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14th Sep '17 5:52:14 PM Pichu-kun
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* The third ''VideoGame/YokaiWatch'' game doesn't include the female playable character of the previous game, Katie, as a playable character. This cements Nate as the canon protagonist of the series. Instead of Katie, Inaho is playable alongside Nate. The third version ''Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki'' made Katie playable again [[spoiler:and even gave her a {{youkai}} form like Nate]].

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* The third ''VideoGame/YokaiWatch'' game doesn't include the female playable character of the previous game, Katie, as a playable character. This cements Nate as the canon protagonist of the series. Instead of Katie, Inaho is playable alongside Nate. The third version ''Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki'' made Katie playable again [[spoiler:and even gave her a {{youkai}} form like Nate]].Nate]] but only in a select portion of the game. Otherwise, Nate is still the protagonist in ''Sukiyaki''.
14th Sep '17 5:48:17 PM Pichu-kun
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** Averted in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' where [[PreviousPlayerCharacterCameo Red]] has all three starters ([[ThirdOptionAdaptation four if you include Yellow's Pikachu]]) and Blue didn't use his. It was however invoked in ''[[VideoGameRemake HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'', cutting off the branch of the female PlayerCharacter from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FireRed and LeafGreen]]''. The Gen II games also have a number of details implying that Red, Green and Blue (which have the same story) are the canon prequels, rather than Yellow, such as Blue's team being based on his team from those games (minus his starter), the absence of the Summer Beach House (which existed only in Yellow) in Route 19, and the house of the girl who gives the player Bulbasaur in Yellow being absent, in its place being the house of the man who lives with his wife and trades Pokémon with people in R/G/B (who had been replaced by the Bulbasaur girl in Yellow). The issue of what Pokémon Red caught regardless of version, was avoided by rounding out his team with a Snorlax (a forced encounter, as two of them were blocking the routes to Fuchsia City) and either an Espeon (evolved from the Eevee found at the Celadon Mansion - although this does confirm Red never used an evolutionary stone on that Eevee) in the original games or a Lapras (a gift from one of the Silph Co. employees during Team Rocket's takeover) in the remakes and later.

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** Averted in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' where [[PreviousPlayerCharacterCameo Red]] has all three starters ([[ThirdOptionAdaptation four if you include Yellow's Pikachu]]) include]] ''Yellow'''s Pikachu) and Blue didn't use his. It was however invoked in ''[[VideoGameRemake HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'', cutting off the branch of the female PlayerCharacter from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FireRed and LeafGreen]]''. The Gen II games also have a number of details implying that Red, ''Red, Green and Blue Blue'' (which have the same story) are the canon prequels, rather than Yellow, ''Yellow'', such as Blue's team being based on his team from those games (minus his starter), the absence of the Summer Beach House (which existed only in Yellow) ''Yellow'') in Route 19, and the house of the girl who gives the player Bulbasaur in Yellow ''Yellow'' being absent, in its place being the house of the man who lives with his wife and trades Pokémon with people in R/G/B ''R/G/B'' (who had been replaced by the Bulbasaur girl in Yellow).''Yellow''). The issue of what Pokémon Red caught regardless of version, was avoided by rounding out his team with a Snorlax (a forced encounter, as two of them were blocking the routes to Fuchsia City) and either an Espeon (evolved from the Eevee found at the Celadon Mansion - although this does confirm Red never used an evolutionary stone on that Eevee) in the original games or a Lapras (a gift from one of the Silph Co. employees during Team Rocket's takeover) in the remakes and later.
14th Sep '17 5:46:17 PM Pichu-kun
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** ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' does it as well. In ''Black & White'' you can catch Kyurem, but in the sequels it was caught by Team Plasma instead. Since the Musketeer Trio are still around in the sequels, catching them in the first game is also non-canon.
*** Liberty Garden is only accessible in the first games by event, and it serves as the place where you catch Victini. In ''[=B2/W2=]'', you can visit the island without the event, and Victini is missing. The implication is that the event is canon, and the previous protagonists caught Victini before the events of the sequel.
* Averted with ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand''. Despite the game having 9 different endings, including two arguably [[GoldenEnding good ones]] (one where the {{Status Quo|IsGod}} is more or less restored with some newcomers to the team, and one where Fox and Krystal have [[HeroicLineage a son named Marcus]] who creates a new younger team), Miyamoto and Nintendo decided to "plant a new tree" and to [[ContinuityReboot reboot]] once again the [[VideoGame/StarFox franchise]] with ''VideoGame/StarFoxZero'', leaving the end of the old timeline undefined. This decision was somewhat of [[BrokenBase a base-breaker]] (''Command'' itself being one) and fans are split between those who hated the game and its plot are are glad that it was [[CanonDiscontinuity discontinued]] and those who would have liked to see more of Dash and Amanda, or even of Marcus' team.

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** ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' does it as well. In ''Black & White'' you can catch Kyurem, but in the sequels it was caught by Team Plasma instead. Since the Musketeer Trio are still around in the sequels, catching them in the first game is also non-canon.
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non-canon. Liberty Garden is only accessible in the first games by event, and it serves as the place where you catch Victini. In ''[=B2/W2=]'', you can visit the island without the event, and Victini is missing. The implication is that the event is canon, and the previous protagonists caught Victini before the events of the sequel.
** Subverted with the protagonist of ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver GSC/HGSS]]''. The ending to ''VideoGame/PokemonStadium 2'' shows Kris versus Silver, which implies the female protagonist is canon. However, the ''Stadium'' games haven't been deemed canon and thus its unknown if the canonical Johto protagonist is Ethan or Lyra (who replaced Kris in the remakes).
* ''VideoGame/StarFox'':
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Averted with ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand''. Despite the game having 9 different endings, including two arguably [[GoldenEnding good ones]] (one where the {{Status Quo|IsGod}} is more or less restored with some newcomers to the team, and one where Fox and Krystal have [[HeroicLineage a son named Marcus]] who creates a new younger team), Miyamoto and Nintendo decided to "plant a new tree" and to [[ContinuityReboot reboot]] once again the [[VideoGame/StarFox franchise]] with ''VideoGame/StarFoxZero'', leaving the end of the old timeline undefined. This decision was somewhat of [[BrokenBase a base-breaker]] (''Command'' itself being one) and fans are split between those who hated the game and its plot are are glad that it was [[CanonDiscontinuity discontinued]] and those who would have liked to see more of Dash and Amanda, or even of Marcus' team.
14th Sep '17 8:52:11 AM MummyGaGa
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*** This one is actually a little odd, because the game makes numerous references to events that happened at the end of their social links, implying they were canonical[[note]] You have to complete each of the team's respective social links in order to obtain their ultimate Persona[[/note]]. For example: [[TheHero Yu's]][[note]] The [[SuddenlyVoiced previously]] [[HelloInsertNameHere Silent P4 Protagonist]], now called Yu Narukami[[/note]] win quote against Yosuke (verses mode only) alludes to the fistfight they had at the end of the "Magician" social link. Even more confusingly, ''VideoGame/Persona4DancingAllNight'' has Yu using his default Persona, Izanagi, for most of the game, then [[spoiler:switching to its ultimate evolved Izanagi-no-Okami for the final boss for no reason other than the fact it's cooler. Presumably the rest of the team's Personas operate under the same principle?]]

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*** This one is actually a little odd, because the game makes numerous references to events that happened at the end of their social links, implying they were canonical[[note]] You have to complete each of the team's respective social links in order to obtain their ultimate Persona[[/note]]. For example: [[TheHero Yu's]][[note]] The [[SuddenlyVoiced previously]] [[HelloInsertNameHere Silent P4 Protagonist]], now called Yu Narukami[[/note]] win quote against Yosuke (verses mode only) alludes to the fistfight they had at the end of the "Magician" social link. Even more confusingly, ''VideoGame/Persona4DancingAllNight'' has Yu using his default Persona, Izanagi, for most of the game, then [[spoiler:switching to its ultimate evolved Izanagi-no-Okami for the final boss for no reason other than the fact it's cooler. Presumably the rest of the team's Personas operate under the same principle?]]principle?]] In addition, Teddie's social link is a mandatory one and his Ultimate Persona is not optional.
6th Sep '17 1:43:26 PM MagBas
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6th Sep '17 1:33:24 PM Ninjabot
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** ''VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles'': Curiously, Knuckles' story (which takes place after Sonic's) seems to be a continuation of Sonic's Good ending, rather than his Best ending, as the cliffhanger leading to Knuckles' story is only seen in the former. The implication seems to be that Sonic's Best ending is non-canon, or that Knuckles' story is non-canon.
5th Sep '17 1:14:27 PM DracoKanji
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* ''VideoGame/DarkSouls3'' plays with this as well with its FinalBoss. [[spoiler:The Soul of Cinder can backflip in is Scimitar form, which in ''Dark Souls 1'' required the Dark Wood Grain Ring, and also has spells only used by the player in either of the earlier games]]. That said, it doesn't specifically preclude the player starting an Age of Dark in neither, either, or both. So much time has passed that countless Ages of Fire and Dark have passed.
26th Aug '17 6:47:50 PM nombretomado
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* Played partially straight in the ''VideoGame/ArTonelico'' series. The first game has seven endings and two possible route splits which depend on the Reyvateil the players choose during Phase 2: Aurica or Misha. According to a light novel that was published after the first game was released, to Flash-based visual novels made by the developers, and dialogue present in the second game, the canon route is Aurica's. However, the "partially" is because it has never been stated if either her ending or the third heroine's one is canon.

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* Played partially straight in the ''VideoGame/ArTonelico'' ''VideoGame/ExaPico'' series. The [[VideoGame/ArTonelicoMelodyOfElemia first game game]] has seven endings and two possible route splits which depend on the Reyvateil the players choose during Phase 2: Aurica or Misha. According to a light novel that was published after the first game was released, to Flash-based visual novels made by the developers, and dialogue present in the second game, the canon route is Aurica's. However, the "partially" is because it has never been stated if either her ending or the third heroine's one is canon.
23rd Aug '17 9:10:27 AM bjex
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}''[='=]s Adventure Paths often take place thousands of miles apart, so the effect the events of one have on another is minimal (necessary since no two playthroughs will be exactly the same). However, since a couple of them could potentially result in TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, it can generally be assumed that the adventurers won in the end. For example, if the world isn't frozen solid after ''Reign of Winter''. Probably the biggest example of this trope is the ''Jade Regent'' path, which makes several assumptions about how ''Rise of the Runelords'' turned out; Ameiko is alive, her brother and father are dead, Shalelu survived, and Sandpoint has been rebuilt. If, for example, Ameiko ''isn't'' alive, the GM is encouraged to HandWave it by introducing [[RememberTheNewGuy her newly arrived]] [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute half-sister]].

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}''[='=]s Adventure Paths often take place thousands of miles apart, so the effect the events of one have on another is minimal (necessary since no two playthroughs will be exactly the same). However, since a couple of them could potentially result in TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, it can generally be assumed that the adventurers won in the end. For example, if the world isn't frozen solid after ''Reign of Winter''.
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Probably the biggest example of this trope is the ''Jade Regent'' path, which is based around a minor character from the beginning of ''Rise of the Runelords'', and thus makes several assumptions about how ''Rise of the Runelords'' that turned out; Ameiko is alive, her brother and father are dead, Shalelu survived, and Sandpoint has been rebuilt. If, for example, Ameiko ''isn't'' alive, the GM is encouraged to HandWave it by introducing [[RememberTheNewGuy her newly arrived]] [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute half-sister]].
20th Aug '17 2:48:24 AM jormis29
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** ''Iron Gods'' potentially ends with one of your NPC allies ascending to godhood in place of the BigBad. Said NPC returns as major divine player an unknown number of centuries later in ''Starfinder''.

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** ''Iron Gods'' potentially ends with one of your NPC allies ascending to godhood in place of the BigBad. Said NPC returns as major divine player an unknown number of centuries later in ''Starfinder''.''TabletopGame/{{Starfinder}}''.
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