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1st Aug '17 8:31:48 AM BeerBaron
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** Arkay, the God of Death, averts this in the Imperial and classic [[OurElvesAreBetter Aldmeri]] pantheons, due to being the God of Death ''and Life''. He is typically considered a compassionate god who sometimes has to do bad things so that something good will happen elsewhere, or ensuring that the world doesn't become totally static by allowing death so that new life can arise.

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** Arkay, the God of Death, averts this in the Imperial and classic [[OurElvesAreBetter Aldmeri]] pantheons, due to being the God of Death ''and Life''. He is typically considered a compassionate god who sometimes has to do bad things so that something good will happen elsewhere, or ensuring that the world doesn't become totally static by allowing death so that new life can arise. He also averts this as his [[ScaryBlackMan Yokudan/Redguard]] aspect, Tu'whacca, who [[{{Psychopomp}} guides the souls of the dead]] to the [[WarriorHeaven Far Shores]], of which he is the caretaker.
1st Aug '17 8:30:11 AM BeerBaron
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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** Arkay, the God of Death, averts this in the Imperial and classic [[OurElvesAreBetter Aldmeri]] pantheons, due to being the God of Death ''and Life''. He is typically considered a compassionate god who sometimes has to do bad things so that something good will happen elsewhere, or ensuring that the world doesn't become totally static by allowing death so that new life can arise.
** Played straight by Arkay's Old [[HornyVikings Nordic]] aspect, Orkey, the "Old Knocker", who is despised by Nords for giving them [[WeAreAsMayflies shorter lifespans]] than [[LongLived the hated Mer]] in their mythology. He also shows up several times in their mythology as a villain, such as when he and [[BeastOfTheApocalypse Alduin]] teamed up to reduce all Nords to the age of children. ([[EternalHero Wulfharth Ash-King]] undid it using the [[MakeMeWannaShout Thu'um]], but accidentally aged himself up too much and died.)
24th Jul '17 5:04:07 PM Discar
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* ''Literature/RoguesOfTheRepublic:'' Byn-kodar, God of Death, is seen as a vile daemon, and those who worship him are mostly insane and sociopathic necromancers. True death priests are rare, but they are ''very'' powerful, with complete dominion over all magic, and are nearly impossible to kill. [[spoiler:Except Byn-kodar doesn't actually exist. He is a name given to the death powers that all the gods share. When, on rare occasion, a death priest is needed, they select a devout priest of a normal god and grant them the powers. This is why death priests have power over magic; all magic ultimately comes from the gods, and the death priests are being blessed by all the gods at once]].
22nd Jul '17 2:05:28 PM infernape612
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* ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' never used Hades (except for a rather dishonorable mention as the father of the demon Nikos in the novel), but Hecate, another underworld god(dess), came off particularly badly, being [[http://charmed.wikia.com/wiki/Hecate turned into a demon]]. (Way to go, have witches fight the matron of witches.) Yama also got this treatment, becoming the amoral gatekeeper of Chinese hell who tried to snatch whatever spirits were not "properly buried" and drag them to hell, regardless of whether they were good or evil.\\

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* ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' never used Hades (except for a rather dishonorable mention as the father of the demon Nikos in the novel), but Hecate, another underworld god(dess), came off particularly badly, being [[http://charmed.wikia.com/wiki/Hecate turned into a demon]]. (Way to go, have witches fight the matron of witches.) Yama also got this treatment, becoming the amoral gatekeeper of Chinese hell who tried to snatch whatever spirits were not "properly buried" and drag them to hell, regardless of whether they were good or evil.\\
14th Jul '17 10:46:49 AM AnotherGuy
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** And then following on from the spoiler above, [[spoiler: Hel turns out to be an OmnicidalManiac]].

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** And then following on from the spoiler above, [[spoiler: Hel turns out to be an OmnicidalManiac]].looking to try a KlingonPromotion, by having everything reset from scratch and letting her usurp Odin]].
6th Jul '17 2:37:13 PM WillKeaton
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* Disney's done this trope waaaaaay back in the past: the 1934 SillySymphony ''The Goddess of Spring'' is a retelling of the Persephone myth, and Hades looks like a proper Mephistophelean stage devil, with his realm basically being Hell, containing fire and imps. You can watch it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuVRi9XzNpk here]] for now.

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* Disney's done this trope waaaaaay back in the past: the 1934 SillySymphony ''The Goddess of Spring'' is a retelling of the Persephone myth, and Hades looks like a proper Mephistophelean stage devil, with his realm basically being Hell, containing fire and imps. You can watch it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuVRi9XzNpk here]] You can watch it here for now.]]
6th Jul '17 2:35:21 PM WillKeaton
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* TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar is an interesting case. In the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Old World]], there were many Gods of Death, and foremost among them was Morr, who was a pretty nice guy all things considered and closer to Discworld's Death than anything else. Then, in the thousands of years between the setting's destruction in TabletopGame/WarhammerTheEndTimes and the time of its successor game, the [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] JerkAss who invented necromancy in the setting, Nagash, managed to usurp all of them, and now rules every afterlife, and the Mortal Realm tied to death magic, to boot. So, an outright evil Death God took the places of several that this trope fit.

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* TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar ''TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar'' is an interesting case. In the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Old World]], there were many Gods of Death, and foremost among them was Morr, who was a pretty nice guy all things considered and closer to Discworld's Death than anything else. Then, in the thousands of years between the setting's destruction in TabletopGame/WarhammerTheEndTimes and the time of its successor game, the [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] JerkAss who invented necromancy in the setting, Nagash, managed to usurp all of them, and now rules every afterlife, and the Mortal Realm tied to death magic, to boot. So, an outright evil Death God took the places of several that this trope fit.



* Subverted in StephenSondheim's ''Theatre/TheFrogs''. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xeTSecKRho Listen for yourself]].

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* Subverted in StephenSondheim's ''Theatre/TheFrogs''. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xeTSecKRho Listen for yourself]].yourself.]]
6th Jul '17 2:34:45 PM WillKeaton
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The Angel of Death on the other hand, is portrayed more or less sympathetically, especially during his first appearance. He does his job in ensuring that everyone dies at the appropriate time. If somebody who ''must'' die does not, it will cause the natural flow of death to halt and put the entire world in chaos.

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** The Angel of Death on the other hand, is portrayed more or less sympathetically, especially during his first appearance. He does his job in ensuring that everyone dies at the appropriate time. If somebody who ''must'' die does not, it will cause the natural flow of death to halt and put the entire world in chaos.
6th Jul '17 2:34:11 PM WillKeaton
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* [[spoiler:The spider]] in ''Anime/HellGirl'' is the ruler of Hell and the one who invented the Hell Correspondence, in which people sell their souls for revenge, [[spoiler:as an IronicHell for Ai]]. Considering [[Myth/JapaneseMythology the]] [[PostModernMagik setting]], he's basically a stand-in for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yama_(East_Asia) Enma]]. The show never goes into whether he's doing it out of malice or if it's just his job, though.

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* [[spoiler:The spider]] in ''Anime/HellGirl'' is the ruler of Hell and the one who invented the Hell Correspondence, in which people sell their souls for revenge, [[spoiler:as an IronicHell for Ai]]. Considering [[Myth/JapaneseMythology the]] [[PostModernMagik setting]], he's basically a stand-in for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yama_(East_Asia) Enma]]. Enma.]] The show never goes into whether he's doing it out of malice or if it's just his job, though.
5th Jul '17 12:47:42 AM ShorinBJ
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** [[spoiler:In a way, the Book even has a TakeThat to this trope: everybody assumes Hades would want a war to kill many people and get more subject in his Realm. When Percy actually confronts him, Hades is ''infuriated'' that people think he would want more subjects, seeing how he already has his hands full with the incredibly large amount of dead there already is.]]

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** [[spoiler:In a way, the Book even has a TakeThat to this trope: everybody assumes Hades would want a war to kill many people and get more subject subjects in his Realm. realm. When Percy actually confronts him, Hades is ''infuriated'' that people think he would want more subjects, seeing how he already has his hands full with the incredibly large amount numbers of dead there that are already is.there.]]
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