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26th Mar '17 1:49:28 PM CountDorku
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** In ''VideoGame/Borderlands2'' everyone is really impressed when you go toe-to-toe with Jack's [[TheBrute Brute]], Wilhelm, and come out not just alive but victorious, possibly solo, given that Wilhelm had previously taken on the four original Vault Hunters and forced them to RunOrDie. [[spoiler:In cut audio, it turns out he went down so easily because Jack poisoned him as part of a greater plan.]]
18th Mar '17 10:45:02 AM Jgorgon
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* A recurring trend in the ''Franchise/{{Rocky}}'' series. In the first fight, Rocky is a nobody boxer given a chance against Apollo Creed, an unstoppable champion who wins every single fight via knockout. Subverted in that Rocky actually doesn't ''beat'' Apollo but comes close enough that a rematch is demanded, only this time Apollo has trained to become even ''more'' Undefeatable. The first four movies continue this trend in a weird case of SerialEscalation, culminating in the towering, unstoppable Ivan Drago.

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* A recurring trend Combined with SerialEscalation in the ''Franchise/{{Rocky}}'' series. In the first fight, series:
** ''Film/{{Rocky}}'':
Rocky is a nobody boxer given a chance against Apollo Creed, an unstoppable champion who wins every single fight via knockout. Subverted in that Rocky actually doesn't actually ''beat'' Apollo but comes close enough that Apollo. However...
** ''Film/RockyII'': Because the Rocky/Apollo fight was so close,
a rematch is demanded, only this time Apollo has trained to become even ''more'' Undefeatable. This time around Rocky does beat him, but barely.
** ''Film/RockyIII'': Rocky has become complacent as the World Heavyweight Champion, fighting a string of no-hopers arranged by Paulie to keep Rocky from losing his title. Then the monstrous Clubber Lang demands a bout with Rocky, beating him soundly and knocking him off his pedestal until he returns for a successful rematch, courtesy of some training from [[DefeatEqualsFriendship former rival]] Apollo Creed.
** ''Film/RockyIV'': Rocky goes into retirement.
The first four movies continue this trend in a weird case Soviets unveil their steroid-pumped ''machine'' of SerialEscalation, culminating in the towering, unstoppable a boxer, Ivan Drago. Not even Apollo Creed can beat him, so Rocky [[TenMinuteRetirement comes out of retirement]], flies to Russia, trains by jogging in the snow and chopping trees instead of using fancy machines, beats Drago, and single-handedly ends the Cold War.
** ''Film/RockyV'': Rocky, unable to fight himself due to old age and a brain injury, goes into retirement, but agrees to train and manage the [[RecklessSidekick impetuous, street-fighting]] Tommy "The Machine" Gunn. However, Gunn's arrogance and bad temper culminates in a streetfight against his [[RageAgainstTheMentor former mentor]] Rocky. Guess what? Rocky beats him, though the original script ended with his death shortly afterwards.
** ''Film/RockyBalboa'': Rocky [[RuleOfThree goes into retirement]], but finds himself dissatisfied with the inexplicable [[DudeWheresMyRespect lack of respect]] he receives despite his impressive record. Thus despite being in his 60s, he [[TenMinuteRetirement stages a comeback]] and, just like in the first movie, fights to a draw with the world champion, Mason "The Line" Dixon. In [[Film/{{Creed}} the next film]], his retirement finally sticks, and he acts as a mentor to Apollo Creed's son, Adonis.
25th Feb '17 9:58:04 AM ACW
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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we have an interesting variation of this trope: How do you beat a supercomputer with three omniscient minds that has manipulated the countless {{Groundhog Day Loop}}s the world has gone through to its own perfectionistic ends in [[XanatosSpeedChess a game]] [[CosmicChessGame of chess]]? Believe it or not, [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]][=/=][[EvilGenius Terumi]] [[CrazyPrepared Yuuki]] knew how to cheat his way to victory, and we, the players, are left to ask ourselves: Why him? Why, of all people, ''him''? Why, of all the possible outcomes, did ''[[BigBad HE]]'', [[SatanicArchetype the embodiment]] [[CompleteMonster of the worst]] [[OmnicidalManiac possible outcome]], have to win the Continuum Shift? Why? Because he ensured that there was no other possible outcome aside from his victory.

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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we have an interesting variation of this trope: How do you beat a supercomputer with three omniscient minds that has manipulated the countless {{Groundhog Day Loop}}s the world has gone through to its own perfectionistic ends in [[XanatosSpeedChess a game]] [[CosmicChessGame of chess]]? Believe it or not, [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]][=/=][[EvilGenius Terumi]] [[CrazyPrepared Yuuki]] knew how to cheat his way to victory, and we, the players, are left to ask ourselves: Why him? Why, of all people, ''him''? Why, of all the possible outcomes, did ''[[BigBad HE]]'', [[SatanicArchetype the embodiment]] [[CompleteMonster of the worst]] [[OmnicidalManiac worst possible outcome]], have to win the Continuum Shift? Why? Because he ensured that there was no other possible outcome aside from his victory.
22nd Feb '17 6:03:24 PM IamTheCaligula
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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we have an interesting variation of this trope: How do you beat a supercomputer with three omniscient minds that has manipulated the countless {{Groundhog Day Loop}}s the world has gone through to its own perfectionist ends in [[XanatosSpeedChess a game]] [[TheChessmaster of chess]]? Believe it or not, [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]][=/=][[EvilGenius Terumi]] [[CrazyPrepared Yuuki]] knew how to cheat his way to victory, and we, the players, are left to ask ourselves: Why him? Why, of all people, ''him''? Why, of all the possible outcomes, did ''[[BigBad HE]]'', the embodiment of the worst possible outcome, have to win the Continuum Shift? Why? Because he ensured that there was no other possible outcome than his victory.

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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we have an interesting variation of this trope: How do you beat a supercomputer with three omniscient minds that has manipulated the countless {{Groundhog Day Loop}}s the world has gone through to its own perfectionist perfectionistic ends in [[XanatosSpeedChess a game]] [[TheChessmaster [[CosmicChessGame of chess]]? Believe it or not, [[FauxAffablyEvil Hazama]][=/=][[EvilGenius Terumi]] [[CrazyPrepared Yuuki]] knew how to cheat his way to victory, and we, the players, are left to ask ourselves: Why him? Why, of all people, ''him''? Why, of all the possible outcomes, did ''[[BigBad HE]]'', [[SatanicArchetype the embodiment embodiment]] [[CompleteMonster of the worst worst]] [[OmnicidalManiac possible outcome, outcome]], have to win the Continuum Shift? Why? Because he ensured that there was no other possible outcome than aside from his victory.
20th Feb '17 2:52:21 PM AsherTye
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** The backstory also provides another example in The One Sin, a boss monster of the original World so powerful no player could beat it. Doing so is what earned Balmung of the Azure Sky and Orca of the Azure Sea their status as legendary players.
10th Feb '17 10:13:05 AM AnonFangeekGirl
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* The final fight in the ''PunchOut'' series is about defeating the undefeatable

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* ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys'' has a meta example. The game's version of HarderThanHard, [[FanNickname 4[=/=]20 Mode]] (accessed by using [[LevelEditor Custom Night]] to set all animatronics to their highest difficulty), is [[NintendoHard extremely brutal]] to the point where Scott Cawthon, the developer, thought it was flat-out impossible. Then Let's Player [=BigBug=] went and beat it. As of now, 27 people have done so and been able to prove it.
22nd Jan '17 8:49:13 PM tiger64guy
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* Arra Sails, one of the few women among the ProudWarriorRaceGuy vampires in ''Literature/TheSagaOfDarrenShan'', is this in the combat halls of Vampire Mountain. [[spoiler: She is defeated by Kurda Smahlt, a [[ActualPacifist peaceful]] person but an [[MinoredInAsskicking unexpectedly good fighter]], [[UnderestimatingBadassery because she underestimated .]]

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* Arra Sails, one of the few women among the ProudWarriorRaceGuy vampires in ''Literature/TheSagaOfDarrenShan'', is this in the combat halls of Vampire Mountain. [[spoiler: She is defeated by Kurda Smahlt, a [[ActualPacifist peaceful]] person but an [[MinoredInAsskicking unexpectedly good fighter]], [[UnderestimatingBadassery because she underestimated .underestimated]].]]
14th Jan '17 5:03:43 PM Eddy1215
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* Amongst thousands of challengers Karsa Orlong from ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' is the fist to manage killing [[spoiler:the Emperor of a Thousand Deaths]] who was supposed to be unkillable. Though he had help figuring out what the problem was, and Samar Dev at hand, who [[spoiler:had the souls trapped in her knife help transport him to the Warren where he could kill Rhulad before he was revived by his sword again]].

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* Amongst thousands of challengers challengers, Karsa Orlong from ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' is the fist to manage killing [[spoiler:the Emperor of a Thousand Deaths]] who was supposed to be unkillable. Though he had help figuring out what the problem was, and Samar Dev at hand, who [[spoiler:had the souls trapped in her knife help transport him to the Warren where he could kill Rhulad before he was revived by his sword again]].
14th Jan '17 11:07:06 AM SimiOfDoom
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* Amongst thousands of challengers Karsa Orlong from ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' is the fist to manage killing [[spoiler:the Emperor of a Thousand Deaths]] who was supposed to be unkillable. Though he had help figuring out what the problem was, and Samar Dev at hand, who [[spoiler:had the souls trapped in her knife help transport him to the Warren where he could kill Rhulad before he was revived by his sword again]].
25th Nov '16 9:07:31 PM Servbot
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* ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaVivid'' has Sieglinde Jeremiah, a tournament veteran who had never been defeated in battle, and whose single loss was due to her not appearing for her match. [[spoiler:Einhart]] gets a shot at breaking her streak [[spoiler:and eventually fails.]]
** Subverted in ''Anime/VividStrike''. Rinne Berlinetta was originally set up like this, only for it to be revealed that Vivio has already beaten her in the past.

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* ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha''
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''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaVivid'' has Sieglinde Jeremiah, a tournament veteran who had never been defeated in battle, and whose single loss was due to her not appearing for her match. [[spoiler:Einhart]] gets a shot at breaking her streak [[spoiler:and eventually fails.]]
** Subverted in ''Anime/VividStrike''. Rinne Berlinetta was originally set up like this, only for it to be revealed that Vivio has already beaten her in the past. That said, Rinne's only lost was in points and she hadn't been defeated via knockout yet [[spoiler:until her second loss to Vivio]].
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