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16th Aug '17 4:41:15 AM ArcaneAzmadi
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* The critical backlash that boy band ''Music/NewKidsontheBlock'' received was especially notable, even noted on Wikipedia. A combination of massive overexposure (at one point, they even had their own Saturday morning cartoon, for crying out loud), criticism for using pre-recorded backing vocals live (which was likely only an issue due to the then-recent ''Music/Milli Vanilli'' lip-synching scandal), as well as a shift towards the rising trends of grunge and gansta rap left this blue-eyed urban contemporary act to start receiving massive hatedom. By 1991, their popularity was in the toilet. Eventually, they too would be seen as nostalgic. They ven combined with the Backstreet Boys to create the supergroup NKOTBSB, which turned a profitable tour in the early 2010s.
** Music/FrankSinatra was the original teen idol in the 1940s. Most of his songs of that period were hated by men across the globe, because girls went crazy over him. Yet as TimeMarchesOn and Sinatra became more associated with a mature adult singing about more world-wise topics these songs from early in his career have been judged on their own merits and are actually quite good. In fact his voice never sounded better.

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* The critical backlash that boy band ''Music/NewKidsontheBlock'' ''Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock'' received was especially notable, even noted on Wikipedia. A combination of massive overexposure (at one point, they even had their own Saturday morning cartoon, for crying out loud), criticism for using pre-recorded backing vocals live (which was likely only an issue due to the then-recent ''Music/Milli Vanilli'' ''Music/MilliVanilli'' lip-synching scandal), as well as a shift towards the rising trends of grunge and gansta rap left this blue-eyed urban contemporary act to start receiving massive hatedom. By 1991, their popularity was in the toilet. Eventually, they too would be seen as nostalgic. They ven combined with the Backstreet Boys to create the supergroup NKOTBSB, which turned a profitable tour in the early 2010s.
** * Music/FrankSinatra was the original teen idol in the 1940s. Most of his songs of that period were hated by men across the globe, because girls went crazy over him. Yet as TimeMarchesOn and Sinatra became more associated with a mature adult singing about more world-wise topics these songs from early in his career have been judged on their own merits and are actually quite good. In fact his voice never sounded better.
4th Aug '17 2:10:54 PM The_Nemesis
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* ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' has generally always received a good response from critics, but when it was released it was 'loudly' savaged by fans who were upset that it wasn't ChronoTrigger 2. It had brand new characters, a brand new world, brand new combat and magic systems (save for Trigger's trademark CombinationAttack techs), and the only real references to its predecessor were oblique, unnecessary fanservice, entirely missable, or the GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere final boss. Nothing that made Chrono Trigger a beloved classic was readily apparent in Cross' design, production, or play. In time, the fan stance softened and Cross is now regarded as one of the best RPGs of the Playstation 1 era and an excellent game in its own right. Modern consensus tends to be that the "Chrono" name was more of a burden than a boon, and that Cross didn't need the pressure of living up to Trigger when it was never really making any strong attempt to connect itself to begin with (the developers have always been adamant that it was meant to be a loose sequel. Cross was its own game with small ties to its predecessor, and was never intended to be a continuation of Trigger's story, or require people to have played Trigger to understand the plot, or to feature a rehash of Trigger's best elements).

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* ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' has generally always received a good response from critics, but when it was released it was 'loudly' ''loudly'' savaged by fans who were upset that it wasn't ChronoTrigger 2. It had brand new characters, a brand new world, brand new combat and magic systems (save for Trigger's trademark CombinationAttack techs), and the only real references to its predecessor were oblique, unnecessary fanservice, entirely missable, or the GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere final boss. Nothing that made Chrono Trigger a beloved classic was readily apparent in Cross' design, production, or play. In time, the fan stance softened and Cross is now regarded as one of the best RPGs of the Playstation 1 era and an excellent game in its own right. Modern consensus tends to be that the "Chrono" name was more of a burden than a boon, and that Cross didn't need the pressure of living up to Trigger when it was never really making any strong attempt to connect itself to begin with (the developers have always been adamant that it was meant to be a loose sequel. Cross was its own game with small ties to its predecessor, and was never intended to be a continuation of Trigger's story, or require people to have played Trigger to understand the plot, or to feature a rehash of Trigger's best elements).
4th Aug '17 2:09:33 PM The_Nemesis
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* ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' has generally always received a good response from critics, but when it was released it was 'loudly' savaged by fans who were upset that it wasn't ChronoTrigger 2. It had brand new characters, a brand new world, brand new combat and magic systems (save for Trigger's trademark CombinationAttack techs), and the only real references to its predecessor were oblique, unnecessary fanservice, entirely missable, or the GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere final boss. Nothing that made Chrono Trigger a beloved classic was readily apparent in Cross' design, production, or play. In time, the fan stance softened and Cross is now regarded as one of the best RPGs of the Playstation 1 era and an excellent game in its own right. Modern consensus tends to be that the "Chrono" name was more of a burden than a boon, and that Cross didn't need the pressure of living up to Trigger when it was never really making any strong attempt to connect itself to begin with (the developers have always been adamant that it was meant to be a loose sequel. Cross was its own game with small ties to its predecessor, and was never intended to be a continuation of Trigger's story, or require people to have played Trigger to understand the plot, or to feature a rehash of Trigger's best elements).
4th Aug '17 12:15:40 AM The_Nemesis
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*** Even ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' itself was a victim of this when it debuted. angry fans rejected the tiny cast of brand new characters, the handful of LegacyCharacter candidates such as Optimus and Megatron who they felt were InNameOnly knockoffs of iconic and popular G1 characters, and especially the shift from vehicle and technology based alternate modes to animal ones (with early Transformers discussion groups coining the meme [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trukk_not_munky "Trukk not Munky"]] to refer to sharp, critical reactions of fans who bemoaned such changes to the franchise). Early story plots were also often disliked for their simplicity or "lesson of the day" type formats. It took until the end of the first season and into the second before reactions softened and fans began to embrace the series' positives, to the point of it becoming perhaps the most praised incarnation of the franchise in terms of its characterization and story.

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*** Even ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' itself was a victim of this when it debuted. angry Angry fans rejected the tiny cast of brand new characters, the handful of LegacyCharacter candidates such as Optimus and Megatron who they felt were considered InNameOnly knockoffs of iconic and popular G1 characters, and especially the shift from vehicle and technology based alternate modes to animal ones (with early Transformers discussion groups coining the meme [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trukk_not_munky "Trukk not Munky"]] to refer to sharp, critical reactions of fans who bemoaned such changes to mock the franchise). backlash). Early story plots were also often disliked for their simplicity or "lesson of the day" type formats. It took until the end of the first season and into the second before reactions softened and fans began to embrace the series' positives, to the point of it becoming perhaps the most praised incarnation of the franchise in terms of its characterization and story.
4th Aug '17 12:12:31 AM The_Nemesis
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***Even ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' itself was a victim of this when it debuted. angry fans rejected the tiny cast of brand new characters, the handful of LegacyCharacter candidates such as Optimus and Megatron who they felt were InNameOnly knockoffs of iconic and popular G1 characters, and especially the shift from vehicle and technology based alternate modes to animal ones (with early Transformers discussion groups coining the meme [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trukk_not_munky "Trukk not Munky"]] to refer to sharp, critical reactions of fans who bemoaned such changes to the franchise). Early story plots were also often disliked for their simplicity or "lesson of the day" type formats. It took until the end of the first season and into the second before reactions softened and fans began to embrace the series' positives, to the point of it becoming perhaps the most praised incarnation of the franchise in terms of its characterization and story.
1st Jul '17 9:14:41 AM PrincessGwen
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** ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' as well. It has a vocal hatedom because it uses the same gameplay mechanics as ''Sticker Star'', but many people who originally hated it on reveal were won over when it turned out to have fixed the biggest of ''Sticker Star'''s flaws (namely the GuideDangIt gameplay, lack of meaning to battles and the generic locations). There are also some who think it's flaws are getting overblown and the NostalgiaFilter for the [[VideoGame/PaperMario64 first]] [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor two]] games is minimising their flaws.

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** ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' as well. It has a vocal hatedom because it uses the same gameplay mechanics as ''Sticker Star'', but many people who originally hated it on reveal were won over when it turned out to have fixed the biggest of ''Sticker Star'''s flaws (namely the GuideDangIt gameplay, lack of meaning to battles and the generic locations). There are also some who think it's its flaws are getting overblown and the NostalgiaFilter for the [[VideoGame/PaperMario64 first]] [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor two]] games is minimising their flaws.
1st Jul '17 8:56:00 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** This was finally played straight with the Kalos League finals towards the end of the XY series however. Many fans of the series, both young and old, had grown tired of Ash [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption never winning a league]] even after 20 years. When he finally got to the league in Kalos, there were hints both in-universe and out that he would finally win, and he made it to the finals against one of his newest rivals Alain. However, despite fans wishes, Ash still lost the final battle, even though he seemed to have the advantage, and once again lost the champion title when he was closer than ever before. Fans reacted negatively overnight, both in Japan and the U.S, and proclaimed that not only did this ruin the XY series, but the whole franchise. Many fans grew even worse when Ash [[spoiler:released Greninja, a fan-favirote pokemon and considered his best in the series, in the penultimate episode of the XY series]]. This was so bad that several fans still hate this moment to this day and refuse to watch the anime anymore, citing these two moments have killed the anime entirely, and aren't impressed with Sun and Moon either.
1st Jul '17 8:51:58 AM mario0987
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** ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' as well. It has a vocal hatedom because it uses the same gameplay mechanics as ''Sticker Star'', but many people who originally hated it on reveal were won over when it turned out to have fixed the biggest of ''Sticker Star'''s flaws (namely the GuideDangIt gameplay, lack of meaning to battles and the generic locations). There are also some who think it's flaws are getting overblown and the NostalgiaFilter for the [[VideoGame/PaperMario64 first]] [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor two]] games is minimising their flaws.
27th Jun '17 8:25:28 AM EverythingisAwful
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** And then ''[[Film/TransformersAgeOfExtinction Age of Extinction]]'' got even '''''worse''''' reviews than ''Revenge of the Fallen'' and still recorded a ten-figure worldwide gross, albeit slightly smaller than ''Dark of the Moon''.

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** And then ''[[Film/TransformersAgeOfExtinction Age of Extinction]]'' got even '''''worse''''' reviews than ''Revenge of the Fallen'' and still recorded a ten-figure worldwide gross, albeit slightly smaller than ''Dark of the Moon''. Fans also seemed to be lighter on this movie, as it gave much more focus on the Transformers themselves and for having interesting and likable Autobots as leads, especially with Optimus' character arc.
26th Jun '17 12:46:33 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* ''Film/SuperMarioBros'': it's the UrExample of VideoGameMoviesSuck, but some people who have looked at it from a different angle (not expecting a direct adaptation, not [[ReviewsAreTheGospel listening to the Nostalgia Critic's word for it]] for once) actually don't find it to be ''that'' bad -- some even think it's actually pretty good.

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* ''Film/SuperMarioBros'': it's the UrExample of VideoGameMoviesSuck, but some people who have looked at it from a different angle (not expecting a direct adaptation, not [[ReviewsAreTheGospel listening to the Nostalgia Critic's word for it]] for once) actually don't find it to be ''that'' bad -- some even think it's actually pretty good.good if treated as a self-contained story divorced from the source material... [[InNameOnly which, admittedly, isn't that hard to do]].
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