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3rd Dec '17 10:53:45 AM nombretomado
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* ''WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall'': Linkara cites this as one of the reasons he dislikes the works created or inspired by Creator/RobLiefeld. None of the grizzled [[NinetiesAntiHero nineties antiheroes]] are anything more than props that fire massive guns and spew one-liners. He doesn't know who hardly any of the characters are, what they like or dislike, what their hobbies are, or whether or not they like pina coladas. And they only seem capable of displaying one emotion: pissed off. They're all so interchangeable that Linkara makes a running joke of referring to individual early Image comics as any of the other, similar early Image comics by "mistake".

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* ''WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall'': ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'': Linkara cites this as one of the reasons he dislikes the works created or inspired by Creator/RobLiefeld. None of the grizzled [[NinetiesAntiHero nineties antiheroes]] are anything more than props that fire massive guns and spew one-liners. He doesn't know who hardly any of the characters are, what they like or dislike, what their hobbies are, or whether or not they like pina coladas. And they only seem capable of displaying one emotion: pissed off. They're all so interchangeable that Linkara makes a running joke of referring to individual early Image comics as any of the other, similar early Image comics by "mistake".
27th Nov '17 10:02:20 PM theLibrarian
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* The original version of ''Disney/Zootopia'' was a much darker story, where Zootopia was a hellish, racist dystopia that put shock collars on predators because they were "dangerous", even if that predator was a ''child''. Even beyond the collars it was still heavily discriminatory against them. The movie's director Byron Howard said that, in a positive example of ExecutiveMeddling, a Disney executive said that no one would ''want'' the city to survive the movie's conflict because it's an awful place. Thankfully the change turned out to be a positive one, and Zootopia was a critically acclaimed hit.

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* The original version of ''Disney/Zootopia'' ''{{Disney/Zootopia}}'' was a much darker story, where Zootopia was a hellish, racist dystopia that put shock collars on predators because they were "dangerous", even if that predator was a ''child''. Even beyond the collars it was still heavily discriminatory against them. The movie's director Byron Howard said that, in a positive example of ExecutiveMeddling, a Disney executive said that no one would ''want'' the city to survive the movie's conflict because it's an awful place. Thankfully the change turned out to be a positive one, and Zootopia was a critically acclaimed hit.
27th Nov '17 10:02:02 PM theLibrarian
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* The original version of ''Disney/Zootopia'' was a much darker story, where Zootopia was a hellish, racist dystopia that put shock collars on predators because they were "dangerous", even if that predator was a ''child''. Even beyond the collars it was still heavily discriminatory against them. The movie's director Byron Howard said that, in a positive example of ExecutiveMeddling, a Disney executive said that no one would ''want'' the city to survive the movie's conflict because it's an awful place. Thankfully the change turned out to be a positive one, and Zootopia was a critically acclaimed hit.
3rd Nov '17 9:12:39 AM ClintEastwood
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* The DVD Verdict critic who reviewed the MarsNeedsMoms Blu-Ray gave this as a reason why he felt the movie was classified as movies with a classification of "Bad", saying it's "Emotionally Uninvolving". The description was "Despite all the high-stakes life-or-death situations described here, the story never feels substantial enough to really make us care if anyone lives or dies. The movie certainly plays with rougher-than-usual emotional territory (the death of one little boy's mother may be upsetting for some kids) but none of it manages to stick." It didn't help that none of the characters were likable when they weren't threatening to cross the dreaded UncannyValley.

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* The DVD Verdict critic who reviewed the MarsNeedsMoms ''WesternAnimation/MarsNeedsMoms'' Blu-Ray gave this as a reason why he felt the movie was classified as movies with a classification of "Bad", saying it's "Emotionally Uninvolving". The description was "Despite all the high-stakes life-or-death situations described here, the story never feels substantial enough to really make us care if anyone lives or dies. The movie certainly plays with rougher-than-usual emotional territory (the death of one little boy's mother may be upsetting for some kids) but none of it manages to stick." It didn't help that none of the characters were likable when they weren't threatening to cross the dreaded UncannyValley.
16th Oct '17 4:09:21 PM TSBasilisk
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* Ross Scott had this problem in his AprilFoolsDay [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LaR1C6Xds review]] video of ''VideoGame/Wolfenstein2009'' in ''WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon'', saying that that nobody is really ''reacting'' to or treating any sense of urgency to the horrors around them, which fails to invest him in the characters, which in turn fails to invest him in the game itself. It was bad enough that he couldn't bring himself to finish the game, a first for the series.

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* Ross Scott had this problem in his AprilFoolsDay [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LaR1C6Xds review]] video of ''VideoGame/Wolfenstein2009'' in ''WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon'', saying that that nobody is ''WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon''. Nobody seems to really ''reacting'' ''react'' to or treating have any sense of urgency to regarding the horrors around them, which fails to invest him in the characters, which in turn fails to invest him in the game itself. That on top of the characters being badly voiced and unmemorable. It was bad enough that he couldn't bring himself to finish the game, a first for the series.series.
** This sentiment came back full force in his look at Episode 1 of ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange''. The soap opera feel of the story, annoying and/or pretentious characters, and the bland protagonist killed his interest. He didn't even complete Episode 1 before calling it quits on the game.
12th Sep '17 1:20:44 PM TargetmasterJoe
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The DVD Verdict critic who reviewed the MarsNeedsMoms Blu-Ray gave this as a reason why he felt the movie was classified as movies with a classification of "Bad", saying it's "Emotionally Uninvolving". The description was "Despite all the high-stakes life-or-death situations described here, the story never feels substantial enough to really make us care if anyone lives or dies. The movie certainly plays with rougher-than-usual emotional territory (the death of one little boy's mother may be upsetting for some kids) but none of it manages to stick." It didn't help that none of the characters were likable when they weren't threatening to cross the dreaded UncannyValley.

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* The DVD Verdict critic who reviewed the MarsNeedsMoms Blu-Ray gave this as a reason why he felt the movie was classified as movies with a classification of "Bad", saying it's "Emotionally Uninvolving". The description was "Despite all the high-stakes life-or-death situations described here, the story never feels substantial enough to really make us care if anyone lives or dies. The movie certainly plays with rougher-than-usual emotional territory (the death of one little boy's mother may be upsetting for some kids) but none of it manages to stick." It didn't help that none of the characters were likable when they weren't threatening to cross the dreaded UncannyValley.



---> Yes, a lot of epics have big talks and complicated storylines, but the story of King Arthur works because we see our flaws and strengths in the character. Star Wars works because we like these people and want to see them get through alive. Thus, weíre with them when theyíre thrown in these complex and dangerous worlds. Here, you donít care about anybody, so you donít care about the backstories or the made-up worlds. It attempts instead to sound big instead of feel big. It tries too hard in lesser areas and not hard enough in the ones that really matter. If there is one thing thatís epic in this film, itís what an epic disaster it gave us in the end. It really is the Valhalla of botched epic stories.

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---> Yes, a lot of epics have big talks and complicated storylines, but the story of King Arthur works because we see our flaws and strengths in the character. Star Wars ''Star Wars'' works because we like these people and want to see them get through alive. Thus, weíre with them when theyíre thrown in these complex and dangerous worlds. Here, you donít care about anybody, so you donít care about the backstories or the made-up worlds. It attempts instead to sound big instead of feel big. It tries too hard in lesser areas and not hard enough in the ones that really matter. If there is one thing thatís epic in this film, itís what an epic disaster it gave us in the end. It really is the Valhalla of botched epic stories.
29th Aug '17 11:07:14 AM Klaudandus
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29th Aug '17 12:50:55 AM marcoasalazarm
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* On the ''Series/{{Community}}'' episode "[[Recap/CommunityS3E05HorrorFictionInSevenSpookySteps Horror Fiction In Seven Spooky Steps]]", this is Abed's reaction to Britta's EpicFail of an attempt at creating a horror story, saying that he doesn't finds the characters interesting at all because they are dumb. This is shot back at him afterwards when his story consist of a [[RationalFic hyper-rationalist attempt at]] [[DefiedTrope defying]] all of the regular slasher victim tropes and absolutely nothing else, completely killing the suspense.
--->'''Annie''': Ugh! Do these people ever ''die'' or what?!
27th Aug '17 9:35:40 PM Trey
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The DVD Verdict critic who reviewed the MarsNeedsMoms Blu-Ray gave this as a reason why he felt the movie was classified as movies with a classification of "Bad", saying it's "Emotionally Uninvolving". The description was "Despite all the high-stakes life-or-death situations described here, the story never feels substantial enough to really make us care if anyone lives or dies. The movie certainly plays with rougher-than-usual emotional territory (the death of one little boy's mother may be upsetting for some kids) but none of it manages to stick." It didn't help that none of the characters were likable when they weren't threatening to cross the dreaded UncannyValley.
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18th Jul '17 11:58:58 PM Kadorhal
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* ''Blog/JohnKStuff'': Creator/JohnKricfalusi reviews Creator/BobClampett's b&w cartoons with animator Milt Gray, [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2008/06/milt-grey-on-clampetts-black-and-white.html focusing on Porky Pig]]. He claimed the titular character to ''WesternAnimation/PorkyPig'' was basically a [[FlatCharacter boring prop character]] in the hands of Creator/TexAvery and Creator/FrankTashlin, and that Bob best understood how to make the character truly likable and sympathetic.

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* ''Blog/JohnKStuff'': Creator/JohnKricfalusi reviews Creator/BobClampett's b&w black & white cartoons with animator Milt Gray, [[http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2008/06/milt-grey-on-clampetts-black-and-white.html focusing on Porky Pig]]. He claimed the titular character to ''WesternAnimation/PorkyPig'' that WesternAnimation/{{Porky|Pig}} was basically a [[FlatCharacter boring prop character]] in the hands of Creator/TexAvery and Creator/FrankTashlin, and that Bob best understood how to make the character truly likable and sympathetic.
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