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20th May '17 2:10:27 PM ZimFan89
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* ''Series/TwelveMonkeys'': The Army of the 12 Monkeys view their leader, [[BigBad the Witness]], as a prophet who will lead them to paradise, with just the measly cost of [[TimeCrash destroying reality]] in the process.
2nd May '17 7:02:29 PM Nicoaln
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* Artorius from ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' is built up as being TheMessiah in-universe, but it's pretty clear from the start that he is more along the lines of a Dark Messiah, having long given up on humanity and being more than willing to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill sacrifice everybody's emotions in order to "save" them]]. Throughout the game, the player learns of his DarkAndTroubledPast and even [[TheHeavy how he was manipulated by Melchior]]... who could be seen as TheAntichrist by some.
3rd Apr '17 7:13:47 AM Allronix
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* {{Implied}} in VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic and VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic with Revan. The Republic was getting hammered by the Mandalorians. The Jedi Council talked a good game about being the Republic's defenders, but didn't want to commit to a war because they suspected the Mandalorians were operating on someone else's orders (and were right), and believed the whole thing a trap. Revan didn't much care about what ''may'' have been behind the Mandalorians when Republic worlds were being slaughtered, so Revan left with best friend Malak, they took a bunch of Jedi with them, and they proceeded to fight the Mandalorians by turning their own tactics against them, sometimes abandoning whole worlds to the slaughter so other targets would be too difficult to strike. The second game goes into more detail - Revan used the [[WeHaveReserves Republic's greater numbers]] to an advantage in multiple feints, leading to victory with a ''very'' high body count, and the war was ended with a planet-busing WMD that wiped out hundreds of thousands of both Mandalorians and Republic troops alike. And this is, technically, ''before'' Revan and Malak became Sith.

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* {{Implied}} in VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic and VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic with Revan. The Republic was getting hammered by the Mandalorians. The Jedi Council talked a good game about being the Republic's defenders, but didn't want to commit to a war because they suspected the Mandalorians were operating on someone else's orders (and were right), and believed the whole thing a trap. Revan didn't much care about what ''may'' have been behind the Mandalorians when Republic worlds were being slaughtered, so Revan left with best friend Malak, they took a bunch of Jedi with them, and they proceeded to fight the Mandalorians by turning their own tactics against them, sometimes abandoning whole worlds to the slaughter so other targets would be too difficult to strike. The second game goes into more detail - Revan used the [[WeHaveReserves Republic's greater numbers]] to an advantage in multiple feints, leading to victory with a ''very'' high body count, and the war was ended with a planet-busing planet-busting WMD that wiped out hundreds of thousands of both Mandalorians and Republic troops alike. And this is, technically, ''before'' Revan and Malak became Sith.
3rd Apr '17 7:12:12 AM Allronix
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* {{Implied}} in VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic and VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic with Revan. The Republic was getting hammered by the Mandalorians. The Jedi Council talked a good game about being the Republic's defenders, but didn't want to commit to a war because they suspected the Mandalorians were operating on someone else's orders (and were right), and believed the whole thing a trap. Revan didn't much care about what ''may'' have been behind the Mandalorians when Republic worlds were being slaughtered, so Revan left with best friend Malak, they took a bunch of Jedi with them, and they proceeded to fight the Mandalorians by turning their own tactics against them, sometimes abandoning whole worlds to the slaughter so other targets would be too difficult to strike. The second game goes into more detail - Revan used the [[WeHaveReserves Republic's greater numbers]] to an advantage in multiple feints, leading to victory with a ''very'' high body count, and the war was ended with a planet-busing WMD that wiped out hundreds of thousands of both Mandalorians and Republic troops alike. And this is, technically, ''before'' Revan and Malak became Sith.
2nd Apr '17 9:20:55 AM DustSnitch
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* Joseph Balsamo aka [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade Cagliostro]] in the 1949 film ''Black Magic'' staring Creator/OrsonWelles. He uses his talent as a Hypnotist to make himself seem like a {{Jesus}} type Healer, but is in fact motivated by greed and revenge. He then plans to use his [[DoubleStandardRapeSciFi Mind Controlled]] {{Doppelganger}} of MarieAntoinette he's in love in an EvilPlan to become ruler of the world by starting UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution. At first he doesn't actually believe his divine claims, but then he losses it and goes full on AGodAmI. He's a MagnificentBastard and the plan would have worked [[spoiler: if not for the interference of Anton Mesmer, who first helped him discover his gift]].

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* Joseph Balsamo aka [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade Cagliostro]] in the 1949 film ''Black Magic'' staring Creator/OrsonWelles. He uses his talent as a Hypnotist to make himself seem like a {{Jesus}} UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} type Healer, but is in fact motivated by greed and revenge. He then plans to use his [[DoubleStandardRapeSciFi Mind Controlled]] {{Doppelganger}} of MarieAntoinette he's in love in an EvilPlan to become ruler of the world by starting UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution. At first he doesn't actually believe his divine claims, but then he losses it and goes full on AGodAmI. He's a MagnificentBastard and the plan would have worked [[spoiler: if not for the interference of Anton Mesmer, who first helped him discover his gift]].
11th Mar '17 7:03:49 PM ZimFan89
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* On ''Series/ChannelZero: Candle Cove'', [[TheDragon Frances Booth]] clearly views the Creator of Candle Cove [[spoiler: (Eddie Painter)]] as some sort of savior/deity, since they cured her of her epilepsy with their psychic powers, even going so far as to offer up her own son as a HumanSacrifice in the backstory. In the present, she's working to bring about a second coming by [[spoiler: prepping Eddie's brother, Mike, for a GrandTheftMe]].
19th Jan '17 9:45:27 PM luord
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* ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService'': Valentine, the BigBad attempting to enact a genocide, sees himself as a messiah. He encourages his guests by comparing his plan to Noah's Ark. Claiming that [[NoAntagonist neither Noah, God, nor the animals are the villains]], and that like them, they will all bring in a new age.
16th Jan '17 8:04:06 AM flodoris
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** [[spoiler:Pain]]. Despite his AGodAmI kick, he recognizes his own mortality, but before he dies, he wishes to first deliver the world from its current cycle of self-destruction [[spoiler:by destroying the current system completely]], [[UtopiaJustifiestheMeans no matter how many people suffer or die in the process]]. [[spoiler: Arguably, he became a straight Messiah later on, since his dying act was to restore Konoha, and other characters even commented on him sharing the destiny of "bringing a great change to the world of Ninja" with Naruto.]]
** [[spoiler: Tobi]] tried to pass himself off as this at first. Naruto called him on it being a load of crap, and he agreed. [[spoiler:But with the reveal of Tobi's true identity, it seems that he was being sincere about his claims after all, having pretty much been appointed to this role by Madara Uchiha himself.]]
** [[spoiler: Madara himself.]] He grew up in a warring states period that claimed most of his family, and learning that chakra was originally [[spoiler:a gift that the [[{{Precursors}} Sage of Six Paths]] intended to connect humanity]] but instead ended up escalating wars, he determined that the only to peace was to [[spoiler:become the Jinchuriki to the [[EldritchAbomination Juubi]]]] and trap the entire planet in a LotusEaterMachine. And along the way he does a ton of terrible things, [[spoiler:betraying his former best friend Hashirama (and [[NeverMyFault blaming the world for the suffering he endured after that]] despite being the one to instigate the fight and despite all the slack Hashirama cut him the past), seeing the Tailed Beasts as little more than tools for his plan]], and insisting on being the one to bring about his new world. [[spoiler:He planned to sacrifice Tobi to do it, and would have betrayed him to become the Juubi's Jinchuriki if Naruto and Sasuke hadn't defeated Tobi first.]]
** Finally, [[spoiler:Sasuke Uchiha]]. (Seeing a trend here?) After a long period of wildly changing goals, he, like his predecessors, concludes that there's only one thing to do to stop the endless wars: [[spoiler:sever the past. By which we mean kill the past.]] By which we mean kill all the Kage, kill the Tailed Beasts, and kill [[spoiler:Naruto]]. He may be the most clearly defined Dark Messiah, since his stated goal is to remove hatred from the world by making himself the sole object of it.

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** [[spoiler:Pain]]. Pain (real name Nagato). Despite his AGodAmI kick, he recognizes his own mortality, but before he dies, he wishes to first deliver the world from its current cycle of self-destruction [[spoiler:by by destroying the current system completely]], completely and replacing it with his, [[UtopiaJustifiestheMeans no matter how many people suffer or die in the process]]. [[spoiler: Arguably, process]].
** Tobi [[spoiler:aka Obito Uchiha]] also considered. He thinks
he became is living in a straight Messiah later on, since CrapsackWorld [[VillainHasAPoint (with a fair amount of justification, it must be said)]] and resents how This Is Reality is in effect with regards to heroes, ie. that very often heroes actually fail. As such, he thinks the only place heroes and dreams can truly exist is in a dream world, and he intends to create just that, even if he has to enact an AssimilationPlot to do it. Sets up a deliberate contrast to [[MessianicArchetype Naruto]].
** [[spoiler:Madara Uchiha considers himself to be. He grew up in a warring states period that claimed most of
his dying act family, and learning that chakra was originally a gift that the Sage of Six Paths intended to connect humanity but instead ended up escalating wars, he determined that the only to peace was to restore Konoha, become the [[PhysicalGod Jinchuuriki the Ten-Tails]] and other characters even commented on him sharing trap the destiny of "bringing entire planet in a great change to the world of Ninja" with Naruto.LotusEaterMachine.]]
** [[spoiler: Tobi]] tried to pass himself off as this at first. Naruto called him on it being a load of crap, and he agreed. [[spoiler:But with the reveal of Tobi's true identity, it seems that he was being sincere about his claims after all, having pretty much been appointed to this role by Madara [[spoiler:Finally, Sasuke Uchiha himself.]]
** [[spoiler: Madara himself.]] He grew up in a warring states period that claimed most of his family, and learning that chakra was originally [[spoiler:a gift that the [[{{Precursors}} Sage of Six Paths]] intended to connect humanity]] but instead ended up escalating wars, he determined that the only to peace was to [[spoiler:become the Jinchuriki to the [[EldritchAbomination Juubi]]]] and trap the entire planet in a LotusEaterMachine. And along the way he does a ton of terrible things, [[spoiler:betraying his former best friend Hashirama (and [[NeverMyFault blaming the world for the suffering he endured after that]] despite being the one to instigate the fight and despite all the slack Hashirama cut him the past), seeing the Tailed Beasts as little more than tools for his plan]], and insisting on being the one to bring about his new world. [[spoiler:He planned to sacrifice Tobi to do it, and would have betrayed him
wanted to become the Juubi's Jinchuriki if Naruto and Sasuke hadn't defeated Tobi first.]]
** Finally, [[spoiler:Sasuke Uchiha]].
one. (Seeing a trend here?) After a long period of wildly changing goals, he, like his predecessors, concludes that there's only one thing to do to stop the endless wars: [[spoiler:sever sever the past. By which we mean kill the past.]] By which we he mean kill all the Kage, kill the Tailed Beasts, and kill [[spoiler:Naruto]]. He may be the most clearly defined Dark Messiah, since his stated goal is to remove hatred from the world by making himself the sole object of it.Naruto.]]
8th Jan '17 11:34:06 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Daenerys and Drogo's son is prophesied to be the "Stallion Who Mounts The World," the ''khal'' of ''khals'' who will unite the Dothraki and lead them to dominion over the entire world.
7th Jan '17 4:02:54 PM naturalironist
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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler. After UsefulNotes/WorldWarI came to an end via means of the Treaty of Versailles armistice, [[UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany Kaiser Wilhelm II's]] abdication left Germany with less territory, a hyperinflated currency crisis, mass unemployment, and severely harsh reparations payments to the victorious Allied powers. [[HopeSpot Things seemed to be getting better]] in the mid-late '20s, only for UsefulNotes/TheGreatDepression to set it all back to where it started. Hitler's 1933 election as Chancellor of the Reichstag was soon followed by the Enabling Act, which virtually allowed him to lift Germany from the depths of the Depression into the infamous totalitarian dictatorship of [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany the Third Reich]], on a platform of reviving the German economy and providing jobs through a massive rearmament program, which in turn required repudiating the hated Treaty of Versailles. He promoted a "utopian" Germany built around the propaganda-fueled development of a superior Aryan race, which unfortunately involved the systematic elimination of undesirable minorities and political groups who were scapegoated for Germany's defeat and humiliation in the 1920s. The 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin was intended to be an occasion for Hitler to showcase the racial superiority of the Aryans, a myth which was promptly shattered when Jesse Owens won four gold medals: in the 100-meter and 200-meter sprints, the long jump, and the 4-man 100 meter baton relay. As rearmament threatened to overheat the economy in the late '30s (many economists believe that Germany would have run out of money by around 1941-42 had it not gone to war and started plundering its neighbors), Hitler tried to make good on his promise of restoring the glory of the German Reich... [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and the rest is history.]]
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