride}} Pride or hubris]]Pride/Hubris]]
6th Dec '17 11:07:59 AM Mdjj1996
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* [[NervousWreck Nervouness]]
27th Nov '17 8:48:57 AM Njein
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* While ComicBook/RedSkull shared some of the flaws of most [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] supervillains such as overconfidence and excessive wrath, his biggest flaw is his dogged adherence to Nazi ideology, which can sometimes overrule even his legendary PragmaticVillainy. Hard as it might be to believe, some of his major schemes were failures because he's a PrinciplesZealot like a StubbornMule, he wouldn't budge from his views.
25th Nov '17 8:41:57 AM Psytrainer
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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'': The eponymous character's [[ATragedyofImpulsiveness impulsiveness]], which leads her to say or do things without considering what the consequences of her actions might be, particularly when Adrien is involved. This has not only driven a wedge between her and her friends, such as in ''Rogercop'', but it has also [[CreateYourOwnVillain lead to a substantial number of akumatizations]] that otherwise could have been avoided, such as in ''Gamer''.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'': The eponymous character's [[ATragedyofImpulsiveness impulsiveness]], which leads her to say or do things without considering what the consequences of her actions might be, particularly when Adrien is involved. This has not only driven a wedge between her and her friends, such as in ''Rogercop'', but it has also caused [[CreateYourOwnVillain lead to a substantial number of akumatizations]] that otherwise could have been avoided, such as in ''Gamer''.
25th Nov '17 8:39:03 AM Psytrainer
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* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'': The eponymous character's [[ATragedyofImpulsiveness impulsiveness]], which leads her to say or do things without considering what the consequences of her actions might be, particularly when Adrien is involved. This has not only driven a wedge between her and her friends, such as in ''Rogercop'', but it has also [[CreateYourOwnVillain lead to a substantial number of akumatizations]] that otherwise could have been avoided, such as in ''Gamer''.


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21st Nov '17 2:51:08 PM MrMaplesyrup1
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If the FatalFlaw doesn't play any role in the story, it's an InformedFlaw. If the flaw isn't quite so fatal, you're likely dealing with MrViceGuy. If someone else ensures that the flaw is fatal, it's FlawExploitation. A literal fatal flaw, as often seen in {{science fiction}} and {{fantasy}}, would be PhlebotinumBreakdown and/or AchillesHeel. If you were looking for a [[Pun fatal floor]], see BoobyTrap or DeathMaze.

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If the FatalFlaw doesn't play any role in the story, it's an InformedFlaw. If the flaw isn't quite so fatal, you're likely dealing with MrViceGuy. If someone else ensures that the flaw is fatal, it's FlawExploitation. A literal fatal flaw, as often seen in {{science fiction}} and {{fantasy}}, would be PhlebotinumBreakdown and/or AchillesHeel. If you were looking for a [[Pun fatal floor]], see BoobyTrap PitTrap or DeathMaze.DeathCourse.
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