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10th Jun '16 12:45:55 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Anime/{{Macross}}'', this along with HumanityIsInfectious caused three Zentradi spies to [[GoingNative go native]]. Also a somewhat similar thing with TheAce on the enemy's side who tries to study and defeat TheAce on the human side. [[spoiler:They end up getting married and have a child.]]

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* In ''Anime/{{Macross}}'', ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'', this along with HumanityIsInfectious caused three Zentradi spies to [[GoingNative go native]]. Also a somewhat similar thing with TheAce on the enemy's Zentradi side who tries to study and defeat TheAce on the human side. [[spoiler:They end up getting married and have a child.]]
2nd Nov '15 2:40:42 AM StFan
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-->-- FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality

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-->-- FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality
''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality''



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* In ''Anime/{{Macross}}'', this along with HumanityIsInfectious caused three Zentradi spies to [[GoingNative go native]].
** Also a somewhat similar thing with TheAce on the enemy's side who tries to study and defeat TheAce on the human side. [[spoiler:They end up getting married and have a child.]]

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* In ''Anime/{{Macross}}'', this along with HumanityIsInfectious caused three Zentradi spies to [[GoingNative go native]].
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native]]. Also a somewhat similar thing with TheAce on the enemy's side who tries to study and defeat TheAce on the human side. [[spoiler:They end up getting married and have a child.]]



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* In ''ComicBook/CartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'', a pagan Roman couple in the arena watch with fascination as a Christian martyr enthusiastically welcomes death by lion ("C'mon! What are you waiting for?"):
--> '''Pagan Man:''' Man, how do they do that?
--> '''Pagan Woman:''' [[CreepyMonotone Must...find...out...]]
* This happens all the time in ''ComicBook/ChickTracts''. Ala "Who is Jesus? Tell me more!" and a few panels later they're crying and begging for forgiveness.

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* In ''ComicBook/CartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'', ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'', a pagan Roman couple in the arena watch with fascination as a Christian martyr enthusiastically welcomes death by lion ("C'mon! What are you waiting for?"):
--> '''Pagan -->'''Pagan Man:''' Man, how do they do that?
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that?\\
'''Pagan Woman:''' [[CreepyMonotone Must...find...Must... find... out...]]
* This happens all the time in ''ComicBook/ChickTracts''. Ala A la "Who is Jesus? Tell me more!" and a few panels later they're crying and begging for forgiveness.



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* John Preston in ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' is an interesting case. He was a loyal member of the [[StateSec Tetragrammaton]], but he understands how people who aren't on emotion suppressants act, sort of intuiting emotion. After meeting a resistance member who reminded him of his dead wife, and killing his partner for going off the emotion inhibiting drugs, he accidentally-ish broke the morning vial emotion suppressants. He''llo'' emotion!
** He later finds out that [[spoiler:his son has been off the meds since Preston's wife's execution and has been successfully hiding it from even his own father. Then again, Preston didn't know his wife was off the meds too until too late]].
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'', Jack Skellington is deathly bored with running Halloween, so when he accidentally winds up in Christmasland he becomes morbidly curious as to how Christmas "works". Facing BlueAndOrangeMorality, he conducts experiments trying to [[MeasuringTheMarigolds measure the marigolds]] to quantify merriment, deduce generosity, and distill happiness. Eventually he embraces his image of the concept so thoroughly he tries to save Santa the hassle of running Christmas. It went [[GoneHorriblyWrong Horribly Wrong]].
** In other words, this trope is [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]]. Also, one should note that unlike most trope examples, [[DarkIsNotEvil Jack isn't evil]].

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* John Preston in ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' is an interesting case. He was a loyal member of the [[StateSec Tetragrammaton]], but he understands how people who aren't on emotion suppressants act, sort of intuiting emotion. After meeting a resistance member who reminded him of his dead wife, and killing his partner for going off the emotion inhibiting drugs, he accidentally-ish broke the morning vial emotion suppressants. He''llo'' emotion!
** He later finds out that [[spoiler:his son has been off the meds since Preston's wife's execution and has been successfully hiding it from even his own father. Then again, Preston didn't know his wife was off the meds too until too late]].
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'', Jack Skellington is deathly bored with running Halloween, so when he accidentally winds up in Christmasland he becomes morbidly curious as to how Christmas "works". Facing BlueAndOrangeMorality, he conducts experiments trying to [[MeasuringTheMarigolds measure the marigolds]] to quantify merriment, deduce generosity, and distill happiness. Eventually he embraces his image of the concept so thoroughly he tries to save Santa the hassle of running Christmas. It went goes [[GoneHorriblyWrong Horribly Wrong]].
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Wrong]]. In other words, this trope is [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]]. Also, one should note that unlike most trope examples, [[DarkIsNotEvil Jack isn't evil]].



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* John Preston in ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' is an interesting case. He was a loyal member of the [[StateSec Tetragrammaton]], but he understands how people who aren't on emotion suppressants act, sort of intuiting emotion. After meeting a resistance member who reminded him of his dead wife, and killing his partner for going off the emotion inhibiting drugs, he accidentally-ish broke the morning vial emotion suppressants. He''llo'' emotion! He later finds out that [[spoiler:his son has been off the meds since Preston's wife's execution and has been successfully hiding it from even his own father. Then again, Preston didn't know his wife was off the meds too until too late]].
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** The mechanic, but not the trope, is inverted in its spiritual ancestor, ChangelingTheDreaming, where delving into fae lore and power causes one to become less human and more fae but this is unquestionably a Bad Thing, as humanity is the natural state and the dream is the corrupting influence.

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** * The mechanic, but not the trope, is inverted in its spiritual ancestor, ChangelingTheDreaming, ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming'', where delving into fae lore and power causes one to become less human and more fae but this is unquestionably a Bad Thing, as humanity is the natural state and the dream is the corrupting influence.



* Many colonization efforts in early America went this route-

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* Many colonization efforts in early America went this route-route:



** Even after this, African slaves still made a run for Indian communities, for the obvious reason that being a slave sucked and they weren't all that quick to believe that Massa was telling the truth about Indians being savages, since Massa himself was a complete asshole. This is most famously the origin of the Black Seminoles. It should be noted that one of the big advantages in expanding the American frontier is that the bigger America got, the harder it was for slaves to run away to Indian tribes and become nearly unfindable.
*** The fact that their captors would've also referred to the slaves' ''own freeborn African ancestors'' as "savages" probably also gave would-be runaways an entirely-different impression of what that word connoted.
** This also explains how so many current African Americans can find Indian ancestry in their lineage.
*** In fact, one might be surprised upon meeting a man as black as the ace of spades to learn that he identifies himself as Cherokee.
* This can also happen regarding religion, but not quite as [[EasyEvangelism easily as is sometimes portrayed.]]
** Also works in reverse (inversion?), where a person investigates their religion trying to answer their questions and concerns about it, and end up leaving the religion altogether; sometimes for another religion, a more personal, toned-down version of their previous one, even outright agnosticism or atheism.
*** This is why many believers-turned-atheists claim that the easiest way to lose one's religion is to read one's holy text cover-to-cover without a middleman interpreting it. Naturally, there's plenty of people who do this on a daily basis and still retain their faith, so the argument is only valid for some people.
**** More generally, sometimes when extremist people with BlackAndWhiteInsanity discover that The Enemy is not the Cult Of Pure Evil they had it hyped as in their mind, they assume that the side they were previously on is Completely Wrong and switch to an equally extreme position on the opposite side. It happens between religion and atheism, between different religions, between political factions, etc., anywhere there are two extreme factions bitterly opposing each other. Instead of reaching a more sane conclusion, sometimes their response to seeing a strong counterexample to their previous prejudices is to just say "GASP! EVERYTHING I'VE EVER KNOWN IS A LIE!!" and rubberband to the opposite extreme position.

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** Even after this, African slaves still made a run for Indian communities, for the obvious reason that being a slave sucked and they weren't all that quick to believe that Massa was telling the truth about Indians being savages, since Massa himself was a complete asshole. This is most famously the origin of the Black Seminoles. It should be noted that one of the big advantages in expanding the American frontier is that the bigger America got, the harder it was for slaves to run away to Indian tribes and become nearly unfindable.
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unfindable. The fact that their captors would've also referred to the slaves' ''own freeborn African ancestors'' as "savages" probably also gave would-be runaways an entirely-different impression of what that word connoted.
**
connoted. This also explains how so many current African Americans can find Indian ancestry in their lineage.
*** In fact, one might be surprised upon meeting a man as black as the ace of spades to learn that he identifies himself as Cherokee.
* This can also happen regarding religion, but not quite as [[EasyEvangelism easily as is sometimes portrayed.]]
**
]] Also works in reverse (inversion?), where a person investigates their religion trying to answer their questions and concerns about it, and end up leaving the religion altogether; sometimes for another religion, a more personal, toned-down version of their previous one, even outright agnosticism or atheism.
***
atheism. This is why many believers-turned-atheists claim that the easiest way to lose one's religion is to read one's holy text cover-to-cover without a middleman interpreting it. Naturally, there's plenty of people who do this on a daily basis and still retain their faith, so the argument is only valid for some people.
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people.\\\
More generally, sometimes when extremist people with BlackAndWhiteInsanity discover that The Enemy is not the Cult Of Pure Evil they had it hyped as in their mind, they assume that the side they were previously on is Completely Wrong and switch to an equally extreme position on the opposite side. It happens between religion and atheism, between different religions, between political factions, etc., anywhere there are two extreme factions bitterly opposing each other. Instead of reaching a more sane conclusion, sometimes their response to seeing a strong counterexample to their previous prejudices is to just say "GASP! EVERYTHING I'VE EVER KNOWN IS A LIE!!" and rubberband to the opposite extreme position.



9th Jul '15 4:40:58 PM nombretomado
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* In ''{{Macross}}'', this along with HumanityIsInfectious caused three Zentradi spies to [[GoingNative go native]].

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* In ''{{Macross}}'', ''Anime/{{Macross}}'', this along with HumanityIsInfectious caused three Zentradi spies to [[GoingNative go native]].
6th Feb '15 10:42:36 AM MJTR
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* Cassandra Cain in Fanfic/AngelOfTheBat is said to have had some knowledge of Jesus and Christianity since she was a child living on the streets, but only becomes really interested after she rescues a priest being mugged and takes note of the way he almost immediately forgives his attackers. His philosophy sets her on the path that ultimate leads to her spirituality and Catholicism.
1st Jan '15 5:04:08 PM eroock
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-->-- ''Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality''

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-->-- ''Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality''
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24th Jun '14 11:09:50 PM Gnomeicecream
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->''One case of true curiosity had the same sort of redeeming power in rationality that one case of true love had in movies. Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality''

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->''One case of true curiosity had the same sort of redeeming power in rationality that one case of true love had in movies. Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality''''
24th Jun '14 11:09:30 PM Gnomeicecream
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->''One case of true curiosity had the same sort of redeeming power in rationality that one case of true love had in movies. Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality''
-->-- ''Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality''
20th Apr '14 2:08:06 PM intastiel
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* John Preston in ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' is an interesting case. He was a loyal member of the [[ThoughtPolice Tetragrammaton]], but he understands how people who aren't on emotion suppressants act, sort of intuiting emotion. After meeting a resistance member who reminded him of his dead wife, and killing his partner for going off the emotion inhibiting drugs, he accidentally-ish broke the morning vial emotion suppressants. He''llo'' emotion!

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* John Preston in ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' is an interesting case. He was a loyal member of the [[ThoughtPolice [[StateSec Tetragrammaton]], but he understands how people who aren't on emotion suppressants act, sort of intuiting emotion. After meeting a resistance member who reminded him of his dead wife, and killing his partner for going off the emotion inhibiting drugs, he accidentally-ish broke the morning vial emotion suppressants. He''llo'' emotion!
19th Feb '14 12:25:09 AM harryhenry
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* In ''CartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'', a pagan Roman couple in the arena watch with fascination as a Christian martyr enthusiastically welcomes death by lion ("C'mon! What are you waiting for?"):

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* In ''CartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'', ''ComicBook/CartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'', a pagan Roman couple in the arena watch with fascination as a Christian martyr enthusiastically welcomes death by lion ("C'mon! What are you waiting for?"):
7th Oct '13 8:30:31 AM JIKTV
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* John Preston in ''{{Equilibrium}}'' is an interesting case. He was a loyal member of the [[ThoughtPolice Tetragrammaton]], but he understands how people who aren't on emotion suppressants act, sort of intuiting emotion. After meeting a resistance member who reminded him of his dead wife, and killing his partner for going off the emotion inhibiting drugs, he accidentally-ish broke the morning vial emotion suppressants. He''llo'' emotion!

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* John Preston in ''{{Equilibrium}}'' ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' is an interesting case. He was a loyal member of the [[ThoughtPolice Tetragrammaton]], but he understands how people who aren't on emotion suppressants act, sort of intuiting emotion. After meeting a resistance member who reminded him of his dead wife, and killing his partner for going off the emotion inhibiting drugs, he accidentally-ish broke the morning vial emotion suppressants. He''llo'' emotion!



* In ''TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'', Jack Skellington is deathly bored with running Halloween, so when he accidentally winds up in Christmasland he becomes morbidly curious as to how Christmas "works". Facing BlueAndOrangeMorality, he conducts experiments trying to [[MeasuringTheMarigolds measure the marigolds]] to quantify merriment, deduce generosity, and distill happiness. Eventually he embraces his image of the concept so thoroughly he tries to save Santa the hassle of running Christmas. It went HorriblyWrong.

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* In ''TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'', ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'', Jack Skellington is deathly bored with running Halloween, so when he accidentally winds up in Christmasland he becomes morbidly curious as to how Christmas "works". Facing BlueAndOrangeMorality, he conducts experiments trying to [[MeasuringTheMarigolds measure the marigolds]] to quantify merriment, deduce generosity, and distill happiness. Eventually he embraces his image of the concept so thoroughly he tries to save Santa the hassle of running Christmas. It went HorriblyWrong.[[GoneHorriblyWrong Horribly Wrong]].
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