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21st Oct '16 5:21:55 AM Godzillawolf
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'' ends with [[spoiler:Homura]] in this role, with the rare variation in which the designated evil character seems to agree with the others' condemnation. [[spoiler: She knows what she's doing is wrong, but Kyubey had already gotten what he wanted by putting her in the Isolation Field: he confirmed the existence of Madoka, all but guaranteeing that the Incubators would eventually be able to control or circumvent the Law of Cycles. Homura may have been selfish in forcing Madoka into a human form that she could have by her side, but the massive power of that love is what made it possible for her to restructure the universe into one that not only neutralized Kyubey as a threat, but gave all the other girls the happy lives they could never have lived otherwise]].

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'' ends with [[spoiler:Homura]] in this role, with the rare variation in which the designated evil character seems to agree with the others' condemnation. [[spoiler: She knows what she's doing is wrong, but Kyubey had already gotten what he wanted by putting her in the Isolation Field: he confirmed the existence of Madoka, all but guaranteeing that the Incubators would eventually be able to control or circumvent the Law of Cycles. Homura may have been selfish in forcing Madoka into a human form that she could have by her side, but the massive power of that love is what made it possible for her to restructure the universe into one that not only neutralized Kyubey as a threat, but gave all the other girls the happy lives they could never have lived otherwise]].otherwise (though at the cost of taking away their memories and undoing all their development)]].
4th Oct '16 7:04:34 AM NNinja
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* During a sidequest in the original campaign of the 2002 version of ''VideoGame/{{Neverwinter Nights}}'', after most of the escapees have been either killed or allowed to get away, the remaining one, who is wanted for mass murder, kidnaps the daughter of the person who gives out the bounties and holds her for ransom, with an implication that she was raped. When you find him, he attacks, but pleads for his life if he's nearly defeated. When asked why he kidnapped the girl, he initially claims that she came with him by choice. If you decide that he's lying, a high persuasion check can get him to admit that he got her drunk. If after hearing his story you decide to kill him after all, your alignment is shifted a few point towards evil, even though your only other option is letting an unrepentant murderer walk free. It should be noted that if the player chooses the initial option to kill him during the conversation instead of choosing to hear him out, alignment isn't affected.
15th Sep '16 3:54:26 AM Hylarn
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25th Aug '16 7:41:40 AM Sapphirea2
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** In the Series 9 finale "Hell Bent", Ohila chews out the Twelfth Doctor for choosing to punish [[spoiler: Rassilon and the High Council]] for [[spoiler: their actions in the Last Great Time War]] and their recent plot against him that trapped him in a bespoke torture chamber and inadvertently led to [[spoiler: the unjust execution of his innocent companion Clara]]. She outright calls him a DirtyCoward for not just forgiving and forgetting once he gets the upper hand in his situation. However, as the architects of [[spoiler: the Last Great Time War]], and given [[spoiler: Rassilon's]] established personality, apologizing and atoning for their actions may not be something they are capable of. If anything, the Doctor's decision to [[spoiler: exile them to find a new home]] is far, far better than they deserve for their monstrous actions, and certainly no one suggests an actual better way for him to handle this situation. To make matters worse, the later ExpandedUniverse comic book miniseries ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoSupremacyOfTheCybermen'' reveals that [[spoiler: Rassilon]] promptly decides to do a VillainTeamUp with the cyborgs, suggesting the Doctor might have been better off ''just killing the villains'', even though this would have opened him up to more criticism in-universe.
3rd Aug '16 4:28:01 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/{{Daybreakers}}'' gives us the [[spoiler: Mass Execution of the Subsiders via sunlight.]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Subsiders lose their higher brain functions]] and devolve into AlwaysChaoticEvil [[HalfHumanHybrid humanoid bats]] with SuperStrength and flight, and a voracious appitite for fresh blood. [[spoiler:Killing them all]] may not be pretty but it's hardly evil.
** [[spoiler:Killing the Subsiders is presented as the final moral tipping point for Edward's brother. At that point he realizes his choice of allegiance can only end with him becoming a monster like a Subsider. Even though he "was never very good at being human" he chooses to side with humanity and help Edward]]
3rd Aug '16 4:20:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''{{Series/Merlin}}'''s Uther had plenty of legitimate KickTheDog moments, but every now and then he'd turn out to be right. For example in "The Curse of Cornelius Sigan", Camelot is being attacked by a bunch of unkillable Gargoyles. Uther decides to seal off the castle so they can't get in. His son Arthur chastises him for abandoning the people outside, but Uther merely responds there's nothing they can do to help them and that they need to save the people they can right now. Arthur refuses to accept this and rides out to defend the city from the Gargoyles... Except his attack against them was completely ineffective. They were only stopped by Merlin defeating the Warlock responsible for reanimating them, which was both done without Arthur's knowledge and incidental to his own attack. All Arthur accomplished by trying to fight them off was putting himself in danger.

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* ''{{Series/Merlin}}'''s ''{{Series/Merlin 2008}}'': Uther had plenty of legitimate KickTheDog moments, but every now and then he'd turn out to be right. For example in "The Curse of Cornelius Sigan", Camelot is being attacked by a bunch of unkillable Gargoyles. Uther decides to seal off the castle so they can't get in. His son Arthur chastises him for abandoning the people outside, but Uther merely responds there's nothing they can do to help them and that they need to save the people they can right now. Arthur refuses to accept this and rides out to defend the city from the Gargoyles... Except his attack against them was completely ineffective. They were only stopped by Merlin defeating the Warlock responsible for reanimating them, which was both done without Arthur's knowledge and incidental to his own attack. All Arthur accomplished by trying to fight them off was putting himself in danger.
12th Jul '16 10:26:54 PM trixus
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* ComicBook/ThePunisher seems to run into this occasionally, depending on how he's being handled and whether he's in his own book or not. Usually in his own book, he's taking out major drug and arms traffickers, mobsters, and other people that could quite possibly rate the death sentence anyway. Outside of his own book, just to make sure that his war on crime is Designated Evil, some writers actually have him killing ''white-collar embezzlers''.

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* ComicBook/ThePunisher seems to run into this occasionally, depending on how he's being handled and whether he's in his own book or not. Usually in his own book, he's taking out major drug and arms traffickers, mobsters, and other people that could quite possibly rate the death sentence anyway.anyway . Outside of his own book, just to make sure that his war on crime is Designated Evil, some writers actually have him killing ''white-collar embezzlers''. His Garth Ennis runs also doesn't help since while they are memorable he is being ridiculously ultraviolent when it comes to killing his targets that one might forget he usually just shoot criminals in the head.
22nd Jun '16 7:42:38 PM ImpudentInfidel
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*** Wesley actually calls her on all of this, which she dismisses.
12th Jun '16 6:42:05 AM Peridonyx
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* ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' gives us Terra's struggle with his Darkness, which is supposed to be a massive IronicEcho between him and Riku. However, whereas Riku willingly accepted Darkness in the original ''Kingdom Hearts'', Terra actually had it forced upon him [[note]]While he was never Darkness-free, it never actually became a problem until Master Xehanort tampered with it during Terra's Mark of Mastery exam.[[/note]]. Furthermore, while Riku clearly started JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope during the course of the original game, Terra's only known crime -- allegedly stealing Aurora's Heart via the power of Darkness -- was actually the combined fault of Maleficent and Master Xehanort for temporarily invoking BrainwashedAndCrazy on him. Additionally, Riku deliberately attacked Sora and co. out of anger and arrogance, whereas Terra only willingly resorted to Darkness as a self-defensive last resort against Braig, Eraqus, Xehanort, etc. And yet Riku ended up being the much luckier one, being able to start redeeming himself immediately after the original game; Terra, meanwhile, ended up receiving a far longer-lasting FateWorseThanDeath -- which many fans just see as blatant DisproportionateRetribution for events that were never in his control to begin with -- and he's still missing-in-action as of ''Dream Drop Distance''.

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* ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' gives us Terra's struggle with his Darkness, which is supposed to be a massive IronicEcho between him and Riku. However, whereas Riku willingly accepted Darkness in the original ''Kingdom Hearts'', Terra actually had has it forced upon him [[note]]While he was he's never been Darkness-free, it never actually became becomes a problem until Master Xehanort tampered tampers with it during Terra's Mark of Mastery exam.[[/note]]. Furthermore, while Riku clearly started JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope during the course of the original game, Terra's only known crime -- allegedly stealing Aurora's Heart via the power of Darkness -- was is actually the combined fault of Maleficent and Master Xehanort for temporarily invoking BrainwashedAndCrazy on him. Additionally, Riku deliberately attacked Sora and co. out of anger and arrogance, whereas Terra only willingly resorted resorts to Darkness as a self-defensive last resort against Braig, Eraqus, Xehanort, etc. And yet Riku ended up being the much luckier one, being able to start redeeming himself immediately after the original game; Terra, meanwhile, ended ends up receiving a far longer-lasting FateWorseThanDeath -- which many fans just see as blatant DisproportionateRetribution for events that were never in largely out of his control to begin with -- and he's still missing-in-action MIA as of ''Dream Drop Distance''.
9th Jun '16 6:50:18 AM Peridonyx
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* ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' gives us Terra's struggle with his Darkness, which is supposed to be a massive IronicEcho between him and Riku. However, whereas Riku willingly accepted Darkness in the original ''Kingdom Hearts'', Terra actually had it forced upon him [[note]]While he was never Darkness-free, it never actually became a problem until Master Xehanort tampered with it during Terra's Mark of Mastery exam.[[/note]]. Furthermore, while Riku clearly started JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope during the course of the original game, Terra's only known crime -- allegedly stealing Aurora's Heart via the power of Darkness -- was actually the combined fault of Maleficent and Master Xehanort for temporarily invoking BrainwashedAndCrazy on him. Additionally, Riku deliberately attacked Sora and co. out of anger and arrogance, whereas Terra only willingly resorted to Darkness as a self-defensive last resort against Eraqus and then the aforementioned Xehanort. And yet Riku ended up being the luckier one, being able to start redeeming himself immediately after the original game; Terra, meanwhile, ended up receiving a far longer-lasting FateWorseThanDeath -- which many fans see as blatant DisproportionateRetribution for events that were never in his control to begin with -- and he's still missing-in-action as of ''Dream Drop Distance''.

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* ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' gives us Terra's struggle with his Darkness, which is supposed to be a massive IronicEcho between him and Riku. However, whereas Riku willingly accepted Darkness in the original ''Kingdom Hearts'', Terra actually had it forced upon him [[note]]While he was never Darkness-free, it never actually became a problem until Master Xehanort tampered with it during Terra's Mark of Mastery exam.[[/note]]. Furthermore, while Riku clearly started JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope during the course of the original game, Terra's only known crime -- allegedly stealing Aurora's Heart via the power of Darkness -- was actually the combined fault of Maleficent and Master Xehanort for temporarily invoking BrainwashedAndCrazy on him. Additionally, Riku deliberately attacked Sora and co. out of anger and arrogance, whereas Terra only willingly resorted to Darkness as a self-defensive last resort against Eraqus and then the aforementioned Xehanort. Braig, Eraqus, Xehanort, etc. And yet Riku ended up being the much luckier one, being able to start redeeming himself immediately after the original game; Terra, meanwhile, ended up receiving a far longer-lasting FateWorseThanDeath -- which many fans just see as blatant DisproportionateRetribution for events that were never in his control to begin with -- and he's still missing-in-action as of ''Dream Drop Distance''.
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