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28th Nov '17 6:41:39 PM JulianLapostat
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-> ''"[Why] is the authentic culture...that of the masters and not of the slaves?"''

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-> ''"[Why] ''"This raises the question -- why is the authentic culture...that of the masters and not of the slaves?"''
28th Nov '17 6:37:35 PM JulianLapostat
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-->-- '''[[Blog/RaceForTheIronThrone Steven Attewell]]''', [[[[http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2015/02/01-laboratory-of-politics-part-vi/ A Laboratory of Politics, Part VI]]

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-->-- '''[[Blog/RaceForTheIronThrone Steven Attewell]]''', [[[[http://towerofthehand.[[http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2015/02/01-laboratory-of-politics-part-vi/ A Laboratory of Politics, Part VI]]
28th Nov '17 6:37:20 PM JulianLapostat
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-> ''"Why is the authentic culture...that of the masters and not of the slaves?"''
-->-- '''[[http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2015/02/01-laboratory-of-politics-part-vi/ Steven Attewell]]'''

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-> ''"Why ''"[Why] is the authentic culture...that of the masters and not of the slaves?"''
-->-- '''[[http://towerofthehand.'''[[Blog/RaceForTheIronThrone Steven Attewell]]''', [[[[http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2015/02/01-laboratory-of-politics-part-vi/ Steven Attewell]]'''
A Laboratory of Politics, Part VI]]
27th Sep '17 3:06:48 PM LavonPapillon1
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* Justified for Harry in ''Fanfic/ScionOfSorcery'', as he refuses to conform his magical skills and practices to that of Hogwarts curriculum (like using a wand instead of just his will) or conform to Hogwarts' arbitrary rules and traditions. This would technically be an aversion to the trope in the case of Hogwarts, as Harry has zero respect for Magical Britain's "Dark Age" way of going about everything.
28th Aug '17 4:17:08 PM GrammarNavi
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* A sketch on ''GoodnessGraciousMe'' features an Indian woman rushing into a women's shelter crying that her husband attacked her with a knife -- and the (white) woman running the shelter feels she has to make sure that the guy's after her with a kitchen knife because he's a psycho, and not with a ceremonial knife as part of something ethnic, in which case it wouldn't be her place to interfere.

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* A sketch on ''GoodnessGraciousMe'' ''Radio/GoodnessGraciousMe'' features an Indian woman rushing into a women's shelter crying that her husband attacked her with a knife -- and the (white) woman running the shelter feels she has to make sure that the guy's after her with a kitchen knife because he's a psycho, and not with a ceremonial knife as part of something ethnic, in which case it wouldn't be her place to interfere.
16th Aug '17 4:23:41 PM Give1Take2
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** The Dalish elves try to pull this off themselves ("It's not magic, it's the Keeper's Art!"), but it only works within their own culture since most non-Dalish tend to reject and vilify them. Even other elves tend to find them [[ScrewYouElves extremely haughty and arrogant.]]

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** The Dalish elves try to pull invoke this off themselves ("It's not magic, it's the Keeper's Art!"), as well ("magic is a valued part of our lost heritage"), but it only works within their own culture since most non-Dalish tend to reject and vilify them. Even other most city elves tend to find them [[ScrewYouElves extremely haughty and arrogant.]]arrogant]] at best, heathen and savage at worst (since most city elves have been converted to the Andrastian human religion).
10th Aug '17 12:08:42 PM Give1Take2
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** The Dalish elves try to pull this off themselves ("It's not magic, it's the Keeper's Art!"), but it only works within their own culture since most non-Dalish tend to vilify them as heathens and savages. Even other elves tend to find them [[ScrewYouElves extremely haughty and arrogant.]]
** Mages are treated with outright terror and hostility outside [[TheMagocracy Tevinter]], because of how powerful and susceptible to possession most mages are. In Southern Thedas, this has led to [[TheChurch The Chantry's]] [[MageTower Circle prison]] and [[AntiMagicalFaction Templar]] jailer system, which allows many Templars to abuse their mage charges. Most characters will defend it as an accepted cultural practice, and/or claim the Circles and Templars are protecting mages from the common folk who're so terrified of mages they'll lynch them on sight. [[DeliberateValuesDissonance Few characters question the Chantry]] ''[[DeliberateValuesDissonance encouraging]]'' [[DeliberateValuesDissonance common citizens to fear mages, and then presenting themselves as saviors for imprisoning them.]]
** The Qunari's catch-all excuse for every questionable practice of their society. Take children from their parents at birth and raise them communally to blindly follow the Qun? It's just part of Qunari culture. Cut out the tongues of mages, put 'em in shackles their whole lives, and kill them if they leave the sight of their handlers even once? It's a Demand of the Qun -- who are ''you'', as an outsider, to question the Qun?
** Orzammar dwarves treat their [[FantasticCasteSystem "castless"]] as worse than dirt, forbidding them from finding work or housing legally and then punishing them for the crimes their lot force them to commit. [[MentorOccupationalHazard Duncan]] and the PlayerCharacter can call them out on this in the first game, but the dwarves wouldn't expect a know-nothing surfacer (or casteless) like ''you'' to understand the ancient, honorable traditions that keep Orzammar strong.

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** The Dalish elves try to pull this off themselves ("It's not magic, it's the Keeper's Art!"), but it only works within their own culture since most non-Dalish tend to reject and vilify them as heathens and savages.them. Even other elves tend to find them [[ScrewYouElves extremely haughty and arrogant.]]
** Mages Most mages are treated with outright terror and hostility outside [[TheMagocracy Tevinter]], because of how powerful and susceptible to possession most mages are. In Southern Thedas, this has led to [[TheChurch The Chantry's]] Chantry]] to form the [[MageTower Circle prison]] Circle]] and [[AntiMagicalFaction Templar]] jailer systems, legally compelling all mages to live in Circle towers under strict Templar supervision all their lives, or get killed by the same. This has, naturally, bred a lot of abuse within the system, and allowed many a sadistic or corrupt Templar to abuse, neglect, effectively lobotomize[[note]]"The Rite of Tranquility," which allows many Templars to abuse removes a mages' magic with the side effect of removing all of their mage charges. emotions, leaving them an EmptyShell. Most mages, naturally, consider being made Tranquil AFateWorseThanDeath[[/note]], and in extreme cases kill their charges with little provocation or recourse. Most characters will defend it the Circle and Templar systems as an accepted unfortunate but necessary cultural practice, and/or claim the Circles and Templars are protecting actually ''protecting'' common citizens from mages and vice-versa, since living in Circles protects mages from the common folk who're so terrified of mages they'll citizens that would lynch them on sight. out of fear. [[DeliberateValuesDissonance Few characters question the Chantry]] ''[[DeliberateValuesDissonance encouraging]]'' [[DeliberateValuesDissonance common citizens to citizens' fear of mages, and then presenting just to present themselves as saviors for necessary protectors by imprisoning them.mages.]]
** The Qunari's catch-all excuse for every questionable practice of their society. Take Taking children from their parents at birth and raise them communally to blindly follow the Qun? It's just part of Qunari culture. Cut out the tongues of mages, put 'em in shackles their whole lives, and kill them if they leave the sight of their handlers even once? It's a Demand of the Qun -- who are ''you'', as an outsider, to question the Qun?
** Orzammar dwarves treat their [[FantasticCasteSystem "castless"]] "casteless"]] as worse than dirt, forbidding forbid them from finding work or housing legally legally, and then punishing punish them for the crimes their lot force them resorting to commit. crime just to survive. [[MentorOccupationalHazard Duncan]] and the PlayerCharacter can call them out on this in the first game, but the dwarves Orzammar's elites wouldn't expect a know-nothing surfacer (or casteless) like ''you'' to understand the ancient, honorable traditions that keep Orzammar strong.
23rd Jul '17 6:21:16 PM Universalist
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* The Inhumans of Marvel ran into this problem in the post Secret Wars period. The [[Comicbook/XMen X Men]]] were being killed off by their mutagen cloud and any attempt to do anything about said cloud was seen as a massive affront to the Inhumans and an act that gets one compared to Hitler. Needless to say very few Inhumans are popular with readers and their books struggle to stay afloat outside of [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] and [[ComicBook/MoonGirlAndDevilDinosaur Moon Girl]], who do not live with the main Inhumans that cause these issues.

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* The Inhumans of Marvel ran into this problem in the post Secret Wars period. The [[Comicbook/XMen X Men]]] Men]] were being killed off by their mutagen cloud and any attempt to do anything about said cloud was seen as a massive affront to the Inhumans and an act that gets one compared to Hitler. Needless to say very few Inhumans are popular with readers and their books struggle to stay afloat outside of [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] and [[ComicBook/MoonGirlAndDevilDinosaur Moon Girl]], who do not live with the main Inhumans that cause these issues.
23rd Jul '17 6:20:54 PM Universalist
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* The Inhumans of Marvel ran into this problem in the post Secret Wars period. The [[Comicbook/XMen]]] were being killed off by their mutagen cloud and any attempt to do anything about said cloud was seen as a massive affront to the Inhumans and an act that gets one compared to Hitler. Needless to say very few Inhumans are popular with readers and their books struggle to stay afloat outside of [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] and [[ComicBook/MoonGirlAndDevilDinosaur Moon Girl]], who do not live with the main Inhumans that cause these issues.

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* The Inhumans of Marvel ran into this problem in the post Secret Wars period. The [[Comicbook/XMen]]] [[Comicbook/XMen X Men]]] were being killed off by their mutagen cloud and any attempt to do anything about said cloud was seen as a massive affront to the Inhumans and an act that gets one compared to Hitler. Needless to say very few Inhumans are popular with readers and their books struggle to stay afloat outside of [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] and [[ComicBook/MoonGirlAndDevilDinosaur Moon Girl]], who do not live with the main Inhumans that cause these issues.
9th Jul '17 4:35:20 AM KrspaceT
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* The Inhumans of Marvel ran into this problem in the post Secret Wars period. The [[Comicbook/XMen]]] were being killed off by their mutagen cloud and any attempt to do anything about said cloud was seen as a massive affront to the Inhumans and an act that gets one compared to Hitler.

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* The Inhumans of Marvel ran into this problem in the post Secret Wars period. The [[Comicbook/XMen]]] were being killed off by their mutagen cloud and any attempt to do anything about said cloud was seen as a massive affront to the Inhumans and an act that gets one compared to Hitler. Needless to say very few Inhumans are popular with readers and their books struggle to stay afloat outside of [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] and [[ComicBook/MoonGirlAndDevilDinosaur Moon Girl]], who do not live with the main Inhumans that cause these issues.
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