History Main / DeterminedDefeatist

* MaxPayne goes through the entire first game knowing perfectly well that there are only two outcomes for him: either being killed during his RoaringRampageOfRevenge or being put away for life upon completing it. In fact, after he goes free thanks to TheMan pulling a few strings, he considers himself to be a KarmaHoudini.

* One of the few good qualities WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaCritic has is that despite all the hurt he goes through, he's strong-willed and keeps on going.

* Javik in ''MassEffect3'' believes that Shepard's cycle is doomed for failure. However giving up is not an option for him, especially after his race sacrificed themselves just to get him to this point.

* One of the few good qualities WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaCritic has is that despite all the hurt he goes through, he's strong-willed and keeps on going.

* One of the few good qualities TheNostalgiaCritic has is that despite all the hurt he goes through, he's strong-willed and keeps on going.

Also compare CowardlyLion and TheAntiNihilist.

Also compare CowardlyLion and IronWoobie.

* Touma from ACertainMagicalIndex has terminal bad luck and a negative outlook, but will fight until the end for anyone he cares about.

* Most of the main characters (especially Frodo) in the later parts of TheLordOfTheRings. Several people get speechs to the effect of "We're pretty much finished at this point, but we're going to carry on because what else can we do?"

* A few WithinTemptation songs have this feel. In "Deceiver Of Fools", the subject knows just how bleak the situation is, yet manages to keep that hint of hope. Then there's "Pale" and "Stand My Ground".
* "Survive" by LacunaCoil.

* Versaemerge's "Fixed At Zero".

* Crowley in ''GoodOmens''. At one point, when Aziraphale has gone missing, the Apocalypse is beginning, and it looks as if there's no hope, Crowley thinks he might as well drink himself into a stupor while he waits for the world to end. Instead, he drives at top speed to Tadfield to avert the Apocalypse, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome holding his burning car together through sheer force of will]].

SuperTrope of SourSupporter, when the defeatist is recruited to the team.

Could be considered a SisterTrope to KnightInSourArmor. The difference between the KnightInSourArmor and the DeterminedDefeatist is that the latter isn't necessarily a snarky AntiHero who lives in a CrapsackWorld; they're more likely to be TheEeyore or TheWoobie. They might [[HeroicSelfDeprecation lack self-esteem]], or be [[BreakTheCutie going through a rough patch]]. But in both cases, you can be sure their dogged perseverance will get them through despite their pessimistic outlook.

* Most of the main characters but especially Frodo in the later parts of TheLordOfTheRings. Several people get speechs to the effect of "We're pretty much finished at this point, but we're going to carry on because what else can we do?"

* Himei from ''SailorNothing''. She's an utterly BrokenBird who knows that AsLongAsThereIsEvil, there'll be Yamiko. Doesn't stop her fighting as many of them as she can.

* A few ''WithinTemptation'' songs have this feel. In "Deceiver Of Fools", the subject knows just how bleak the situation is, yet manages to keep that hint of hope. Then there's "Pale" and "Stand My Ground".
* "Survive" by ''LacunaCoil''.

* Prominent concept in Norse Mythology:

* Touma from ACertainMagicalIndex has terminal bad look and a negative outlook, but will fight until the end for anyone he cares about.

->"If you're falling off a cliff, you might as well try to fly."
-->- John Sheridan, Babylon V