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13th Nov '17 5:26:53 AM KanekiKun
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* It is generally believed that Ludwig van Beethoven's father beat his son to make him practice. However, this is disputed by some historians. Neighbors who had a clear view through a window all said they could remember him quite frequently "standing in front of the clavier [piano] weeping." People who knew the family testified to his dad's harshness and unfairness, but also to his loving kindness and attempts to be a good father. However, the rock-bottom truth is that he was grooming Ludwig as a marketable commodity.
* A extreme and tragic case of TruthInTelevision: [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4967340.stm Esmie Tseng]]'s parents pushed her to her limits - where she was threatened with grounding if she got below 96% on her exams - to the point where she [[TheDogBitesBack lashed out]] and [[SelfMadeOrphan fatally stabbed her mother]].
* Chinese-American Christina H [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19026_5-reasons-parenting-one-place-we-shouldnt-imitate-china.html weighs in]]. The article was sort of in response to ''Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother'', but based on the assumption that people were taking it dead serious.[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-lessons-from-1970s-female-programmer/ Here]], she discusses how her mom tried to educate her on computers and push her into being a computer programmer against her wishes. Christina didn't become a computer programmer. But she understands why her mom wanted her to[[note]](considering her mom worked very hard at getting her job as a computer programmer)[[/note]] and respects her for it.
* The "hardass immigrant parent" stereotype is inverted by British comedian Shappi Khorsandi, who says that she wanted to be a doctor, but her Iranian parents pushed her into show business.
* A "good" example would be China's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mencius Mencius]]. Legend says his mother moved 3 times (In an age before U-Haul) to make sure had a good educational environment. Worked out pretty well.
* The father of British philosopher John Stuart Mill firmly believed in bringing up his son through rigorous education. Mill was taught Greek starting from age three, and Latin from eight. His father prevented him from interacting with other children of his age and playing around so as to not "waste" his time. Suffice to say that Mill was not in good mental health as a result of all this, leading to a complete mental breakdown at the age of twenty. He still managed to sort himself out in adulthood and become one of the fathers of the philosophy of Utilitarianism.
* [[http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/05/koran-beaten-murder-ege-sara_n_2245077.html Sara Ege]], who beat her son to death for failing to memorize the Quran.
* The parents of Burmese-American lesbian Emily Tay, the subject of the documentary ''[[http://www.hyphenmagazine.com/blog/archive/2011/07/documentary-review-no-look-pass-love-and-basketball No Look Pass]]''. They want her to go to Harvard yet they want her to have an ArrangedMarriage (to a [[MalignedMixedMarriage Burmese]] [[IncompatibleOrientation man]]) and become a housewife. Their attitude extends to sports as well. While Emily's teammates chanted "MVP! MVP!" for her, her parents merely said she played "pretty well".
* [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/kirill-bartashevitch-points-gun-at-daughter-grades_n_2552801.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news&ir=Weird+News This]] dad pointed an AK-47 at his daughter over a B.
* [[http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/08/chinese-father-hires-hitman-video-game-addiction_n_2430306.html This]] Chinese father [[WhatAnIdiot hired "hitmen" to kill his son's characters in an MMORPG because he blamed the game for his son's poor grades and inability to find a job.]]
* K-pop rookies BTS debuted with a concept that involves rising up against overbearing parents forcing their own dreams of a higher education upon children who may not want that life.
* Extreme cases of YouHaveFailedMe for bad grades are not unheard of. [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/10/dad-beats-son-to-death_n_4078216.html: A father in the United Arab Emirates]] [[OffingTheOffspring actually beat his son to death]] for [[DisproportionateRetribution getting bad grades in school]].
** Another incident of this occured in Las Vegas where parents ended up [[http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/dec/03/mother-stepfather-arrested-beating-death-7-year-ol/ killing their 7-year-old for not doing his homework]].
* Contrary to popular belief, TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons didn't cause the disappearance of [[Film/MazesAndMonsters James Dallas Egbert III]], but rather academic pressure from his parents was one of many causes of his depression, causing the suicide attempt.
* Another tragic example comes from Jennifer Pan, a Canadian-born Vietnamese girl who ordered a pair of hitmen to kill her parents. She cited the intense school schedule and unrealistic expectations they placed on her as well as her utter fear of punishment for failures, which led to her spinning a very long and complex web of lies to keep them from knowing that she failed a class as the reason.
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* It is generally believed that Ludwig van Beethoven's father beat his son to make him practice. However, this is disputed by some historians. Neighbors who had a clear view through a window all said they could remember him quite frequently "standing in front of the clavier [piano] weeping." People who knew the family testified to his dad's harshness and unfairness, but also to his loving kindness and attempts to be a good father. However, the rock-bottom truth is that he was grooming Ludwig as a marketable commodity.
* A extreme and tragic case of TruthInTelevision: [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4967340.stm Esmie Tseng]]'s parents pushed her to her limits - where she was threatened with grounding if she got below 96% on her exams - to the point where she [[TheDogBitesBack lashed out]] and [[SelfMadeOrphan fatally stabbed her mother]].
* Chinese-American Christina H [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19026_5-reasons-parenting-one-place-we-shouldnt-imitate-china.html weighs in]]. The article was sort of in response to ''Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother'', but based on the assumption that people were taking it dead serious.[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-lessons-from-1970s-female-programmer/ Here]], she discusses how her mom tried to educate her on computers and push her into being a computer programmer against her wishes. Christina didn't become a computer programmer. But she understands why her mom wanted her to[[note]](considering her mom worked very hard at getting her job as a computer programmer)[[/note]] and respects her for it.
* The "hardass immigrant parent" stereotype is inverted by British comedian Shappi Khorsandi, who says that she wanted to be a doctor, but her Iranian parents pushed her into show business.
* A "good" example would be China's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mencius Mencius]]. Legend says his mother moved 3 times (In an age before U-Haul) to make sure had a good educational environment. Worked out pretty well.
* The father of British philosopher John Stuart Mill firmly believed in bringing up his son through rigorous education. Mill was taught Greek starting from age three, and Latin from eight. His father prevented him from interacting with other children of his age and playing around so as to not "waste" his time. Suffice to say that Mill was not in good mental health as a result of all this, leading to a complete mental breakdown at the age of twenty. He still managed to sort himself out in adulthood and become one of the fathers of the philosophy of Utilitarianism.
* [[http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/05/koran-beaten-murder-ege-sara_n_2245077.html Sara Ege]], who beat her son to death for failing to memorize the Quran.
* The parents of Burmese-American lesbian Emily Tay, the subject of the documentary ''[[http://www.hyphenmagazine.com/blog/archive/2011/07/documentary-review-no-look-pass-love-and-basketball No Look Pass]]''. They want her to go to Harvard yet they want her to have an ArrangedMarriage (to a [[MalignedMixedMarriage Burmese]] [[IncompatibleOrientation man]]) and become a housewife. Their attitude extends to sports as well. While Emily's teammates chanted "MVP! MVP!" for her, her parents merely said she played "pretty well".
* [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/kirill-bartashevitch-points-gun-at-daughter-grades_n_2552801.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news&ir=Weird+News This]] dad pointed an AK-47 at his daughter over a B.
* [[http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/08/chinese-father-hires-hitman-video-game-addiction_n_2430306.html This]] Chinese father [[WhatAnIdiot hired "hitmen" to kill his son's characters in an MMORPG because he blamed the game for his son's poor grades and inability to find a job.]]
* K-pop rookies BTS debuted with a concept that involves rising up against overbearing parents forcing their own dreams of a higher education upon children who may not want that life.
* Extreme cases of YouHaveFailedMe for bad grades are not unheard of. [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/10/dad-beats-son-to-death_n_4078216.html: A father in the United Arab Emirates]] [[OffingTheOffspring actually beat his son to death]] for [[DisproportionateRetribution getting bad grades in school]].
** Another incident of this occured in Las Vegas where parents ended up [[http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/dec/03/mother-stepfather-arrested-beating-death-7-year-ol/ killing their 7-year-old for not doing his homework]].
* Contrary to popular belief, TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons didn't cause the disappearance of [[Film/MazesAndMonsters James Dallas Egbert III]], but rather academic pressure from his parents was one of many causes of his depression, causing the suicide attempt.
* Another tragic example comes from Jennifer Pan, a Canadian-born Vietnamese girl who ordered a pair of hitmen to kill her parents. She cited the intense school schedule and unrealistic expectations they placed on her as well as her utter fear of punishment for failures, which led to her spinning a very long and complex web of lies to keep them from knowing that she failed a class as the reason.
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10th Oct '17 10:40:58 PM Ninja857142
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** Hinata has signs of this in. She's really into Boruto studying in the academy, and is angry when he tries to (blatantly) fake an excuse note. She's rather justified, as Boruto is a BrilliantButLazy ChildProdigy who cuts corners whenever he can, and expects cool ninjutsu to just fall into his lap.

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** Hinata has signs of this in.this. She's really into Boruto studying in the academy, and is angry when he tries to (blatantly) fake an excuse note. She's rather justified, as Boruto is a BrilliantButLazy ChildProdigy who cuts corners whenever he can, and expects cool ninjutsu to just fall into his lap.
2nd Oct '17 11:57:38 AM Ulkomaalainen
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* In the Korean Drama "Sassy Go Go", Kwon Soo-Ah's mother is an extreme version of this, and could easily be the page image. She considers anything less than being the top ranked student is failure, severely chastises Soo-Ah for not getting a perfect score on an exam, forbids her from closely associating with the Real King dance club members (or anyone else, really) and makes her focus exclusively on her studies, and pushes Soo-Ah to follow her own carefully laid out road map to get into an Ivy League college. With all this pressure, it is hardly surprising that Soo-Ah is such a messed up girl who spends most of the series undergoing increasingly rapid [[SanitySlippage Sanity Slippage]].

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* In the Korean Drama "Sassy Go Go", Kwon Soo-Ah's mother is an extreme version of this, and could easily be the page image. She considers anything less than being the top ranked student is as a failure, severely chastises Soo-Ah for not getting a perfect score on an exam, forbids her from closely associating with the Real King dance club members (or anyone else, really) and makes her focus exclusively on her studies, and pushes Soo-Ah to follow her own carefully laid out road map to get into an Ivy League college. With all this pressure, it is hardly surprising that Soo-Ah is such a messed up girl who spends most of the series undergoing increasingly rapid [[SanitySlippage Sanity Slippage]].
23rd Sep '17 8:57:12 AM IceBearBelievesInYou
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* It is generally believed that Ludwig van Beethoven's father beat his son to make him practice. However, this is disputed by some historians. Neighbors who had a clear view through a window all said they could remember him quite frequently "standing in front of the clavier [piano] weeping." People who knew the family testified to his dad's harshness and unfairness, but also to his loving kindness and attempts to be a good father. However, the rock-bottom truth is that he was grooming Ludwig as a marketable commodity.
* A extreme and tragic case of TruthInTelevision: [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4967340.stm Esmie Tseng]]'s parents pushed her to her limits - where she was threatened with grounding if she got below 96% on her exams - to the point where she [[TheDogBitesBack lashed out]] and [[SelfMadeOrphan fatally stabbed her mother]].
* Chinese-American Christina H [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19026_5-reasons-parenting-one-place-we-shouldnt-imitate-china.html weighs in]]. The article was sort of in response to ''Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother'', but based on the assumption that people were taking it dead serious.[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-lessons-from-1970s-female-programmer/ Here]], she discusses how her mom tried to educate her on computers and push her into being a computer programmer against her wishes. Christina didn't become a computer programmer. But she understands why her mom wanted her to[[note]](considering her mom worked very hard at getting her job as a computer programmer)[[/note]] and respects her for it.
* The "hardass immigrant parent" stereotype is inverted by British comedian Shappi Khorsandi, who says that she wanted to be a doctor, but her Iranian parents pushed her into show business.
* A "good" example would be China's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mencius Mencius]]. Legend says his mother moved 3 times (In an age before U-Haul) to make sure had a good educational environment. Worked out pretty well.
* The father of British philosopher John Stuart Mill firmly believed in bringing up his son through rigorous education. Mill was taught Greek starting from age three, and Latin from eight. His father prevented him from interacting with other children of his age and playing around so as to not "waste" his time. Suffice to say that Mill was not in good mental health as a result of all this, leading to a complete mental breakdown at the age of twenty. He still managed to sort himself out in adulthood and become one of the fathers of the philosophy of Utilitarianism.
* [[http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/12/05/koran-beaten-murder-ege-sara_n_2245077.html Sara Ege]], who beat her son to death for failing to memorize the Quran.
* The parents of Burmese-American lesbian Emily Tay, the subject of the documentary ''[[http://www.hyphenmagazine.com/blog/archive/2011/07/documentary-review-no-look-pass-love-and-basketball No Look Pass]]''. They want her to go to Harvard yet they want her to have an ArrangedMarriage (to a [[MalignedMixedMarriage Burmese]] [[IncompatibleOrientation man]]) and become a housewife. Their attitude extends to sports as well. While Emily's teammates chanted "MVP! MVP!" for her, her parents merely said she played "pretty well".
* [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/kirill-bartashevitch-points-gun-at-daughter-grades_n_2552801.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news&ir=Weird+News This]] dad pointed an AK-47 at his daughter over a B.
* [[http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/08/chinese-father-hires-hitman-video-game-addiction_n_2430306.html This]] Chinese father [[WhatAnIdiot hired "hitmen" to kill his son's characters in an MMORPG because he blamed the game for his son's poor grades and inability to find a job.]]
* K-pop rookies BTS debuted with a concept that involves rising up against overbearing parents forcing their own dreams of a higher education upon children who may not want that life.
* Extreme cases of YouHaveFailedMe for bad grades are not unheard of. [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/10/dad-beats-son-to-death_n_4078216.html: A father in the United Arab Emirates]] [[OffingTheOffspring actually beat his son to death]] for [[DisproportionateRetribution getting bad grades in school]].
** Another incident of this occured in Las Vegas where parents ended up [[http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/dec/03/mother-stepfather-arrested-beating-death-7-year-ol/ killing their 7-year-old for not doing his homework]].
* Contrary to popular belief, TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons didn't cause the disappearance of [[Film/MazesAndMonsters James Dallas Egbert III]], but rather academic pressure from his parents was one of many causes of his depression, causing the suicide attempt.
* Another tragic example comes from Jennifer Pan, a Canadian-born Vietnamese girl who ordered a pair of hitmen to kill her parents. She cited the intense school schedule and unrealistic expectations they placed on her as well as her utter fear of punishment for failures, which led to her spinning a very long and complex web of lies to keep them from knowing that she failed a class as the reason.
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20th Sep '17 6:36:36 PM eroock
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1st Sep '17 11:38:14 AM kazokuhouou
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* Mei-Li (Lin's mother) in ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'', who is a Tiger Mom in more ways than one.

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* Mei-Li (Lin's mother) in ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'', who is a Tiger Mom in more ways than one. She starts learning to loosen up thanks to Kell and Coney.
30th Aug '17 9:45:43 PM tv1995
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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': Kahn. His wife Mihn is like this to a lesser extent, but Kahn is always pushing his daughter to study, learn, and practice the violin. Worse still, it isn't even for her benefit. Kahn sees an intelligent, successful daughter as a requirement for the "perfect life" he's been seeking, so he can rub it in the faces of everyone he knew growing up. Also, his [[FreudianExcuse father-in-law was a famous general who seems to view him with contempt]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': Kahn. His wife Mihn is like this to a lesser extent, but Kahn is always pushing his daughter to study, learn, and practice the violin. Worse still, it isn't even for her benefit. Kahn sees an intelligent, successful daughter as a requirement for the "perfect life" he's been seeking, so he can rub it in the faces of everyone he knew growing up. Also, his [[FreudianExcuse father-in-law was a famous general who seems to view him with contempt]]. However, Kahn later lets up on this. In the last episode of the series, he lets Connie take the night off from studying to attend the Hill's barbecue.
26th Aug '17 4:08:12 PM soaker87
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* In ''Anime/BattleSpiritsShonenToppaBashin'', Bashin's mother Hayami is shown to be very concerned with his academic success. She doesn't want him to put other things (namely, Battle Spirits) before his school work. [[spoiler: It's not so much that she's strict as that her husband abandoned the family to go and travel the world. She's concerned that Bashin will turn out like him. So it is rather justified.]]
23rd Aug '17 5:18:45 PM Rhodes7
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* In ''Literature/TheInfected'' Brian Yi's mother was like this, and it drove him to drop out of school and sever ties with his parents the moment he was old enough to do so. Later this is revealed to be part of a mental illness on her part, an obsession with driving those close to her to succeed and basking in reflected glory that drove away not only her son, but her husband.
22nd Aug '17 6:06:09 PM nmn3r3
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** Hinata has signs of this in. She's really into Boruto studying in the academy, and is angry when he tries to (blatantly) fake an excuse note.

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** Hinata has signs of this in. She's really into Boruto studying in the academy, and is angry when he tries to (blatantly) fake an excuse note. She's rather justified, as Boruto is a BrilliantButLazy ChildProdigy who cuts corners whenever he can, and expects cool ninjutsu to just fall into his lap.



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