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16th Mar '17 7:02:21 PM Bailoroc
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* TheDickTracyShow had two characters, Joe Jitsu and Go-Go Gomez, who both were drawn (and acted) very stereotypically for the time period. However, while their portrayals can be a little uncomfortable for modern viewers to watch, they also both intelligent and capable heroes within the show's universe.
4th Mar '17 1:38:43 PM nombretomado
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* When [[MarvelComics Marvel]] first ran its ''[[ComicBook/NickFury Sergeant Fury]] and his ComicBook/HowlingCommandos'', its TokenBlack character Gabe Jones was portrayed rather stereotypically (complete with a jazz trumpet on the cover of the very first issue), but having a black character on the team at all was quite revolutionary in that day and age, and he was generally treated as equal with the other commandos and a valued member of the strike force.

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* When [[MarvelComics Marvel]] Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}} first ran its ''[[ComicBook/NickFury Sergeant Fury]] and his ComicBook/HowlingCommandos'', its TokenBlack character Gabe Jones was portrayed rather stereotypically (complete with a jazz trumpet on the cover of the very first issue), but having a black character on the team at all was quite revolutionary in that day and age, and he was generally treated as equal with the other commandos and a valued member of the strike force.
3rd Mar '17 7:25:32 PM Xtifr
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* Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar would be considered cruel by the standards of today (boasting about killing and enslaving millions of people can do that), but many contemporaries criticized him for being ''too lenient''. Case in point - he once dealt with a rebellious town by cutting off the right hand of every rebel in the town (so they could not raise arms against him again). Standard Roman practice would have been [[DisproportionateRetribution to kill every living thing in the town and turn it into rubble.]]

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* Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar would be considered cruel by the standards of today (boasting about killing and enslaving millions of people can do that), but many contemporaries criticized him for being ''too lenient''. Case in point - he once dealt with a rebellious town by cutting off the right hand of every rebel in the town (so they could not raise arms against him again). Standard Roman practice would have been [[DisproportionateRetribution to kill every living thing in the town and turn it into rubble.]]
25th Feb '17 1:03:37 PM JulianLapostat
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** Creator/NicholasRay's ''The Savage Innocents'' was shot on location in the Arctic and was intended to subvert the stereotypes of Eskimos and Inuit, a fact that a modern audience will see as fundamentally compromised on account of its casting of Anthony Quinn rather than an Inuit actor as a lead (which Robert Flaherty did with Film/NanookOfTheNorth), and equally offensively, for casting Japanese actress Yoko Tani as Quinn's wife. However as noted by Tag Gallagher in the context of films made in that time.
--> '''Tag Gallagher''': ''The Savage Innocents'' possibly comes closest to a non-white point of view of any film by an important [white] filmmaker; [[{{Deconstruction}} it goes out of its way to render the strange and bizarre as normal]], and succeeds so well in inducting us into the alien sensibilities of its Eskimos that, [[CultureClash by the time a white man shows up, we feel him as the abnormal one]].
8th Feb '17 10:06:51 AM PeppermintTwist
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* ''Film/GlenOrGlenda,'' directed by and starring the infamous Creator/EdWood, is one of the most notoriously awful movies of all time for its rambling narrative, terrible dialogue, and all of its nonsensical scenes and asides... but it's also a surprisingly open-minded film about transgender people, crossdressing, and anyone who oversteps society's "accepted" gender roles. It presents some ideas that would be laughable today, such as the idea that the titular Glen only crossdresses as Glenda because he needs a "perfect woman" in his life and that developing an interest in housework and cooking will "make" a man into a trans woman, but the movie also [[ValuesAssonance condemns those who would use religion to demean these people]] and asks that the audience be open-minded and accepting of them.
8th Feb '17 7:43:11 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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* The famous ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' radio miniseries "The Clan of the Fiery Cross" gets quite a lot of well-deserved praise today for being one of the first works of mainstream American pop culture to portray the Ku Klux Klan (or a thinly-veiled {{expy}} of them, at least) as villains, explicitly calling out their racism and xenophobia as "un-American" and inviting ordinary Americans to harass and disrupt them by any possible means. By today's standards, though, it might seem a bit odd that the family that Superman defends from the Klansmen are not rural or working-class African-Americans (the most frequent target of the Klan, by far), but heavily Americanized middle-class ''Chinese-Americans''. And the story takes pains to show them as educated, well-to-do business owners who speak flawless English, as if they would have been too hard to sympathize with if they hadn't been the absolute image of respectable white-bread Americanness. As progressive as the story was, it was still a product of the 1940s; it was daring enough to take on the Klan, but not quite daring enough to show Superman siding with Black Americans.



* The Meiji Era (18681912) language and educational reforms of Japan now look like efforts to eradicate dialects and enforce a single, very specific restrictive standard on people, but at the time they were enlightened efforts to create class equality and open up scholarship to the lower classes by making scientific or literary writing accessible to people who couldn't afford years of education in heavily Chinese-influenced writing.

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* The Meiji Era (18681912) (1868–1912) language and educational reforms of Japan now look like efforts to eradicate dialects and enforce a single, very specific restrictive standard on people, but at the time they were enlightened efforts to create class equality and open up scholarship to the lower classes by making scientific or literary writing accessible to people who couldn't afford years of education in heavily Chinese-influenced writing.
22nd Jan '17 2:15:06 AM TheHeadlessCabbage
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** And many sharecroppers were former slaves who couldn't find any other work.
20th Jan '17 9:29:34 AM Allronix
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* In Lee Falk's ''ComicStrip/MandrakeTheMagician'', Mandrake's BlackBestFriend and [[BashBrothers Bash Brother]] is Lothar, an African Prince of a federation of jungle tribes and "the strongest man alive". While this may seem stereotypical, Lothar was portrayed with great respect and dignity compared to almost any other black characters at the time.

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* In Lee Falk's ''ComicStrip/MandrakeTheMagician'', Mandrake's BlackBestFriend and [[BashBrothers Bash Brother]] is Lothar, an African Prince of a federation of jungle tribes and "the strongest man alive". While this may seem stereotypical, Lothar was portrayed with great respect and dignity compared to almost any other black characters at the time. [[note]] This made it much easier than it could have been when WesternAnimation/DefendersOfTheEarth was made in the Eighties, and Lothar was upgraded to TheBigGuy and GeniusBruiser for the team [[/note]]
19th Jan '17 5:28:01 AM DarkStorm
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** On the other hand, Jinjur is expelled by the all-female army of real soldiers fielded by Glinda the Good. So it's not exactly The Patriarchy Strikes Back.

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** On the other hand, Jinjur is expelled by the all-female army of real soldiers fielded by Glinda the Good.Good, and replaced on the throne by another woman, Queen Ozma. So it's not exactly The Patriarchy Strikes Back.
8th Jan '17 3:45:52 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* Despite Disney's [[OldShame current stance]] on ''Disney/SongOfTheSouth'', that movie portrayed Uncle Remus (who was a sharecropper, not a slave) as the only intelligent, mature person in the movie, whereas the white people were portrayed as idiots. Without Uncle Remus, that family would have fallen apart, and the movie says so. The film gets a lot of flak for presenting "happy slaves"... [[HateDumb even though Remus was a sharecropper, not a slave.]] It also is criticized for Remus' "exaggerated" accent and dialect, despite the fact that it is realistic for its time period. The actor who played Uncle Remus, James Baskett, originally auditioned for a bit voice acting gig. Walt Disney liked his performance so much that he was given the roles of both Uncle Remus and Br'er Fox, and Disney did quite a bit of work behind the scenes to get the Academy to acknowledge Baskett's performance with an honorary Oscar-- and that right there is the definition of this trope: the very first Oscar awarded to an African-American male, yes, but an "honorary" one.
*** Sharecroppers lived one level above slaves.

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* Despite Disney's [[OldShame current stance]] on ''Disney/SongOfTheSouth'', that movie portrayed Uncle Remus (who was [[InsistentTerminology a sharecropper, not a slave) slave]]) as the only intelligent, mature person in the movie, whereas the white people were portrayed as idiots. Without Uncle Remus, that family would have fallen apart, and the movie says so. The film gets a lot of flak for presenting "happy slaves"... [[HateDumb even though Remus was a sharecropper, not a slave.]] It also is criticized for Remus' "exaggerated" accent and dialect, despite the fact that it is realistic for its time period. The actor who played Uncle Remus, James Baskett, originally auditioned for a bit voice acting gig. Walt Disney liked his performance so much that he was given the roles of both Uncle Remus and Br'er Fox, and Disney did quite a bit of work behind the scenes to get the Academy to acknowledge Baskett's performance with an honorary Oscar-- and that right there is the definition of this trope: the very first Oscar awarded to an African-American male, yes, but an "honorary" one.
*** ** Sharecroppers lived one level above slaves.
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