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17th Sep '17 6:06:53 PM starofjusticev21
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*** From a meta perspective this "solution" also ignores a rather key piece of Sally's own character and the series' internal logic: that there's no reason girls can't be even tougher than boys. The canonical reason the bullies Encyclopedia outsmarts don't try to get even by just punching his teeth out is his partnership with Sally, who beats up anyone who tries.

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*** From a meta perspective this "solution" also ignores what a rather key big piece of Sally's own character and the series' books' internal logic: that there's no reason girls can't logic "girls can be even tougher than boys.boys" really is. The canonical reason the bullies Encyclopedia outsmarts don't try to get even by just punching his teeth out is his partnership with Sally, who beats up anyone who tries. The books go so far as to actually call her his bodyguard whenever they explain this.
10th Sep '17 5:58:57 PM Malady
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* ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents...unfortunately falls into this trap in the very first book. While it is very nice to see the Baudelaire children outsmart their much stronger adversary despite never being taken seriously by the adults... any legal scholar worth their salt would tell you that signing a document in your off hand does not render it void.

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* ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents...unfortunately falls into this trap in ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'': In the very first book. While it is very nice to see the Baudelaire children outsmart their much stronger adversary despite never being taken seriously by the adults... any legal scholar worth their salt would tell you that signing Signing a document in your off hand does not render it void.
9th Sep '17 1:49:34 PM Nulono
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** Another episode has him deduce that a man must be cheating on his wife because his phone had a waterproof case, reasoning that because he didn't have the tan of a man who works outdoors, that must mean he takes his phone into the pool with him, which must be because there's something on it he wants to hide from his wife, which must be text messages from a secret lover. Because apparently there's no other possible reason to take your phone into a pool.
3rd Sep '17 12:55:38 AM Nulono
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*** Parodied in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKQOk5UlQSc this skit]].
31st Aug '17 4:22:02 AM NNinja
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* ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'' has weird in-universe example when the clue is counterfactual to story's rules rather than real life ones. [[spoiler: When Luna asks Sigma how does he know that Dio killed the Old Lady, Sigma replies that Dio confessed to it in another timeline. When Luna calls him out on using knowledge from different timelines Sigma replies that it doesn't matter when he found the information since events that happened in the future of different timelines cannot change the past.]] Except they can and it's a major plot point.
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24th Aug '17 5:05:16 AM ReaderAt2046
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** Not to mention that Count Olaf's plot is clearly based on pushing ExactWords till they squeak and would almost certainly be discarded just as quickly in any actual courtroom.
30th Jul '17 7:55:31 PM MBG
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* One ''ComicBook/JimmyOlsen'' comic featured Jimmy [[WholesomeCrossdresser crossdressing]] to [[ItMakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext test the detective skills of his fanclub]]. They found him out in part because "Jackie" had tied a bowtie into a garter, to show "herself" as a member of the club, and according to them, "girls don't wear neckties and never have the practice to tie them ''that'' well." This is probably news to the millions of women who help their boyfriends, sons, or husbands with getting their ties on.
26th Jul '17 12:02:58 PM Tuckerscreator
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** In "Murder At The Zoo", Haledjian meets with a zookeeper after a doorman working at the zoo is found killed. The zookeeper claims to have been alerted to the murder when he heard the scream of a giraffe, since one of them had been caught in the crossfire. Instantly Haledjian declares him to be the real murderer, because according to him, giraffes have no vocal cords. In reality, giraffes have vocal chords so large that they usually make sounds too low in pitch for humans to hear. This is why biologists for a long time thought that giraffes made no vocalizations. While adult giraffes usually seem silent from our perspective, [[[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7iuOZVJhs0&t=1m50s calves can be quite noisy]].

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** In "Murder At The Zoo", Haledjian meets with a zookeeper after a doorman working at the zoo is found killed. The zookeeper claims to have been alerted to the murder when he heard the scream of a giraffe, since one of them had been caught in the crossfire. Instantly Haledjian declares him to be the real murderer, because according to him, giraffes have no vocal cords. In reality, giraffes have vocal chords so large that they usually make sounds too low in pitch for humans to hear. This is why biologists for a long time thought that giraffes made no vocalizations. While adult giraffes usually seem silent from our perspective, [[[[http://www.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7iuOZVJhs0&t=1m50s calves can be quite noisy]].
26th Jul '17 12:02:35 PM Tuckerscreator
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** In "Murder At The Zoo", Haledjian meets with a zookeeper after a doorman working at the zoo is found killed. The zookeeper claims to have been alerted to the murder when he heard the scream of a giraffe, since one of them had been caught in the crossfire. Instantly Haledjian declares him to be the real murderer, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7iuOZVJhs0&t=1m50s because according to him]], giraffes have no vocal cords.
*** In fact, giraffes have vocal chords so large that they usually make sounds too low in pitch for humans to hear. This is why biologists for a long time thought that giraffes made no vocalizations.

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** In "Murder At The Zoo", Haledjian meets with a zookeeper after a doorman working at the zoo is found killed. The zookeeper claims to have been alerted to the murder when he heard the scream of a giraffe, since one of them had been caught in the crossfire. Instantly Haledjian declares him to be the real murderer, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7iuOZVJhs0&t=1m50s because according to him]], him, giraffes have no vocal cords.
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cords. In fact, reality, giraffes have vocal chords so large that they usually make sounds too low in pitch for humans to hear. This is why biologists for a long time thought that giraffes made no vocalizations. While adult giraffes usually seem silent from our perspective, [[[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7iuOZVJhs0&t=1m50s calves can be quite noisy]].
24th Jul '17 2:46:39 PM MBG
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** Encyclopedia Brown pinned a crime on a magician because he was wearing short sleeves. He claimed that all magicians wore long sleeves so that they could pull objects out of them... except good magicians don't need anything of the sort. Many, in fact, wear short sleeves solely to impress people with the undeniable fact they have nothing up them, and at least one group [[{{Fanservice}} performs magic in the nude]]. There are entire styles of magic that depend on (for example) marked cards, psychological tricks, or props with trap doors, for which sleeves are completely useless. Even in cartoons stage magicians as a whole tend to have the catchphrase "Nothing up my sleeves." as they roll them up before a trick.

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** Encyclopedia Brown pinned a crime on a magician because he was wearing short sleeves. He claimed that all magicians wore long sleeves so that they could pull objects out of them... except good magicians don't need anything of the sort. Many, in fact, wear short sleeves solely to impress people with the undeniable fact they have nothing up them, and at least one group [[{{Fanservice}} performs magic in the nude]]. There are entire styles of magic that depend on (for example) marked cards, psychological tricks, or props with trap doors, for which sleeves are completely useless. Even in cartoons cartoons, stage magicians as a whole tend to have the catchphrase "Nothing "nothing up my sleeves." sleeves", as they roll them up before a trick.
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