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18th Apr '16 10:32:00 AM thatmadork
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* In the ending of ''VideoGame/{{Mercenaries}}'', the Song regime is toppled and North Korea loses its nationhood. Depending on which faction you have the highest affinity with, it either gets reunited with South Korea, annexed into the People's Republic of China, or becomes a lawless backwater dominated by the Russian Mafiya. The sequel asserts that the second scenario is canonically what happened.
16th Apr '16 12:03:32 PM Kytseo
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** For ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', the AnimatedAdaptation, ''Anime/PokemonOrigins'', goes with the idea that Red and Blue picked Charmander and Squirtle respectively. It also ends with [[spoiler: Red capturing Mewtwo]], and has [[spoiler: Giovanni disbanding Team Rocket (like in the original version), as opposed to going into hiding (like in the remake continuity)]].
9th Apr '16 7:50:12 PM BigKlingy
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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom (Laslow's daughter Soleil lacks the Brand as well, unlike what was seen with Lissa and Owain in ''Awakening''; the only characters to bring up the subject are Odin, being Owain and all, and his daughter Ophelia); Laslow expresses insecurity that he's not royalty in his S-Rank Support with Azura (whereas Chrom!Inigo would be the first prince of Ylisse and second in line to the throne behind Lucina); and Laslow will note that he's unable to perform the Awakening ritual if given the Emblem Shield accessory, which someone of the Exalted bloodline would be able to do. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]

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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom (Laslow's daughter Soleil lacks the Brand as well, unlike what was seen with Lissa and Owain in ''Awakening''; the only characters to bring up the subject are Odin, being Owain and all, and his daughter Ophelia); Laslow expresses insecurity that he's not royalty in his S-Rank Support with Azura (whereas Chrom!Inigo would be the first prince of Ylisse and second in line to the throne behind Lucina); and Laslow will note that he's unable to perform the Awakening ritual if given the Emblem Shield accessory, which someone of the Exalted bloodline would be able to do. His battle dialogue with Robin's Amiibo also implies Robin probably isn't his father either, as while he realises the Robin he know is different, he says he's willing to fight this incarnation "old friend or not", something you ''probably'' wouldn't call your father. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]
21st Mar '16 9:19:35 PM X2X
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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom (Laslow's daughter Soleil lacks the Brand as well, unlike what was seen with Lissa and Owain in ''Awakening''; the other characters to bring up the subject are Odin, being Owain and all, and his daughter Ophelia); Laslow expresses insecurity that he's not royalty in his S-Rank Support with Azura (whereas Chrom!Inigo would be the first prince of Ylisse); and Laslow will note that he's unable to perform the Awakening ritual if given the Emblem Shield accessory, which someone of the Exalted bloodline would be able to do. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]

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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom (Laslow's daughter Soleil lacks the Brand as well, unlike what was seen with Lissa and Owain in ''Awakening''; the other only characters to bring up the subject are Odin, being Owain and all, and his daughter Ophelia); Laslow expresses insecurity that he's not royalty in his S-Rank Support with Azura (whereas Chrom!Inigo would be the first prince of Ylisse); Ylisse and second in line to the throne behind Lucina); and Laslow will note that he's unable to perform the Awakening ritual if given the Emblem Shield accessory, which someone of the Exalted bloodline would be able to do. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]
21st Mar '16 9:16:57 PM X2X
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* The ''VideoGame/MegaManZX'' series may be digging itself a hole of this sort. The first game has two possible player characters, Vent and Aile, whose stories are similar but irreconcilable. The second has two new player characters -- one of whom coexists with Vent and the other with Aile. There is a manga based on Megaman ZX, and the main character they chose to follow is Vent.
** However, the ZX Advent manga takes the MergingTheBranches approach, and issue #55 of the [[ComicBook/MegaMan Archie Comics series]] rather blatantly indicates that Ian Flynn intended to take the same approach with the entire ZX storyline.

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* The ''VideoGame/MegaManZX'' series may be digging itself a hole of this sort. The first game has two possible player characters, Vent and Aile, whose stories are similar but irreconcilable. The second has two new player characters -- one of whom coexists with Vent and the other with Aile. There is a manga based on Megaman ZX, ''Mega Man ZX'', and the main character they chose to follow is Vent.
** However, the ZX Advent ''ZX Advent'' manga takes the MergingTheBranches approach, and issue #55 of the [[ComicBook/MegaMan Archie Comics series]] rather blatantly indicates that Ian Flynn intended to take the same approach with the entire ZX ''ZX'' storyline.



** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom (Laslow's daughter Soleil lacks the Brand as well, unlike what was seen with Lissa and Owain in ''Awakening''; the other characters to bring up the subject are Odin, being Owain and all, and his daughter Ophelia), and Laslow will note that he's unable to perform the Awakening ritual if given the Emblem Shield accessory, which someone of the Exalted bloodline would be able to do. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]

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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom (Laslow's daughter Soleil lacks the Brand as well, unlike what was seen with Lissa and Owain in ''Awakening''; the other characters to bring up the subject are Odin, being Owain and all, and his daughter Ophelia), Ophelia); Laslow expresses insecurity that he's not royalty in his S-Rank Support with Azura (whereas Chrom!Inigo would be the first prince of Ylisse); and Laslow will note that he's unable to perform the Awakening ritual if given the Emblem Shield accessory, which someone of the Exalted bloodline would be able to do. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]
21st Mar '16 9:11:57 PM X2X
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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom (in fact, Odin is the only character to bring up that subject, being Owain and all), and Laslow will note that he's unable to perform the Awakening ritual if given the Emblem Shield accessory, which someone of the Exalted bloodline would be able to do. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]

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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom (in fact, Odin is (Laslow's daughter Soleil lacks the only character Brand as well, unlike what was seen with Lissa and Owain in ''Awakening''; the other characters to bring up that subject, the subject are Odin, being Owain and all), all, and his daughter Ophelia), and Laslow will note that he's unable to perform the Awakening ritual if given the Emblem Shield accessory, which someone of the Exalted bloodline would be able to do. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]
21st Mar '16 9:05:52 PM X2X
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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]

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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom.Chrom (in fact, Odin is the only character to bring up that subject, being Owain and all), and Laslow will note that he's unable to perform the Awakening ritual if given the Emblem Shield accessory, which someone of the Exalted bloodline would be able to do. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]
21st Mar '16 8:59:30 PM X2X
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* ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' has [[AnyoneCanDie permadeath]] as [[FinalDeath a gameplay mechanic.]] Outside of certain modes or specific plot-relevant characters, any member of your army in any game will be KilledOffForReal if they fall in battle. However, whenever a game in the series gets a direct sequel (that is, a game set in the same universe, as the series usually operates on the NonLinearSequel principle), the new entry generally assumes all of its predecessor's characters survived (and were recruited in the first place), so any character death in gameplay is treated as non-canon.
** In fact, ''FireEmblemAwakening'' strongly implies that the entire franchise is set in an interconnected multiverse accessible through the Outrealm gates where each individual "universe" has ''multiple'' versions of it all existing at once; in fact, [[spoiler:the time-traveling in the main plot is implied to actually be just a case of dimension hopping]]. Basically, while all playthroughs/universes may be equally canon, the direct sequels are only set in the ones where KillEmAll ''wasn't'' invoked.

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* ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' has [[AnyoneCanDie permadeath]] as [[FinalDeath a gameplay mechanic.]] mechanic]]. Outside of certain modes or specific plot-relevant characters, any member of your army in any game will be KilledOffForReal if they fall in battle. However, whenever a game in the series gets a direct sequel (that is, a game set in the same universe, as the series usually operates on the NonLinearSequel principle), the new entry generally assumes all of its predecessor's characters survived (and were recruited in the first place), so any character death in gameplay is treated as non-canon.
** In fact, ''FireEmblemAwakening'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' strongly implies that the entire franchise is set in an interconnected multiverse accessible through the Outrealm gates where each individual "universe" has ''multiple'' versions of it all existing at once; in fact, [[spoiler:the time-traveling in the main plot is implied to actually be just a case of dimension hopping]]. Basically, while all playthroughs/universes may be equally canon, the direct sequels are only set in the ones where KillEmAll ''wasn't'' invoked.



*** In ''Shadow Dragons'', the Nintendo DS version of the first game, one character has to sacrifice themself in the prologue to lure away the enemy, and this character never returns. If you skip the prologue, Frey isn't present, which seems to imply he was the canonical sacrifice. In ''New Mystery of the Emblem'', all character who could have been the sacrifice are alive and well, but Frey's support conversations specifically meantion that he was indeed the canonical sacrifice, but was merely wounded and left for dead rather than killed.

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*** In ''Shadow Dragons'', Dragon'', [[VideoGameRemake the Nintendo DS version remake of the first game, game]], one character has to sacrifice themself themselves in the prologue to lure away the enemy, and this character never returns. If you skip the prologue, Frey isn't present, which seems to imply he was the canonical sacrifice. In ''New Mystery of the Emblem'', all character characters who could have been the sacrifice are alive and well, but Frey's support Support conversations specifically meantion mention that he was indeed the canonical sacrifice, but was merely wounded and left for dead rather than killed.



** ''Awakening'' has another aversion. The DLC battles involving the characters from ''FireEmblemAkaneia'' make vague references to ''New Mystery's'' player-created character, and [[CanonName canonise their name as]] [[GenderBlenderName Kris]], but what pronoun is used to refer to them depends on the gender of ''Awakening's'' Avatar, meaning male and female Kris are both equally canon.

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** ''Awakening'' has another aversion. The DLC battles involving the characters from ''FireEmblemAkaneia'' [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia the Akaneia games]] make vague references to ''New Mystery's'' player-created character, and [[CanonName canonise their name as]] [[GenderBlenderName Kris]], but what pronoun is used to refer to them depends on the gender of ''Awakening's'' Avatar, meaning male and female Kris are both equally canon.



** ''Awakening'' and ''Fates'' have a combined example that is both an aversion and played straight at the same time. [[spoiler:One of the amiibo characters is Robin, the player-created character of ''Awakening''. He only appears as a male, using the default model and voice, unlike in ''Awakening'' proper where he can be either male or female, and he gets unique battle quotes if he faces Selena, Lazward, and Odin (who are simply Severa, Inigo, and Owain from ''Awakening'' operating under pseudonyms). However, those three characters imply that he is not the Robin they knew which averts it for ''Awakening''. So how is this played straight? Because this Robin is heavily implied to be the Robin who partook in ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U]]'' where you could select between Male and Female Robin, meaning the male version of Robin is the one considered to have fought in Smash. Then again, ''Smash'' did allow multiple versions of the same character to fight all at once...]]

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** ''Fates'' also seems to suggest that [[spoiler:Inigo is ''[[ShipSinking not]]'' the son of Chrom. In the Before Awakening DLC, where the Avatar meets and aids Chrom's group shortly prior to the prologue of ''Awakening'', Odin/Owain will nearly slip up and refer to Lissa as his mother; Laslow/Inigo does not do this for Chrom, merely asking him to be on the lookout for Olivia, whom Chrom has yet to cross paths with. Furthermore, Laslow's Support conversations with Xander discretely mention the [[BirthmarkOfDestiny Brand of the Exalt]], something Inigo himself would have if fathered by Chrom. [[ShipToShipCombat News at 11.]]]]
** ''Awakening'' and ''Fates'' have a combined example that is both an aversion and played straight at the same time. [[spoiler:One of the amiibo characters is Robin, the player-created character of ''Awakening''. He only appears as a male, using the default model and voice, unlike in ''Awakening'' proper where he can be either male or female, and he gets unique battle quotes if he faces Selena, Lazward, and Odin (who are simply Severa, Inigo, and Owain from ''Awakening'' operating under pseudonyms). However, those three characters imply that he is not the Robin they knew knew, which averts it for ''Awakening''. So how is this played straight? Because this Robin is heavily implied to be the Robin who partook in ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U]]'' where you could select between Male and Female Robin, meaning the male version of Robin is the one considered to have fought in Smash.''Smash''. Then again, ''Smash'' did allow multiple versions of the same character to fight all at once...]]



** ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'', on the other hand, can be seen as [[spoiler: a confirmation of the worst ending of the game, in which Harry was DeadAllAlong]].

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** ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'', on the other hand, can be seen as [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a confirmation of the worst ending of the game, in which Harry was DeadAllAlong]].



* The flash game ''[[http://zeiva.deviantart.com/art/Imaginary-Realm-1-44542195 Imaginary Realm]]'' has multiple endings which depend on how well you do in the cooking minigame. [[spoiler: The canon ending is the worst possible one you can get, which you "earn" by cooking any of Rosey's recipes.]]

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* The flash game ''[[http://zeiva.deviantart.com/art/Imaginary-Realm-1-44542195 Imaginary Realm]]'' has multiple endings which depend on how well you do in the cooking minigame. [[spoiler: The mini-game. [[spoiler:The canon ending is the worst possible one you can get, which you "earn" by cooking any of Rosey's recipes.]]
3rd Mar '16 12:09:20 PM kazokuhouou
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* The first two ''Franchise/FatalFrame'' games both have multiple endings, but the third game follows from the bad ending for both of them where [[spoiler: Mafuyu (in 1) and Mayu (in 2) die]]. By extension, [[spoiler: the ''fifth'' game, canonically following the third game, also presumes that the bad ending in the first game happened.]]

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* The first two ''Franchise/FatalFrame'' games both have multiple endings, but the third game follows from the bad ending for both of them where [[spoiler: Mafuyu (in 1) and Mayu (in 2) die]]. By extension, [[spoiler: the ''fifth'' game, canonically following the third game, also presumes that the bad ending [[spoiler: in the first game happened.]]game]] happened.
26th Feb '16 4:40:13 AM Gigglepud
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* The sequel to ''VisualNovel/{{Juuzaengi}}'' continues on from Ryuubi's route only.
** Discussed in the Otomate Party 2013 event, after the sequel game announcement, where Sousou, Chouryou and Chouun promise the heroine that even if their relationship resets, they'll find a way to be together again and Kakouen [[spoiler: states wistfully if he gets a second chance, he'd spend it better with Kakouton and Kan'u.]]
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