History Main / CollegeIsHighSchoolPart2

* Many American community colleges (also called junior colleges) can be effectively called "High School Part 2" and are sometimes derisively referred to as the "13th grade" (or, as Creator/AdamCarolla often puts it, "high school with ashtrays"). They often offer remedial high school-level courses in subjects like math and English to students who otherwise lack college-level academic skills, and many will offer [=GEDs=] or other high school equivalency testing for adults who never finished high school at all. This leads to a lot of structural similarities, including keeping track of attendance, the high school-like "feel" of the instruction, and the "institutional" look of campus buildings. Most community colleges are "commuter colleges" and don't have students living on campus. On the other hand, there's no dress code, no set schedule, and the instructors aren't usually ''as'' insistent on students showing up as they would be in high school; stereotypes aside, students at community college typically want to make ''some'' effort to learn something.

* Many American colleges ''used'' to be like this, with things like honor codes, curfews, and mandatory attendance. Most Americans didn't even go to college until after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, when the GI bill gave free tuition to returning soldiers, and numbers skyrocketed. But for about 20 years, colleges were seen as caretakers of their students, partly because back then the age of majority was 21, and partly because many of those students ''were'' kids when they were sent to war, and someone needed to look out for their wellbeing. Things started to change in UsefulNotes/TheSixties, when the counterculture movement took aim at how students were adults but heavily controlled by college rules, resulting in a lot of protests against "the system." Conversely, relaxing the rules gave rise to the party schools and accelerated the [[WackyFratboyHijinks sorority/fraternity hijinks]]. You still often see honor codes among private universities, many with a religious charter, as well as armed forces academies.

* It's true in some sense in the UsefulNotes/BritishEducationSystem, but only [[SeparatedByACommonLanguage semantically]], as "college" in Britain often implies what is effectively a form of high school. What Americans call "college" is what Britons would call "university"; what Britons call "sixth-form college", Americans would call "12th grade". There are exceptions to this, though, such as "colleges" that are institutions within a university (most notably Oxford and Cambridge, among others), further education colleges (similar to American "community colleges") that run adult education programmes, and the like. The American university system's "general education" component also looks like this in comparison to the British system, where students start on their courses toward their degree immediately. In the U.K., the closest equivalent to general education is A-Level classes in secondary school. That's why British university degrees only take three years in contrast to the four in American universities.

* Many American community colleges (also called junior colleges) can be effectively called "High School Part 2" and are sometimes derisively referred to as the "13th grade" (or, as Creator/AdamCarolla often puts it, "high school with ashtrays"). They often offer remedial high school-level courses in subjects like math and English to adults who otherwise lack college-level academic skills, and many will offer [=GEDs=] or other high school equivalency testing for adults who never finished high school at all. This leads to a lot of structural similarities, including keeping track of attendance, the high school-like "feel" of the instruction, and the "institutional" look of campus buildings. Most community colleges are "commuter colleges" and don't have students living on campus. On the other hand, there's no dress code, no set schedule, and the instructors aren't usually ''as'' insistent on students showing up as they would be in high school; stereotypes aside, students at community college typically want to make ''some'' effort to learn something.

* Many American community colleges (also called junior colleges) can be effectively called "High School Part 2" and are sometimes derisively referred to as the "13th grade" (or, as Creator/AdamCarolla often puts it, "high school with ashtrays"). They often offer high school-level courses like math and English to adults who otherwise lack college-level academic skills, and many will offer [=GEDs=] or other high school equivalency testing for adults who never finished high school. This leads to a lot of structural similarities, including keeping track of attendance, the high school-like "feel" of the instruction, and the "institutional" look of campus buildings. Most community colleges are "commuter colleges" and don't have students living on campus. On the other hand, there's no dress code, no set schedule, and the instructors aren't usually ''as'' insistent on students showing up as they would be in high school; stereotypes aside, students at community college typically want to make ''some'' effort to learn something.

* Many American colleges ''used'' to be like this, with things like honor codes, curfews, and mandatory attendance. Most Americans didn't even go to college until after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, when the GI bill gave free tuition to returning soldiers, and numbers skyrocketed. But for about 20 years, colleges were seen as caretakers of their students, partly because back then the age of majority was 21, and partly because many of those students ''were'' kids when they were sent to war, and someone needed to look out for their wellbeing. Things started to change in UsefulNotes/TheSixties, when students started to realize that they were adults but their colleges still controlled their lives, so they fought back against "the system" -- this was a big aspect of the decade's famous counterculture. You still occasionally see honor codes among private universities, many of them with a religious charter, as well as armed forces academies.

'''Tom Servo:''' Iowa State College, the high school ''after'' high school.

* ''Beautiful Disaster'' by Jamie [[=McGuire=]]: Pretty much everyone the characters meet on campus seems to know who Travis is and be deeply concerned with his sex life, despite him not being even a college athlete.

* Many American colleges ''used'' to be like this, with things like honor codes, curfews, and mandatory attendance. Most Americans didn't even go to college until after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, when the GI bill gave free tuition to returning soldiers, and numbers skyrocketed. But for about 20 years, colleges were seen as caretakers of their students, partly because back then the age of majority was 21, and partly because many of those students ''were'' kids when they were sent to war, and someone needed to look out for their wellbeing. Things started to change in UsefulNotes/TheSixties, when students started to realize that they were adults but their colleges still controlled their lives, so they fought back against "the system" -- this was a big aspect of the decade's famous counterculture. You still occasionally see honor codes among private universities, many of them with a religious charter.