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10th Sep '16 10:02:48 PM WillBGood
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* Schneizel has aspects of this in ''Anime/CodeGeass'': [[spoiler: after Lelouch erases Charles, Marianne and their Thought Elevator from existence, his scheming, plotting brother becomes the biggest threat to his plans to establish a peaceful world - and, in fact, the entire world itself, thanks to the stockpile of FLEIJA warheads he's installed aboard his flying fortress.]] Not ''entirely'' played straight, though, as Schneizel is arguably a far greater direct threat to Lelouch's plans than Charles is even ''before'' their confrontation. Especially considering that Schneizel [[spoiler:was planning to have the Emperor assassinated]] and Lelouch just got to him first. Considering the old man had nothing going for him other than his bizarre [[spoiler:{{Instrumentality}}]] scheme, it's no wonder that both Schneizel and Lelouch saw offing the old man as a big step forward.

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* Schneizel has aspects of this in ''Anime/CodeGeass'': [[spoiler: after Lelouch erases Charles, Marianne and their Thought Elevator from existence, his scheming, plotting brother becomes the biggest threat to his plans to establish a peaceful world - and, in fact, the entire world itself, thanks to the stockpile of FLEIJA warheads he's installed aboard his flying fortress.]] Not ''entirely'' played straight, though, as Schneizel is arguably a far greater direct threat to Lelouch's plans than Charles is even ''before'' their confrontation. Especially considering that Schneizel [[spoiler:was planning to have the Emperor assassinated]] and Lelouch just got to him first. Considering the old man had nothing going for him other than his bizarre [[spoiler:{{Instrumentality}}]] scheme, [[spoiler:AssimilationPlot]], it's no wonder that both Schneizel and Lelouch saw offing the old man as a big step forward.
19th Jul '16 5:50:23 AM Shadowgazer
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Compare and contrast DragonTheirFeet, DragonWithAnAgenda, TheStarscream, and BastardUnderstudy. TakeUpMySword is the heroic equivalent. Sometimes overlaps with AsLongAsThereIsEvil. While they are very similar, there's a crucial difference between this trope and being The Starscream: the Dragon was not directly involved with the Big Bad's downfall. There are many a [[Starscream]] who will become this if they outlive the BigBad, but most examples of this trope were not obsessed with becoming the BigBad in the first place, they merely [[(OpportunisticBastard and opportunistically)]] took the role because it was offered to them by fortune on a silver platter. They just get as much as they can so to say. There is a grey area with this, as sometimes the Dragon "drags his feet" or has his own agenda, but so long as he displays at least nominal allegiance to the core leadership, he's not the Starscream. The opposite of this trope is DemotedToDragon, where a character who was previously BigBad in their own right becomes TheDragon to a new BigBad.

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Compare and contrast DragonTheirFeet, DragonWithAnAgenda, TheStarscream, and BastardUnderstudy. TakeUpMySword is the heroic equivalent. Sometimes overlaps with AsLongAsThereIsEvil. While they are very similar, there's a crucial difference between this trope and being The Starscream: the Dragon was not directly involved with the Big Bad's downfall. There are many a [[Starscream]] Starscream who will become this if they outlive the BigBad, but most examples of this trope were not obsessed with becoming the BigBad in the first place, they merely [[(OpportunisticBastard [[OpportunisticBastard and opportunistically)]] opportunistically]] took the role because it was offered to them by fortune on a silver platter. They just get as much as they can so to say. There is a grey area with this, as sometimes the Dragon "drags his feet" or has his own agenda, but so long as he displays at least nominal allegiance to the core leadership, he's not the Starscream. The opposite of this trope is DemotedToDragon, where a character who was previously BigBad in their own right becomes TheDragon to a new BigBad.
19th Jul '16 5:49:53 AM Shadowgazer
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Compare and contrast DragonTheirFeet, DragonWithAnAgenda, TheStarscream, and BastardUnderstudy. TakeUpMySword is the heroic equivalent. Sometimes overlaps with AsLongAsThereIsEvil. While they are very similar, there's a crucial difference between this trope and being The Starscream: the Dragon was not directly involved with the Big Bad's downfall. There are many [[Starscream Starscreams]] who will become this if they outlive the BigBad, but most examples of this trope were not obsessed with becoming the BigBad in the first place, they merely [[(OpportunisticBastard and opportunistically)]] took the role because it was offered to them by fortune on a silver platter. They just get as much as they can so to say. There is a grey area with this, as sometimes the Dragon "drags his feet" or has his own agenda, but so long as he displays at least nominal allegiance to the core leadership, he's not the Starscream. The opposite of this trope is DemotedToDragon, where a character who was previously BigBad in their own right becomes TheDragon to a new BigBad.

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Compare and contrast DragonTheirFeet, DragonWithAnAgenda, TheStarscream, and BastardUnderstudy. TakeUpMySword is the heroic equivalent. Sometimes overlaps with AsLongAsThereIsEvil. While they are very similar, there's a crucial difference between this trope and being The Starscream: the Dragon was not directly involved with the Big Bad's downfall. There are many [[Starscream Starscreams]] a [[Starscream]] who will become this if they outlive the BigBad, but most examples of this trope were not obsessed with becoming the BigBad in the first place, they merely [[(OpportunisticBastard and opportunistically)]] took the role because it was offered to them by fortune on a silver platter. They just get as much as they can so to say. There is a grey area with this, as sometimes the Dragon "drags his feet" or has his own agenda, but so long as he displays at least nominal allegiance to the core leadership, he's not the Starscream. The opposite of this trope is DemotedToDragon, where a character who was previously BigBad in their own right becomes TheDragon to a new BigBad.
19th Jul '16 5:41:08 AM Shadowgazer
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Compare and contrast DragonTheirFeet, DragonWithAnAgenda, TheStarscream, and BastardUnderstudy. TakeUpMySword is the heroic equivalent. Sometimes overlaps with AsLongAsThereIsEvil. While they are very similar, there's a crucial difference between this trope and being The Starscream: the Dragon was not directly involved with the Big Bad's downfall. There is a grey area with this, as sometimes the Dragon "drags his feet" or has his own agenda, but so long as he displays at least nominal allegiance to the core leadership, he's not the Starscream. The opposite of this trope is DemotedToDragon, where a character who was previously BigBad in their own right becomes TheDragon to a new BigBad.

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Compare and contrast DragonTheirFeet, DragonWithAnAgenda, TheStarscream, and BastardUnderstudy. TakeUpMySword is the heroic equivalent. Sometimes overlaps with AsLongAsThereIsEvil. While they are very similar, there's a crucial difference between this trope and being The Starscream: the Dragon was not directly involved with the Big Bad's downfall. There are many [[Starscream Starscreams]] who will become this if they outlive the BigBad, but most examples of this trope were not obsessed with becoming the BigBad in the first place, they merely [[(OpportunisticBastard and opportunistically)]] took the role because it was offered to them by fortune on a silver platter. They just get as much as they can so to say. There is a grey area with this, as sometimes the Dragon "drags his feet" or has his own agenda, but so long as he displays at least nominal allegiance to the core leadership, he's not the Starscream. The opposite of this trope is DemotedToDragon, where a character who was previously BigBad in their own right becomes TheDragon to a new BigBad.
16th Jul '16 9:05:08 PM Arutema
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyAdventure'': Dark Lord is defeated, and the [[MacGuffin mana pendant]] recovered from his body. Except it's a fake. Dark Lord's archmage Julius has the real one, and has brainwashed the heroine who can unlock it's powers.
10th Jul '16 8:43:39 PM HamburgerTime
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** Later, as a result of [[spoiler: Rufus' apparent death and Professor Hojo's defection to Sephiroth's faction]], Shinra board members [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Scarlet and Heidegger]] attempt to do this, [[TheCoup staging a hostile takeover of the company]], placing Reeve, the sole [[HonestCorporateExecutive honest]] member of the board, under arrest, and taking the field personally in a [[HumongousMecha giant robot]] with the intent to wipe out all the opposing factions. [[spoiler: They don't even get out of the city before they're offhandedly killed by the heroes, because the robot wasn't nearly as strong as they thought it was]].
30th Jun '16 9:40:54 AM Pichu-kun
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* Grimer from ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' is loyal to his master until the very end, but when he realises that Robotnik is insane and unfit to serve, he quits and retreats to the shadows. [[spoiler:In SonicTheComicOnline, he chessmasters his way into discrediting Sonic, leaving Mobius to the mob, and starting a destructive chain reaction of volcanoes before escaping to another universe. He appears near the end to gloat to Sonic as a hologram.]]

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* Grimer from ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'' is loyal to his master until the very end, but when he realises that Robotnik is insane and unfit to serve, he quits and retreats to the shadows. [[spoiler:In SonicTheComicOnline, ''Webcomic/SonicTheComicOnline'', he chessmasters his way into discrediting Sonic, leaving Mobius to the mob, and starting a destructive chain reaction of volcanoes before escaping to another universe. He appears near the end to gloat to Sonic as a hologram.]]



* ''Franchise/GreenLantern'': After Sinestro [[spoiler: [[HeelFaceTurn Heel Face Turned]] and rejoined the Green Lanterns]], his Dragon Arkillo took control of the Sinestro Corps.

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After Sinestro [[spoiler: [[HeelFaceTurn Heel Face Turned]] and rejoined the Green Lanterns]], his Dragon Arkillo took control of the Sinestro Corps.
20th Jun '16 5:36:19 AM ChronoLegion
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* In ''Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday'', a prequel to the [[Film/{{Transformers}} 2007 film]], Starscream takes over as the leader of the Decepticons after Megatron's disappearance. After the Cybertronians encounter the ''Ghost-1'' in 1969, Starscream rightly determines that the technology of the primitive human spacecraft is too similar to Cybertronian tech to be a coincidence (even though, to his subordinates, he insists that it's a natural evolution of all technology in the universe), which must indicate that Megatron is on Earth. Unwilling to relinquish his position, he does everything possible to delay the discovery of Earth by his kin, [[spoiler:including destroying the ''Ghost-1'' and her crew in order to deny the same opportunity to the Autobots]]. While he obviously fails in the long term, it does take another four decades for them to find Earth. Note that the sequel films pretty much render this storyline non-canon.
20th Jun '16 5:21:53 AM ChronoLegion
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* While he served as [[TheManBehindTheMan The Fallen's]] lackey throught the film ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'', [[BigBad Megatron]] actually went back to being the leader of the Decepticons in ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon''. Only for as long as it took [[spoiler:Sentinel Prime to reveal his true colors]], at which point he becomes [[spoiler:Sentinel]]'s bitch. At the end, he decides to take back the position of leadership, which [[spoiler:gives Optimus the opening to kill both villains]].

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* While he served as [[TheManBehindTheMan The Fallen's]] lackey throught the film ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'', [[BigBad Megatron]] actually went back to being the leader of the Decepticons in ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon''. Only for as long as it took [[spoiler:Sentinel Prime to reveal his true colors]], at which point he becomes [[spoiler:Sentinel]]'s bitch. At the end, he decides to take back the position of leadership, which [[spoiler:gives Optimus the opening to kill both villains]]. [[spoiler:Megatron returns as Galvatron in ''Film/TransformersAgeOfExtinction'']].
19th Jun '16 3:35:38 PM Ramidel
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* Dalton from ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' [[DragonTheirFeet wasn't present at the climactic scene in the Ocean Palace]] (to be specific, [[DirtyCoward he ran for it one battle earlier]]). Accordingly, after Zeal's destruction, he's the highest-ranking Enlightened One left, and remains in full control of his powers, so it's no surprise that he asserts his authority over the survivors of 12,000BC.
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