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** In "TOW Ross' Teeth", the majority of the group wonders why their bosses don't like them and just assume it's a universal thing. Joey chimes in pointing out that they're choosing to [[OneHourWorkWeek hang out at Central Perk at 11:00 AM on a Wednesday morning]]. They all promptly get up to go to work.
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* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/45122587/ A Family Back in Inaba]]'', Yosuke makes a snide remark about how Teddie supposedly CannotKeepASecret. Teddie protests, pointing out that he's managed to keep his own secret about being a Shadow for over five years. Naoto concedes the point, while acknowledging that it's surprising given what a loudmoth he is.
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* ''Film/GoodBurger'': At the end of the climax, Dexter asks Ed why he [[spoiler:dumped the Triampathol into Mondo Burger's meat instead of taking it to the cops like they planned]]. Ed points out that even if he were able to get the evidence to the police, there was a good chance Kurt would've hired a high-powered attorney who would've gotten him off any charges. By [[spoiler:dumping the chemicals into the meat vat and causing mass destruction to the restaurant]], he turned it into an open and shut case as well as immediately shut Mondo Burger down. Dexter is impressed he thought of that.

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* ''Film/GoodBurger'': At the end of the climax, Dexter asks Ed why he [[spoiler:dumped the Triampathol into Mondo Burger's meat instead of taking it to the cops like they planned]]. Ed points out that even if he were able to get the evidence to the police, there was a good chance Kurt would've hired a high-powered attorney who would've gotten him off any charges. By [[spoiler:dumping the chemicals into the meat vat and causing mass destruction to the restaurant]], he turned it into an open and shut case OpenAndShutCase as well as immediately shut Mondo Burger down. Dexter is impressed he thought of that.
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-->'''Brain:''' "AHHH! Oh my lord you ''are'' it's mommy...

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-->'''Brain:''' "AHHH! Oh my lord you ''are'' it's its mommy...
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* ''Anime/SherlockHound'': Both Todd and Smiley wish that their boss came up with a simple plan. They also note that Moriarty's intelligence would have been better used for a legitimate career.
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'''Goku:''' No, he wouldn't! And he is smarter than me!\\

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'''Goku:''' No, he wouldn't! And he is he's smarter than me!\\
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* Jack Carter in ''Series/{{Eureka}}'', being the normal guy in a town of geniuses, is frequently on the receiving end of this.

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* Jack Carter in ''Series/{{Eureka}}'', being the while far from a dumbass, is a basically normal guy in a town of geniuses, is frequently on actual geniuses. Said geniuses often dismiss his simple, direct solutions to the receiving end [[MonsterOfTheWeek problem of this.the week]] only to eventually realize he was right all along.
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** When Jagged was essentially trapped in his hotel room because of Chloe's pestering, he decided the best way to entertain himself was by checking up on Marinette's friends... specifically on Mylene's Facebook page which in a different matter [[NotWhatItLooksLike would be seen as cyberstalking]]. He isn't wrong to point out that Mylene didn't use a privacy setting on her page like her friends, with both Marinette and later Ivan deciding to talk to Mylene about this.

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** When Jagged was essentially trapped in his hotel room because of Chloe's Chloé's pestering, he decided the best way to entertain himself was by checking up on Marinette's friends... specifically on Mylene's Facebook page which in a different matter [[NotWhatItLooksLike would be seen as cyberstalking]]. He isn't wrong to point out that Mylene didn't use a privacy setting on her page like her friends, with both Marinette and later Ivan deciding to talk to Mylene about this.
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** For a non-Jerry example, Morty offers a deconstruction. While he appears to be a dumbass at first who just makes salient points, it becomes increasingly clear as the series goes on that Morty is actually ''highly'' intelligent, [[InformedFlaw most of the claims of him being an idiot come from Rick]], and most of his failures come from his optimism, his desperation, or because the universe [[CosmicPlaything just loves screwing him over]]. Time and time again he proves he's smart enough to grasp highly complicated philosophical concepts, can easily grasp using Rick's tech, he's capable of coming up with well-thought-out plans (which are often better than Rick's), once even managed to trick a ''mind-reader'', and is the only one in his family who is able to not only handle Rick's sci-fi life and domestic life better than the rest of his family, but he's capable of doing ''both at the same time''. One episode actually implies Rick deliberately keeps Morty's confidence down out of fear of him becoming like Evil Morty.
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** He also points out on several occasions that Beth lets Rick walk all over their family because of her own abandonment issues, and even once calls her out on her habit of trying to shift the conversation whenever it's brought up:
---> '''Jerry:''' Your dad gets to walk all over us because of ''your'' abandonment issues! He's playing you, shorty.
---> '''Beth:''' Oh, stop affecting that stupid hip-hop dialect!
---> '''Jerry:''' Stop shifting the crosshairs to my ironic urban patois just because your relationship with your father is to'-up from the flo'-up!
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* In the end of ''[[Anime/{{K}} K: Return of Kings]]'', when Misaki [[spoiler:saves Saruhiko from JUNGLE and they finally repair their friendship ([[ShipTease or something more]]), Saruhiko asks why Misaki is no longer angry with him for betraying the Red Clan. Misaki says it's because if he'd go on this dangerous mission for the Blue King, then he ''is'' loyal, because the Blue King was his king all along]].
-->'''[[spoiler:Saruhiko:]]''' [Misaki]'s simple-minded, stupid, ignorant, and doesn't get a thing... And yet somehow, he's able to come up with the perfect answer. No wonder I'd go through all this trouble just for him.

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* In the end of ''[[Anime/{{K}} K: Return of Kings]]'', when Misaki [[spoiler:saves Saruhiko from JUNGLE and they finally repair their friendship ([[ShipTease or something more]]), Saruhiko asks why Misaki is no longer angry with him for betraying the Red Clan. Misaki says it's because if he'd go on this dangerous mission for the Blue King, then he ''is'' loyal, because the Blue King was his king all along]].
-->'''[[spoiler:Saruhiko:]]'''
along]].\\
'''[[spoiler:Saruhiko:]]'''
[Misaki]'s simple-minded, stupid, ignorant, and doesn't get a thing... And yet somehow, he's able to come up with the perfect answer. No wonder I'd go through all this trouble just for him.



-->'''Trickster''': Hey, you've been bitched by every single supervillain in Gotham and got your ass kicked by Deathstroke. Maybe you should see you're not hot shit and I'm the bigger fish on this pod.

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-->'''Trickster''': -->'''Trickster:''' Hey, you've been bitched by every single supervillain in Gotham and got your ass kicked by Deathstroke. Maybe you should see you're not hot shit and I'm the bigger fish on this pod.



-->'''Rider''': Uh, guys? I'm not much for priorities, ''but holy fuck, PRIORITIES!''

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-->'''Rider''': -->'''Rider:''' Uh, guys? I'm not much for priorities, ''but holy fuck, PRIORITIES!''



--->'''Shiki''': I find myself curious, Straw Hat!...You somehow suspected me when you had no right to! How did that happen?\\
'''Luffy''': I remembered you from Shanks' stories! And he said that you were the most evil, hateful bastard of a tyrant that he ever met!\\
'''Shiki''': Sticks and stones, my boy! The words of none will ever hurt me! Not yours, not your third mate's, and certainly not that Red-Haired brat's either! JIHAHAHA!

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--->'''Shiki''': --->'''Shiki:''' I find myself curious, Straw Hat!...You somehow suspected me when you had no right to! How did that happen?\\
'''Luffy''': '''Luffy:''' I remembered you from Shanks' stories! And he said that you were the most evil, hateful bastard of a tyrant that he ever met!\\
'''Shiki''': '''Shiki:''' Sticks and stones, my boy! The words of none will ever hurt me! Not yours, not your third mate's, and certainly not that Red-Haired brat's either! JIHAHAHA!



-->'''Abis Mal''': I wish for Jafar to be-- (''stops suddenly'') Wait...How will I know that these treasures won't disappear once I set you free?\\
'''Jafar''': [''losing it''] The ''more pressing'' question is: HOW WILL YOU ''STAY ALIVE'' IF YOU '''DON'T?!'''\\
'''Abis Mal''': B-B-But you said that genies can't kill! Y-Y-You said that!\\
'''Jafar''': [[ArcWords You'd be surprised]] [[FateWorseThanDeath what you can live through!]]

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-->'''Abis Mal''': Mal:''' I wish for Jafar to be-- (''stops suddenly'') Wait...How will I know that these treasures won't disappear once I set you free?\\
'''Jafar''': '''Jafar:''' [''losing it''] The ''more pressing'' question is: HOW WILL YOU ''STAY ALIVE'' IF YOU '''DON'T?!'''\\
'''Abis Mal''': Mal:''' B-B-But you said that genies can't kill! Y-Y-You said that!\\
'''Jafar''': '''Jafar:''' [[ArcWords You'd be surprised]] [[FateWorseThanDeath what you can live through!]]



--->'''Joey''': I guess there's a few things you don't get from book-learnin'.

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--->'''Joey''': --->'''Joey:''' I guess there's a few things you don't get from book-learnin'.



-->Chrissy: Just common sense. I mean, if a mama bird has one baby bird and two worms, she's not gonna go out and get another baby bird, is she?

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-->Chrissy: -->'''Chrissy:''' Just common sense. I mean, if a mama bird has one baby bird and two worms, she's not gonna go out and get another baby bird, is she?



** The council (or at least the [[JerkAss Turian member]]) seem to believe this whenever they find out Shepard is telling the truth. They even use the saying at one point;

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** The council (or at least the [[JerkAss Turian turian member]]) seem to believe this whenever they find out Shepard is telling the truth. They even use the saying at one point;



* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'':

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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'':''VideoGame/Persona4'':



-->'''[[TalkingAnimal Berthold]]:''' My God. That... That could ''actually'' work. Are you alright, Liquid ?

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-->'''[[TalkingAnimal Berthold]]:''' My God. That... That could ''actually'' work. Are you alright, Liquid ?Liquid?



** Jared may not be the best Pokémon trainer, but when he meets Lysandre, Mr. Fish is [[http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/if-theres-one-thing-jared-is-competent-at-its-loving-mr-fish MUCH larger than Lysandre's Gyarados]], to the point Mr. Fish could swallow Lysandre's Gyarados WHOLE. Because Jared feeds him a somewhat more balanced diet (pretty much everything Jared deems to be food, or more likely anything [[ExtremeOmnivore Mr. Fish eats anyway]]). Lysandre feeds his Pokepuffs, which are basically desserts.[[note]]Coelasquid mentions this is because she drew Lysandre's Gyarados at the size stated in the pokedex, while she drew Mr. Fish at the size shown in the anime, which is much larger.[[/note]]

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** Jared may not be the best Pokémon trainer, but when he meets Lysandre, Mr. Fish is [[http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/if-theres-one-thing-jared-is-competent-at-its-loving-mr-fish MUCH larger than Lysandre's Gyarados]], to the point Mr. Fish could swallow Lysandre's Gyarados WHOLE. Because Jared feeds him a somewhat more balanced diet (pretty much everything Jared deems to be food, or more likely anything [[ExtremeOmnivore Mr. Fish eats anyway]]). Lysandre feeds his Pokepuffs, which are basically desserts.[[note]]Coelasquid mentions this is because she drew Lysandre's Gyarados at the size stated in the pokedex, Pokedex, while she drew Mr. Fish at the size shown in the anime, which is much larger.[[/note]]



--> '''George Wood:''' ''VideoGame/MegaManX4'' may not even ''be'' released at all for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation. [[Creator/SonyInteractiveEntertainment Sony]] is once again being a real jerk by refusing to allow 2D games to be manufactured. Sony ''definitely'' has a bug up its [[{{Bowdlerise}} you-know-what]], and they've got some major balls ticking off Creator/{{Capcom}}, the makers of the first [=PlayStation=] game to sell 1 million copies. That game being, of course, ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil1''. Capcom should threaten not to release ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil2'' on the [=PlayStation=], [[CreatorBreakdown and watch Sony buckle]].

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--> '''George -->'''George Wood:''' ''VideoGame/MegaManX4'' may not even ''be'' released at all for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation. [[Creator/SonyInteractiveEntertainment Sony]] is once again being a real jerk by refusing to allow 2D games to be manufactured. Sony ''definitely'' has a bug up its [[{{Bowdlerise}} you-know-what]], and they've got some major balls ticking off Creator/{{Capcom}}, the makers of the first [=PlayStation=] game to sell 1 million copies. That game being, of course, ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil1''. Capcom should threaten not to release ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil2'' on the [=PlayStation=], [[CreatorBreakdown and watch Sony buckle]].



--->'''Timmy:''' You were right, [[TheDitz Cosmo]]! ''[expression of sudden shock]'' You were ''right''?
--->'''Cosmo:''' Wow, one in a row! '''It's a new record!!'''\\\

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--->'''Timmy:''' ---->'''Timmy:''' You were right, [[TheDitz Cosmo]]! ''[expression of sudden shock]'' You were ''right''?
--->'''Cosmo:'''
''right''?\\
'''Cosmo:'''
Wow, one in a row! '''It's a new record!!'''\\\



--->'''Wanda:''' ''[writing in diary]'' "Wednesday March 22nd: Cosmo had an idea!"

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--->'''Wanda:''' ---->'''Wanda:''' ''[writing in diary]'' "Wednesday March 22nd: Cosmo had an idea!"



--->'''Wanda:''' ''[writing in diary]'' "This has been a magnificent day for Cosmo!"

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--->'''Wanda:''' ---->'''Wanda:''' ''[writing in diary]'' "This has been a magnificent day for Cosmo!"



'''Skarr''' Look if I want to kill you that's MY prerogative, okay?!\\
'''Billy''' I'm just saying from a logical point of view--\\
'''Skarr''' SHUT UP!

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'''Skarr''' '''Skarr:''' Look if I want to kill you that's MY prerogative, okay?!\\
'''Billy''' '''Billy:''' I'm just saying from a logical point of view--\\
'''Skarr''' '''Skarr:''' SHUT UP!



--->'''Billy:''' ...yeah, but how did you and Irwin's mom-
--->'''Irwin's Dad:''' Leaving a whole lot of questions that don't need to be answered.

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--->'''Billy:''' ...yeah, but how did you and Irwin's mom-
--->'''Irwin's
mom-\\
'''Irwin's
Dad:''' Leaving a whole lot of questions that don't need to be answered.



--->'''Billy''': All this because I wouldn't let you sleep in my bed?

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--->'''Billy''': --->'''Billy:''' All this because I wouldn't let you sleep in my bed?



--->'''Harold:''' Hey Billy you left your dance bag in the car-OH MY GOSH! An evil witch is using this ballet school so she can steal the souls of innocent students! And now she's stealing Billy's soul!
--->'''Grim:''' ''Wow''. That's pretty good! [[LampshadeHanging He got that quicker than you did, Mandy.]]
--->'''Mandy:''' Shut up.

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--->'''Harold:''' Hey Billy you left your dance bag in the car-OH MY GOSH! An evil witch is using this ballet school so she can steal the souls of innocent students! And now she's stealing Billy's soul!
--->'''Grim:'''
soul!\\
'''Grim:'''
''Wow''. That's pretty good! [[LampshadeHanging He got that quicker than you did, Mandy.]]
--->'''Mandy:'''
]]\\
'''Mandy:'''
Shut up.



--->'''Scanlan:''' You know, you're a lot smarter than we give you credit for.
--->'''Grog:''' Yup. I'm a genius.

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--->'''Scanlan:''' You know, you're a lot smarter than we give you credit for.
--->'''Grog:'''
for.\\
'''Grog:'''
Yup. I'm a genius.



----> '''Rabbit:''' How can we play with missing pieces?\\

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----> '''Rabbit:''' ---->'''Rabbit:''' How can we play with missing pieces?\\



--->'''Homer''': ''Geez'' Marge, tell the neighborhood!

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--->'''Homer''': --->'''Homer:''' ''Geez'' Marge, tell the neighborhood!



--->'''Dermott''': Do you dig this Tracy girl or what?\\
'''Dean''': Well, she seems nice, and her hair is really pretty.\\
'''Dermott''': Well, talk to her, then. You don't have to nail her. Just see what happens. Man, way to be uptight.\\
'''Hank''': Wait, did you just give good advice?\\
'''Dean''': I gotta go check the temperature in Hell.\\
'''Dermott''': You can both blow me.

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--->'''Dermott''': --->'''Dermott:''' Do you dig this Tracy girl or what?\\
'''Dean''': '''Dean:''' Well, she seems nice, and her hair is really pretty.\\
'''Dermott''': '''Dermott:''' Well, talk to her, then. You don't have to nail her. Just see what happens. Man, way to be uptight.\\
'''Hank''': '''Hank:''' Wait, did you just give good advice?\\
'''Dean''': '''Dean:''' I gotta go check the temperature in Hell.\\
'''Dermott''': '''Dermott:''' You can both blow me.
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* ''Radio/CabinPressure:'' Arthur, normally a ditz of the highest (or possibly lowest) order, occasionally manages to make a sensible suggestion. In "Douz", his suggestion of solving the problem everyone's facing by just driving the plane to the next nearest airport is immediately shot down by Martin, until Douglas points out that it actually is a workable idea for once.

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* ''Radio/CabinPressure:'' Arthur, normally a ditz of the highest (or possibly lowest) order, occasionally manages to make a sensible suggestion. In "Douz", his suggestion of solving the problem everyone's facing by just driving the plane to the next nearest airport is immediately shot down by Martin, until Douglas points out that it actually is a workable idea for once. He also comes through in "Zurich", realising that [[spoiler: while they don't have ID proving Douglas is Gordon, Arthur ''does'' have ID showing he's Gordon's son]]. He's correctly confident enough in this idea that, even when Douglas tries to use the code-phrase meaning Arthur should stop talking, he says "No, ''not'' Code Red, ''listen!''"
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** When Tex tries to argue that she doesn't owe Church anything for orchestrating her rescue from Red Base, because she already spared his life during the Sidewinder incident, Caboose interjects (very, very melodramatically) that she doesn't just owe Church a favor for the rescue, but she owes him and Tucker too because they helped with it. Her attempts to argue those debts are already paid too are swiftly dismantled, and she accepts the point.

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* In the end of [[Anime/{{K}} K: Return of Kings]], when Misaki [[spoiler: saves Saruhiko from JUNGLE and they finally repair their friendship ([[ShipTease or something more]]), Saruhiko asks why Misaki is no longer angry with him for betraying the Red Clan. Misaki says it's because if he'd go on this dangerous mission for the Blue King, then he ''is'' loyal, because the Blue King was his king all along]].

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* In the end of [[Anime/{{K}} ''[[Anime/{{K}} K: Return of Kings]], Kings]]'', when Misaki [[spoiler: saves [[spoiler:saves Saruhiko from JUNGLE and they finally repair their friendship ([[ShipTease or something more]]), Saruhiko asks why Misaki is no longer angry with him for betraying the Red Clan. Misaki says it's because if he'd go on this dangerous mission for the Blue King, then he ''is'' loyal, because the Blue King was his king all along]].



* ''Anime/KillLaKill'': Despite her dimwitted nature, [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Mako]] surprisingly gives off some good advice once in a while, [[ChewbaccaDefense bizarre they might be]]. Even her classmates agree with her on them.



* ''Anime/KillLaKill'': Despite her dimwitted nature, [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} Mako]] surprisingly gives off some good advice once in a while, [[ChewbaccaDefense bizarre they might be]]. Even her classmates agree with her on them.



-->'''Sonic:''' ''[regarding Mobie the cave-bear]'' We should've left the big dope frozen!\\

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-->'''Sonic:''' ''[regarding ''(regarding Mobie the cave-bear]'' cave-bear)'' We should've left the big dope frozen!\\



* ''WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove'': Yzma tries to poison Kuzco, but her right-hand man Kronk mistakenly adds Extract of Llama to his drink, [[ForcedTransformation which turns Kuzco into a llama, instead]]. When they realize their mistake, Kronk says that [[ChekhovsGun all the vials in her lab are indistinguishable, so she should have labeled them better.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove'': Yzma tries to poison Kuzco, but her right-hand man Kronk mistakenly adds Extract of Llama to his drink, [[ForcedTransformation which turns Kuzco into a llama, instead]]. When they realize their mistake, Kronk says that [[ChekhovsGun all the vials in her lab are indistinguishable, so she should have labeled them better.]]better]].



--->'''Hudson:''' There's something. It's inside the complex. [snip] They're inside the perimeter. They're in here. [snip]\\

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--->'''Hudson:''' There's something. It's inside the complex. [snip] ''(snip)'' They're inside the perimeter. They're in here. [snip]\\''(snip)''\\



''[Other characters look at each other in amazement]''\\

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''[Other ''(Other characters look at each other in amazement]''\\amazement)''\\



''[{{beat}}]''\\

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''[{{beat}}]''\\''({{beat}})''\\



'''Richard M. Nixon:''' She understood something it's taken me 25 years in politics to understand. [[BlamingTheMan The CIA, the Mafia, those Wall Street bastards...]]\\

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'''Richard M. Nixon:''' She understood something it's taken me 25 years in politics to understand. [[BlamingTheMan The CIA, the Mafia, those Wall Street bastards...]]\\bastards]]...\\



'''Blackadder:''' ''[impressed]'' Your cousin Bert obviously has a larger vocabulary than you do, Baldrick.

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'''Blackadder:''' ''[impressed]'' ''(impressed)'' Your cousin Bert obviously has a larger vocabulary than you do, Baldrick.



** Another is when Walter and Mike are trying to figure out how to [[spoiler: rob a train of methylamine but fear they might have to go with a violent approach. Jesse suggests stealing it discreetly and filling the gallons they stole with water.]]

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** Another is when Walter and Mike are trying to figure out how to [[spoiler: rob [[spoiler:rob a train of methylamine but fear they might have to go with a violent approach. Jesse suggests stealing it discreetly and filling the gallons they stole with water.]] water]].



-->'''Buddy:''' ''[describes a bizarre event that unfolded exactly as he had predicted]'' Isn't that weird?\\

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-->'''Buddy:''' ''[describes ''(describes a bizarre event that unfolded exactly as he had predicted]'' predicted)'' Isn't that weird?\\



-->'''[[DeadpanSnarker Maggie]]:''' ''[after a beat of dead silence]'' The sound you hear is hell freezing over.

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-->'''[[DeadpanSnarker Maggie]]:''' ''[after ''(after a beat of dead silence]'' silence)'' The sound you hear is hell freezing over.



'''Merlin:''' ''[visibly in a massive daze]'' ''[[ItMakesSenseInContext You just inoculated me with half a bottle of sedative]]'', how am I supposed to hurry up??

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'''Merlin:''' ''[visibly ''(visibly in a massive daze]'' daze)'' ''[[ItMakesSenseInContext You just inoculated me with half a bottle of sedative]]'', how am I supposed to hurry up??



* In ''Series/{{MASH}}'', when a general's prized gun turned up missing and Radar was about to take the fall for the theft, Hawkeye and BJ confronted [[SmallNameBigEgo Major Burns]], who openly admired the gun when he saw it. Burns refused to answer their questions and accused them of convicting him without a trial, asking, "What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?" After Burns left, Hawkeye turned to BJ and asked, "Don't you hate it when he's right?" Subverted, because [[spoiler: Burns really was the thief]].

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* In ''Series/{{MASH}}'', when a general's prized gun turned up missing and Radar was about to take the fall for the theft, Hawkeye and BJ confronted [[SmallNameBigEgo Major Burns]], who openly admired the gun when he saw it. Burns refused to answer their questions and accused them of convicting him without a trial, asking, "What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?" After Burns left, Hawkeye turned to BJ and asked, "Don't you hate it when he's right?" Subverted, because [[spoiler: Burns [[spoiler:Burns really was the thief]].



'''Wallace:''' ''[a little stunned]'' Yeah. You're right. Yes.

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'''Wallace:''' ''[a ''(a little stunned]'' stunned)'' Yeah. You're right. Yes.



** "Did I Stutter?" features Stanley, having suffered through Michael's foolishness for years, finally blowing up at a meeting and telling Michael to leave him alone in a furious tone. Later on, Michael attempts a poorly thought-out lesson by pretending to fire Stanley. Stanley, angered by this, proceeds to go on a rant where he insults Michael by calling him a "professional idiot", causing Michael to snap and order everyone out except Stanley. The subsequent conversation features a rare moment of professional insight from Michael -- while Stanley might not respect Michael as a person, he ''cannot'' talk like that to a superior in the office. Stanley admits that he has has a point and the two shake hands.

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** "Did I Stutter?" features Stanley, having suffered through Michael's foolishness for years, finally blowing up at a meeting and telling Michael to leave him alone in a furious tone. Later on, Michael attempts a poorly thought-out lesson by pretending to fire Stanley. Stanley, angered by this, proceeds to go on a rant where he insults Michael by calling him a "professional idiot", causing Michael to snap and order everyone out except Stanley. The subsequent conversation features a rare moment of professional insight from Michael -- while Stanley might not respect Michael as a person, he ''cannot'' talk like that to a superior in the office. Stanley admits that he has has a point and the two shake hands.



** When he correctly deduces that [[spoiler:Boone]]'s death couldn't have possibly been a suicide as the police claim. [[spoiler:[[EntertaininglyWrong He comes to the incorrect conclusion that Boone was murdered, but the logic he used to reach that conclusion was sound]]]]

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** When he correctly deduces that [[spoiler:Boone]]'s death couldn't have possibly been a suicide as the police claim. [[spoiler:[[EntertaininglyWrong He comes to the incorrect conclusion that Boone was murdered, but the logic he used to reach that conclusion was sound]]]]sound]].]]



--> Chrissy: "Just common sense. I mean, if a mama bird has one baby bird and two worms, she's not gonna go out and get another baby bird, is she?"

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--> Chrissy: "Just -->Chrissy: Just common sense. I mean, if a mama bird has one baby bird and two worms, she's not gonna go out and get another baby bird, is she?" she?






* In ''VideoGame/SonicColors'', after [[spoiler: Eggman's plan backfires (again), Eggman questions how his plan failed. Cubot tells Eggman how this was expected and how Sonic always foils his plans]]. This exchange happens. Heck, even Orbot proceeds to applaud Cubot for paying attention.

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* In ''VideoGame/SonicColors'', after [[spoiler: Eggman's [[spoiler:Eggman's plan backfires (again), Eggman questions how his plan failed. Cubot tells Eggman how this was expected and how Sonic always foils his plans]]. This exchange happens. Heck, even Orbot proceeds to applaud Cubot for paying attention.



''[beat]''

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* When Scout is reading lines of "Ghost D.A." in the ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' comic "Unhappy Returns", Spy tells him to just take the public defender. Scout responds that the last two times they did that, they were assigned ''[[CloudCuckooLander Soldier]]'' and ''a lamp''. Fortunately, they manage to get a surprisingly competent lawyer during the trial. [[spoiler: Too bad Soldier snaps his neck.]]

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* When Scout is reading lines of "Ghost D.A." in the ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' comic "Unhappy Returns", Spy tells him to just take the public defender. Scout responds that the last two times they did that, they were assigned ''[[CloudCuckooLander Soldier]]'' and ''a lamp''. Fortunately, they manage to get a surprisingly competent lawyer during the trial. [[spoiler: Too [[spoiler:Too bad Soldier snaps his neck.]]



** In ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'', Akane Owari is often considered one of the dumbest characters in the game. During the first class trial to figure out who killed [[spoiler: Byakuya]] she gets frustrated trying to figure out how the killer was able to get around in the dark so she just blurts out, "What if the killer [[spoiler: used a light]]?!" Even she's pleasantly surprised when Hajime confirms a suspicion she just made up on the spot. [[spoiler: The killer had access to their own light source which they used to move around outside the dining hall.]] This tends to be a recurring trend in Non-Stop Debates in which you must agree with one of several theories presented, as often, the person in question randomly threw that theory out there.

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** In ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'', Akane Owari is often considered one of the dumbest characters in the game. During the first class trial to figure out who killed [[spoiler: Byakuya]] she gets frustrated trying to figure out how the killer was able to get around in the dark so she just blurts out, "What if the killer [[spoiler: used [[spoiler:used a light]]?!" Even she's pleasantly surprised when Hajime confirms a suspicion she just made up on the spot. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The killer had access to their own light source which they used to move around outside the dining hall.]] This tends to be a recurring trend in Non-Stop Debates in which you must agree with one of several theories presented, as often, the person in question randomly threw that theory out there.



* ''VisualNovel/ShinraiBrokenBeyondDespair''

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* ''VisualNovel/ShinraiBrokenBeyondDespair''''VisualNovel/ShinraiBrokenBeyondDespair'':



** Nobara Akadori is SuperGullible and about as dim-witted as Rie, but she finds it suspicious that [[spoiler:Momoko]] knew which guest room was unlocked and went there to [[spoiler:commit suicide by hanging herself.]] Nobara doesn't realize the significance of this information, namely [[spoiler:Momoko staged an elaborate plot to fake her suicide to kill herself and Hiro in a MurderSuicide and frame Kamen for the murders]], but Raiko notes it's a good observation on Nobara's part that implies [[spoiler:Momoko]] had planned things out rather than acting on impulse.

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** Nobara Akadori is SuperGullible and about as dim-witted as Rie, but she finds it suspicious that [[spoiler:Momoko]] knew which guest room was unlocked and went there to [[spoiler:commit suicide by hanging herself.]] herself]]. Nobara doesn't realize the significance of this information, namely [[spoiler:Momoko staged an elaborate plot to fake her suicide to kill herself and Hiro in a MurderSuicide and frame Kamen for the murders]], but Raiko notes it's a good observation on Nobara's part that implies [[spoiler:Momoko]] had planned things out rather than acting on impulse.



-->'''Sage:''' ''[calling out to the fleeing teammate]'' Neptune, what are you doing!?\\
'''Neptune:''' ''[now standing on a ledge near the top of the formation, yelling down to his friends]'' Uh, you know, just gaining some higher ground!\\
'''Sun:''' ''[exasperatedly]'' On the enemy's side!?\\

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-->'''Sage:''' ''[calling ''(calling out to the fleeing teammate]'' teammate)'' Neptune, what are you doing!?\\
'''Neptune:''' ''[now ''(now standing on a ledge near the top of the formation, yelling down to his friends]'' friends)'' Uh, you know, just gaining some higher ground!\\
'''Sun:''' ''[exasperatedly]'' ''(exasperatedly)'' On the enemy's side!?\\



'''Dew:''' ''[turning to her allies]'' He's not wrong.

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'''Dew:''' ''[turning ''(turning to her allies]'' allies)'' He's not wrong.



** In "If Mario Was In... Anime," when Axol loses his title as the world's best anime artist, Mario quickly realizes, and points out, that it's because ever since his Inkweaver broke, Axol hasn't really drawn any anime and just spends most of his time fawning over Melony. Axol acknowledges this, and it gives him the incentive to repair Inkweaver.

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** In "If Mario Was In... Anime," Anime", when Axol loses his title as the world's best anime artist, Mario quickly realizes, and points out, that it's because ever since his Inkweaver broke, Axol hasn't really drawn any anime and just spends most of his time fawning over Melony. Axol acknowledges this, and it gives him the incentive to repair Inkweaver.



** For a moronic [[ReallyGetsAround man-whore]], Joe has surprisingly frequent moments of making sense. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/casualbang/ Case in point:]]

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** For a moronic [[ReallyGetsAround man-whore]], Joe has surprisingly frequent moments of making sense. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/casualbang/ Case in point:]]point]]:



** Much later, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0747.html he points out the flaws on Haley's position.]]
--->'''Haley:''' ''[after gulping a jar of beer]'' Am I drunk enough yet that later, I won't remember getting out-logicked by Elan?\\

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** Much later, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0747.html he points out the flaws on Haley's position.]]
position]].
--->'''Haley:''' ''[after ''(after gulping a jar of beer]'' beer)'' Am I drunk enough yet that later, I won't remember getting out-logicked by Elan?\\

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-->'''Calvin:''' ''[after being pummelled]'' ..I guess that has a certain unethical logic to it...

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-->'''Calvin:''' ''[after ''(after being pummelled]'' ..pummelled)'' ...I guess that has a certain unethical logic to it...



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* ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'': Instead of punching Gohan like he does in the show, this is how [[IdiotHero Goku]] convinces his son to not go attacking Cell in a blind rage:
-->'''Gohan:''' Mr. Piccolo would let me go!\\
'''Goku:''' No, he wouldn't! And he is smarter than me!\\
'''Gohan:''' I...! Wow... that's actually a good point.
* ''Metaverse'': Sirius tries to buy the ''Daily Prophet'' in order to stop it from slandering Harry and himself, only to be turned down. His wife Helga, who used to be [[ItMakesSenseInContext a house elf]], suggests that if he can't buy the paper, then he should buy their ''paper''. (I.e., their future supply of printing paper.)
* ''Fanfic/TriptychContinuum'': In "[[Recap/TriptychContinuumNakedLunch Naked Lunch]]", although Gerald's ways of expressing it really are stupid in practice, he does have a legitimate point. Individuals with specific dietary needs -- herbivores in Protocera, carnivores and owners of carnivorous pets in Equestria, omnivores in both countries -- should not have to feel ashamed of themselves for the things they eat, should certainly not have to resort to buying animal food to feed themselves, and should be given the right to openly acquire the things they need.
* ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3875948/1/Be-A-Realist Be a Realist]]'': Naruto doesn't want to know who his parents are. Simply, he prefers the idea that they loved him and wanted to take care of him but died for some reason. The idea that they were alive and abandoned him is simply too depressing. Sasuke finds it stupid that Naruto would not want to know where he came from, and Sai suggests that knowing his parents might also help him know what he could inherit from them, but Kakashi knows that Naruto is actually right.
-->'''Kakashi:''' [[LampshadeHanging For an ignorant dream, it was rather accurate]].
* In the ''Manga/LoveHina'' story ''Girls in the Mist'', when Motoko notes how often Keitaro has an {{accident|alPervert}}, Keitaro responds that despite the frequency of said accidents, none of the girls ever move out of the way. Motoko admits he does have a point.
* Xander's explanation in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9663877/11/And-Another-Thing-I-Hate-About-You And Another Thing I Hate About You]]'' of why a relationship between Angel and Cordelia would never work makes far more sense than Angel is comfortable admitting. Particularly when he explains what would happen if being with Cordelia didn't break the curse (by giving him a moment of perfect happiness).
-->'''Xander:''' Cordelia Chase. Junior Miss California, seventh grade. May Queen, Queen of Sunnydale High 1996, prettiest girl in Sunnydale eighteen years running. Miss "I have to have the most expensive thing not because it's the best, but because it's expensive". Used to nothing but the very best of everything for all her life, until maybe lately. And ''then'' she gets slapped in the face with the fact that the guy she maybe falls in love with ''isn't'', ''can't be'', ''doesn't'' get a rush of perfect fucking happiness ''just'' from being with ''her''. Long term? Man, that knowledge would eat at and fucking ''destroy'' her.\\
'''Angel:''' She's stronger than that.\\
'''Xander:''' She shouldn't ''have'' to be... I dunno much. But I do know: when you love someone, it's not about ''you''. It's your whole fucking world wrapped up in what's best for them, and what makes them happiest. It's reaching for the moon, just because it's ''there'', and it makes their eyes ''glow''. When you love someone, really love them: you ''don't'' make them settle. You just ''don't.''
* ''Fanfic/RigTheGameRoyal'': Ryuji, in Chapter 26, responds to the concerns about how it could be suspicious that victims of Kamoshida and Madarame were meeting up. He suggests that they tell the truth: Yusuke asked Rem and Ann to become models for them and they became friends along the way. Not the whole truth, of course, but still the truth.

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!!!{{Crossover}}s
* ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'': Instead of punching Gohan Luffy is still an IdiotHero like he does canon in the show, this is how [[IdiotHero Goku]] convinces his son to not go attacking Cell in a blind rage:
-->'''Gohan:''' Mr. Piccolo would let me go!\\
'''Goku:''' No, he wouldn't! And he is smarter than me!\\
'''Gohan:''' I...! Wow... that's actually a good point.
* ''Metaverse'': Sirius tries to buy the ''Daily Prophet'' in order to stop it from slandering Harry and himself, only to be turned down. His wife Helga, who used to be [[ItMakesSenseInContext a house elf]], suggests that if he can't buy the paper, then he should buy their ''paper''. (I.e., their future supply of printing paper.)
* ''Fanfic/TriptychContinuum'': In "[[Recap/TriptychContinuumNakedLunch Naked Lunch]]", although Gerald's ways of expressing it really are stupid in practice, he does have a legitimate point. Individuals with specific dietary needs -- herbivores in Protocera, carnivores and owners of carnivorous pets in Equestria, omnivores in both countries -- should not have to feel ashamed of themselves for the things they eat, should certainly not have to resort to buying animal food to feed themselves, and should be given the right to openly acquire the things they need.
* ''[[http://www.
''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3875948/1/Be-A-Realist Be a Realist]]'': Naruto doesn't want to know who his parents are. Simply, he prefers net/s/11961369/7/Blood-Man-Luffy Blood Man Luffy]]'' but correctly uses the idea that they loved him proverb "Blood is thicker than water" when he learns of Nami's adoptive family. Nami gets upset and wanted to take care of him but died says they're as close as any family, only for some reason. The idea that they were alive and abandoned him is simply too depressing. Sasuke finds it stupid that Naruto would not want Luffy to know where he came from, and Sai suggests that knowing his parents might also help him know remark that's what he could inherit from them, but Kakashi knows that Naruto said: "Blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb." [[spoiler:It should be noted this is actually right.
-->'''Kakashi:''' [[LampshadeHanging For an ignorant dream, it
incorrect and a modern change to the quote, the original quote was rather accurate]].
about how family is more important than distance. Source 1180; English: Reynard the Fox. "I also hear it said, kin-blood is not spoiled by water", which may in part refer to distance not changing familial ties or duties, due to the high seas being tamed]].
* In the ''Manga/LoveHina'' story ''Girls in ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''/''Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}}'' crossover ''Blue Belle'', Harmony and Brittany (the former considered too dumb to walk and chew gum at the Mist'', when Motoko notes how often Keitaro has an {{accident|alPervert}}, Keitaro responds that despite same time and the frequency of said accidents, none of latter only marginally smarter) figure out what book was stolen by a vampire before anyone else by simply checking off every book on the girls ever move out of the way. Motoko card index they can find. Giles even admits he does wouldn't have a point.
* Xander's explanation in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9663877/11/And-Another-Thing-I-Hate-About-You And Another Thing I Hate About You]]''
thought of why a relationship between Angel and Cordelia would never work makes far more sense than Angel is comfortable admitting. Particularly when he explains what would happen if being with Cordelia didn't break something so simple.
* ''Fanfic/TheBoysRealJustice'': The Trickster may not be
the curse (by giving him a moment of perfect happiness).
-->'''Xander:''' Cordelia Chase. Junior Miss California, seventh grade. May Queen, Queen of Sunnydale High 1996, prettiest girl in Sunnydale eighteen years running. Miss "I have to have the most expensive thing not because it's the best, but because it's expensive". Used to nothing but the very best of everything for all her life, until maybe lately. And ''then'' she gets slapped
sharpest tool in the face with the fact shed at first glance, and Butcher clearly considers him to be an idiot, but even he can see Butcher's ego is his FatalFlaw and that he is out of his depth in the guy she maybe falls DC Universe:
-->'''Trickster''': Hey, you've been bitched by every single supervillain
in love with ''isn't'', ''can't be'', ''doesn't'' get a rush of perfect fucking happiness ''just'' from being with ''her''. Long term? Man, that knowledge would eat at Gotham and fucking ''destroy'' her.\\
'''Angel:''' She's stronger than that.\\
'''Xander:''' She shouldn't ''have'' to be... I dunno much. But I do know: when you love someone, it's not about ''you''. It's
got your whole fucking world wrapped up in what's best for them, ass kicked by Deathstroke. Maybe you should see you're not hot shit and what makes them happiest. It's reaching for I'm the moon, just because it's ''there'', and it makes their eyes ''glow''. When you love someone, really love them: you ''don't'' make them settle. You just ''don't.''
* ''Fanfic/RigTheGameRoyal'': Ryuji, in Chapter 26, responds to the concerns about how it could be suspicious that victims of Kamoshida and Madarame were meeting up. He suggests that they tell the truth: Yusuke asked Rem and Ann to become models for them and they became friends along the way. Not the whole truth, of course, but still the truth.
bigger fish on this pod.



* In the ''Film/{{Brightburn}}'' fic ''Fanfic/AMonstersNature'', this trope isn't explicitly invoked, but considering Brandon's low opinion of any human that isn't Caitlyn, this arguably applies to him letting Caitlyn's friend Michelle ask his cultists questions as she makes valid points.
* In ''Fanfic/AThingOfVikings'', while Stoick may not be stupid, it's still unexpected when he's the one who realises that dragons shed their scales a week or so before their eggs hatch so that they can use the scales as material for fireproof nests.

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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13193683/4/Ere-we-go-Pluz-Ultra Ere we go, Pluz Ultra!]]'': Izuku is functionally an [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 Ork]] with all the ''Film/{{Brightburn}}'' fic ''Fanfic/AMonstersNature'', this trope mental faculties that entails but points out that Momo's Quirk can't be using her fat to build things because her weight hasn't visibly changed after all the things she made during the Quirk Assessment Test.
** He also responds to Tsuyu's insistence on being called Tsu-chan by pointing out that if she calls others what she wants, she'll have to accept them doing the same to her.
* ''Fanfic/GrowthThroughChaos'': Luffy
isn't explicitly invoked, the sharpest knife in the drawer, but considering Brandon's low opinion he can be surprisingly insightful, wanting Manga/{{Naruto}} and the other ninja because of any human their ability to WalkOnWater. Even Zoro admits that while Luffy may not have that many good ideas, the few he has haven't been wrong thus far.
* Blitzo, in ''Fanfic/HelluvaJob'', doesn't even flinch at St. Anger's death threat, citing the fact that I.M.P. is still alive means St. Anger never considered killing them and stealing the grimoire an option at any point. St. Anger notes that Blitzo
isn't Caitlyn, this arguably applies to him letting Caitlyn's friend Michelle ask his cultists questions as she stupid as he lets on.
* Ranma in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11577216/1/A-Horse-For-the-Force A Horse for the Force]]''
makes valid points.
* In ''Fanfic/AThingOfVikings'', while Stoick may not
an almost offhand observation how freely Jedi take lives with their lightsabers even though they're supposed to be stupid, it's still unexpected when guardians rather than soldiers. As a result, on a later mission Kit Fisto makes a point to only sever limbs of the pirates he's fighting. It still puts them out of the one who realises that dragons shed their scales a week or so before their eggs hatch so that they can use the scales as material for fireproof nests.fight, but he doesn't kill them.



* In the ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''/''Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}}'' crossover '' Blue Belle'', Harmony and Brittany (the former considered too dumb to walk and chew gum at the same time and the latter only marginally smarter) figure out what book was stolen by a vampire before anyone else by simply checking off every book on the card index they can find. Giles even admits he wouldn't have thought of something so simple.



* In the ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''/''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable'' {{Crossover}} ''Fanfic/RemnantsBizarreAdventure'', Okuyasu's catchphrase is "I'm not very smart." That being said, he was the first person to point out to Weiss Schnee that [[PoorCommunicationKills she should just talk to Blake]] over what happened at the end of RWBY Volume 1. [[spoiler:At the end of the ''Lock and Key'' arc, Weiss outright acknowledged that Okuyasu was right, and the fight against Tamami Kobayashi would have gone much more smoothly if she and Blake had talked things out beforehand.]]

!!!''Franchise/AvatarTheLastAirbender''
* In ''Fanfic/TheStalkingZukoSeries'', Chit Sang, like in canon, is [[DumbMuscle strong but not especially bright]], such as forgetting to tell Zuko about "cooler fever." However, he notices that Aang's defensive reaction when called out over sparing Ozai means that Aang is actually starting to regret his decision.

!!''Film/{{Brightburn}}''
* In ''Fanfic/AMonstersNature'', this trope isn't explicitly invoked, but considering Brandon's low opinion of any human that isn't Caitlyn, this arguably applies to him letting Caitlyn's friend Michelle ask his cultists questions as she makes valid points.

!!!''Franchise/{{Buffyverse}}''
* Xander's explanation in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9663877/11/And-Another-Thing-I-Hate-About-You And Another Thing I Hate About You]]'' of why a relationship between Angel and Cordelia would never work makes far more sense than Angel is comfortable admitting. Particularly when he explains what would happen if being with Cordelia didn't break the curse (by giving him a moment of perfect happiness).
-->'''Xander:''' Cordelia Chase. Junior Miss California, seventh grade. May Queen, Queen of Sunnydale High 1996, prettiest girl in Sunnydale eighteen years running. Miss "I have to have the most expensive thing not because it's the best, but because it's expensive". Used to nothing but the very best of everything for all her life, until maybe lately. And ''then'' she gets slapped in the face with the fact that the guy she maybe falls in love with ''isn't'', ''can't be'', ''doesn't'' get a rush of perfect fucking happiness ''just'' from being with ''her''. Long term? Man, that knowledge would eat at and fucking ''destroy'' her.\\
'''Angel:''' She's stronger than that.\\
'''Xander:''' She shouldn't ''have'' to be... I dunno much. But I do know: when you love someone, it's not about ''you''. It's your whole fucking world wrapped up in what's best for them, and what makes them happiest. It's reaching for the moon, just because it's ''there'', and it makes their eyes ''glow''. When you love someone, really love them: you ''don't'' make them settle. You just ''don't''.
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11181910/5/Yet-Again-Still-Even-More-Fragments Dark Arts and Crafts]]'', Xander has two surprisingly insightful moments regarding Angel. First, while they do know now that Angel is a vampire, he's also been helpful in the past so they should reserve judgment until they know more. Second, Xander notes that redemption is more than just helping someone because you hurt someone else.
-->'''Xander:''' Being a good person is like jumping in a lake. When you're wet, you're wet. And being dry now doesn't change the fact you were wet earlier.




!!!''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}''
* While still slower on the uptake than others, [[TheMillstone Yasuhiro Hagakure]] points out in ''Fanfic/Class78thWatchesTheFuture'' that Makoto Naegi's "bad luck" in getting a faulty bathroom door [[UnluckilyLucky made it easier for him to prove himself innocent]] in the first case in [[VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc their future]]. The reaction from pretty much everyone else was StunnedSilence, with Celeste putting it best.
-->'''Celeste''': I think Hiro said something intelligent for once.

!!!''Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon''
* ''Fanfic/TheBoltChronicles'': In "The Protection Payment", Bobby the pigeon normally says and does dumb things and is sometimes seen ComicallyMissingThePoint. Once in a rare while, though, he's more perceptive than his pigeon pals -- most notably when he begins to wonder aloud whether the declawed cat Mittens (who is extorting food from them in a ProtectionRacket) actually has the claws she claims to possess. In this specific instance, his aghast friends frantically shush him, not realizing he's right.



* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11181910/5/Yet-Again-Still-Even-More-Fragments Dark Arts and Crafts]]'', Xander has two surprisingly insightful moments regarding Angel. First, while they do know now that Angel is a vampire, he's also been helpful in the past so they should reserve judgment until they know more. Second, Xander notes that redemption is more than just helping someone because you hurt someone else.
-->'''Xander:''' Being a good person is like jumping in a lake. When you're wet, you're wet. And being dry now doesn't change the fact you were wet earlier.
* In ''Fanfic/TheStalkingZukoSeries'', Chit Sang, like [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender in canon]], is [[DumbMuscle strong but not especially bright]], such as forgetting to tell Zuko about "cooler fever." However, he notices that Aang's defensive reaction when called out over sparing Ozai means that Aang is actually starting to regret his decision.
* Luffy is still an IdiotHero like canon in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11961369/7/Blood-Man-Luffy Blood Man Luffy]]'' but correctly uses the proverb "Blood is thicker than water" when he learns of Nami's adoptive family. Nami gets upset and says they're as close as any family, only for Luffy to remark that's what he said: "Blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb." [[spoiler:It should be noted this is actually incorrect and a modern change to the quote, the original quote was about how family is more important than distance. Source 1180; English: Reynard the Fox. "I also hear it said, kin-blood is not spoiled by water", which may in part refer to distance not changing familial ties or duties, due to the high seas being tamed]].
* Ranma in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11577216/1/A-Horse-For-the-Force A Horse for the Force]]'' makes an almost offhand observation how freely Jedi take lives with their lightsabers even though they're supposed to be guardians rather than soldiers. As a result, on a later mission Kit Fisto makes a point to only sever limbs of the pirates he's fighting. It still puts them out of the fight, but he doesn't kill them.
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10685852/25/On-a-Pale-Horse On a Pale Horse]]'', Ron Weasley is proven to be considerably more insightful regarding Harry than Hermione is. Besides realizing he can encourage the underweight Harry to eat more by over-eating himself, he convinces Harry to goof off rather than study because he knows Hermione is unknowingly bullying Harry into it and some goofing off can help Harry relax. Furthermore, Ron is the only one to immediately recognize Death as an alternate Harry, figuring it out even faster than Harry had earlier. When asked, Ron simply responds that of course he recognizes his best mate.
* Blitzo, in ''Fanfic/HelluvaJob'', doesn't even flinch at St. Anger's death threat, citing the fact that I.M.P. is still alive means St. Anger never considered killing them and stealing the grimoire an option at any point. St. Anger notes that Blitzo isn't as stupid as he lets on.

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!!!''Franchise/DragonBall''
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11181910/5/Yet-Again-Still-Even-More-Fragments Dark Arts and Crafts]]'', Xander has two surprisingly insightful moments regarding Angel. First, while they do know now that Angel is a vampire, he's also been helpful ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'': Instead of punching Gohan like he does in the past so they should reserve judgment until they know more. Second, Xander notes that redemption show, this is more how [[IdiotHero Goku]] convinces his son to not go attacking Cell in a blind rage:
-->'''Gohan:''' Mr. Piccolo would let me go!\\
'''Goku:''' No, he wouldn't! And he is smarter
than just helping someone because you hurt someone else.
-->'''Xander:''' Being a good person is like jumping in a lake. When you're wet, you're wet. And being dry now doesn't change the fact you were wet earlier.
* In ''Fanfic/TheStalkingZukoSeries'', Chit Sang, like [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender in canon]], is [[DumbMuscle strong but not especially bright]], such as forgetting to tell Zuko about "cooler fever." However, he notices that Aang's defensive reaction when called out over sparing Ozai means that Aang is actually starting to regret his decision.
* Luffy is still an IdiotHero like canon in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11961369/7/Blood-Man-Luffy Blood Man Luffy]]'' but correctly uses the proverb "Blood is thicker than water" when he learns of Nami's adoptive family. Nami gets upset and says they're as close as any family, only for Luffy to remark
me!\\
'''Gohan:''' I...! Wow...
that's what he said: "Blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb." [[spoiler:It should be noted this is actually incorrect and a modern change to the quote, the original quote was about how family is more important than distance. Source 1180; English: Reynard the Fox. "I also hear it said, kin-blood is not spoiled by water", which may in part refer to distance not changing familial ties or duties, due to the high seas being tamed]].
* Ranma in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11577216/1/A-Horse-For-the-Force A Horse for the Force]]'' makes an almost offhand observation how freely Jedi take lives with their lightsabers even though they're supposed to be guardians rather than soldiers. As a result, on a later mission Kit Fisto makes a point to only sever limbs of the pirates he's fighting. It still puts them out of the fight, but he doesn't kill them.
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10685852/25/On-a-Pale-Horse On a Pale Horse]]'', Ron Weasley is proven to be considerably more insightful regarding Harry than Hermione is. Besides realizing he can encourage the underweight Harry to eat more by over-eating himself, he convinces Harry to goof off rather than study because he knows Hermione is unknowingly bullying Harry into it and some goofing off can help Harry relax. Furthermore, Ron is the only one to immediately recognize Death as an alternate Harry, figuring it out even faster than Harry had earlier. When asked, Ron simply responds that of course he recognizes his best mate.
* Blitzo, in ''Fanfic/HelluvaJob'', doesn't even flinch at St. Anger's death threat, citing the fact that I.M.P. is still alive means St. Anger never considered killing them and stealing the grimoire an option at any point. St. Anger notes that Blitzo isn't as stupid as he lets on.
good point.



* ''Fanfic/ADiplomaticVisit'': [[spoiler: In chapter 11 of the sequel ''Diplomat at Large'', when Sonata Dusk realizes that Adagio had used her magic to influence them and wonders why, Aria admits that "The ditz has a point." before reminding Adagio that sirens have their own rules, one of which is that they ''never'' use their powers on one another]].
* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13193683/4/Ere-we-go-Pluz-Ultra Ere we go, Pluz Ultra!]]'': Izuku is functionally an [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 Ork]] with all the mental faculties that entails but points out that Momo's Quirk can't be using her fat to build things because her weight hasn't visibly changed after all the things she made during the Quirk Assessment Test.
** He also responds to Tsuyu's insistence on being called Tsu-chan by pointing out that if she calls others what she wants, she'll have to accept them doing the same to her.
* While still slower on the uptake than others, [[TheMillstone Yasuhiro Hagakure]] points out in ''Fanfic/Class78thWatchesTheFuture'' that Makoto Naegi's "bad luck" in getting a faulty bathroom door [[UnluckilyLucky made it easier for him to prove himself innocent]] in the first case in [[VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc their future]]. The reaction from pretty much everyone else was StunnedSilence, with Celeste putting it best.
--> '''Celeste''': I think Hiro said something intelligent for once.
* ''Fanfic/TheBoltChronicles'': In "The Protection Payment," Bobby the pigeon normally says and does dumb things and is sometimes seen ComicallyMissingThePoint. Once in a rare while, though, he's more perceptive than his pigeon pals -- most notably when he begins to wonder aloud whether the declawed cat Mittens (who is extorting food from them in a ProtectionRacket) actually has the claws she claims to possess. In this specific instance, his aghast friends frantically shush him, not realizing he's right.
* ''Fanfic/TheBoysRealJustice'': The Trickster may not be the sharpest tool in the shed at first glance, and Butcher clearly considers him to be an idiot, but even he can see Butcher's ego is his FatalFlaw and that he is out of his depth in the DC Universe:
-->'''Trickster''': “Hey, you’ve been bitched by every single supervillain in Gotham and got your ass kicked by Deathstroke. Maybe you should see you’re not hot shit and I’m the bigger fish on this pod.”
* In the ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''/''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable'' {{Crossover}} ''Fanfic/RemnantsBizarreAdventure'', Okuyasu's catchphrase is "I'm not very smart." That being said, he was the first person to point out to Weiss Schnee that [[PoorCommunicationKills she should just talk to Blake]] over what happened at the end of RWBY Volume 1. [[spoiler:At the end of the ''Lock and Key'' arc, Weiss outright acknowledged that Okuyasu was right, and the fight against Tamami Kobayashi would have gone much more smoothly if she and Blake had talked things out beforehand.]]
* In ''[[https://m.fanfiction.net/s/13008202/1/A-Rock-N-Roll-Love-Confession A Rock N' Roll Confession]]'', Jagged Stone is a rock-n-roll ditz who thought the best place to get romantic advice for confessing to Penny was to grab Marinette from school without telling an adult. However, he was able to figure out that Chat Noir is Adrien thanks to [[INeverSaidItWasPoison a few sentences and events that only one of them could know]]. He also reveals he knows Marinette was Ladybug because in the past he brought her to a school for safety, revealing her as a student, and that both of them had the same black-blue hair and blue eyes.
** When Jagged was essentially trapped in his hotel room because of Chloe's pestering, he decided the best way to entertain himself was by checking up on Marinette's friends... specifically on Mylene's Facebook page which in a different matter [[NotWhatItLooksLike would be seen as cyberstalking]]. He isn't wrong to point out that Mylene didn't use a privacy setting on her page like her friends, with both Marinette and later Ivan deciding to talk to Mylene about this.

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* ''Fanfic/ADiplomaticVisit'': [[spoiler: In chapter 11 of the sequel ''Diplomat at Large'', when Sonata Dusk realizes that Adagio had used her magic to influence them and wonders why, Aria admits that "The ditz has a point." before reminding Adagio that sirens have their own rules, one of which is that they ''never'' use their powers on one another]].
* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13193683/4/Ere-we-go-Pluz-Ultra Ere we go, Pluz Ultra!]]'': Izuku is functionally an [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 Ork]] with all the mental faculties that entails but points out that Momo's Quirk can't be using her fat to build things because her weight hasn't visibly changed after all the things she made during the Quirk Assessment Test.
** He also responds to Tsuyu's insistence on being called Tsu-chan by pointing out that if she calls others what she wants, she'll have to accept them doing the same to her.
* While still slower on the uptake than others, [[TheMillstone Yasuhiro Hagakure]] points out in ''Fanfic/Class78thWatchesTheFuture'' that Makoto Naegi's "bad luck" in getting a faulty bathroom door [[UnluckilyLucky made it easier for him to prove himself innocent]] in the first case in [[VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc their future]]. The reaction from pretty much everyone else was StunnedSilence, with Celeste putting it best.
--> '''Celeste''': I think Hiro said something intelligent for once.
* ''Fanfic/TheBoltChronicles'': In "The Protection Payment," Bobby the pigeon normally says and does dumb things and is sometimes seen ComicallyMissingThePoint. Once in a rare while, though, he's more perceptive than his pigeon pals -- most notably when he begins to wonder aloud whether the declawed cat Mittens (who is extorting food from them in a ProtectionRacket) actually has the claws she claims to possess. In this specific instance, his aghast friends frantically shush him, not realizing he's right.
* ''Fanfic/TheBoysRealJustice'': The Trickster may not be the sharpest tool in the shed at first glance, and Butcher clearly considers him to be an idiot, but even he can see Butcher's ego is his FatalFlaw and that he is out of his depth in the DC Universe:
-->'''Trickster''': “Hey, you’ve been bitched by every single supervillain in Gotham and got your ass kicked by Deathstroke. Maybe you should see you’re not hot shit and I’m the bigger fish on this pod.”
* In the ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''/''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable'' {{Crossover}} ''Fanfic/RemnantsBizarreAdventure'', Okuyasu's catchphrase is "I'm not very smart." That being said, he was the first person to point out to Weiss Schnee that [[PoorCommunicationKills she should just talk to Blake]] over what happened at the end of RWBY Volume 1. [[spoiler:At the end of the ''Lock and Key'' arc, Weiss outright acknowledged that Okuyasu was right, and the fight against Tamami Kobayashi would have gone much more smoothly if she and Blake had talked things out beforehand.]]
* In ''[[https://m.fanfiction.net/s/13008202/1/A-Rock-N-Roll-Love-Confession A Rock N' Roll Confession]]'', Jagged Stone is a rock-n-roll ditz who thought the best place to get romantic advice for confessing to Penny was to grab Marinette from school without telling an adult. However, he was able to figure out that Chat Noir is Adrien thanks to [[INeverSaidItWasPoison a few sentences and events that only one of them could know]]. He also reveals he knows Marinette was Ladybug because in the past he brought her to a school for safety, revealing her as a student, and that both of them had the same black-blue hair and blue eyes.
** When Jagged was essentially trapped in his hotel room because of Chloe's pestering, he decided the best way to entertain himself was by checking up on Marinette's friends... specifically on Mylene's Facebook page which in a different matter [[NotWhatItLooksLike would be seen as cyberstalking]]. He isn't wrong to point out that Mylene didn't use a privacy setting on her page like her friends, with both Marinette and later Ivan deciding to talk to Mylene about this.

!!!''Franchise/FateSeries''



* ''Fanfic/ThisBites'': While Luffy has gotten smarter thanks to Cross's influence, it's not enough for a DumbassNoMore. Still, he has a few moments of insight.
** Upon hearing that [[spoiler:[[SparedByAdaptation Merry]] can never return to her ship form without tearing herself apart]], Luffy comments that it doesn't matter, saying that the important thing is that [[spoiler:Merry is still alive and can continue traveling with the Straw Hats]]. Everyone is dumbstruck by how much sense he made.
** During Strong World, he's the first one to figure out that the mutated animals [[BatmanGambit have been playing them]]. How? The forest was too quiet, and he realized that wouldn't be the case unless the animals within were preparing for something. After listening to Cross and Boss's discussion over the plants and their chemical properties, he starts connecting the dots, and the other two finish it for him.
** There's also the part where he figures out that Shiki is evil:
--->'''Shiki''': I find myself curious, Straw Hat!...You somehow suspected me when you had no right to! How did that happen?\\
'''Luffy''': I remembered you from Shanks' stories! And he said that you were the most evil, hateful bastard of a tyrant that he ever met!\\
'''Shiki''': Sticks and stones, my boy! The words of none will ever hurt me! Not yours, not your third mate's, and certainly not that Red-Haired brat's either! JIHAHAHA!
** In chapter 60, Tashigi mentions to the Straw Hats that the Marines were having a hard time rounding up the remains of the [[spoiler:Golden Lion Pirates]] because ''someone'' burned Enies Lobby to the ground. Luffy points out that the Marines did that themselves with their Buster Call. Even if he was right, that doesn't stop Tashigi from giving him a DopeSlap.
** When the blockade of Sabaody Archipelago puts Cross's newest plan in jeopardy, Luffy's the one to point out that if they waste too much time trying to break through it, an ''Admiral'' will definitely arrive there to destroy them.

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!!!''Franchise/HarryPotter''
* ''Fanfic/ThisBites'': While Luffy has gotten smarter thanks ''Metaverse'': Sirius tries to Cross's influence, buy the ''Daily Prophet'' in order to stop it from slandering Harry and himself, only to be turned down. His wife Helga, who used to be [[ItMakesSenseInContext a house elf]], suggests that if he can't buy the paper, then he should buy their ''paper''. (I.e., their future supply of printing paper.)
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10685852/25/On-a-Pale-Horse On a Pale Horse]]'', Ron Weasley is proven to be considerably more insightful regarding Harry than Hermione is. Besides realizing he can encourage the underweight Harry to eat more by over-eating himself, he convinces Harry to goof off rather than study because he knows Hermione is unknowingly bullying Harry into it and some goofing off can help Harry relax. Furthermore, Ron is the only one to immediately recognize Death as an alternate Harry, figuring it out even faster than Harry had earlier. When asked, Ron simply responds that of course he recognizes his best mate.

!!!''Franchise/HowToTrainYourDragon''
* In ''Fanfic/AThingOfVikings'', while Stoick may not be stupid,
it's not enough for a DumbassNoMore. Still, he has a few moments of insight.
** Upon hearing that [[spoiler:[[SparedByAdaptation Merry]] can never return to her ship form without tearing herself apart]], Luffy comments that it doesn't matter, saying that the important thing is that [[spoiler:Merry is
still alive and can continue traveling with the Straw Hats]]. Everyone is dumbstruck by how much sense he made.
** During Strong World,
unexpected when he's the first one to figure who realises that dragons shed their scales a week or so before their eggs hatch so that they can use the scales as material for fireproof nests.

!!!''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim''
* ''Fanfic/TopOfTheLineEditorBug'': Purple doesn't take the SIR Unit tournament as seriously as Red does, pointing
out that the mutated animals [[BatmanGambit have been playing them]]. How? The forest was too quiet, and he realized that wouldn't be the case unless the animals within were preparing whole thing is just something they put together at random for something. After listening to Cross and Boss's discussion over the plants and their chemical properties, he starts connecting the dots, and the other two finish it for him.
** There's also the part where he figures out that Shiki is evil:
--->'''Shiki''': I find myself curious, Straw Hat!...You somehow suspected me when you had no right to! How did that happen?\\
'''Luffy''': I remembered you from Shanks' stories! And he said that you were the most evil, hateful bastard of a tyrant that he ever met!\\
'''Shiki''': Sticks and stones, my boy! The words of none will ever hurt me! Not yours, not your third mate's, and certainly not that Red-Haired brat's either! JIHAHAHA!
** In chapter 60, Tashigi mentions to the Straw Hats that the Marines were having a hard time rounding up the remains of the [[spoiler:Golden Lion Pirates]] because ''someone'' burned Enies Lobby to the ground. Luffy points out that the Marines did that themselves with their Buster Call. Even if he was right, that doesn't stop Tashigi from giving him a DopeSlap.
** When the blockade of Sabaody Archipelago puts Cross's newest plan in jeopardy, Luffy's the one to point out that if they waste too much time trying to break through it, an ''Admiral'' will definitely arrive there to destroy them.
entertainment.

!!!''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse''




!!!''Manga/LoveHina''
* In the ''Manga/LoveHina'' story ''Girls in the Mist'', when Motoko notes how often Keitaro has an {{accident|alPervert}}, Keitaro responds that despite the frequency of said accidents, none of the girls ever move out of the way. Motoko admits he does have a point.

!!!''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug''
* ''Fanfic/{{CONSEQUENCES|MiraculousLadybug}}'': The plot of ''CUTTING THE STRINGS'' occurs because [[DumbJock Kim]] figures out that Lila is lying about getting a torn ankle muscle but getting back up to help Ladybug, as he knows that it would be impossible to move with such an injury. {{Justified|Trope}} as he had gone through the same injury very recently, so he had the experience to disprove her claim.
* In ''[[https://m.fanfiction.net/s/13008202/1/A-Rock-N-Roll-Love-Confession A Rock N' Roll Confession]]'', Jagged Stone is a rock-n-roll ditz who thought the best place to get romantic advice for confessing to Penny was to grab Marinette from school without telling an adult. However, he was able to figure out that Chat Noir is Adrien thanks to [[INeverSaidItWasPoison a few sentences and events that only one of them could know]]. He also reveals he knows Marinette was Ladybug because in the past he brought her to a school for safety, revealing her as a student, and that both of them had the same black-blue hair and blue eyes.
** When Jagged was essentially trapped in his hotel room because of Chloe's pestering, he decided the best way to entertain himself was by checking up on Marinette's friends... specifically on Mylene's Facebook page which in a different matter [[NotWhatItLooksLike would be seen as cyberstalking]]. He isn't wrong to point out that Mylene didn't use a privacy setting on her page like her friends, with both Marinette and later Ivan deciding to talk to Mylene about this.

!!!''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''
* ''Fanfic/ADiplomaticVisit'': In chapter 11 of the sequel ''Diplomat at Large'', when Sonata Dusk realizes that Adagio had [[spoiler:used her magic to influence them]] and wonders why, Aria admits that "The ditz has a point." before reminding Adagio that sirens have their own rules, one of which is that they ''never'' [[spoiler:use their powers on one another]].
* ''Fanfic/TriptychContinuum'': In "[[Recap/TriptychContinuumNakedLunch Naked Lunch]]", although Gerald's ways of expressing it really are stupid in practice, he does have a legitimate point. Individuals with specific dietary needs -- herbivores in Protocera, carnivores and owners of carnivorous pets in Equestria, omnivores in both countries -- should not have to feel ashamed of themselves for the things they eat, should certainly not have to resort to buying animal food to feed themselves, and should be given the right to openly acquire the things they need.

!!!''Franchise/{{Naruto}}''
* ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3875948/1/Be-A-Realist Be a Realist]]'': Naruto doesn't want to know who his parents are. Simply, he prefers the idea that they loved him and wanted to take care of him but died for some reason. The idea that they were alive and abandoned him is simply too depressing. Sasuke finds it stupid that Naruto would not want to know where he came from, and Sai suggests that knowing his parents might also help him know what he could inherit from them, but Kakashi knows that Naruto is actually right.
-->'''Kakashi:''' [[LampshadeHanging For an ignorant dream, it was rather accurate]].

!!!''Franchise/OnePiece''



* The plot of ''[[Fanfic/CONSEQUENCESMiraculousLadybug CUTTING THE STRINGS]]'' occurs because [[DumbJock Kim]] figures out that Lila is lying about getting a torn ankle muscle but getting back up to help Ladybug, as he knows that it would be impossible to move with such an injury. {{Justified|Trope}} as he had gone through the same injury very recently, so he had the experience to disprove her claim.
* ''Fanfic/GrowthThroughChaos'': Luffy isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he can be surprisingly insightful, wanting Manga/{{Naruto}} and the other ninja because of their ability to WalkOnWater. Even Zoro admits that while Luffy may not have that many good ideas, the few he has haven't been wrong thus far.
* ''Fanfic/TopOfTheLineEditorBug'': Purple doesn't take the SIR Unit tournament as seriously as Red does, pointing out that the whole thing is just something they put together at random for their entertainment.

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* ''Fanfic/ThisBites'': While Luffy has gotten smarter thanks to Cross's influence, it's not enough for a DumbassNoMore. Still, he has a few moments of insight.
** Upon hearing that [[spoiler:[[SparedByAdaptation Merry]] can never return to her ship form without tearing herself apart]], Luffy comments that it doesn't matter, saying that the important thing is that [[spoiler:Merry is still alive and can continue traveling with the Straw Hats]]. Everyone is dumbstruck by how much sense he made.
** During Strong World, he's the first one to figure out that the mutated animals [[BatmanGambit have been playing them]]. How?
The plot of ''[[Fanfic/CONSEQUENCESMiraculousLadybug CUTTING THE STRINGS]]'' occurs because [[DumbJock Kim]] forest was too quiet, and he realized that wouldn't be the case unless the animals within were preparing for something. After listening to Cross and Boss's discussion over the plants and their chemical properties, he starts connecting the dots, and the other two finish it for him.
** There's also the part where he
figures out that Lila Shiki is lying about getting a torn ankle muscle but getting back up to help Ladybug, as he knows evil:
--->'''Shiki''': I find myself curious, Straw Hat!...You somehow suspected me when you had no right to! How did
that it would be impossible to move with such an injury. {{Justified|Trope}} as happen?\\
'''Luffy''': I remembered you from Shanks' stories! And
he had gone through said that you were the same injury very recently, so most evil, hateful bastard of a tyrant that he had ever met!\\
'''Shiki''': Sticks and stones, my boy! The words of none will ever hurt me! Not yours, not your third mate's, and certainly not that Red-Haired brat's either! JIHAHAHA!
** In chapter 60, Tashigi mentions to
the experience to disprove her claim.
* ''Fanfic/GrowthThroughChaos'': Luffy isn't
Straw Hats that the sharpest knife in Marines were having a hard time rounding up the drawer, but he can be surprisingly insightful, wanting Manga/{{Naruto}} and remains of the other ninja [[spoiler:Golden Lion Pirates]] because of ''someone'' burned Enies Lobby to the ground. Luffy points out that the Marines did that themselves with their ability to WalkOnWater. Buster Call. Even Zoro admits if he was right, that while Luffy may not have that many good ideas, the few he has haven't been wrong thus far.
* ''Fanfic/TopOfTheLineEditorBug'': Purple
doesn't take stop Tashigi from giving him a DopeSlap.
** When
the SIR Unit tournament as seriously as Red does, pointing blockade of Sabaody Archipelago puts Cross's newest plan in jeopardy, Luffy's the one to point out that if they waste too much time trying to break through it, an ''Admiral'' will definitely arrive there to destroy them.

!!!''Franchise/{{Persona}}''
* ''Fanfic/RigTheGameRoyal'': Ryuji, in Chapter 26, responds to the concerns about how it could be suspicious that victims of Kamoshida and Madarame were meeting up. He suggests that they tell the truth: Yusuke asked Rem and Ann to become models for them and they became friends along the way. Not
the whole thing is just something they put together at random for their entertainment.truth, of course, but still the truth.



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* ''WesternAnimation/Shrek2'': Donkey is quick to lampshade King Harold's hypocrisy regarding his disapproval of Shrek marrying Fiona despite being a frog who married a [[InterspeciesRomance human]] woman. While Shrek admonishes him for it, Harold doesn't hesitate to admit Donkey is right.

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** In the episode "Stick Hockey", Rigby points out that Benson does have a responsibility to trust his workers, instead of assuming they'll slack off. Then again, it's the one of the few instances where Mordecai and Rigby actually keep up their end of the bargain.

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** In the episode "Stick Hockey", Rigby points out that Benson does have a responsibility to trust his workers, instead of assuming they'll slack off. He could've at least waited to see if they hadn't completed their assignment before getting rid of the stick hockey table. Then again, it's the one of the few instances where Mordecai and Rigby actually keep up their end of the bargain.


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** In "Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie," Homer is surprisingly the one person aside from June Bellamy who actually makes an effort during Poochie's conception. He calls off an obnoxious fan by asking why a supposed genius would obsess over a child's cartoon and bluntly asks another what they're even talking about after getting an asinine question about a CD-ROM game. Later, after Poochie's disastrous debut, he tries to figure out ways to salvage the character (his ideas are ridiculous, but still an improvement over Poochie's overall flatness). When he learns they're gonna kill Poochie off, Homer argues he could still be a good character if the creative team actually gave a shit. Unfortunately, they kill Poochie off anyway and get a court order swearing he won't be back.
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** In "TOW The Cuffs", an encyclopedia salesman spends a lot of time trying to sell Joey a set, before ending that'll cost Joey "only $1,200". Joey is baffled the salesman thinks he's got that kind of money, considering he's home in the middle of the day in an apartment adorned with used lawn furniture.
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* Happens occasionally on ''Series/{{Friends}}'', usually with respect to [[BookDumb Joey]]. For example, when discussing Rachel's inappropriate crush on her assistant:
-->'''Joey:''' The big question is, does he like you? Because if he doesn't like you this is all a [[{{Malaproper}} moo point]].\\

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* Happens occasionally on ''Series/{{Friends}}'', usually with respect to [[BookDumb Joey]]. For example, when Joey]].
** In [[Recap/FriendsS5E4TheOneWherePhoebeHatesPBS "The One Where Phoebe Hates PBS"]], he remembers that honeybees die after they sting something. Also his dissertation about good deeds being inherently selfish.
** When
discussing Rachel's inappropriate crush on her assistant:
-->'''Joey:''' --->'''Joey:''' The big question is, does he like you? Because if he doesn't like you this is all a [[{{Malaproper}} moo point]].\\
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* ''Series/PowerRangersRPM'', as part of the season's rampant LampshadeHanging on every ''PR'' standby (the [[StuffBlowingUp random explosions]], [[ByThePowerOfGrayskull shouting phrases before the morph]], etc.), has [[DumbMuscle General Crunch]] ask Venjix in one episode if they're going to [[MakeMyMonsterGrow supersize]] their MonsterOfTheWeek immediately, "[[GenreSavvy or wait until the Rangers defeat it first?]]" Venjix blasts him into a scrapheap for that question, and then blasts Crunch ''again'' when the latter wonders why they aren't sending in all their drones now that they have Corinth's shields down. (Notably, Crunch actually ''learns'' from this; a later episode has him left in charge when everyone else is busy, and once his attack bot makes into Corinth, he ''immediately'' makes it grow.)
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*** Earlier, Billy scoffed at Jack's plan to cut Grim's head off by pointing out Grim's skull is already removable since he's a skeleton. Subverted when Jack reveals that heads cut off with Grim's scythe ''stay'' cut off forever.
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** Also from that case, Phoenix is worried about having his childhood friend Larry Butz testify, since Larry's stupidity could make things worse for Edgeworth. Maya, a rather childish 17-year-old who can't contribute much apart from her somewhat unreliable attempts at channeling her sister, points out that since Edgeworth had just been convicted, things can't get any worse. Phoenix agrees and decides Larry should take the stand.

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** Also from that case, Phoenix is worried about having his childhood friend Larry Butz testify, since Larry's stupidity could make things worse for Edgeworth. Maya, a rather childish 17-year-old who can't contribute much apart from her somewhat unreliable attempts at channeling her sister, points out that since Edgeworth had just been convicted, things can't get any worse. Phoenix agrees and decides Larry should take the stand. At the climax of the case, she's also the one that points out that [[spoiler: von Karma took a months-long vacation after Gregory Edgeworth got shot, pinning him as the lead suspect.]]
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--->'''[[TalkingAnimal Berthold]]''' My God. That... That could ''actually'' work. Are you alright, Liquid ?

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* In ''Metaverse'', Sirius tries to buy the ''Daily Prophet'' in order to stop it from slandering Harry and himself, only to be turned down. His wife Helga, who used to be [[ItMakesSenseInContext a house elf]], suggests that if he can't buy the paper, then he should buy their ''paper''. (I.e., their future supply of printing paper.)
* Naruto in ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3875948/1/Be-A-Realist Be a Realist]]'' doesn't want to know who his parents are. Simply, he prefers the idea that they loved him and wanted to take care of him but died for some reason. The idea that they were alive and abandoned him is simply too depressing. Sasuke finds it stupid that Naruto would not want to know where he came from, and Sai suggests that knowing his parents might also help him know what he could inherit from them, but Kakashi knows that Naruto is actually right.

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* In ''Metaverse'', ''Metaverse'': Sirius tries to buy the ''Daily Prophet'' in order to stop it from slandering Harry and himself, only to be turned down. His wife Helga, who used to be [[ItMakesSenseInContext a house elf]], suggests that if he can't buy the paper, then he should buy their ''paper''. (I.e., their future supply of printing paper.)
* Naruto ''Fanfic/TriptychContinuum'': In "[[Recap/TriptychContinuumNakedLunch Naked Lunch]]", although Gerald's ways of expressing it really are stupid in practice, he does have a legitimate point. Individuals with specific dietary needs -- herbivores in Protocera, carnivores and owners of carnivorous pets in Equestria, omnivores in both countries -- should not have to feel ashamed of themselves for the things they eat, should certainly not have to resort to buying animal food to feed themselves, and should be given the right to openly acquire the things they need.
*
''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3875948/1/Be-A-Realist Be a Realist]]'' Realist]]'': Naruto doesn't want to know who his parents are. Simply, he prefers the idea that they loved him and wanted to take care of him but died for some reason. The idea that they were alive and abandoned him is simply too depressing. Sasuke finds it stupid that Naruto would not want to know where he came from, and Sai suggests that knowing his parents might also help him know what he could inherit from them, but Kakashi knows that Naruto is actually right.
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*** In "Cloud, Cloud, Go Away", Pooh points out that the cloud was only doing what clouds do when it blocked the sun after Tigger complains that said cloud started its conflict with him.
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*** In that same episode, Patrick proposes they wash the paint off. [=SpongeBob=] points out Mr. Krabs said the paint doesn't come off, Patrick says to forgot that as every paint comes off with something. [[spoiler: Turns out Mr. Krabs lied and the paint actually comes off with saliva.]]

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*** In that same episode, Patrick proposes they wash the paint off. [=SpongeBob=] points out Mr. Krabs said the paint doesn't come off, Patrick says to forgot forget that as every paint comes off with something. [[spoiler: Turns out Mr. Krabs lied and the paint actually comes off with saliva.]]
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* ''Series/CanadasWorstHandyman'': In a season 4 episode after a particularly EpicFail goes up to eleven, Johnnie makes it abundantly clear that dealing with five bad handymen meant it was sheer delusion to not expect there to be shitloads of mistakes and failures.
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* In the ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''/''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable'' {{Crossover}} ''Fanfic/RemnantsBizarreAdventure'', Okuyasu's CatchPhrase is "I'm not very smart." That being said, he was the first person to point out to Weiss Schnee that [[PoorCommunicationKills she should just talk to Blake]] over what happened at the end of RWBY Volume 1. [[spoiler:At the end of the ''Lock and Key'' arc, Weiss outright acknowledged that Okuyasu was right, and the fight against Tamami Kobayashi would have gone much more smoothly if she and Blake had talked things out beforehand.]]

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* In the ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''/''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable'' {{Crossover}} ''Fanfic/RemnantsBizarreAdventure'', Okuyasu's CatchPhrase catchphrase is "I'm not very smart." That being said, he was the first person to point out to Weiss Schnee that [[PoorCommunicationKills she should just talk to Blake]] over what happened at the end of RWBY Volume 1. [[spoiler:At the end of the ''Lock and Key'' arc, Weiss outright acknowledged that Okuyasu was right, and the fight against Tamami Kobayashi would have gone much more smoothly if she and Blake had talked things out beforehand.]]
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'''Bart:''' C'mon Lisa, it's Ralph.\\

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'''Bart:''' C'mon Lisa, [[ThrowTheDogABone it's Ralph.Ralph]].\\



** "Treehouse of Horror X's" second segment has Bart and Lisa be given superpowers as Stretch Dude and Clobber Girl. When the two go off to save Lucy Lawless, Marge shouts out the window for them to remember they're vulnerable to kryptonite. Homer immediately blasts Marge for such a stupid move.

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** "Treehouse of Horror X's" second segment "Desperately Xeeking Xena" has Bart and Lisa be given superpowers as Stretch Dude and Clobber Girl. When the two go off to save Lucy Lawless, Creator/LucyLawless, Marge shouts out the window for them to remember they're vulnerable to kryptonite. Homer immediately blasts Marge for such a stupid move.
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* ''Radio/CabinPressure:'' Arthur, normally a ditz of the highest (or possibly lowest) order, occasionally manages to make a sensible suggestion. In "Douz", his suggestion of solving the problem everyone's facing by just driving the plane to the next nearest airport is immediately shot down by Martin, until Douglas points out that it actually is a workable idea for once.

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