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8th Nov '17 7:53:26 AM TheMountainKing
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** His [[spoiler: last words]] are even a paraphrase of Christ's.
31st Oct '17 6:54:52 AM DarkHunter
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* Archer (and the rest of the guardian spirits) from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Making a long story short, they work as the Earth's Immune System: stored in a timeless pocket dimension, the Earth summons them to prevent incidents that would threaten humanity or itself (like, say, [[Webcomic/EightBitTheater drilling for mana]]). They do this by hunting down and killing/destroying ''everyone'' related to the incident, innocence be damned, and then return to their pocket dimension. Archer is practically the patron saint of this because he recognizes it as the most efficient means of saving people, even if he hates it.

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Archer (and the rest of the guardian spirits) Counter Guardians) from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Making a long story short, they work as the Earth's Immune System: stored in a timeless pocket dimension, the Earth summons them to prevent incidents that would threaten humanity or itself (like, say, [[Webcomic/EightBitTheater drilling for mana]]). They do this by hunting down and killing/destroying ''everyone'' related to the incident, innocence be damned, and then return to their pocket dimension. Archer is practically the patron saint of this because he recognizes it as the most efficient means of saving people, even if he hates it.it.
** ''VideoGame/FateExtra CCC'': The BigBad of the game, [[spoiler:Kiara Sesshouin]], hopes to help all of humanity reach enlightenment and save their souls... through a magically induced mass orgy, of all things. They're explicitly identified as having a messiah complex early in the story (long before the player ever gets a hint that they're the main threat). Gilgamesh lumps all would-be saviors into this category, calling messiahs the "worst type of human being imaginable".
1st Oct '17 3:55:44 PM nighttrainfm
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* Adam from ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' was specifically described as the Dark Messiah at one point, intended to bring about a new world order ruled by demon/human hybrids, and was good at inspiring demons to work for him (even Spike said so). The Master also intended to bring about his utopia by opening the Hellmouth, and was certainly treated with reverence by his subordinates.

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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'':
** The Master intended to bring about his "[[InfernalParadise utopia]]" by opening the Hellmouth, and was certainly treated with reverence by his subordinates.
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Adam from ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' was specifically described as the Dark Messiah at one point, intended planning to bring about a new world order ruled by demon/human hybrids, and was good at inspiring demons to work for him (even Spike said so). The Master also intended to bring about his utopia by opening the Hellmouth, and was certainly treated with reverence by his subordinates.
30th Sep '17 3:13:30 PM DVB
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* Redcloak, who serves as both TheDragon and something of an AntiVillain in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', is the High Priest of a dark god (aptly named "The Dark One") who preaches a better world for the AlwaysChaoticEvil Goblin race, who, in the ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' themed world, are doomed to the fate of being {{Mooks}} for the "[[DesignatedHero heroes]]" to gain XP from. His {{plan}} is to blackmail the Gods into evening things out for his race. Although he preaches a better future, he is a ruthless and brutal individual who [[FantasticRacism despises]] humans (particularly paladins, who [[FreudianExcuse killed his family]]) and (formerly) hobgoblins.
** Lord Xykon and even Redcloak's brother Right-Eye believe Redcloak is full of it and that his Dark Messiah act is nothing but an [[NeverMyFault excuse]] for his inexcusable deeds. The real reason Redcloak is so committed to the Plan is because quitting now would mean that the deaths of all the goblins that occurred in the name of the Plan (many of whom were killed by Xykon for fun) [[spoiler:including Right-Eye whom ''Redcloak'' murdered to protect ''Xykon'']] would have been for nothing. He can't face shouldering the blame for all those deaths.

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* Redcloak, who serves as both TheDragon and something of an AntiVillain in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', is the High Priest of a dark god (aptly named "The The Dark One") One, the god of all goblinoids who preaches a better world for the AlwaysChaoticEvil Goblin race, who, in the ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' themed world, are doomed to the fate of being {{Mooks}} for the "[[DesignatedHero heroes]]" to gain XP from. His {{plan}} The Dark One's plans is to blackmail use a ritual requiring arcane and divine magic to try and control the Snarl, [[EldritchAbomination a monsterous paradoxical entity]][[ContinuitySnarl born from the gods' paradoxes in shaping the world]] and basically coerce the Gods into evening to make things better (as for the Snarl's power, it did wipe out for his race. the ''entire Eastern Pantheon''.) Although he Redcloak preaches a better future, he is a ruthless and brutal individual who [[FantasticRacism despises]] humans (particularly paladins, who [[FreudianExcuse killed his family]]) and (formerly) hobgoblins.
once bore racism toward hobgoblins, despite his supposed role as his peoples' savior. He does snap out of the latter to try and improve the lot of all goblinoid races. However, it's clear he has done alot of horrible reasons.
** Lord Xykon and even Redcloak's brother Right-Eye believe Redcloak is full of it and call out his DarkMessiah routine, but for different reasons. For Xykon, it's because he figures Redcloak uses it as an excuse instead of being ''truly'' evil (though EvilCannotComprehendGood should be noted since Xykon does stuff ForTheEvulz.) Right-Eye meanwile calls out Redcloak for the hypocrisy in trying to be their peoples' savior, but working with a psychopath like Xykon (who slaughters their people), the fact that his Dark Messiah act is nothing but an [[NeverMyFault excuse]] for his inexcusable deeds.Redcloak seemed to never grow past being the angry teen he was when put on the Crimson Mantle, and that he doesn't know what the Goblin people want. The real reason Redcloak is so committed to the Plan is because quitting now would mean that the deaths of all the goblins that occurred in the name of the Plan (many of whom were killed by Xykon for fun) [[spoiler:including Right-Eye whom ''Redcloak'' murdered to protect ''Xykon'']] would have been for nothing. He can't face shouldering the blame Xykon himself lampshades this in a [[BreakThemByTalking speech that successfully cows Redcloak into being his lackey for all those deaths.a long while.]]
9th Aug '17 10:24:45 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' (by the same author as ''Everworld'' above), Visser One also [[InvokedTrope invokes]] the MessianicArchetype in order to found The Sharing, which was originally more like a cult than anything. She acquired a special male host to better fit her role as Dark Messiah, and eventually had him killed, [[GenreSavvy knowing that humans would tear down a leader but lionize a martyr]].

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* In ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' (by the same author as ''Everworld'' above), Visser One also [[InvokedTrope invokes]] the MessianicArchetype in order to found The Sharing, which was originally more like a cult than anything. She acquired a special male host to better fit her role as Dark Messiah, and eventually had him killed, [[GenreSavvy knowing that humans would tear down a leader but lionize a martyr]].martyr.



* The Empress in ''TabletopGame/StrikeLegion'' deliberately built herself up as one of these, after concluding that [[GenreSavvy fear was not a solid foundation to rule a galactic empire upon.]] Though a bit of a transparent {{Expy}} of the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} God-Emperor of Man]], she is still an active ruler, not ending up as a DarkLordOnLifeSupport like he did, and when the love of her worshippers is insufficient to keep the peace and her fleets can't control the unruly, she can always use her RealityWarper abilities to [[PersonOfMassDestruction destroy star systems]] to keep them in line.

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* The Empress in ''TabletopGame/StrikeLegion'' deliberately built herself up as one of these, after concluding that [[GenreSavvy fear was not a solid foundation to rule a galactic empire upon.]] upon. Though a bit of a transparent {{Expy}} of the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} God-Emperor of Man]], she is still an active ruler, not ending up as a DarkLordOnLifeSupport like he did, and when the love of her worshippers is insufficient to keep the peace and her fleets can't control the unruly, she can always use her RealityWarper abilities to [[PersonOfMassDestruction destroy star systems]] to keep them in line.
2nd Aug '17 12:12:25 PM LavonPapillon1
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* Fiona, [=AKA=] The Black Fairy in ''Series/OnceUponATime'' committed herself to averting her son [[spoiler:Rumpelstiltskin's]] fate of dying as the savior by [[spoiler:turning herself into a fairy and creating the Dark Curse]] hoping that it would stop the one who was destined to destroy him. When her dress turns black when she was set to kill Tiger Lily, a crescent-shaped mark appears on her wrist, revealing that ''she'' was the destined darkness who was meant to destroy the savior. After being banished by the Blue Fairy to the Dark realms after severing her son's fate with the shears of destiny, she spent the next many centuries [[spoiler:kidnapping children and turning them into labor for harvesting dark fairy dust]], harvesting their power and preparing for the Final Battle, an event where Light (represented by Emma) and Dark (herself) would battle for the fate of all worlds.
24th Jul '17 5:48:06 PM ZimFan89
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* In ''FanFic/AgesOfShadow'', Boaz was personally trained by his religion's goddess in order to lead his people to greatness. This would sound pretty good, except that it's a ReligionOfEvil, the goddess in question is an [[AxCrazy insane]] FallenHero-turned-EldritchAbomination, and "leading to greatness" means [[TakeOverTheWorld conquering the world]].

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* In ''FanFic/AgesOfShadow'', Boaz was personally trained by his religion's goddess in order to lead his people to greatness. This would sound pretty good, except that it's a ReligionOfEvil, the goddess in question is an [[AxCrazy insane]] FallenHero-turned-EldritchAbomination, and "leading to greatness" means [[TakeOverTheWorld conquering the world]]. [[spoiler: Gets upgraded to TheAntichrist when he's [[BackFromTheDead resurrected]] even more powerful than before, and intends to destroy modern civilization and take over what's left afterwards.]]
10th Jul '17 5:41:37 PM WanderingBrowser
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Daenerys and Drogo's son is prophesied to be the "Stallion Who Mounts The World," the ''khal'' of ''khals'' who will unite the Dothraki and lead them to dominion over the entire world.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Daenerys and Drogo's son unborn son, Rhaego, is prophesied to be the "Stallion Who Mounts The World," the ''khal'' of ''khals'' who will unite the Dothraki and lead them to dominion over the entire world.world. Whilst the Dothraki naturally see him as TheMessiah, as the Dothraki are seen by every other culture in Essos and Westeros as the most bloodthirsty, brutal, savage and barbaric people in the world -- and not without due reason! -- he more than fits this. This is lampshaded by Mirri Maz Duur, who subtly implies that her real reason for "helping" Khal Drogo was not to punish him for massacring her village, but to try and ScrewDestiny, ensuring Rhaego is stillborn and can never fulfill his destiny.
** Daenerys herself may be either this or TheMessiah, the series hasn't really come clean either way and it may even be a matter of perspective. ''She'' sees herself as the rightful queen returning to reclaim a throne that belongs to her... but, on the other hand, she intends to do so by burning her way across Westeros with three fire-breathing dragons ''and'' after having fulfilled her stillborn son's destiny by unleashing the Dothraki upon Westeros.
6th Jul '17 12:17:40 PM memememememe
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It's a CrapsackWorld, and things are only getting worse. There are heroes, but the [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo won't let them cause more than a few ripples of good in a sea of]] BlackAndGrayMorality. Out of this ambiguity comes a savior, someone who brings hope to the [[HoldingOutForAHero downtrodden]] and preaches a utopian vision of peace and prosperity for all. However, [[AntiHero he isn't afraid to fight fire with fire]]. In a world where moral absolutes are impossible to find, he will [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized use underhanded tactics, preemptive strikes, and otherwise act like Genghis Khan's patron saint in his quest to bring about that perfect world.]]

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It's a CrapsackWorld, and things are only getting worse. There are heroes, but the [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo won't let them cause more than a few ripples of good in a sea of]] BlackAndGrayMorality. Out of this ambiguity comes a savior, someone who brings hope to the [[HoldingOutForAHero downtrodden]] and preaches a utopian vision of peace and prosperity for all. However, [[AntiHero he isn't afraid to fight fire with fire]]. In a world where moral absolutes are impossible to find, he will [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized use underhanded tactics, preemptive strikes, and otherwise act like Genghis Khan's patron saint other acts of Radical Terrorism that puts ISIS to shame in his quest to bring about that perfect world.]]



The '{{villain|s}}ous' version of this character is usually hiding behind a more traditionally [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good messiah image]]. He may secretly be a StrawHypocrite, but just as often, he is terrifyingly fervent in believing his messianic message and getting others to do the same. May or may not be secretly spreading the ReligionOfEvil, but usually assembles a {{Cult}} around himself; may or may not have [[WellIntentionedExtremist good as his ultimate goal]]. Almost ''always'' operates on {{Ubermensch}} mentality.

May or may not be a MagnificentBastard ByronicHero. Contrast with AllLovingHero, TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified. Has nothing to do with the video game ''VideoGame/DarkMessiah''. See also ApocalypseMaiden, TheAntichrist. When put against the AllLovingHero or the MessianicArchetype, that's a DuelingMessiahs dynamic.

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The '{{villain|s}}ous' version of this character is usually hiding behind a more traditionally [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good messiah image]]. He may secretly be a StrawHypocrite, but just as often, he is terrifyingly fervent in believing his messianic message and getting others to do the same. May or may not be secretly spreading the ReligionOfEvil, but usually assembles a {{Cult}} around himself; may or may not have [[WellIntentionedExtremist good as his ultimate goal]].

Almost ''always'' operates on {{Ubermensch}} mentality.

or TotalitarianUtilitarian mentality. May or may not be a MagnificentBastard ByronicHero. Contrast with AllLovingHero, TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified. Has nothing to do with the video game ''VideoGame/DarkMessiah''. See also ApocalypseMaiden, TheAntichrist. When put against the AllLovingHero or the MessianicArchetype, that's a DuelingMessiahs dynamic.
6th Jul '17 12:12:32 PM memememememe
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* Makishima Shougo from ''Anime/PsychoPass'' committed a number of terrible murders in order to [[spoiler:provide awareness for people to live like human beings]].

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* Makishima Shougo from ''Anime/PsychoPass'' committed a number of terrible murders and terrorism in order to [[spoiler:provide awareness for people to live like human beings]].[[spoiler:liberate Japan from an Orwellian BigBrotherIsWatching regime that quantifies and criminalizes emotions]].
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