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27th May '16 4:15:32 PM Dinjoralo
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* [[Machinima/FreemansMind Ross Scott]] had this problem in his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LaR1C6Xds Game Dungeon]] video of ''VideoGame/{{Wolfenstein 2009}}'', which he cared so little for that he spent much of his time playing thinking about more productive things he could be doing, like going outside, and decided to stop playing halfway through. In the final parts of the video, Ross discusses why he thinks ''Wolfenstein'' left him so unmotivated;
-->You can have big gameplay flaws, bad writing, but if the game really ''cares'' about it, that can be enough to carry you through. That didn't happen here. Bland, disinterested characters and voice acting, compared with a story the game itself doesn't seem to care about is just death... If the game doesn't care about what's happening, why should the player?

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* [[Machinima/FreemansMind Ross Scott]] had this problem in his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LaR1C6Xds Game Dungeon]] video of ''VideoGame/{{Wolfenstein * ''[[WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon Ross's Game Dungeon]]'', in its AprilFoolsDay review of ''{{VideoGame/Wolfenstein 2009}}'', which he cared so little for has Ross hypothesize that he spent much of his time playing thinking about more productive things he could be doing, like going outside, and decided to stop playing halfway through. In the final parts of the video, Ross discusses this is why he thinks ''Wolfenstein'' left him so unmotivated;
-->You can have big gameplay flaws, bad writing, but if the game really ''cares'' about it, that can be enough to carry you through. That didn't happen here. Bland, disinterested characters and voice acting, compared with a story the game itself doesn't seem to care about is just death... If the game
doesn't care about what's happening, why should the player?game, saying that nobody is really ''reacting to'' or treating any sense of urgency to the horrors around them, which fails to invest him in the characters, which in turn fails to invest him in the game itself. It was bad enough that he couldn't bring himself to finish the game, a first for the series.



* ''[[WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon Ross's Game Dungeon]]'', in its AprilFoolsDay review of ''{{VideoGame/Wolfenstein 2009}}'', has Ross hypothesize that this is why he doesn't care about the game, saying that nobody is really ''reacting to'' or treating any sense of urgency to the horrors around them, which fails to invest him in the characters, which in turn fails to invest him in the game itself.
23rd May '16 2:43:56 PM Dinjoralo
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* [[Machinima/FreemansMind Ross Scott]] had this problem in his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LaR1C6Xds Game Dungeon]] video of ''VideoGame/{{Wolfenstein 2009}}'', which he cared so little for that he spent most of the game wanting to do anything more productive, like go outside, and pointing out that it's better for a game to make a player pissed off rather than completely uninvested.
-->None of the characters really seemed to give a shit about anything, and in turn, the game doesn't really make ''me'' care about anything.

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* [[Machinima/FreemansMind Ross Scott]] had this problem in his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LaR1C6Xds Game Dungeon]] video of ''VideoGame/{{Wolfenstein 2009}}'', which he cared so little for that he spent most much of the game wanting to do anything his time playing thinking about more productive, productive things he could be doing, like go going outside, and pointing out that it's better for a game decided to make a player pissed off rather than completely uninvested.
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stop playing halfway through. In the final parts of the video, Ross discusses why he thinks ''Wolfenstein'' left him so unmotivated;
-->You can have big gameplay flaws, bad writing, but if the game really ''cares'' about it, that can be enough to carry you through. That didn't happen here. Bland, disinterested
characters really seemed and voice acting, compared with a story the game itself doesn't seem to give a shit care about anything, and in turn, is just death... If the game doesn't really make ''me'' care about anything.what's happening, why should the player?
16th May '16 8:14:53 AM jdj42
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* ''[[WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon]]'', in its AprilFoolsDay review of ''{{VideoGame/Wolfenstein 2009}}'', has Ross hypothesize that this is why he doesn't care about the game, saying that nobody is really ''reacting to'' or treating any sense of urgency to the horrors around them, which fails to invest him in the characters, which in turn fails to invest him in the game itself.

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* ''[[WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon]]'', ''[[WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon Ross's Game Dungeon]]'', in its AprilFoolsDay review of ''{{VideoGame/Wolfenstein 2009}}'', has Ross hypothesize that this is why he doesn't care about the game, saying that nobody is really ''reacting to'' or treating any sense of urgency to the horrors around them, which fails to invest him in the characters, which in turn fails to invest him in the game itself.
16th May '16 8:13:27 AM jdj42
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* ''Ross's Game Dungeon'', in its AprilFoolsDay review of ''{{VideoGame/Wolfenstein 2009}}'', has Ross hypothesize that this is why he doesn't care about the game, saying that nobody is really ''reacting to'' or treating any sense of urgency to the horrors around them, which fails to invest him in the characters, which in turn fails to invest him in the game itself.

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* ''Ross's Game Dungeon'', ''[[WebVideo/RosssGameDungeon]]'', in its AprilFoolsDay review of ''{{VideoGame/Wolfenstein 2009}}'', has Ross hypothesize that this is why he doesn't care about the game, saying that nobody is really ''reacting to'' or treating any sense of urgency to the horrors around them, which fails to invest him in the characters, which in turn fails to invest him in the game itself.
15th May '16 7:26:59 PM DPsycho
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* ''Webvideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter'' has noted that as of the "Little Yellow Book", he doesn't care about any of the main characters of ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' at all due to how Squidward's (the last character he had any care towards) actions in the end made him out to be remorseless for what he did there. Special mention also goes out to Mr. Pickles where he notes that with it's first episode, he already doesn't care about any of the characters that's shown because they focus more on character's that will never be seen again by the episode's end over characters that should have had more time in the spotlight, such as the titular Mr. Pickles or any other main character there.
** He outright invokes the trope when reviewing ''WesternAnimation/DaBoomCrew''; citing that the leads were all some variation of a stereotypical FlatCharacter and he didn't care about their journey because how next to no identity was established for them, not to mention the ClicheStorm the story was and the incomprehensible dialogue made them totally unsympathetic and unrelatable.

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* ''Webvideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter'' has noted that as of the "Little Yellow Book", he doesn't care about any of the main characters of ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' at all due to how Squidward's (the last character he had any care towards) actions in the end made him out to be remorseless for what he did there.remorseless. Special mention also goes out to Mr. Pickles where he notes that with it's its first episode, he already doesn't care about any of the characters that's shown because they focus more on character's that will never ones who won't be seen again by the episode's end over characters that should have had more time in the spotlight, such as again, rather than showcasing the titular Mr. Pickles or any other main character there.
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** He outright invokes the trope when reviewing ''WesternAnimation/DaBoomCrew''; citing that the leads were all some variation of a stereotypical FlatCharacter and he didn't care about their journey because how next to no identity was established for them, not to mention the ClicheStorm the story was was, and the incomprehensible dialogue made them totally unsympathetic and unrelatable.
1st May '16 7:35:03 PM Dravencour
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A phrase coined by Dorothy Jones Heydt in a science-fiction based Website/{{Usenet}} group in 1991 to describe an AudienceReaction to a work of fiction where the characters are either so universally bland and unengaging or unlikable and unsympathetic that the reader simply loses interest in their fate and, by extension, the work as a whole. This can happen with or without the presence of [[BadWritingIndex more objective shortcomings]], but the most interesting examples tend to be those where this is a critic's main complaint, single-handedly dragging an otherwise well-made story down to where it's unenjoyable.

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A phrase coined by Dorothy Jones Heydt in a science-fiction based Website/{{Usenet}} group in 1991 to describe an AudienceReaction to a work of fiction where the characters are either so universally bland and unengaging or so unlikable and unsympathetic that the reader simply loses interest in their fate and, by extension, the work as a whole. This can happen with or without the presence of [[BadWritingIndex more objective shortcomings]], but the most interesting examples tend to be those where this is a critic's main complaint, single-handedly dragging an otherwise well-made story down to where it's unenjoyable.
30th Apr '16 5:33:12 PM Ezclee4050
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** Ebert's counterpart Creator/GeneSiskel had a rule of thumb about this: ask yourself "would a documentary showing these same actors eating lunch together be more interesting than the film I'm watching?"
21st Apr '16 12:23:41 AM Gorank
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* Evoked by Dan Didio with regards to Countdown the the Final Crisis, as far as Countdown being "52 done right". 52 ended with all of the main cast of B-Listers and C-Listers alive and well, whereas Countdown ended with severe character derailment (Steel, Black Adam) or fan favorite characters like Question and Elongated Man dead, alongside new popular characters such as Isis and Osiris.

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* Evoked by Dan Didio with regards to Countdown the the Final Crisis, as far as Countdown being "52 done right". 52 Countdown ended with all of the main cast of B-Listers and C-Listers alive and well, whereas Countdown 52 ended with severe character derailment (Steel, Black Adam) or fan favorite characters like Question and Elongated Man dead, alongside new popular characters such as Isis and Osiris.
21st Apr '16 12:21:42 AM Gorank
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* Evoked by Dan DiDio with regards to Countdown the the Final Crisis, as far as Countdown being "52 done right". Countdown ended with all of the main cast of B-Listers and C-Listers alive and well, whereas "52" ended with severe character derailment (Steel, Black Adam) or fan favorite characters like Question and Elongated Man dead, alongside new popular characters such as Isis and Osiris.

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* Evoked by Dan DiDio Didio with regards to Countdown the the Final Crisis, as far as Countdown being "52 done right". Countdown 52 ended with all of the main cast of B-Listers and C-Listers alive and well, whereas "52" Countdown ended with severe character derailment (Steel, Black Adam) or fan favorite characters like Question and Elongated Man dead, alongside new popular characters such as Isis and Osiris.
18th Apr '16 2:54:43 AM SeaRover
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* Evoked by Dan DiDio with regards to Countdown the the Final Crisis, as far as Countdown being "52 done right". Countdown ended with all of the main cast of B-Listers and C-Listers alive and well, whereas "52" ended with severe character derailment (Steel, Black Adam) or fan favorite characters like Question and Elongated Man dead, alongside new popular characters such as Isis and Osiris.



* Evoked by Dan DiDio with regards to Countdown the the Final Crisis, as far as Countdown being "52 done right". Countdown ended with all of the main cast of B-Listers and C-Listers alive and well, whereas "52" ended with severe character derailment (Steel, Black Adam) or fan favorite characters like Question and Elongated Man dead, alongside new popular characters such as Isis and Osiris.
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* Evoked by Dan DiDio with regards to Countdown the the Final Crisis, as far as Countdown being "52 done right". Countdown ended with all of the main cast of B-Listers and C-Listers alive and well, whereas "52" ended with severe character derailment (Steel, Black Adam) or fan favorite characters like Question and Elongated Man dead, alongside new popular characters such as Isis and Osiris.
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