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11th Apr '17 7:03:09 AM Peridonyx
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* In ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/352700/patriots-of-equestria Patriots of Equestria]]'' by twilightsparkle3562, Instant Justice is supposed to be a HeWhoFightsMonsters KnightTemplar who ultimately crosses the MoralEventHorizon by invoking VigilanteExecution against BigBad Hopper. However, the story kept making Hopper such a {{Hate Sink}} monster (especially when he ended up invoking HeelFaceDoorSlam against his AntiVillain {{Dragon}}, Thumper) who only responded to force anyway. Furthermore, Princess Celestia's resulting warning that Justice's deed has only make Hopper a martyr to his fellow extremists out there, kind of falls flat as Hopper was already dying from wounds that the protagonists had given him earlier. Really, while Justice did have some excessive emotional involvement (his son had been permanently crippled by Hopper), he's still completely right about having done Equestria a favor.

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* In ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/352700/patriots-of-equestria Patriots of Equestria]]'' by twilightsparkle3562, Instant Justice is supposed to be a HeWhoFightsMonsters KnightTemplar who ultimately crosses the MoralEventHorizon by invoking VigilanteExecution against BigBad Hopper. However, the story kept making Hopper such a {{Hate Sink}} monster (especially when he ended up invoking HeelFaceDoorSlam against his AntiVillain {{Dragon}}, Thumper) who only responded to force anyway. Furthermore, Princess Celestia's resulting warning that Justice's deed has only make made Hopper a martyr to his fellow extremists out there, there... kind of falls flat as Hopper was already dying from wounds that the protagonists had given him earlier. Really, while Justice did have some excessive emotional involvement (his son had been permanently crippled by Hopper), he's still completely right about having done Equestria a favor.
4th Mar '17 4:59:05 PM FranksGirl
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** The [[VideoGame/WarcraftIII Culling of Stratholme]]. Upon finding a city 100% infected by TheVirus and likely to turn into a slavering horde of zombies within a day, Arthas chooses to [[ShootTheDog exterminate the population]]. This is portrayed as his StartOfDarkness, and prompts his superiors to attempt to relieve him of command. However, as much as Uther and Jaina protested the morality of Arthas' choice they weren't presenting him with any alternatives (other than an inane "There must be another way!"), and his decision, while cold, likely saved lives in the end (he'd have lost a lot more soldiers battling an undead army than a bunch of sick civilians). What's more, it was not strictly necessary in that level to kill the population while they were still in human form; it was instead possible to wait after destroying the buildings--after a few seconds, the infection would finish turning the occupants into undead, and one could finish them off then. It's shown, skewered, and called out in [[http://arugadh.thecomicseries.com/comics/pl/44315 this comic.]]

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** The [[VideoGame/WarcraftIII Culling of Stratholme]]. Upon finding a city 100% infected by TheVirus and likely to turn into a slavering horde of zombies within a day, Arthas chooses to [[ShootTheDog exterminate the population]]. This is portrayed as his StartOfDarkness, and prompts his superiors to attempt to relieve him of command. However, as much as Uther and Jaina protested the morality of Arthas' choice they weren't presenting him with any alternatives (other than an inane "There must be another way!"), and his decision, while cold, likely saved lives in the end (he'd have lost a lot more soldiers battling an undead army than a bunch of sick civilians). What's more, it was not strictly necessary in that level to kill the population while they were still in human form; it was instead possible to wait after destroying the buildings--after a few seconds, the infection would finish turning the occupants into undead, and one could finish them off then. It's The incident is shown, skewered, and called out in [[http://arugadh.thecomicseries.com/comics/pl/44315 com/comics/pl/443151 this comic.]]
4th Mar '17 4:57:26 PM FranksGirl
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** The [[VideoGame/WarcraftIII Culling of Stratholme]]. Upon finding a city 100% infected by TheVirus and likely to turn into a slavering horde of zombies within a day, Arthas chooses to [[ShootTheDog exterminate the population]]. This is portrayed as his StartOfDarkness, and prompts his superiors to attempt to relieve him of command. However, as much as Uther and Jaina protested the morality of Arthas' choice they weren't presenting him with any alternatives (other than an inane "There must be another way!"), and his decision, while cold, likely saved lives in the end (he'd have lost a lot more soldiers battling an undead army than a bunch of sick civilians). What's more, it was not strictly necessary in that level to kill the population while they were still in human form; it was instead possible to wait after destroying the buildings--after a few seconds, the infection would finish turning the occupants into undead, and one could finish them off then.

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** The [[VideoGame/WarcraftIII Culling of Stratholme]]. Upon finding a city 100% infected by TheVirus and likely to turn into a slavering horde of zombies within a day, Arthas chooses to [[ShootTheDog exterminate the population]]. This is portrayed as his StartOfDarkness, and prompts his superiors to attempt to relieve him of command. However, as much as Uther and Jaina protested the morality of Arthas' choice they weren't presenting him with any alternatives (other than an inane "There must be another way!"), and his decision, while cold, likely saved lives in the end (he'd have lost a lot more soldiers battling an undead army than a bunch of sick civilians). What's more, it was not strictly necessary in that level to kill the population while they were still in human form; it was instead possible to wait after destroying the buildings--after a few seconds, the infection would finish turning the occupants into undead, and one could finish them off then. It's shown, skewered, and called out in [[http://arugadh.thecomicseries.com/comics/pl/44315 this comic.]]
4th Jan '17 8:32:49 AM Peridonyx
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* ''Film/GoneBabyGone'' subverts the trope, [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist albeit dubiously.]] Once it comes out that [[spoiler:Doyle helped kidnap Amanda to save her from her criminally neglectful mother]], Patrick reports him to the authorities and Amanda is returned to her mother. At first, it looks like everything -- including Amanda's mother's neglect -- has been solved, but the last scene, where we learn the mother doesn't have a babysitter and doesn't seem to be looking too hard to find one, implies that the whole thing will eventually start all over again. [[NotQuiteTheRightThing Oops.]]


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* ''Film/GoneBabyGone'' subverts the trope, [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist albeit dubiously.]] Once it comes out that [[spoiler:Doyle helped kidnap Amanda to save her from her criminally neglectful mother]], Patrick reports him to the authorities and Amanda is returned to her mother. At first, it looks like everything -- including Amanda's mother's neglect -- has been solved, but the last scene, where we learn the mother doesn't have a babysitter and doesn't seem to be looking too hard to find one, implies that the whole thing will eventually start all over again. [[NotQuiteTheRightThing Oops.]]
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4th Jan '17 8:32:28 AM Peridonyx
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* In ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/352700/patriots-of-equestria Patriots of Equestria]]'' by twilightsparkle3562, Instant Justice is supposed to be a HeWhoFightsMonsters KnightTemplar who ultimately crosses the MoralEventHorizon by invoking VigilanteExecution against BigBad Hopper. However, the story kept making Hopper such a {{Hate Sink}} monster (especially when he ended up invoking HeelFaceDoorSlam against his AntiVillain {{Dragon}}, Thumper) who only responded to force anyway. Furthermore, Princess Celestia's resulting warning that Justice's deed has only make Hopper a martyr to his fellow extremists out there, kind of falls flat as Hopper was already dying from wounds that the protagonists had given him earlier. Really, while Justice did have some excessive emotional involvement (his son had been permanently crippled by Hopper), he's still completely right about having done Equestria a favor.
21st Oct '16 5:21:55 AM Godzillawolf
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'' ends with [[spoiler:Homura]] in this role, with the rare variation in which the designated evil character seems to agree with the others' condemnation. [[spoiler: She knows what she's doing is wrong, but Kyubey had already gotten what he wanted by putting her in the Isolation Field: he confirmed the existence of Madoka, all but guaranteeing that the Incubators would eventually be able to control or circumvent the Law of Cycles. Homura may have been selfish in forcing Madoka into a human form that she could have by her side, but the massive power of that love is what made it possible for her to restructure the universe into one that not only neutralized Kyubey as a threat, but gave all the other girls the happy lives they could never have lived otherwise]].

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'' ends with [[spoiler:Homura]] in this role, with the rare variation in which the designated evil character seems to agree with the others' condemnation. [[spoiler: She knows what she's doing is wrong, but Kyubey had already gotten what he wanted by putting her in the Isolation Field: he confirmed the existence of Madoka, all but guaranteeing that the Incubators would eventually be able to control or circumvent the Law of Cycles. Homura may have been selfish in forcing Madoka into a human form that she could have by her side, but the massive power of that love is what made it possible for her to restructure the universe into one that not only neutralized Kyubey as a threat, but gave all the other girls the happy lives they could never have lived otherwise]].otherwise (though at the cost of taking away their memories and undoing all their development)]].
4th Oct '16 7:04:34 AM NNinja
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* During a sidequest in the original campaign of the 2002 version of ''VideoGame/{{Neverwinter Nights}}'', after most of the escapees have been either killed or allowed to get away, the remaining one, who is wanted for mass murder, kidnaps the daughter of the person who gives out the bounties and holds her for ransom, with an implication that she was raped. When you find him, he attacks, but pleads for his life if he's nearly defeated. When asked why he kidnapped the girl, he initially claims that she came with him by choice. If you decide that he's lying, a high persuasion check can get him to admit that he got her drunk. If after hearing his story you decide to kill him after all, your alignment is shifted a few point towards evil, even though your only other option is letting an unrepentant murderer walk free. It should be noted that if the player chooses the initial option to kill him during the conversation instead of choosing to hear him out, alignment isn't affected.
15th Sep '16 3:54:26 AM Hylarn
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25th Aug '16 7:41:40 AM Sapphirea2
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** In the Series 9 finale "Hell Bent", Ohila chews out the Twelfth Doctor for choosing to punish [[spoiler: Rassilon and the High Council]] for [[spoiler: their actions in the Last Great Time War]] and their recent plot against him that trapped him in a bespoke torture chamber and inadvertently led to [[spoiler: the unjust execution of his innocent companion Clara]]. She outright calls him a DirtyCoward for not just forgiving and forgetting once he gets the upper hand in his situation. However, as the architects of [[spoiler: the Last Great Time War]], and given [[spoiler: Rassilon's]] established personality, apologizing and atoning for their actions may not be something they are capable of. If anything, the Doctor's decision to [[spoiler: exile them to find a new home]] is far, far better than they deserve for their monstrous actions, and certainly no one suggests an actual better way for him to handle this situation. To make matters worse, the later ExpandedUniverse comic book miniseries ''ComicBook/DoctorWhoSupremacyOfTheCybermen'' reveals that [[spoiler: Rassilon]] promptly decides to do a VillainTeamUp with the cyborgs, suggesting the Doctor might have been better off ''just killing the villains'', even though this would have opened him up to more criticism in-universe.
3rd Aug '16 4:28:01 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/{{Daybreakers}}'' gives us the [[spoiler: Mass Execution of the Subsiders via sunlight.]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Subsiders lose their higher brain functions]] and devolve into AlwaysChaoticEvil [[HalfHumanHybrid humanoid bats]] with SuperStrength and flight, and a voracious appitite for fresh blood. [[spoiler:Killing them all]] may not be pretty but it's hardly evil.
** [[spoiler:Killing the Subsiders is presented as the final moral tipping point for Edward's brother. At that point he realizes his choice of allegiance can only end with him becoming a monster like a Subsider. Even though he "was never very good at being human" he chooses to side with humanity and help Edward]]
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