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12th Jan '18 6:18:42 PM nombretomado
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''Please note that this page is not a personal blog to discuss your personal experiences of this; this page is all about the general properties which tend to receive this treatment. Also remember that this is YMMV; seeing something you hate here only means that other people may not hate it as much as you do, not that it doesn't have points worth of criticism, so try to resist the urge to make a JustifyingEdit.''

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''Please note that this page is not a personal blog to discuss your personal experiences of this; this page is all about the general properties which tend to receive this treatment. Also remember that this is YMMV; seeing something you hate here only means that other people may not hate it as much as you do, not that it doesn't have points worth of criticism, so try to resist the urge to make a JustifyingEdit.Administrivia/JustifyingEdit.''
31st Dec '17 1:10:28 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* ''Film/ManosTheHandsOfFate'' got a reputation as "THE worst movie of all time" after it was shown on ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'', causing Dr. Forrester to ''apologize'' for showing it to Joel. It's probably easier to agree with it if you haven't already heard it.

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* ''Film/ManosTheHandsOfFate'' got a reputation as "THE worst movie of all time" after it was shown on ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'', causing Dr. Forrester to ''apologize'' for showing it to Joel. It's probably easier to agree with it if you haven't already heard it. Any fan of ''MST3K'' will readily confirm that it's hardly the worst movie they had ever mocked.
19th Dec '17 7:55:17 AM BeerBaron
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* Many in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' community will lead you to believe that ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' will insult your parents and rip out your brain and shit on it before stabbing you in the nads. This is only a natural cycle...they said the ''exact'' same thing about ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', only for most of the fanbase to drop that when ''Oblivion'' came out and gave them a new target.
** See also ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Like above, the previous game, ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'', receives its 'fair' share, as well. Apparently [[SarcasmMode consoles ruined RPGs forever]], as has been said of this game, ''Oblivion'' and ''Morrowind''. (The ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' fandom being described as "[[UnpleasableFanbase glittering gems of hatred]]" doesn't help.)

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* Many in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' community will lead you to believe that ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' will insult your parents and rip out your brain and shit on it before stabbing you in the nads. This is only a natural cycle...they said the ''exact'' same thing about ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', only for most series has this happen with seemingly each new installment. Fans of the fanbase series tend to drop that when ''Oblivion'' came out judge each new game against whichever game they were introduced to the series with, sort of their own personal version of FirstInstallmentWins. Given Creator/{{Bethesda}}'s tendency to build each installment from the ground up with wholesale changes from its predecessor, this leads to serious BrokenBase issues and gave them a new target.
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claims of {{Contested Sequel}}s.
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See also ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Like above, ''The Elder Scrolls'', the previous game, ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'', receives its 'fair' share, as well. Apparently [[SarcasmMode consoles ruined RPGs forever]], as has been said of this game, ''Oblivion'' ''Oblivion'', and ''Morrowind''. (The ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' fandom being described as "[[UnpleasableFanbase glittering gems of hatred]]" doesn't help.)
14th Dec '17 2:46:57 PM Anddrix
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* ''Aaru's Awakening'' is considered by Website/GameFAQs to be [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/mac/129192-aarus-awakening the worst game ever made]]. The sheer fact that it has an actual and consistent art style and storyline would however place it above many DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible works. On Metacritic you can see [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/aarus-awakening the hatred]] in full-swing. While critics were polarized by it, it's considered LoveItOrHateIt, with most of them citing that it has a good art-style, but that there are issues with the controls and gameplay, but Metacritic users still decided that it was worth spamming floods of negative reviews to.

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* ''Aaru's Awakening'' is considered by Website/GameFAQs to be [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/mac/129192-aarus-awakening the worst game ever made]]. The sheer fact that it has an actual and consistent art style and storyline would however place it above many DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible works. On Metacritic you can see [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/aarus-awakening the hatred]] in full-swing. While critics were polarized by it, it's considered LoveItOrHateIt, divisive, with most of them citing that it has a good art-style, but that there are issues with the controls and gameplay, but Metacritic users still decided that it was worth spamming floods of negative reviews to.
8th Dec '17 10:05:15 PM AguFungus
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** ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' as well. It has a vocal hatedom because it uses the same gameplay mechanics as ''Sticker Star'', but many people who originally hated it on reveal were won over when it turned out to have fixed the biggest of ''Sticker Star'''s flaws (namely the GuideDangIt gameplay, lack of meaning to battles and the generic locations). There are also some who think its flaws are getting overblown and the NostalgiaFilter for the [[VideoGame/PaperMario64 first]] [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor two]] games is minimising ''their'' flaws.

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** ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' as well. It has a vocal hatedom because it uses the same gameplay mechanics as ''Sticker Star'', but many people who originally hated it on reveal were won over when it turned out to have fixed the biggest of ''Sticker Star'''s flaws (namely the GuideDangIt gameplay, lack of meaning to battles and the generic locations). There are also some who think its flaws are getting overblown and the NostalgiaFilter for the [[VideoGame/PaperMario64 first]] [[VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor two]] games is minimising ''their'' flaws. However, because it still retains [[NeverLiveItDown some of the problems of its predecessor]] (such as lack of character variety, Bowser still as the BigBad, quality of the battle system, no partners...), the quality of this game is still [[ContestedSequel rather contested]], as opposed to the former which is already hit with {{Sequelitis}}.



* In a similar situation to ''Zelda II'', the western ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' is often derided for being a DolledUpInstallment of ''VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic'', odd mechanics and not being as much memorable than its [[SophomoreSlump predecessor and successor]]. This installment was also released in Japan under the title ''Super Mario Bros. USA'' and made it on Famitsu's [[http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2012/02/top-100-famicom-games-as-voted-by.html Top 100 Famicom games]] at #45 all the while ''Doki Doki Panic'' was absent (What's more, Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto himself surprised many by revealing it to be among his favorites). It doesn't help that ''Doki Doki Panic'' itself [[MerchandiseDriven was meant as a commercial for Fuji Television]].

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* In a similar situation to ''Zelda II'', the western ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2'' is often derided for being a DolledUpInstallment of ''VideoGame/DokiDokiPanic'', odd mechanics and not being as much memorable than its [[SophomoreSlump predecessor and successor]]. This installment was also released in Japan under the title ''Super Mario Bros. USA'' and made it on Famitsu's [[http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2012/02/top-100-famicom-games-as-voted-by.html Top 100 Famicom games]] at #45 all the while ''Doki Doki Panic'' was absent (What's more, Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto himself surprised many by revealing it to be among his favorites). It doesn't help that ''Doki Doki Panic'' itself [[MerchandiseDriven was meant as a commercial for Fuji Television]].
8th Nov '17 11:48:43 AM EverythingisAwful
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* ''Film/Alien3'' was initially unloved when released in 1992, the big factor for this was the sudden deaths of Newt and Hicks, who became beloved characters in the previous film Others also critiqued the dark, dreary, and depressing story and various problems with the film, and even director David Fincher disowned it. However, in recent years the film has undergone a reevaluation thanks to the Assembly Cut of the movie on blu-ray, which restores many scenes of character development for most of the main cast as well as subtle development for the supporting prisoners, changes the Alien's host from a dog to an Ox, puts greater emphasis on the themes of religion and redemption the film was going for, and reveals the fates of two important characters, Junior and Golic, [[WhateverHappenedToTheMouse: who simply vanish in the theatrical cut]]. Thanks to this cut the film has been seen by some Alien fans as an underrated entry in the franchise and a decent way to end the original trilogy and Ripley's story, and many feel that had it not been for the ExecutiveMeddling which led constant recuts, and had something along the lines of the Assembly Cut ended up in theaters, the film's reputation wouldn't have been so sour. The new version of the film's reevaluation is helped in light of the sub-par quality films that followed and the fear some fans have of the currently in DevelopmentHell Alien film helmed by Neill Blomkamp, which many fans fear will be nothing more than a clone of ''Aliens'' and will be a action flick that dumbs down the titular threat. While the film's reputation has improved significantly from what it once was, the newfound praise is by no means universal and David Fincher still refuses to have anything to do with it, though it has more to do with his horrible experience with the studio than the film itself.

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* ''Film/Alien3'' was initially unloved when released in 1992, the big factor for this was the sudden deaths of Newt and Hicks, who became beloved characters in the previous film Others also critiqued the dark, dreary, and depressing story and various problems with the film, and even director David Fincher disowned it. However, in recent years the film has undergone a reevaluation thanks to the Assembly Cut of the movie on blu-ray, which restores many scenes of character development for most of the main cast as well as subtle development for the supporting prisoners, changes the Alien's host from a dog to an Ox, puts greater emphasis on the themes of religion and redemption the film was going for, and reveals the fates of two important characters, Junior and Golic, [[WhateverHappenedToTheMouse: [[WhateverHappenedToTheMouse who simply vanish in the theatrical cut]]. Thanks to this cut the film has been seen by some Alien fans as an underrated entry in the franchise and a decent way to end the original trilogy and Ripley's story, and many feel that had it not been for the ExecutiveMeddling which led constant recuts, and had something along the lines of the Assembly Cut ended up in theaters, the film's reputation wouldn't have been so sour. The new version of the film's reevaluation is helped in light of the sub-par quality films that followed and the fear some fans have of the currently in DevelopmentHell Alien film helmed by Neill Blomkamp, which many fans fear will be nothing more than a clone of ''Aliens'' and will be a action flick that dumbs down the titular threat. While the film's reputation has improved significantly from what it once was, the newfound praise is by no means universal and David Fincher still refuses to have anything to do with it, though it has more to do with his horrible experience with the studio than the film itself.
8th Nov '17 11:47:03 AM EverythingisAwful
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* ''Film/Alien3'' was initially unloved when released in 1992, the big factor for this was the sudden deaths of Newt and Hicks, who became beloved characters in the previous film Others also critiqued the dark, dreary, and depressing story and various problems with the film, and even director David Fincher disowned it. However, in recent years the film has undergone a reevaluation thanks to the Assembly Cut of the movie on blu-ray, which restores many scenes of character development for most of the main cast as well as subtle development for the supporting prisoners, changes the Alien's host from a dog to an Ox, puts greater emphasis on the themes of religion and redemption the film was going for, and reveals the fates of two important characters, Junior and Golic, [[WhateverHappenedToTheMouse: who simply vanish in the theatrical cut]]. Thanks to this cut the film has been seen by some Alien fans as an underrated entry in the franchise and a decent way to end the original trilogy and Ripley's story, and many feel that had it not been for the ExecutiveMeddling which led constant recuts, and had something along the lines of the Assembly Cut ended up in theaters, the film's reputation wouldn't have been so sour. The new version of the film's reevaluation is helped in light of the sub-par quality films that followed and the fear some fans have of the currently in DevelopmentHell Alien film helmed by Neill Blomkamp, which many fans fear will be nothing more than a clone of ''Aliens'' and will be a action flick that dumbs down the titular threat. While the film's reputation has improved significantly from what it once was, the newfound praise is by no means universal and David Fincher still refuses to have anything to do with it, though it has more to do with his horrible experience with the studio than the film itself.



* For how much hate the ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' series got from TheMovie, many people have come to see it more along the lines of "Not too bad" instead of "It rivals ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' for badness". Part of the reason is that some people now watch the film less as a standalone work, and more of as a pilot for the animated series. The television show has been applauded in several circles and the initially hated Ahsoka has become a beloved character.

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* For how much hate the ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' series got from TheMovie, many people have come to see it more along the lines of "Not too bad" instead of "It rivals ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' for badness". Part of the reason is that some people now watch the film less as a standalone work, and more of as a pilot for the animated series. The television show has been applauded in several circles went on to be critically acclaimed and the initially hated Ahsoka has become a beloved character.
7th Nov '17 7:10:41 AM TheDudeWhoAbides
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* For how much hate ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' got from TheMovie, many people have come to see it more along the lines of "Not too bad" instead of "It rivals ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' for badness". Part of the reason for this is that most people now watch it less as a standalone movie, and more of a pilot for the highly regarded animated series. The television show has been applauded in several circles and the initially hated Ahsoka has become a beloved character.

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* For how much hate the ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' series got from TheMovie, many people have come to see it more along the lines of "Not too bad" instead of "It rivals ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' for badness". Part of the reason for this is that most some people now watch it the film less as a standalone movie, work, and more of as a pilot for the highly regarded animated series. The television show has been applauded in several circles and the initially hated Ahsoka has become a beloved character.
7th Nov '17 6:29:58 AM TheDudeWhoAbides
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* Every ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' game made since 1995. ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'' gets hit especially by this hard from IGN and [=GameSpot's=] (quite unfair) reviews, which made it all the more [[EightPointEight ridiculous]] when ''Sonic Unleashed'' got ''worse'' reviews from those sites than the much-maligned ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006''.
** ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' itself. While it isn't a good game (necessarily), it's no longer regarded as the absolute nadir of the franchise. In fact, some people say it's actually a solid game.
* ''VideoGame/UnrealTournamentIII'' was an ObviousBeta at launch. However, its gameplay isn't as bad as the fans of previous installments make it seem, and, with the advent of the Black Edition, it was improved in just about every sense possible. It's worthy of a high place in the series.

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* Every ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' game made since 1995. ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'' gets hit especially by this hard from IGN by IGN's and [=GameSpot's=] (quite unfair) GameSpot's reviews, which made it all the more [[EightPointEight ridiculous]] ridiculous when ''Sonic Unleashed'' got ''worse'' reviews from those sites than the much-maligned ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006''.
** ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' itself. While it isn't generally a good game (necessarily), game, it's no longer regarded as the absolute nadir of the franchise. In fact, some people say it's actually a solid speed game.
* ''VideoGame/UnrealTournamentIII'' was an ObviousBeta at launch. However, its gameplay isn't as bad as the fans of previous installments make it seem, and, with the advent of the Black Edition, it was improved in just about every sense possible. It's worthy of a high place in the series.



* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' gets a lot of flak from the fanbase for, among other things [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks being too similar to]] ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', sometimes even calling it a rip-off, despite WBM having Rocksteady's full approval and [[FanonDiscontinuity some consider it to be non-canon for its supposed horribleness]]. Yet it got only slightly lower scores than the original two games, many feel like it has the best story in the series and that its boss fights rocked.
* On a smaller scale, ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight''. It got good reviews, it is highly rated in the PS Store, yet a lot of gamers claim that it was simply terrible. People also like to exaggerate the amount of Batmobile. Yes, it is required for some sections, but 80% of the game being controlling the Batmobile is just BlatantLies. However, [[PortingDisaster criticism of the PC version is justified.]][[/folder]]

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* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' gets a lot of flak from the fanbase for, among other things things, [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks being too similar to]] ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', sometimes ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' (some even calling it a rip-off, rip-off), despite WBM having Rocksteady's full approval and approval. [[FanonDiscontinuity some Some also consider it to be non-canon for its supposed horribleness]]. Yet Yet, it got only slightly lower scores than the original two games, many and some players feel like it has the best story in the series and that its had badass boss fights rocked.
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* On a smaller scale, ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight''. It got good reviews, it is highly rated in the PS Store, yet a lot of gamers claim that it was simply terrible. People also like to exaggerate the amount of Batmobile. Batmobile in the game. Yes, it is required for some sections, but 80% of the game being spent controlling the Batmobile is just BlatantLies. However, [[PortingDisaster criticism of the PC version is justified.]][[/folder]]
7th Nov '17 6:08:36 AM TheDudeWhoAbides
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* ''VideoGame/UnrealTournamentIII'' was an ObviousBeta at launch. However, its gameplay isn't as bad as the fans of previous installments make it seem, and, with the advent of the Black Edition, it was improved in just about every sense possible. It's worthy of a high place in the series.
* When the PC version of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' was released on Steam in 2013, many who played it (including those who played for the first time ever) didn't think it was as bad as the hatedom says that it is.
* ''VideoGame/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink'' has been one of the most [[BrokenBase divisive games ever]], due in no small part to the GenreShift and [[NintendoHard difficulty]]. While there are a few issues, namely limited lives, instant deaths, and reset experience, the game still controls incredibly well for an early-to-mid NES game, and predated many Metroidvania games with RPG elements (in the US at least). Still, [[NeverLiveItDown the game gets hate]] for [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks "not being Zelda enough"]], over two decades after the fact, even though there has never been another ''Zelda'' like it since.



* Okay, ''VideoGame/UnrealTournamentIII'' was an ObviousBeta at the launch moment, which played a bit against it, critically speaking, in the beginning. It isn't ''VideoGame/UnrealTournament'' or ''VideoGame/UnrealTournament2004''. However, its gameplay isn't as bad as the fans of previous installments make it seem, and with the advent of the Black Edition, it was just improved in any sense possible, and it's actually worth of a high place in the series' quality.
* When the PC version of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' was released on Steam in 2013, many who played it (including those who played for the first time ever) didn't think it was as bad as the hatedom says that it is.
* ''VideoGame/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink'' has been one of the most [[BrokenBase divisive games ever]], due in no small part to the GenreShift and [[NintendoHard difficulty]]. While there are a few issues, namely limited lives, instant deaths, and reset experience, the game still controls incredibly well for an early-to-mid NES game, and predated many Metroidvania games with RPG elements (in the US at least). Still, [[NeverLiveItDown the game gets hate]] for [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks "not being Zelda enough"]], over two decades after the fact, even though there has never been another ''Zelda'' like it since.
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