History Main / DatelessGrave

29th May '16 12:32:44 AM Doug86
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* Ubiquitous in comics. The {{Comicbook/X-Men}} have an entire cemetery full of dateless graves. However, it was averted when Jean Grey "died" for the first time -- her original lifespan was 1956 to 1980 (making her 24 when she died the first time), if you were wondering.

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* Ubiquitous in comics. The {{Comicbook/X-Men}} Comicbook/XMen have an entire cemetery full of dateless graves. However, it was averted when Jean Grey "died" for the first time -- her original lifespan was 1956 to 1980 (making her 24 when she died the first time), if you were wondering.



* Justified in ''{{Comicbook/ClanDestine}}''. Directly after the first arc, in which two relatives died, the two youngest members of the family visit the family cemetery and notice that there are no dates or last names on any of the graves. Their father explains that since the Destines are [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld very long-lived]], they don't put anything that could give away [[TheMasquerade their secret]] on the graves.

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* Justified in ''{{Comicbook/ClanDestine}}''.''Comicbook/{{ClanDestine}}''. Directly after the first arc, in which two relatives died, the two youngest members of the family visit the family cemetery and notice that there are no dates or last names on any of the graves. Their father explains that since the Destines are [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld very long-lived]], they don't put anything that could give away [[TheMasquerade their secret]] on the graves.



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* {{Averted|Trope}} in ''Literature/{{Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows}}''. For the first time in his life, Harry visits his parents' graves in Godric's Hollow, and the dates on the gravestones are practically the ''only'' place in the whole series where specific years are given. This heightens the emotional impact of the scene considerably. (The only other bit of dating evidence is from ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets Chamber of Secrets]]'', on Nearly-Headless Nick's deathday cake, which, appropriately enough, is tombstone-shaped.) We can date the series from 1991-1998.

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* {{Averted|Trope}} in ''Literature/{{Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows}}''.''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows''. For the first time in his life, Harry visits his parents' graves in Godric's Hollow, and the dates on the gravestones are practically the ''only'' place in the whole series where specific years are given. This heightens the emotional impact of the scene considerably. (The only other bit of dating evidence is from ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets Chamber of Secrets]]'', on Nearly-Headless Nick's deathday cake, which, appropriately enough, is tombstone-shaped.) We can date the series from 1991-1998.



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* {{Series/Sherlock}}'s grave gives only his name. It's a damn classy gravestone, though.

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* {{Series/Sherlock}}'s Series/{{Sherlock}}'s grave gives only his name. It's a damn classy gravestone, though.



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8th Feb '16 5:02:00 AM Clare
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/DefendersOfTheEarth'' episode "100 Proof Highway" (a VerySpecialEpisode themed around teenaged alcoholism) Mandrake learns that Kshin has [[ChildrenAreInnocent innocently]] started drinking liquor in imitation of his peers. To show Kshin [[ScareEmStraight what this could lead to]], Mandrake conjures up a vision in which an aged-up Kshin dies in a drink driving accident. The sequence ends with a shot of a gravestone bearing the inscription "Kshin RIP", with no dates given.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/DefendersOfTheEarth'' episode "100 Proof Highway" (a VerySpecialEpisode themed around teenaged alcoholism) Mandrake learns that Kshin has [[ChildrenAreInnocent innocently]] started drinking liquor in imitation of his peers. To show Kshin [[ScareEmStraight what this could lead to]], Mandrake conjures up a vision in which an aged-up Kshin dies in a drink driving accident. The sequence vision ends with a shot of a gravestone bearing the inscription "Kshin RIP", with no dates given.
19th Jan '16 2:45:53 PM Jake
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* In the third ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' novel, ''Literature/GravePeril'', Harry is given a PrematurelyMarkedGrave and gravestone by one of his (many) vampire nemeses. The gravestone has no date but reads "Harry Dresden--He died doing the right thing". Harry spends ''Literature/GhostStory'' as an OnlyMostlyDead spirit and uses the grave (still open and dateless, since they NeverFoundTheBody) as a place to hide during the day. As of ''Literature/ColdDays'', he is still alive, the grave is still dateless, and there is still a huge hole in the ground because apparently the city officials were REALLY bribed.

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* In the third ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' novel, ''Literature/GravePeril'', Harry is given a PrematurelyMarkedGrave and gravestone by one of his (many) vampire nemeses. The gravestone has no date but reads "Harry Dresden--He died doing the right thing". Harry spends ''Literature/GhostStory'' as an OnlyMostlyDead spirit and uses the grave (still open and dateless, since they NeverFoundTheBody) as a place to hide during the day. As of ''Literature/ColdDays'', he is still alive, the grave is still dateless, and there is still a huge hole in the ground because apparently the city officials were REALLY bribed. At least it's one less thing he has to [[PerpetualPoverty worry about finding the money for]] when he needs it for real.
16th Jan '16 6:44:05 AM Clare
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* Amy and Rory's gravestone in the ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode "The Angels Take Manhattan" (in which both characters are separately sent back in time by the same Weeping Angel) contains only their names and their ages when they died.


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* In the ''WesternAnimation/DefendersOfTheEarth'' episode "100 Proof Highway" (a VerySpecialEpisode themed around teenaged alcoholism) Mandrake learns that Kshin has [[ChildrenAreInnocent innocently]] started drinking liquor in imitation of his peers. To show Kshin [[ScareEmStraight what this could lead to]], Mandrake conjures up a vision in which an aged-up Kshin dies in a drink driving accident. The sequence ends with a shot of a gravestone bearing the inscription "Kshin RIP", with no dates given.
24th Nov '15 3:59:44 PM Seanette
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** Though the grave does have a year-of-birth and the number of days he lived. There is just something in the way to keep us from seeing what century that year was in.

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** Though the grave does have a year-of-birth and the number of days he lived. There However, Agatha's foot is just something in blocking a clear view of the way to keep us from seeing what first two digits of the year, thus making the century of that year was in.event unreadable.
18th Sep '15 7:27:35 AM HeraldAlberich
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* In the third ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' novel, ''Literature/GravePeril'', Harry is given a PrematurelyMarkedGrave and gravestone by one of his (many) vampire nemeses. The gravestone has no date but reads "Harry Dresden--He died doing the right thing". Harry spends ''Literature/GhostStory'' as an OnlyMostlyDead spirit and uses the grave (still open and dateless, since they NeverFoundTheBody) as a place to hide during the day. As of ''Literature/ColdDays'', he is still alive, the grave still dateless, and there is still a huge hole in the ground because apparently the city officials were REALLY bribed.

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* In the third ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' novel, ''Literature/GravePeril'', Harry is given a PrematurelyMarkedGrave and gravestone by one of his (many) vampire nemeses. The gravestone has no date but reads "Harry Dresden--He died doing the right thing". Harry spends ''Literature/GhostStory'' as an OnlyMostlyDead spirit and uses the grave (still open and dateless, since they NeverFoundTheBody) as a place to hide during the day. As of ''Literature/ColdDays'', he is still alive, the grave is still dateless, and there is still a huge hole in the ground because apparently the city officials were REALLY bribed.
18th Sep '15 7:25:01 AM HeraldAlberich
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* In the third ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' novel, Harry is given a grave and gravestone by one of his (many) vampire nemeses. The gravestone has no date but reads "Harry Dresden - He died doing the right thing". Harry was shot and killed at the end of the 12th book after calling in every chip to rescue his daughter. This will not be the end of the series, and likely not Harry either.
** Since there was a 13th book (and presumably will be more in the future), the above is a given.
** As of book 14, he is still alive, the grave still dateless, and there is still a huge hole in the ground because apparently the city officials were REALLY bribed.
* Most of the gravestones the protagonists of ''Literature/GalaxyOfFear: City of the Dead'' see are etched in a language they can't read. The one that ''does'' have an epigraph in Basic, too, doesn't have a date listed. This may have been because this is a ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' novel; at the time of writing, the only dating system to be established was Before/After the Battle of Yavin. Since the book takes place less than a year ABY, no one would have started using it as a dating system yet.

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* In the third ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' novel, ''Literature/GravePeril'', Harry is given a grave PrematurelyMarkedGrave and gravestone by one of his (many) vampire nemeses. The gravestone has no date but reads "Harry Dresden - He Dresden--He died doing the right thing". Harry was shot spends ''Literature/GhostStory'' as an OnlyMostlyDead spirit and killed at uses the end of grave (still open and dateless, since they NeverFoundTheBody) as a place to hide during the 12th book after calling in every chip to rescue his daughter. This will not be the end of the series, and likely not Harry either.
** Since there was a 13th book (and presumably will be more in the future), the above is a given.
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day. As of book 14, ''Literature/ColdDays'', he is still alive, the grave still dateless, and there is still a huge hole in the ground because apparently the city officials were REALLY bribed.
* Most of the gravestones the protagonists of ''Literature/GalaxyOfFear: City of the Dead'' see are etched in a language they can't read. The one that ''does'' have an epigraph in Basic, too, doesn't have a date listed. This may have been because this is a ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' novel; at the time of writing, the only dating system to be established was Before/After the Battle of Yavin. Since the book takes place less than a year ABY, no one would have started using it as a dating system yet.
30th Jun '15 1:30:14 PM rjd1922
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* Avoided in ''Literature/{{Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows}}''. For the first time in his life, Harry visits his parents' graves in Godric's Hollow, and the dates on the gravestones are practically the ''only'' place in the whole series where specific years are given. This heightens the emotional impact of the scene considerably. (The only other bit of dating evidence is from ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets Chamber of Secrets]]'', on Nearly-Headless Nick's deathday cake, which, appropriately enough, is tombstone-shaped.) We can date the series from 1991-1998.

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* Avoided {{Averted|Trope}} in ''Literature/{{Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows}}''. For the first time in his life, Harry visits his parents' graves in Godric's Hollow, and the dates on the gravestones are practically the ''only'' place in the whole series where specific years are given. This heightens the emotional impact of the scene considerably. (The only other bit of dating evidence is from ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets Chamber of Secrets]]'', on Nearly-Headless Nick's deathday cake, which, appropriately enough, is tombstone-shaped.) We can date the series from 1991-1998.
10th Jun '15 9:07:25 AM erforce
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* Averted in the ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' trilogy. George McFly-A's death in the alternate timeline is clearly stated as March 15, 1973 in ''Part II'', and when we see an exact date for Doc Brown's grave in ''Part III'' (September 7, 1885), trying to avoid that fate drives the entire movie.

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* Averted in the ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'' trilogy. George McFly-A's death in the alternate timeline is clearly stated as March 15, 1973 in ''Part II'', ''[[Film/BackToTheFuturePartII Part II]]'', and when we see an exact date for Doc Brown's grave in ''Part III'' ''[[Film/BackToTheFuturePartIII Part III]]'' (September 7, 1885), trying to avoid that fate drives the entire movie.
28th Apr '15 6:25:23 PM Paranoia
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*** Unless it was a trick question to trip the kid up...
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