History Main / Commieland

14th Jan '17 9:50:53 AM marmota-b
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Since the USSR was the one calling the shots for the most part, it tends to be the default CommieLand while EastGermany also gets a lot of portrayal for being a spy hotzone (and in media tends to avoid the error that Communism=Russians). The other "middle" Eastern Bloc countries may come about when trying to depict a pretty poor and depressing place for the protagonist to infaltrate (With varying accuracy considering that some of these non major Eastern Bloc countries like Czechoslovakia and Hungary had a relatively high standard of living). Those in the mood for making a war film will use Vietnam, where CommieLand is ripe with militias waiting to ambush capitalist soldiers.

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Since the USSR was the one calling the shots for the most part, it tends to be the default CommieLand while EastGermany also gets a lot of portrayal for being a spy hotzone (and in media tends to avoid the error that Communism=Russians). The other "middle" Eastern Bloc countries may come about when trying to depict a pretty poor and depressing place for the protagonist to infaltrate infiltrate (With varying accuracy considering that some of these non major non-major Eastern Bloc countries like Czechoslovakia and Hungary had a relatively high standard of living). Those in the mood for making a war film will use Vietnam, where CommieLand is ripe with militias waiting to ambush capitalist soldiers.
8th Jan '17 5:23:57 PM Yukianesa
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* ''VideoGame/KaiserreichLegacyOfTheWeltkrieg'' depicts an alternate interwar period after [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI a Central Powers victory in 1921]]. Devastated by the war and losing much of their overseas empires, France and later Britain fell to socialist revolutions fuelled by working-class anger against the establishment and bitterness towards the victorious German Empire. Interestingly, Russia is ''not'' this trope; the Bolsheviks were defeated by the White Army with German intervention, and Russia is currently a constitutional republic.
12th Nov '16 11:37:19 PM TitoMosquito
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* Thembria as seen in WesternAnimation/TaleSpin

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* Thembria as seen in WesternAnimation/TaleSpin
''WesternAnimation/TaleSpin''.
11th Oct '16 5:52:02 PM nombretomado
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In Eastern Bloc portrayals during the ColdWar, Commie Lands will undoubtedly be portrayed as flawless considering that media workers in the nation could easily get in trouble for creating anything that resembled dissent. Post ColdWar, the ex Eastern Bloc countries will portray their former regimes as heartless dictatorships, or if WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell is in effect, regimes that had a good idea but squandered to bring it into fruition. (Film/GoodByeLenin is a great example of this kind of portrayal.)

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In Eastern Bloc portrayals during the ColdWar, UsefulNotes/ColdWar, Commie Lands will undoubtedly be portrayed as flawless considering that media workers in the nation could easily get in trouble for creating anything that resembled dissent. Post ColdWar, UsefulNotes/ColdWar, the ex Eastern Bloc countries will portray their former regimes as heartless dictatorships, or if WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell is in effect, regimes that had a good idea but squandered to bring it into fruition. (Film/GoodByeLenin is a great example of this kind of portrayal.)
30th Sep '16 3:19:11 PM ZimFan89
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* In ''Literature/TheFalconCannotHear'', one of the major factions in the Second American Civil War is the American Soviet Republic, a Stalinist state controlling everything from Chicago to New York City, and is backed by the USSR. [[spoiler: Their East Coast forces, more Trotskyist in nature, [[ChummyCommies get along better with the democratic Provisional Government]] than with the ASR's leadership, and eventually break away.]]
23rd Jul '16 4:18:07 PM nombretomado
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* Brutopia in stories of the ''ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse'' written by CarlBarks and Creator/DonRosa.

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* Brutopia in stories of the ''ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse'' written by CarlBarks Creator/CarlBarks and Creator/DonRosa.
27th Jun '16 2:46:37 PM Morgenthaler
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* Played very much for laughs in TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'s ''The People's Glorious Revolutionary Adventure''. Normally, the players lived in the Computer-controlled Alpha Complex as (semi-)loyal Troubleshooters; in TPGRA, they lived in the Communist-controlled Alpha ''State'' as (semi-)loyal Smershoviks. Everything was, of course, RED clearance (though [[AnimalFarm some things were more RED than others]]), and everyone had big bushy beards and were to be [[FunetikAksent speakink in thick Russian accent]]. [[HappinessIsMandatory Depression is being mandatory!]] [[TheComputerIsYourFriend Tovarich Computer is your Tovarich]]!

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* Played very much for laughs in TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'s ''The People's Glorious Revolutionary Adventure''. Normally, the players lived in the Computer-controlled Alpha Complex as (semi-)loyal Troubleshooters; in TPGRA, they lived in the Communist-controlled Alpha ''State'' as (semi-)loyal Smershoviks. Everything was, of course, RED clearance (though [[AnimalFarm [[Literature/AnimalFarm some things were more RED than others]]), and everyone had big bushy beards and were to be [[FunetikAksent speakink in thick Russian accent]]. [[HappinessIsMandatory Depression is being mandatory!]] [[TheComputerIsYourFriend Tovarich Computer is your Tovarich]]!
22nd May '16 2:38:58 PM Tromboneman
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In Eastern Bloc portrayals during the ColdWar, Commie Lands will undoubtedly be portrayed as flawless considering that media workers in the nation could easily get in trouble for creating anything that resembled dissent. Post ColdWar, the ex Eastern Bloc countries will portray their former regimes as heartless dictatorships, or if WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell is in effect, regimes that had a good idea but squandered to bring it into fruition. (GoodByeLenin is a great example of this kind of portrayal.)

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In Eastern Bloc portrayals during the ColdWar, Commie Lands will undoubtedly be portrayed as flawless considering that media workers in the nation could easily get in trouble for creating anything that resembled dissent. Post ColdWar, the ex Eastern Bloc countries will portray their former regimes as heartless dictatorships, or if WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell is in effect, regimes that had a good idea but squandered to bring it into fruition. (GoodByeLenin (Film/GoodByeLenin is a great example of this kind of portrayal.)
5th Apr '16 9:36:07 PM Fireblood
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* ''CrimsonSkies'' has the [[DividedStatesOfAmerica successor state]] The People's Collective (covering most of the territory of former Iowa). The name is kind of a giveaway. [[DeconstructorFleet In a slight twist]], it's ruled by a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot ''Christian'' communist regime]].

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* ''CrimsonSkies'' has the [[DividedStatesOfAmerica successor state]] The People's Collective (covering most of the territory of former Iowa). The name is kind of a giveaway. [[DeconstructorFleet In a slight twist]], it's ruled by a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot ''Christian'' communist regime]].
regime]] (Christian communism is a real thing, but has never really caught on beyond small communities).



* During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, the [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] and its satellite states (e.g. UsefulNotes/{{Afghanistan}}, UsefulNotes/{{Albania}}, UsefulNotes/{{Angola}}, UsefulNotes/{{Benin}}, UsefulNotes/{{Bulgaria}}, UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}}, Congo-Brazzavile, [[UsefulNotes/CzechRepublic Czecho]][[UsefulNotes/{{Slovakia}} slovakia]], UsefulNotes/EastGermany, UsefulNotes/{{Ethiopia}}, UsefulNotes/{{Eritrea}}, UsefulNotes/{{Gabon}}, Guinea, UsefulNotes/{{Hungary}}, UsefulNotes/{{Mongolia}}, UsefulNotes/{{Mozambique}}, UsefulNotes/{{Romania}}, UsefulNotes/{{Poland}}, UsefulNotes/{{Somalia}}, Tanzania, Togo, and [[UsefulNotes/{{Yemen}} South Yemen]]) were this. What degree of their "commieness" (read: repression and depression for capitalist audiences or adherence to Marxist theory for communist audiences) depends: Czechoslovakia was relatively liberal and developed; Romania and Albania were Orwellian-like. The USSR was very developed on the other hand, but not as politically liberal as other Eastern Bloc states.
** UsefulNotes/{{Yugoslavia}} was an odd case; it was not a part of the Warsaw Pact or had a close relationship with the Soviet Union (it's part of the Non-Aligned Movement), and the country was rather socially and politically liberal (it maintained healthy relations with capitalist countries and some more freedoms to its people were granted within). However, their rule was also dominated by the Communist Party (which it masked by rotating their leaders, unlike the Soviet Union) and most people still associated it as Communist anyway although it's interesting to note that much of the economy relied on co-ops and self management, which Titoists claim was the closest implementation of Marx's vision in existance. Not helping is it being located in a sea of commies and it being majority Slavic ([[CriticalResearchFailure in public's mindset: Slavs = Commies]]). Then there's the case of UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars...
* Today, this trope can apply to UsefulNotes/{{China}}, UsefulNotes/{{Cuba}}, UsefulNotes/{{Laos}}, UsefulNotes/NorthKorea, and, UsefulNotes/{{Vietnam}}, though all except for North Korea (which ironically is the only one having dropped the Commie label in favor of Juche, which political theorists believe is more akin to fascism given its adherence to Korean racial supremacy) have adopted quasi-market economies, with varying degrees of success and implementation. China for example, has been called state capitalist since it underwent reform after Mao to create a massive market economy with the Communist party at full control while Cuban markets are dominated by the state with some worker controlled co-ops to form an unremarkable economy, but still managing to score very high on the Human Development Index. As for North Korea...well, there's a reason that Creator/ChristopherHitchens called it the most true-to-the-book [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Oceania]] to ever exist in the whole universe...

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* During the UsefulNotes/ColdWar, the [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Soviet Union]] and its satellite states (e.g. UsefulNotes/{{Afghanistan}}, UsefulNotes/{{Albania}}, UsefulNotes/{{Angola}}, UsefulNotes/{{Benin}}, UsefulNotes/{{Bulgaria}}, UsefulNotes/{{Cambodia}}, Congo-Brazzavile, Congo-Brazzaville, [[UsefulNotes/CzechRepublic Czecho]][[UsefulNotes/{{Slovakia}} slovakia]], UsefulNotes/EastGermany, UsefulNotes/{{Ethiopia}}, UsefulNotes/{{Eritrea}}, UsefulNotes/{{Gabon}}, Guinea, UsefulNotes/{{Hungary}}, UsefulNotes/{{Mongolia}}, UsefulNotes/{{Mozambique}}, UsefulNotes/{{Romania}}, UsefulNotes/{{Poland}}, UsefulNotes/{{Somalia}}, Tanzania, Togo, and [[UsefulNotes/{{Yemen}} South Yemen]]) were this. What The degree of their "commieness" (read: repression and depression for capitalist audiences or adherence to Marxist theory for communist audiences) depends: Czechoslovakia was relatively liberal and developed; Romania and Albania were Orwellian-like. The USSR was very developed on the other hand, but not as politically liberal as other Eastern Bloc states.
** UsefulNotes/{{Yugoslavia}} was an odd case; it was not a part of the Warsaw Pact or nor had a close relationship with the Soviet Union (it's (it was part of the Non-Aligned Movement), and the country was rather socially and politically liberal (it maintained healthy relations with capitalist countries and some more greater freedoms to for its people were granted within). However, their rule the government was also dominated still controlled by the Communist Party (which it masked by rotating their leaders, unlike the Soviet Union) and most people still associated it as Communist anyway although it's interesting to note that much of the economy relied on co-ops and self management, self-management, which Titoists claim was the closest implementation of Marx's vision in existance. existence. Not helping is it being located in a sea of commies and it being majority Slavic ([[CriticalResearchFailure in the public's mindset: mind Slavs = Commies]]). Then there's the case of UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars...
UsefulNotes/TheYugoslavWars that erupted after it broke up...
* Today, this trope can apply to UsefulNotes/{{China}}, UsefulNotes/{{Cuba}}, UsefulNotes/{{Laos}}, UsefulNotes/NorthKorea, and, UsefulNotes/{{Vietnam}}, though all except for North Korea (which ironically is the only one having dropped the Commie label in favor of Juche, which political theorists believe is more akin to fascism given its adherence to Korean racial supremacy) have adopted quasi-market economies, with varying degrees of success and implementation. China for example, example has been called state capitalist since it underwent reform after Mao to create a massive market economy with the Communist party at in full control control, while Cuban markets are dominated by the state with some worker controlled co-ops to form an unremarkable economy, but still managing to score very high on the Human Development Index. As for North Korea...well, there's a reason that Creator/ChristopherHitchens called it the most true-to-the-book [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Oceania]] to ever exist in the whole universe...
23rd Jan '16 4:48:47 PM Terran117
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Since the USSR was the one calling the shots for the most part, it tends to be the default CommieLand while EastGermany also gets a lot of portrayal for being a spy hotzone. The other EasternBloc countries may come about when trying to depict a pretty poor and depressing place (with varrying accuracy). Those in the mood for making a war film will use Vietnam, where CommieLand is ripe with militias.

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Since the USSR was the one calling the shots for the most part, it tends to be the default CommieLand while EastGermany also gets a lot of portrayal for being a spy hotzone. hotzone (and in media tends to avoid the error that Communism=Russians). The other EasternBloc "middle" Eastern Bloc countries may come about when trying to depict a pretty poor and depressing place (with varrying accuracy). for the protagonist to infaltrate (With varying accuracy considering that some of these non major Eastern Bloc countries like Czechoslovakia and Hungary had a relatively high standard of living). Those in the mood for making a war film will use Vietnam, where CommieLand is ripe with militias.
militias waiting to ambush capitalist soldiers.
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