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15th Oct '17 12:18:52 PM Gosicrystal
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The opposite of HypeBacklash, critical backlash is what you get when something is over-criticized and condemned to the extent that it couldn't ''possibly'' be as terrible as everyone it makes out to be. Like hype backlash, it's yet more proof that the critics aren't always necessarily correct, and QualityByPopularVote isn't always a reliable indicator of something's merits (or lack thereof).

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The opposite of HypeBacklash, critical backlash is what you get when something is over-criticized and condemned to the extent that it couldn't ''possibly'' be as terrible as everyone it makes it out to be. Like hype backlash, it's yet more proof that the critics aren't always necessarily correct, and QualityByPopularVote isn't always a reliable indicator of something's merits (or lack thereof).
20th Sep '17 1:27:53 AM bt8257
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* Music/{{Megadeth}}'s ''Youthanasia'' and ''Cryptic Writings'' experienced this to the point where they are now considered great albums. Risk is on the verge of it, the album being the butt of jokes even though Dave Mustaine corrected a lot of the ExecutiveMeddling when he remixed and remastered it in 2004. In a reversal of the situation, the once–well-received 'return to form album' ''The World Needs a Hero'' is now considered lackluster.
* Adam Buckley of ''WebVideo/ADoseOfBuckley'' makes reference to this effect on his 'Musical Autopsy' and 10 Worst Songs of the Year videos when he's deluged with comments asking why X, Y, or Z song isn't on his list by replying that musically and lyrically a particular song ''isn't actually that bad'', that there is a difference between a bad song and an ''[[HypeBacklash overplayed]]'' song ("If you had to hear the same Mozart song six times a day, seven days a week, for three months, you’d be pretty fucking sick of it too"), or that he simply can't [[SoOkayItsAverage think of anything funny to say about it]].

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* Music/{{Megadeth}}'s ''Youthanasia'' and ''Cryptic Writings'' experienced this to the point where they are now considered great albums. Risk ''Risk'' is on the verge of it, the album being the butt of jokes even though Dave Mustaine corrected a lot of the ExecutiveMeddling when he remixed and remastered it in 2004. In a reversal of the situation, the once–well-received once well-received 'return to form album' ''The World Needs a Hero'' is now considered lackluster.
* Adam Buckley of ''WebVideo/ADoseOfBuckley'' makes reference to this effect on his 'Musical Autopsy' and 10 Worst Songs of the Year videos when he's deluged with comments asking why X, Y, or Z song isn't on his list by replying that musically and lyrically a particular song ''isn't actually that bad'', that there is a difference between a bad song and an ''[[HypeBacklash overplayed]]'' song ("If you had to hear the same Mozart song six times a day, seven days a week, for three months, you’d be pretty fucking sick of it too"), or that he simply can't [[SoOkayItsAverage think of anything funny to say about it]].



* The critical backlash that boy band ''Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock'' received was especially notable, even noted on Wikipedia. A combination of massive overexposure (at one point, they even had their own Saturday morning cartoon, for crying out loud), criticism for using pre-recorded backing vocals live (which was likely only an issue due to the then-recent ''Music/MilliVanilli'' lip-synching scandal), as well as a shift towards the rising trends of grunge and gansta rap left this blue-eyed urban contemporary act to start receiving massive hatedom. By 1991, their popularity was in the toilet. Eventually, they too would be seen as nostalgic. They ven combined with the Backstreet Boys to create the supergroup NKOTBSB, which turned a profitable tour in the early 2010s.

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* The critical backlash that boy band ''Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock'' received was especially notable, even noted on Wikipedia. A combination of massive overexposure (at one point, they even had their own Saturday morning cartoon, for crying out loud), criticism for using pre-recorded backing vocals live (which was likely only an issue due to the then-recent ''Music/MilliVanilli'' lip-synching scandal), as well as a shift towards the rising trends of grunge and gansta rap left this blue-eyed urban contemporary act to start receiving massive hatedom. By 1991, their popularity was in the toilet. Eventually, they too would be seen as nostalgic. They ven even combined with the Backstreet Boys to create the supergroup super-group NKOTBSB, which turned a profitable tour in the early 2010s.
20th Sep '17 12:36:02 AM bt8257
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** The first example was ''Disney/AliceInWonderland''. It was trashed by critics - many of whom villified Disney for "Americanising a great work of British literature" - and bombed at the Box Office, Walt himself even disowning the final film. But it found popularity in the 1960s with stoners and steadily opinion softened towards it. By the 1990s, it was included in the Walt Disney Classics collection.

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** The first example was ''Disney/AliceInWonderland''. It was trashed by critics - many of whom villified vilified Disney for "Americanising a great work of British literature" - and bombed at the Box Office, Walt himself even disowning the final film. But it found popularity in the 1960s with stoners and steadily opinion softened towards it. By the 1990s, it was included in the Walt Disney Classics collection.



* On lists of Worst Best Picture Winners, ''Literature/OrdinaryPeople'' is often given a high rating. But this is possibly because it beat ''Film/RagingBull'' to the Best Picture Oscar. The film itself is a very subtle, quietly moving film that doesn't deserve the almighty kicking it gets.

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* On lists of Worst Best Picture Winners, ''Literature/OrdinaryPeople'' is often given a high rating. But this This is possibly because most likely due to it beat ''Film/RagingBull'' to winning the Best Picture Oscar.Oscar instead of ''Film/RagingBull''. The film itself is a very subtle, quietly moving film that doesn't deserve the almighty kicking it gets.
29th Aug '17 12:37:16 PM HalcyonDayz
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* ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' has generally always received a good response from critics, but when it was released it was ''loudly'' savaged by fans who were upset that it wasn't ChronoTrigger 2. It had brand new characters, a brand new world, brand new combat and magic systems (save for Trigger's trademark CombinationAttack techs), and the only real references to its predecessor were oblique, unnecessary fanservice, entirely missable, or the GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere final boss. Nothing that made Chrono Trigger a beloved classic was readily apparent in Cross' design, production, or play. In time, the fan stance softened and Cross is now regarded as one of the best RPGs of the Playstation 1 era and an excellent game in its own right. Modern consensus tends to be that the "Chrono" name was more of a burden than a boon, and that Cross didn't need the pressure of living up to Trigger when it was never really making any strong attempt to connect itself to begin with (the developers have always been adamant that it was meant to be a loose sequel. Cross was its own game with small ties to its predecessor, and was never intended to be a continuation of Trigger's story, or require people to have played Trigger to understand the plot, or to feature a rehash of Trigger's best elements).

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* ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' has generally always received a good response from critics, but when it was released it was ''loudly'' savaged by fans who were upset that it wasn't ChronoTrigger 2. It had brand new characters, a brand new world, brand new combat and magic systems (save for Trigger's trademark CombinationAttack techs), and the only real references to its predecessor were oblique, unnecessary fanservice, entirely missable, or the GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere final boss. Nothing that made Chrono Trigger a beloved classic was readily apparent in Cross' design, production, or play. In time, the fan stance softened and Cross is now regarded as one of the best RPGs [=RPGs=] of the Playstation 1 era and an excellent game in its own right. Modern consensus tends to be that the "Chrono" name was more of a burden than a boon, and that Cross didn't need the pressure of living up to Trigger when it was never really making any strong attempt to connect itself to begin with (the developers have always been adamant that it was meant to be a loose sequel. Cross was its own game with small ties to its predecessor, and was never intended to be a continuation of Trigger's story, or require people to have played Trigger to understand the plot, or to feature a rehash of Trigger's best elements).



* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'': The show has a massive hatedom who often decry it for its parodies and flanderizations of the characters from the original show, as well as being more meanspirited than the original series. Despite this, some critics have given it decent reviews, and it even has a large regular fanbase. Even several casual viewers have watched it, and while hardly considering it a masterpiece, don't consider it to be the worst thing ever made.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'': The show has a massive hatedom who often decry it for its parodies and flanderizations of the characters from the original show, as well as being more meanspirited mean-spirited than the original series. Despite this, some critics have given it decent reviews, and it even has a large regular fanbase. Even several casual viewers have watched it, and while hardly considering it a masterpiece, don't consider it to be the worst thing ever made.
21st Aug '17 3:11:02 AM VenomousSeal
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* the original dub of Anime/SailorMoon. You'd think it was something that has a 0%ApprovalRating with the amount of negative comments on this very site. However, there is little negative criticism of it (other than one DubNameChange apparently sounding like a soap opera character) and a sizeable portion actually prefer it to the redub. In fact, most of its hatred comes from FanDumb anime purists.
16th Aug '17 4:41:15 AM ArcaneAzmadi
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* The critical backlash that boy band ''Music/NewKidsontheBlock'' received was especially notable, even noted on Wikipedia. A combination of massive overexposure (at one point, they even had their own Saturday morning cartoon, for crying out loud), criticism for using pre-recorded backing vocals live (which was likely only an issue due to the then-recent ''Music/Milli Vanilli'' lip-synching scandal), as well as a shift towards the rising trends of grunge and gansta rap left this blue-eyed urban contemporary act to start receiving massive hatedom. By 1991, their popularity was in the toilet. Eventually, they too would be seen as nostalgic. They ven combined with the Backstreet Boys to create the supergroup NKOTBSB, which turned a profitable tour in the early 2010s.
** Music/FrankSinatra was the original teen idol in the 1940s. Most of his songs of that period were hated by men across the globe, because girls went crazy over him. Yet as TimeMarchesOn and Sinatra became more associated with a mature adult singing about more world-wise topics these songs from early in his career have been judged on their own merits and are actually quite good. In fact his voice never sounded better.

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* The critical backlash that boy band ''Music/NewKidsontheBlock'' ''Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock'' received was especially notable, even noted on Wikipedia. A combination of massive overexposure (at one point, they even had their own Saturday morning cartoon, for crying out loud), criticism for using pre-recorded backing vocals live (which was likely only an issue due to the then-recent ''Music/Milli Vanilli'' ''Music/MilliVanilli'' lip-synching scandal), as well as a shift towards the rising trends of grunge and gansta rap left this blue-eyed urban contemporary act to start receiving massive hatedom. By 1991, their popularity was in the toilet. Eventually, they too would be seen as nostalgic. They ven combined with the Backstreet Boys to create the supergroup NKOTBSB, which turned a profitable tour in the early 2010s.
** * Music/FrankSinatra was the original teen idol in the 1940s. Most of his songs of that period were hated by men across the globe, because girls went crazy over him. Yet as TimeMarchesOn and Sinatra became more associated with a mature adult singing about more world-wise topics these songs from early in his career have been judged on their own merits and are actually quite good. In fact his voice never sounded better.
4th Aug '17 2:10:54 PM The_Nemesis
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* ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' has generally always received a good response from critics, but when it was released it was 'loudly' savaged by fans who were upset that it wasn't ChronoTrigger 2. It had brand new characters, a brand new world, brand new combat and magic systems (save for Trigger's trademark CombinationAttack techs), and the only real references to its predecessor were oblique, unnecessary fanservice, entirely missable, or the GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere final boss. Nothing that made Chrono Trigger a beloved classic was readily apparent in Cross' design, production, or play. In time, the fan stance softened and Cross is now regarded as one of the best RPGs of the Playstation 1 era and an excellent game in its own right. Modern consensus tends to be that the "Chrono" name was more of a burden than a boon, and that Cross didn't need the pressure of living up to Trigger when it was never really making any strong attempt to connect itself to begin with (the developers have always been adamant that it was meant to be a loose sequel. Cross was its own game with small ties to its predecessor, and was never intended to be a continuation of Trigger's story, or require people to have played Trigger to understand the plot, or to feature a rehash of Trigger's best elements).

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* ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' has generally always received a good response from critics, but when it was released it was 'loudly' ''loudly'' savaged by fans who were upset that it wasn't ChronoTrigger 2. It had brand new characters, a brand new world, brand new combat and magic systems (save for Trigger's trademark CombinationAttack techs), and the only real references to its predecessor were oblique, unnecessary fanservice, entirely missable, or the GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere final boss. Nothing that made Chrono Trigger a beloved classic was readily apparent in Cross' design, production, or play. In time, the fan stance softened and Cross is now regarded as one of the best RPGs of the Playstation 1 era and an excellent game in its own right. Modern consensus tends to be that the "Chrono" name was more of a burden than a boon, and that Cross didn't need the pressure of living up to Trigger when it was never really making any strong attempt to connect itself to begin with (the developers have always been adamant that it was meant to be a loose sequel. Cross was its own game with small ties to its predecessor, and was never intended to be a continuation of Trigger's story, or require people to have played Trigger to understand the plot, or to feature a rehash of Trigger's best elements).
4th Aug '17 2:09:33 PM The_Nemesis
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* ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' has generally always received a good response from critics, but when it was released it was 'loudly' savaged by fans who were upset that it wasn't ChronoTrigger 2. It had brand new characters, a brand new world, brand new combat and magic systems (save for Trigger's trademark CombinationAttack techs), and the only real references to its predecessor were oblique, unnecessary fanservice, entirely missable, or the GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere final boss. Nothing that made Chrono Trigger a beloved classic was readily apparent in Cross' design, production, or play. In time, the fan stance softened and Cross is now regarded as one of the best RPGs of the Playstation 1 era and an excellent game in its own right. Modern consensus tends to be that the "Chrono" name was more of a burden than a boon, and that Cross didn't need the pressure of living up to Trigger when it was never really making any strong attempt to connect itself to begin with (the developers have always been adamant that it was meant to be a loose sequel. Cross was its own game with small ties to its predecessor, and was never intended to be a continuation of Trigger's story, or require people to have played Trigger to understand the plot, or to feature a rehash of Trigger's best elements).
4th Aug '17 12:15:40 AM The_Nemesis
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*** Even ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' itself was a victim of this when it debuted. angry fans rejected the tiny cast of brand new characters, the handful of LegacyCharacter candidates such as Optimus and Megatron who they felt were InNameOnly knockoffs of iconic and popular G1 characters, and especially the shift from vehicle and technology based alternate modes to animal ones (with early Transformers discussion groups coining the meme [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trukk_not_munky "Trukk not Munky"]] to refer to sharp, critical reactions of fans who bemoaned such changes to the franchise). Early story plots were also often disliked for their simplicity or "lesson of the day" type formats. It took until the end of the first season and into the second before reactions softened and fans began to embrace the series' positives, to the point of it becoming perhaps the most praised incarnation of the franchise in terms of its characterization and story.

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*** Even ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' itself was a victim of this when it debuted. angry Angry fans rejected the tiny cast of brand new characters, the handful of LegacyCharacter candidates such as Optimus and Megatron who they felt were considered InNameOnly knockoffs of iconic and popular G1 characters, and especially the shift from vehicle and technology based alternate modes to animal ones (with early Transformers discussion groups coining the meme [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trukk_not_munky "Trukk not Munky"]] to refer to sharp, critical reactions of fans who bemoaned such changes to mock the franchise). backlash). Early story plots were also often disliked for their simplicity or "lesson of the day" type formats. It took until the end of the first season and into the second before reactions softened and fans began to embrace the series' positives, to the point of it becoming perhaps the most praised incarnation of the franchise in terms of its characterization and story.
4th Aug '17 12:12:31 AM The_Nemesis
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***Even ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' itself was a victim of this when it debuted. angry fans rejected the tiny cast of brand new characters, the handful of LegacyCharacter candidates such as Optimus and Megatron who they felt were InNameOnly knockoffs of iconic and popular G1 characters, and especially the shift from vehicle and technology based alternate modes to animal ones (with early Transformers discussion groups coining the meme [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trukk_not_munky "Trukk not Munky"]] to refer to sharp, critical reactions of fans who bemoaned such changes to the franchise). Early story plots were also often disliked for their simplicity or "lesson of the day" type formats. It took until the end of the first season and into the second before reactions softened and fans began to embrace the series' positives, to the point of it becoming perhaps the most praised incarnation of the franchise in terms of its characterization and story.
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