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3rd Mar '16 12:41:07 AM jormis29
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* The ''VideoGame/Condemned'' series: The [[VideoGame/CondemnedCriminalOrigins original game]] suggested that a supernatural force was causing the outbreak of violence, and the main character's own apparent insanity. The [[VideoGame/Condemned2Bloodshot sequel]] revealed that [[spoiler:it was a cult which was using sonic technology to drive people mad by causing hemorrhaging in the brain.]] However, this particular killed wizard is replaced by [[VoodooShark a much larger, much stupider one]], so to speak - in particular, [[spoiler:'''''every single named character in the game''''' except Rosa and ''maybe'' Pierce is involved with them in some way. Even ''the President'' is [[GovernmentConspiracy revealed to be one of them]] in the ending. Hell, even '''the protagonist''' is secretly involved with them, as he turns out to be "the Remedy" who can naturally do their (not-)magical-sound thing to [[YourHeadAsplode blow people's heads up with his voice]].]]

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* The ''VideoGame/Condemned'' ''VideoGame/{{Condemned}}'' series: The [[VideoGame/CondemnedCriminalOrigins original game]] suggested that a supernatural force was causing the outbreak of violence, and the main character's own apparent insanity. The [[VideoGame/Condemned2Bloodshot sequel]] revealed that [[spoiler:it was a cult which was using sonic technology to drive people mad by causing hemorrhaging in the brain.]] However, this particular killed wizard is replaced by [[VoodooShark a much larger, much stupider one]], so to speak - in particular, [[spoiler:'''''every single named character in the game''''' except Rosa and ''maybe'' Pierce is involved with them in some way. Even ''the President'' is [[GovernmentConspiracy revealed to be one of them]] in the ending. Hell, even '''the protagonist''' is secretly involved with them, as he turns out to be "the Remedy" who can naturally do their (not-)magical-sound thing to [[YourHeadAsplode blow people's heads up with his voice]].]]
2nd Mar '16 5:23:28 AM erforce
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* The ''VideoGame/{{Condemned}}'' series: The original game suggested that a supernatural force was causing the outbreak of violence, and the main character's own apparent insanity. The sequel revealed that [[spoiler:it was a cult which was using sonic technology to drive people mad by causing hemorrhaging in the brain.]] However, this particular killed wizard is replaced by [[VoodooShark a much larger, much stupider one]], so to speak - in particular, [[spoiler:'''''every single named character in the game''''' except Rosa and ''maybe'' Pierce is involved with them in some way. Even ''the President'' is [[GovernmentConspiracy revealed to be one of them]] in the ending. Hell, even '''the protagonist''' is secretly involved with them, as he turns out to be "the Remedy" who can naturally do their (not-)magical-sound thing to [[YourHeadAsplode blow people's heads up with his voice]].]]

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Condemned}}'' ''VideoGame/Condemned'' series: The [[VideoGame/CondemnedCriminalOrigins original game game]] suggested that a supernatural force was causing the outbreak of violence, and the main character's own apparent insanity. The sequel [[VideoGame/Condemned2Bloodshot sequel]] revealed that [[spoiler:it was a cult which was using sonic technology to drive people mad by causing hemorrhaging in the brain.]] However, this particular killed wizard is replaced by [[VoodooShark a much larger, much stupider one]], so to speak - in particular, [[spoiler:'''''every single named character in the game''''' except Rosa and ''maybe'' Pierce is involved with them in some way. Even ''the President'' is [[GovernmentConspiracy revealed to be one of them]] in the ending. Hell, even '''the protagonist''' is secretly involved with them, as he turns out to be "the Remedy" who can naturally do their (not-)magical-sound thing to [[YourHeadAsplode blow people's heads up with his voice]].]]



* TheStinger at the original ending of ''InfinityBlade'' [[spoiler:in which the Warrior activates the God King's iPhone and brings up a holographic display of Earth]] and the bonus content [[spoiler:in which the Warrior faces a clone of his Ancestor that is piloting a MiniMecha in the God King's cloning facility]] reveal that the setting is science fiction and not fantasy.

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* TheStinger at the original ending of ''InfinityBlade'' ''VideoGame/InfinityBlade'' [[spoiler:in which the Warrior activates the God King's iPhone and brings up a holographic display of Earth]] and the bonus content [[spoiler:in which the Warrior faces a clone of his Ancestor that is piloting a MiniMecha in the God King's cloning facility]] reveal that the setting is science fiction and not fantasy.
25th Feb '16 2:03:11 PM Dvandemon
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* In [[WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution X-Men Evolution]] the Juggernaut got his powers through mysticism like the comics, except it turns out the Gem of Cytorrak he used in them actually emits a form of radiation that activates and amplifies mutant powers.
22nd Feb '16 6:38:43 AM DarkStorm
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** Similarly, in the Federation campaign, there's an adventure that has you fighting ghosts in a spooky basement. Turns out the ghosts are just [[spoiler:aliens who are only partially phased into this reality, plus one malfunctioning hologram.]] They're still dangerous, just not supernatural.
19th Feb '16 6:42:39 AM JcDent
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***Latest Warhammer 40,000 rulebooks adress this by stating that it's the other way around: you might want to call them psychic powers, but it's all actually Warp sorcery.
14th Feb '16 3:58:08 PM MsChibi
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* Some cryptozoologists have been known to come up with more natural explanations for the creatures they're seeking. The Thunderbird, for example, is often thought of as simply a large, undiscovered bird of prey, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teratornithidae or an extinct one]], rather than a titanic, lightning-shooting weather spirit.

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* Some cryptozoologists have been known to come up with more natural explanations for the creatures they're seeking. The Thunderbird, for example, is often thought of as simply a large, undiscovered bird of prey, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teratornithidae or an extinct one]], or a case of people overestimating the size of mundane birds like turkey vultures, rather than a titanic, lightning-shooting weather spirit.
8th Feb '16 8:05:03 AM JamesAustin
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** Perhaps the most explicit example is in the Thor movies. In the first ''Film/{{Thor}}'', the source of Asgardians' abilities is left mostly to the imagination. The Asgardians themselves refer to them in terms usually associated with magic and claim to fail to see the difference between magic and science when asked by the human protagonist. By ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'', Asgardian equipment is more obviously technological (e.g. the rather pedestrian shield generator for the main palace), Odin states outright Asgardians are regular mortals (with Loki putting their lifespan at some 5,000 years, thus making it possible for the Asgardian characters to be present on Earth in the Dark Ages), Thor pilots an obviously technological Dark Elf ship with familiar ease, etc.
*** Perhaps the most direct example is when Jane Foster asks an Asgardian physician whether the device they're using to scan her (for the presence of the Aether, a parasitic MacGuffin), which the Asgardians call a "soul forge", is a "quantum field generator" (itself technobabble, but of the "plausible" kind). The Asgardian fails to answer, but does confirm that the device "transfers molecular energy from one place to another", which apparently, according to Foster, is what a quantum field generator does. This is as close as the MCU comes to saying that all Asgardian abilities are either natural (such as their lifespan and their mooks' physical strength), or technological.

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** Perhaps the most explicit example is in the Thor movies. In the first ''Film/{{Thor}}'', the source of Asgardians' abilities is left mostly to the imagination. The Asgardians themselves refer to them in terms usually associated with magic and claim to fail to see the difference between magic and science when asked by the human protagonist. By ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'', Asgardian equipment is more obviously technological (e.g. the rather pedestrian shield generator for the main palace), Odin states outright Asgardians are regular mortals (with Loki putting their lifespan at some 5,000 years, thus making it possible for the Asgardian characters to be present on Earth in the Dark Ages), Thor pilots an obviously technological Dark Elf ship with familiar ease, etc.
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etc. Perhaps the most direct example is when Jane Foster asks an Asgardian physician whether the device they're using to scan her (for the presence of the Aether, a parasitic MacGuffin), which the Asgardians call a "soul forge", is a "quantum field generator" (itself technobabble, but of the "plausible" kind). The Asgardian fails to answer, but does confirm that the device "transfers molecular energy from one place to another", which apparently, according to Foster, is what a quantum field generator does. This is as close as the MCU comes to saying that all Asgardian abilities are either natural (such as their lifespan and their mooks' physical strength), or technological.



** There is, however, a ''Film/{{Doctor Strange|2016}}'' movie announced, and producer Kevin Feige has stated that Strange's "magical" powers will not be due to genetic mutation, use of conventional technology, etc., leaving the possibility open that a major character with less-than-scientific powers will yet grace this fictional universe.
7th Feb '16 9:04:12 PM grapesandmilk
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* Some cryptozoologists have been known to come up with more natural explanations for the creatures they're seeking. The Thunderbird, for example, is often thought of as simply a large, undiscovered bird of prey, rather than a titanic, lightning-shooting weather spirit.

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* Some cryptozoologists have been known to come up with more natural explanations for the creatures they're seeking. The Thunderbird, for example, is often thought of as simply a large, undiscovered bird of prey, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teratornithidae or an extinct one]], rather than a titanic, lightning-shooting weather spirit.
22nd Jan '16 12:45:52 AM Milarqui
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* In a ''Series/HoneyIShrunkTheKids'' chapter, a "leprechaun" appears and starts doing several tricks, which Wayne easily explains off as things easily done with some chemicals and sleight of hand, much to Nick's regret (because he really believed it was a leprechaun). [[spoiler:Then a bunch of leprechauns appear for real. And these cannot be explained.]]
9th Jan '16 11:35:47 PM rwe1138
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* General comic book example: when DC jump-started UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} by reinventing a number of their once-popular characters, they tended to replace mystical origin stories with scientific ones. For instance, the new Franchise/GreenLantern got his powers from being a {{space police}}man with an advanced technological weapon, rather than finding a magical lantern. This is probably largely because of the influence of Editor in Chief Julius Schwartz, who was also major editor in the field of prose science fiction.

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* General comic book example: when DC jump-started UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} by reinventing a number of their once-popular characters, they tended to replace mystical origin stories with scientific ones. For instance, the new Franchise/GreenLantern got his powers from being a {{space police}}man with an advanced technological weapon, rather than finding a magical lantern. This is probably largely because of the influence of Editor in Chief Julius Schwartz, who was also a major editor in the field of prose science fiction.
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