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4th Jan '17 9:24:29 AM Ookamikun
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** And even then, [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2006/09/07/star-fox-command-interview?page=2 an interview]] with the developers state that should a game that considers ''Command'' canon gets made, they'd rather use the middle as the starting point.
28th Dec '16 10:32:08 AM BoukenDutch
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* ''Videogame/LuckyTower'': the second game has three endings; in the first one Von Wanst becomes king, in the second one he dies and becomes a ghost, and in the third one he ends up in the tower from the first game. But since this game is a prequel to the first one, only the third ending can be considered canon.
8th Dec '16 8:37:55 PM PrincessGwen
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*** Not only the Outrealms are still in ''Fates'', but the concept is explored again in another DLC set known as ''Heirs of Fates'': [[spoiler: The player gets to control [[AscendedExtra the Second Generation children]], each coming from ''Birthright'' or ''Conquest'' universes where [[EvilGod Anankos]] not only ''did'' manage to destroy both realms and the world, but dumps them in a ''Revelations''-gone-wrong sort-of world where [[BarrierMaiden Shigure]] and [[TeamPet Lilith]] are the {{sole survivor}}s. The kids must stop fighting between them, straighten up their differences and, under Shigure and [[SpiritAdvisor Azura's soul]]'s lead, defeat this Anankos so they can leave.]]

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*** Not only the Outrealms are still in ''Fates'', but the concept is explored again in another DLC set known as ''Heirs of Fates'': [[spoiler: The player gets to control [[AscendedExtra the Second Generation children]], each coming from ''Birthright'' or ''Conquest'' universes where [[EvilGod Anankos]] not only ''did'' manage to destroy both realms and the world, but dumps them in a ''Revelations''-gone-wrong ''Revelation''-gone-wrong sort-of world where [[BarrierMaiden Shigure]] and [[TeamPet Lilith]] are the {{sole survivor}}s. The kids must stop fighting between them, straighten up their differences and, under Shigure and [[SpiritAdvisor Azura's soul]]'s lead, defeat this Anankos so they can leave.]]
6th Dec '16 8:05:18 AM GlitteringFlowers
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** Not only the Outrealms are still in ''Fates'', but the concept is explored again in another DLC set known as ''Heirs of Fates'': [[spoiler: The player gets to control [[AscendedExtra the Second Generation children]], each coming from ''Birthright'' or ''Conquest'' universes where [[EvilGod Anankos]] not only ''did'' manage to destroy both realms and the world, but dumps them in a ''Revelations''-gone-wrong sort-of world where [[BarrierMaiden Shigure]] and [[TeamPet Lilith]] are the {{sole survivor}}s. The kids must stop fighting between them, straighten up their differences and, under Shigure and [[SpiritAdvisor Azura's soul]]'s lead, defeat this Anankos so they can leave.]]

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** *** Not only the Outrealms are still in ''Fates'', but the concept is explored again in another DLC set known as ''Heirs of Fates'': [[spoiler: The player gets to control [[AscendedExtra the Second Generation children]], each coming from ''Birthright'' or ''Conquest'' universes where [[EvilGod Anankos]] not only ''did'' manage to destroy both realms and the world, but dumps them in a ''Revelations''-gone-wrong sort-of world where [[BarrierMaiden Shigure]] and [[TeamPet Lilith]] are the {{sole survivor}}s. The kids must stop fighting between them, straighten up their differences and, under Shigure and [[SpiritAdvisor Azura's soul]]'s lead, defeat this Anankos so they can leave.]]
6th Dec '16 8:04:29 AM GlitteringFlowers
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*** In the first game, you could recruit either the Paladin Arran or the Hero Samson, but not both. In ''Mystery of the Emblem'', Arran is with Marth's knights from the start and Samson isn't seen until much later in the game, where he doesn't seem to know Marth personally and doesn't hesitate to attack him, which means recruiting Arran was likely canon.

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*** In the first game, you the player could recruit either the Paladin Arran or the Hero Samson, but not both. In ''Mystery of the Emblem'', Arran is with Marth's knights from the start and Samson isn't seen until much later in the game, where he doesn't seem to know Marth personally and doesn't hesitate to attack him, which means recruiting Arran was likely canon.



*** In ''Shadow Dragon'', [[VideoGameRemake the Nintendo DS remake of the first game]], one character has to sacrifice themselves in the prologue to lure away the enemy, and this character never returns. If you skip the prologue, Frey isn't present, which seems to imply he was the canonical sacrifice. In ''New Mystery of the Emblem'', all characters who could have been the sacrifice are alive and well, but Frey's Support conversations specifically mention that he was indeed the canonical sacrifice, but was merely wounded and left for dead rather than killed.
*** For how ''New Mystery'' dealt with the sidequest characters, see MergingTheBranches. The only exception is Nagi, who Marth doesn't recognise in ''New Mystery'', implying her sidequest was non-canon. (Which makes sense, seeing as it only occurs if you miss out on getting the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Falchion]]).

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*** In ''Shadow Dragon'', [[VideoGameRemake the Nintendo DS remake of the first game]], one character has to sacrifice themselves in the prologue to lure away the enemy, and this character never returns. If you skip the prologue, prologue is skipped Frey isn't present, which seems to imply he was the canonical sacrifice. In ''New Mystery of the Emblem'', all characters who could have been the sacrifice are alive and well, but Frey's Support conversations specifically mention that he was indeed the canonical sacrifice, but was merely wounded and left for dead rather than killed.
*** For how How ''New Mystery'' dealt with the sidequest characters, see characters is described in MergingTheBranches. The only exception is Nagi, who Marth doesn't recognise in ''New Mystery'', implying her sidequest was non-canon. (Which makes sense, seeing as it only occurs if you miss the player misses out on getting the [[InfinityPlusOneSword Falchion]]).



** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' would seem to imply that Severa, Inigo, and Owain canonically went unpaired at the end of ''Awakening'', as their unpaired endings state that they went to other lands, [[spoiler:with all three appearing in ''Fates'' under the [[PaperThinDisguise Paper-Thin Disguises]] of Selena, Laslow and Odin. They're all even able to marry the other ''Fates'' characters]]! However, the existence of [[TheMultiverse the Outrealms]] indicates that while [[spoiler:''Fates''[='s=] Severa, Inigo, and Owain came from an ''Awakening'' playthrough where they remained single, the playthroughs where they ended up married are all still technically canon.]]
*** ''Awakening'' and ''Fates'' have a combined example that is both an aversion and played straight at the same time. [[spoiler:One of the amiibo characters is Robin, the player-created character of ''Awakening''. He only appears as a male, using the default model and voice, unlike in ''Awakening'' proper where he can be either male or female, and he gets unique battle quotes if he faces Selena, Lazward, and Odin (who are simply Severa, Inigo, and Owain from ''Awakening'' operating under pseudonyms). However, those three characters imply that he is not the Robin they knew, which averts it for ''Awakening''. So how is this played straight? Because this Robin is heavily implied to be the Robin who partook in ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U]]'' where you could select between Male and Female Robin, meaning the male version of Robin is the one considered to have fought in ''Smash''. Then again, ''Smash'' did allow multiple versions of the same character to fight all at once...]]

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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' would seem to imply that Severa, Inigo, and Owain canonically went unpaired at the end of ''Awakening'', as their unpaired endings state that they went to other lands, [[spoiler:with all three appearing in ''Fates'' under the [[PaperThinDisguise Paper-Thin Disguises]] of Selena, Laslow and Odin. They're all even able to marry the other ''Fates'' characters]]! However, the existence of [[TheMultiverse the Outrealms]] indicates that while [[spoiler:''Fates''[='s=] Severa, Inigo, and Owain came from an ''Awakening'' playthrough where they remained single, the playthroughs where they ended up married are all still technically canon.]]
]] '''Plus''', some of their dialogues imply that in their particular universes, the DLC Scramble stages '''are''' canon as well.
*** ''Awakening'' and ''Fates'' have a combined example that is both an aversion and played straight at the same time. [[spoiler:One of the amiibo characters is Robin, the player-created character of ''Awakening''. He only appears as a male, using the default model and voice, unlike in ''Awakening'' proper where he can be either male or female, and he gets unique battle quotes if he faces Selena, Lazward, and Odin (who are simply Severa, Inigo, and Owain from ''Awakening'' operating under pseudonyms). However, those three characters imply that he is not the Robin they knew, which averts it for ''Awakening''. So how is this played straight? Because this Robin is heavily implied to be the Robin who partook in ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U]]'' where you one could select between Male and Female Robin, meaning the male version of Robin is the one considered to have fought in ''Smash''.''Smash'' rather than the one from ''Awakening''. Then again, ''Smash'' did allow multiple versions of the same character to fight all at once...]]
** Not only the Outrealms are still in ''Fates'', but the concept is explored again in another DLC set known as ''Heirs of Fates'': [[spoiler: The player gets to control [[AscendedExtra the Second Generation children]], each coming from ''Birthright'' or ''Conquest'' universes where [[EvilGod Anankos]] not only ''did'' manage to destroy both realms and the world, but dumps them in a ''Revelations''-gone-wrong sort-of world where [[BarrierMaiden Shigure]] and [[TeamPet Lilith]] are the {{sole survivor}}s. The kids must stop fighting between them, straighten up their differences and, under Shigure and [[SpiritAdvisor Azura's soul]]'s lead, defeat this Anankos so they can leave.
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28th Nov '16 9:24:39 AM Pichu-kun
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* The third ''VideoGame/YokaiWatch'' game doesn't include the female playable character of the previous game, Katie, as a playable character. This cements Nate as the canon protagonist of the series. Instead of Katie, Inaho is playable alongside Nate.

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* The third ''VideoGame/YokaiWatch'' game doesn't include the female playable character of the previous game, Katie, as a playable character. This cements Nate as the canon protagonist of the series. Instead of Katie, Inaho is playable alongside Nate. The third version ''Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki'' made Katie playable again [[spoiler:and even gave her a {{youkai}} form like Nate]].
27th Nov '16 6:04:20 AM Hanz
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* ''Videogame/Dishonored2'' assumes for the most part that Corvo was for the most part Low-Chaos, though the intro shows that Corvo canonically killed a few guards. Meanwhile, Daud (who is canonically spared) is implied to have sealed Delilah away in her ritual while also [[spoiler:sparing Billie, who shows up as Meagan Foster]].
14th Nov '16 7:47:32 PM infernape612
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* ''VisualNovel/{{Sampaguita}}'', the third game of the VisualNovel series ''VisualNovel/{{Yarudora}}'', boasts three Good Endings, five Normal Endings, and twenty Bad Endings; so, when a Trading Card Collection set was made [[http://tradingcardsfan.conceptbb.com/t1458-sampaguita-trading-collection and released]], Good End 2 was chosen as the main storyline, while Good End 3, Normal End 2, Bad End 1, and Bad End 9 became Parallel Stories (and the remaining Endings not used at all).* ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''. The original game allows for [[HandsomeLech Makoto]] to end up with one (or more) of several very different girls. Both the anime and manga adaptation, however, focus on the love triangle between Makoto, [[TheOjou Kotonoha]] and [[GirlNextDoor Sekai]], though they ultimately play out rather differently. The anime is an interesting case study -- it's what happens when you're determined to avoid ruling out as many ending as you can. Makoto hooks up with ''every'' girl he can end up with in the game and more besides. Trouble is, this by definition makes him an utter {{jerkass}}, and more or less demands his [[spoiler: eventual death]], followed by [[spoiler: Kotonoha killing Sekai and taking off [[AlasPoorYorick Makoto's head]].]]

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* ''VisualNovel/{{Sampaguita}}'', the third game of the VisualNovel series ''VisualNovel/{{Yarudora}}'', boasts three Good Endings, five Normal Endings, and twenty Bad Endings; so, when a Trading Card Collection set was made [[http://tradingcardsfan.conceptbb.com/t1458-sampaguita-trading-collection and released]], Good End 2 was chosen as the main storyline, while Good End 3, Normal End 2, Bad End 1, and Bad End 9 became Parallel Stories (and the remaining Endings not used at all).all).
* ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''. The original game allows for [[HandsomeLech Makoto]] to end up with one (or more) of several very different girls. Both the anime and manga adaptation, however, focus on the love triangle between Makoto, [[TheOjou Kotonoha]] and [[GirlNextDoor Sekai]], though they ultimately play out rather differently. The anime is an interesting case study -- it's what happens when you're determined to avoid ruling out as many ending endings as you can. Makoto hooks up with ''every'' girl he can end up with in the game and more besides. Trouble is, this by definition makes him an utter {{jerkass}}, and more or less demands his [[spoiler: eventual death]], followed by [[spoiler: Kotonoha killing Sekai and taking off [[AlasPoorYorick Makoto's head]].]]
14th Nov '16 7:44:35 PM infernape612
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* Konami's PC-playable adaptation of ''Film/BatmanReturns'' is an inversion: a case of grafting on ''new'' branches. In addition to featuring a subplot that wasn't in the movie [[spoiler: (an attempt to blackmail Mayor Jenkins with a phony, incriminating videotape)]], there are four possible endings. The first is the same as that of the movie: [[spoiler: The Penguin and Max Shreck both die, and Catwoman mysteriously vanishes]]. Two other possible endings are [[DownerEnding downer ones]]: either the Penguin defeats Jenkins in the recall election and Batman sits forlornly in the Batcave, hanging his head; or the Penguin succeeds in blowing up Gotham City with his army of missile-launching penguins, and Batman likewise sits forlornly in the Batcave and hangs his head. The fourth possible ending is the same as the movie ending, but with a twist: [[spoiler: as the game is structured around {{Random Encounter}}s]], Catwoman will disappear at the game's conclusion ''only'' if you never meet up with her in your travels around the city. If you ''don't'' manage to encounter her, then you finally meet her at the end of the game, she gets a saucy grin on her face, you take her home with you to Wayne Manor, and...well, you can probably guess [[OffscreenInertia the rest]].]]

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* Konami's PC-playable adaptation of ''Film/BatmanReturns'' is an inversion: a case of grafting on ''new'' branches. In addition to featuring a subplot that wasn't in the movie [[spoiler: (an attempt to blackmail Mayor Jenkins with a phony, incriminating videotape)]], there are four possible endings. The first is the same as that of the movie: [[spoiler: The Penguin and Max Shreck both die, and Catwoman mysteriously vanishes]]. Two other possible endings are [[DownerEnding downer ones]]: either the Penguin defeats Jenkins in the recall election and Batman sits forlornly in the Batcave, hanging his head; or the Penguin succeeds in blowing up Gotham City with his army of missile-launching penguins, and Batman likewise sits forlornly in the Batcave and hangs his head. The fourth possible ending is the same as the movie ending, but with a twist: [[spoiler: as the game is structured around {{Random Encounter}}s]], Encounter}}s, Catwoman will disappear at the game's conclusion ''only'' if you never meet up with her in your travels around the city. If you ''don't'' manage to encounter her, then you finally meet her at the end of the game, she gets a saucy grin on her face, you take her home with you to Wayne Manor, and...well, you can probably guess [[OffscreenInertia the rest]].]]
25th Oct '16 1:47:47 PM Prometheus117
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** ''Soulstorm'', likely due to [[CanonDiscontinuity how unpopular Soulstorm itself was]]), confirmed that [[spoiler:the Blood Ravens]] lost horribly, and the true victory went to [[spoiler:the Imperial Guard]].

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** ''Soulstorm'', likely due to [[CanonDiscontinuity how unpopular Soulstorm itself was]]), was]], confirmed that [[spoiler:the Blood Ravens]] lost horribly, and the true victory went to [[spoiler:the Imperial Guard]].Guard under [[FourStarBadass General]] Vance "[[MemeticMutation Motherfucking]]" Strubbs]].
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