History Main / EaglelandOsmosis

9th Sep '17 3:42:05 PM HighfalutinEaglet
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*** The honorific issues are partly the fault of whoever imports shows, subtitling or dubbing literally instead of rendering "Your Honor" as the proper equivalent for the country the American work is being imported for. You might as well translate "Herr Vorsitzender" into English as "[[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Herr#Etymology Most Venerable]] [[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vor#German Front]]-[[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sitzend#Adjective seated]]", which is the literal meaning of those words (it's only ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_and_formal_equivalence dynamically equivalent]]'' to "Mr. Chairman").

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*** The honorific issues are partly the fault of whoever imports shows, subtitling or dubbing literally instead of rendering "Your Honor" as the proper equivalent for the country the American work is being imported for. You might as well translate "Herr Vorsitzender" into English as "[[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Herr#Etymology Most Venerable]] [[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vor#German Front]]-[[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sitzend#Adjective seated]]", which is the literal meaning of those words (it's only ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_and_formal_equivalence dynamically equivalent]]'' to "Mr. Chairman"). Although, those who buy the imported American media most likely have a descent grasp of English anyway.
8th Jun '17 12:21:00 PM bjex
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The most common forms of this concerns the legal system, with people expecting to be [[ReadingYourRights read their rights]] if they are arrested, expecting that police should have a search warrant in cases where they do not need one under local law, or calling a serious crime a "felony". Another one is expecting 9-1-1 to be the number for emergency services, even when the actual number is usually displayed prominently on phonebooks and phone booths.

This isn't new, or limited to the United States--it's a side effect of World Power status. Elements of the major power's culture and language bleed into the popular culture of other countries. The Japanese adoption of Western customs like [[ChristmasInJapan Christmas]], Valentines Day, and [[WeddingsInJapan wedding ceremonies]] is a good example. In older tales, an astute reader will find Limey Osmosis, Frenchie Osmosis, and even Kraut Osmosis. Granted, modern mass media and the Internet certainly accelerate the effect.

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The most common forms of this concerns the legal system, with people expecting to be [[MirandaRights read a Miranda warning]] when they are [[ReadingYourRights read their rights]] if they are arrested, upon arrest, expecting that police should have a search warrant in cases where they do not need one under local law, or calling a serious crime a "felony". Another one is expecting 9-1-1 to be the number for emergency services, even when the actual number is usually displayed prominently on phonebooks and phone booths.

This isn't new, or indeed limited to the United States--it's a side effect of World Power status. Elements of the major power's culture and language bleed into the popular culture of other countries. The Japanese adoption of Western customs like [[ChristmasInJapan Christmas]], Valentines Day, and [[WeddingsInJapan wedding ceremonies]] is a good example. In older tales, an astute reader will find Limey Osmosis, Frenchie Osmosis, and even Kraut Osmosis. Granted, modern mass media and the Internet certainly accelerate the effect.



Contrast with WeAllLiveInAmerica, where this time it's the Americans themselves who assume that things work elsewhere the same way they do in America.

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Contrast with WeAllLiveInAmerica, where this time it's the which is when Americans themselves who assume that things work elsewhere the same way they do in America.
26th May '17 12:50:55 PM DarcyFoster
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** This also happens in ''Judge Rinder''[[note]]he's actually a barrister, not a judge[[/note]], where they have the flag of the United Kingdom on display and see him using a gavel. Real British courts feature neither of these.
30th Apr '17 3:19:30 PM nombretomado
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* ''TotalDramaIsland'' includes one of the characters saying "That's it, I'm moving to Canada," before [[LampshadeHanging realizing that he already lives in Canada]].

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* ''TotalDramaIsland'' ''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaIsland'' includes one of the characters saying "That's it, I'm moving to Canada," before [[LampshadeHanging realizing that he already lives in Canada]].
24th Jan '17 3:20:43 PM jormis29
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* From the [[GermanMedia German]] SketchComedy ''Series/Switch1975'': A judge tries to overrule a lawyer's objection, but the lawyer protests that it's not possible to overrule an objection in German court. Later the defendant protests that he doesn't want the jury to be swayed by the prosecutor's language, but the judge points out that there is no jury. In German court there is only a "jury" of three professional aldermen.

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* From the [[GermanMedia German]] SketchComedy ''Series/Switch1975'': ''Series/Switch1997'': A judge tries to overrule a lawyer's objection, but the lawyer protests that it's not possible to overrule an objection in German court. Later the defendant protests that he doesn't want the jury to be swayed by the prosecutor's language, but the judge points out that there is no jury. In German court there is only a "jury" of three professional aldermen.
16th Jan '17 8:54:57 AM jamespolk
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* ''Film/InvestigationOfACitizenAboveSuspicion'': A random young Italian communist has been arrested by the inspector's State Sec police.
--> '''Random commie''': I want a lawyer!\\
'''Cop''': We're not in America!
13th Jan '17 6:46:27 AM jamespolk
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* ''[[Film/{{Twelve}} 12]]'' is a Russian remake of ''Film/TwelveAngryMen'' and has the same central conceit of the RogueJuror as lone holdout for acquittal who gradually talks all the other jurors into his point of view. The only problem is that after a Russian jury has deliberated for three hours only a majority vote is required for conviction and a 6-6 tie will result in acquittal. The film shows the jury continuing to deliberate until the evening when they finally get a unanimous Not Guilty verdict.
11th Jan '17 1:20:30 PM lakingsif
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* The tendencies of people in non-US anglophone countries hearing the American term for things more often than their own words that it takes a moment to remember them. Common examples: "elevator", "sneakers", "shrimp".
29th Nov '16 6:04:11 PM szaleniec1000
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* Parodied in ''Series/TheITCrowd'' when Roy says to call 911 for an office fire and is reminded by Moss that 911 for the US and it's 999 in the UK.[[note]]Except when it's not.[[/note]] In reality, calls to 911 (as well as 112) will actually be rerouted to 999 on most (if not all) British phone networks.

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* Parodied in ''Series/TheITCrowd'' when Roy says to call 911 for an office fire and is reminded by Moss that 911 for the US and it's 999 in the UK.[[note]]Except when it's not. And except when it's 0118 999 881 999 119 7253.[[/note]] In reality, calls to 911 (as well as 112) will actually be rerouted to 999 on most (if not all) British phone networks.
8th Aug '16 8:35:15 AM euan112358
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** Speaking of weddings: the ritual in countries other than the US or the UK never had the "let them speak now or forever hold their peace" part. Notably many American and English weddings no longer have it either, for all the good practical reasons you can imagine and various legal ones you might not, but it still sometimes pops up in popular culture, to the point people in countries in which that line never existed occasionally expect it.

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** Speaking of weddings: the ritual in countries other than the US or the UK never had the "let them speak now or forever hold their peace" "SpeakNowOrForeverHoldYourPeace" part. Notably many American and English weddings no longer have it either, for all the good practical reasons you can imagine and various legal ones you might not, but it still sometimes pops up in popular culture, to the point people in countries in which that line never existed occasionally expect it.
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