History Main / DePopulationBomb

27th Jul '16 1:41:48 PM Willbyr
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* According to some of ''{{Touhou}}''[='=]s [[AllThereInTheManual compendiums]], scientific advances was this trope to TheFairFolk, {{Youkai}}, [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly gods]] and [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve beings that affirmed their existence]] by PaintingTheFrostOnWindows, hence causing the necessity for [[FantasticNatureReserve Genso]][[FantasyKitchenSink ukyou]] to be founded in the first place. The most notable example that is brough up is the yamabiko, benevolent echo sprits that dwell in valleys and mountains... or ''dwelled'' in valleys and mountains... Though it's uncertain how many there are left, aside from Kyouko Kasodani, it's canon that they nearly went extinct when a scientific explanation for what causes echoes was discovered.

to:

* According to some of ''{{Touhou}}''[='=]s ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}''[='=]s [[AllThereInTheManual compendiums]], scientific advances was this trope to TheFairFolk, {{Youkai}}, [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly gods]] and [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve beings that affirmed their existence]] by PaintingTheFrostOnWindows, hence causing the necessity for [[FantasticNatureReserve Genso]][[FantasyKitchenSink ukyou]] to be founded in the first place. The most notable example that is brough up is the yamabiko, benevolent echo sprits that dwell in valleys and mountains... or ''dwelled'' in valleys and mountains... Though it's uncertain how many there are left, aside from Kyouko Kasodani, it's canon that they nearly went extinct when a scientific explanation for what causes echoes was discovered.
17th Jul '16 10:19:40 PM Gamermaster
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In ''LightNovel/HighSChoolDXD'', it's not the [[{{Muggles}} blissfully ignorant]] humans who are dealing with population problems, it's everyone else. Previously, Angels were created by God, and enough of them were led astray for the Fallen Angels to keep their numbers up; Devils reproduced sexually, their low fertility [[ImmortalProcreationClause offset by long lifespans]]. After the GreatOffscreenWar, GodIsDead, and with him any new Angels, and those that are left are far too devout to ever fall, leaving both those factions considering each individual more precious than ever. Meanwhile, Devils experienced such a severe depopulation that extinction was an inevitability, and created the Evil Piece system in response in order to stabilize their population with reincarnated humans. [[spoiler:Later in the series, Angels and Fallen Angels have both borrowed the reincarnation techniques in their own ways, just in time for the vital element of it to get stolen.]]

to:

* In ''LightNovel/HighSChoolDXD'', ''LightNovel/HighSchoolDXD'', it's not the [[{{Muggles}} blissfully ignorant]] humans who are dealing with population problems, it's everyone else. Previously, Angels were created by God, and enough of them were led astray for the Fallen Angels to keep their numbers up; Devils reproduced sexually, their low fertility [[ImmortalProcreationClause offset by long lifespans]]. After the GreatOffscreenWar, GodIsDead, and with him any new Angels, and those that are left are far too devout to ever fall, leaving both those factions considering each individual more precious than ever. Meanwhile, Devils experienced such a severe depopulation that extinction was an inevitability, and created the Evil Piece system in response in order to stabilize their population with reincarnated humans. [[spoiler:Later in the series, Angels and Fallen Angels have both borrowed the reincarnation techniques in their own ways, just in time for the vital element of it to get stolen.]]
10th Jul '16 9:27:27 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
Is there an issue? Send a Message


It may be worth noting that while the NeutronBomb provides inspiration for many such weapons, a neutron bomb is ''not'' a straightforward "It only kills people" bomb. ''It is a thermonuclear weapon'', so this is mostly a simplistic comparison to other bombs with more straightforward KillEmAll purposes. That is, if you [[TheyJustDidntCare actually care about]] things like [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness scientific accuracy]].

to:

It may be worth noting that while the NeutronBomb provides inspiration for many such weapons, a neutron bomb is ''not'' a straightforward "It only kills people" bomb. ''It is a thermonuclear weapon'', so this is mostly a simplistic comparison to other bombs with more straightforward KillEmAll purposes. That is, if you [[TheyJustDidntCare actually care about]] about things like [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness scientific accuracy]].
9th Jun '16 12:53:06 PM kyeo
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[folder:Fan Works]]
* In the ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' fan adventure ''Webcomic/ACompleteWasteOfTime'', the MMORPG META has a policy of determining the players meant to play the game by compiling a list of everyone the server player knows. If anyone on that list does not install the game within one day after the server starts, they inexplicably die. On the planet Seconia (pop. 12.5 million), the ithicans are all connected with each other through some natural network, and thus everyone would know each other on an unconscious level. Unfortunately, only eight copies of the game were made on that planet, and only the owners of those eight copies survived the ensuing near-extinction of the species.
[[/folder]]



* In the ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' fan adventure ''Webcomic/ACompleteWasteOfTime'', the MMORPG META has a policy of determining the players meant to play the game by compiling a list of everyone the server player knows. If anyone on that list does not install the game within one day after the server starts, they inexplicably die. On the planet Seconia (pop. 12.5 million), the ithicans are all connected with each other through some natural network, and thus everyone would know each other on an unconscious level. Unfortunately, only eight copies of the game were made on that planet, and only the owners of those eight copies survived the ensuing near-extinction of the species.
7th May '16 9:09:01 PM MsChibi
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In ''Anime/DeathNote'', the Kira killings. More specifically, the ones after Light started having Mikami act as his proxy. Mikami went more than a little crazy with his newfound power (which included [[{{Namedar}} the Shinigami Eyes]])...and even criminalized such ''horrible'' things as being lazy. Between that and all the Kira-related incidents up to that point, there were likely several ''[[AMillionIsAStatistic millions]]'', or even ''billions'' of people killed off worldwide. When [[spoiler: Mikami killed himself and Light's name was written down by Ryuk]], and all the Kiras (and most of the Kira Cult devotees) were gone, and the world was going (more-or-less) back to normal save for a few small remnants of the Kira Cult, it's likely that many countries were facing this issue.
3rd May '16 9:46:39 PM AtticusOmundson
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Interestingly, the salarians do ''not'' view the genophage as a DepopulationBomb, but rather as a device to control the krogan birthrate to keep them from overpopulating the galaxy. As Mordin so blunty points out, if the salarians wanted to ''wipe out'' the krogan, it would have been a hell of a lot easier just to slap them with a permanent sterility version of the genophage instead of the carefully tailored one that allows for "pre-industrial growth levels" which would enable the krogan to enough young to keep up a steady population. In ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' it's revealed that [[spoiler:the krogan began to adapt to the genophage, prompting the salarians to update it to maintain a stable birthrate]].\\

to:

Interestingly, the salarians do ''not'' view the genophage as a DepopulationBomb, but rather as a device to control the krogan birthrate to keep them from overpopulating the galaxy. As Mordin so blunty points out, if the salarians wanted to ''wipe out'' the krogan, it would have been a hell of a lot easier just to slap them with a permanent sterility version of the genophage instead of the carefully tailored one that allows for "pre-industrial growth levels" which would enable the krogan to give birth to enough young to keep up a steady population. In ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' it's revealed that [[spoiler:the krogan began to adapt to the genophage, prompting the salarians to update it to maintain a stable birthrate]].\\
3rd May '16 9:13:01 PM AtticusOmundson
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Curing the genophage is a critical plot point in ''Videogame/{{Mass Effect 3}}. Not only does Wrex or Wreav (depending on who survived) want it to recover their population, it is also the only thing that will get a disunified and fractured krogan society together enough to focus on the Reaper threat. And once they're united, the krogan bring together the most powerful ground force in the entire galaxy.

to:

** Curing the genophage is a critical plot point in ''Videogame/{{Mass Effect 3}}.''Videogame/MassEffect3''. Not only does Wrex or Wreav (depending on who survived) want it to recover their population, it is also the only thing that will get a disunified and fractured krogan society together enough to focus on the Reaper threat. And once they're united, the krogan bring together the most powerful ground force in the entire galaxy.
30th Apr '16 1:06:50 PM TitaniumDragon
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* It is assumed that one of the men of Hernán Cortés who was killed as the Spaniards had to flee the Aztec capital was infected with smallpox. When the Aztecs disposed of the body, they came in contact with the virus, which started a pandemic that spread through all America and eventually killed over 90% of the native population. Some years later, Europeans colonized an almost entirely depopulated continent.
** The NobleSavage trope comes almost ''entirely'' from this. The pre-contact Indians were very much civilized and had enormous, beautiful cities that would have been the envy of the Old World. The smallpox (and later typhus, measles, influenza, etc.) came and all the knowledge and infrastructure needed to support those civilizations was LostForever.
** Evidence suggests that it was actually a black slave that came in the expedition of Pánfilo de Narvarez, who tried to arrest Cortés. The epidemic was so bad even the tlatoani (emperor), Cuitláhuac, died of smallpox. It didn't help either that when Tenochtitlan was seized, the Spaniards and natives (more that 90% of Cortés's men were allied tribes) dropped corpses on Lake Texcoco to infect the water supply.

to:

* It is assumed that one The Columbian Interchange was effectively this in relation to many Native American tribes. European (and native) diseases ended up wiping out most of the men of Hernán Cortés who was killed as population in the Spaniards had to flee the Aztec capital was infected with smallpox. When the Aztecs disposed densely populated cities of the body, they came in contact with the virus, which started a pandemic that spread through all America and eventually killed over Mesoamerica; some cities saw as much as 90% of the native population. Some years later, Europeans colonized an almost entirely depopulated continent.
**
local population die. The NobleSavage trope comes almost ''entirely'' from this. The pre-contact Indians were very much civilized and had enormous, beautiful cities While it is sometimes incorrectly claimed that would have been the envy 90% of the Old World. The population of *all* of the Americas died in these epidemics, scientific research has failed to back up these numbers. However, it was locally devastating; both the people of the Aztec Empire and the people of the Inca Empire suffered from smallpox (and later typhus, measles, influenza, etc.) came and all epidemics during their respective wars with the knowledge and infrastructure needed to support those civilizations was LostForever.
Spanish conquistadors.
** Evidence suggests that it was actually a black slave that came in During the expedition of Pánfilo de Narvarez, who tried to arrest Cortés. The epidemic was so bad even war with the Spanish, the tlatoani (emperor), (emperor) of the Aztecs, Cuitláhuac, died of smallpox. It didn't help either that when Tenochtitlan was seized, the Spaniards and natives (more that 90% of Cortés's men were allied tribes) dropped corpses on Lake Texcoco to infect the water supply.
23rd Mar '16 12:08:27 PM Mr.Bubbles
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In ''Anime/CowboyBebop'', the Astral Gate accident in 2021 [[DetonationMoon destroyed a large chunk of the moon]] and sent the debris raining down on Earth, devastating the surface of the planet, killing billions, and forcing most of the survivors to evacuate. Fifty years later, the human population across the entire solar system is down to only 1.5 billion.
13th Mar '16 2:40:11 PM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In an episode of ''{{Sliders}}'', the eponymous characters slide into a world where a Middle-Eastern country detonated a bioweapon that specifically targets the Y-chromosome, killing most of the men in the world. This gave rise to a new UsefulNotes/ColdWar, this time between US and Australia, the two countries least touched by the virus. Instead of nukes, each tries to "out-breed" the other. The surviving men are rounded up and placed in breeding centers, where they are forced to impregnate multiple women each day. Also, only the most "fit" women are allowed to take part in the breeding program. It seems artificial insemination does not exist in that world.

to:

* In an episode of ''{{Sliders}}'', ''Series/{{Sliders}}'', the eponymous characters slide into a world where a Middle-Eastern country detonated a bioweapon that specifically targets the Y-chromosome, killing most of the men in the world. This gave rise to a new UsefulNotes/ColdWar, this time between US and Australia, the two countries least touched by the virus. Instead of nukes, each tries to "out-breed" the other. The surviving men are rounded up and placed in breeding centers, where they are forced to impregnate multiple women each day. Also, only the most "fit" women are allowed to take part in the breeding program. It seems artificial insemination does not exist in that world.
This list shows the last 10 events of 92. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.DePopulationBomb