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28th Nov '16 4:42:17 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* The ''Film/StarWars'' prequels establish Boba Fett (yes, [[MemeticBadass THAT]] Boba Fett) as one of many clones of his predecessor, the great BountyHunter Jango Fett (although Boba is the only one who's not an enhanced SuperSoldier). Jango asked for Boba to be created as part of his price for the Kamino project, and treats him like a beloved son, not as an unnatural duplicate -- and his artificial origins in no way detract from his {{badass}}ery.

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* The ''Film/StarWars'' prequels establish Boba Fett (yes, [[MemeticBadass THAT]] Boba Fett) as one of many clones of his predecessor, the great BountyHunter Jango Fett (although Boba is the only one who's not an enhanced SuperSoldier). Jango asked for Boba to be created as part of his price for the Kamino project, and treats him like a beloved son, not as an unnatural duplicate -- and his artificial origins in no way detract from his {{badass}}ery.badassery.



** In "The Doctor's Daughter," the Doctor's OppositeSexClone is a true {{badass}} who eventually earns her "father's" respect.

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** In "The Doctor's Daughter," the Doctor's OppositeSexClone is a true {{badass}} badass who eventually earns her "father's" respect.
28th Nov '16 3:19:41 PM Gamermaster
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* In ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', this is generally the prevalent attitude regarding all the clone characters. Precia Testarossa is about the only character who doesn't share this perspective, and the reason she hated Fate is because she ''wasn't'' the same person as the girl she was cloned from, and Precia wanted a ReplacementGoldfish. The movie backpedaled on this slightly, with Precia realizing much too late that Fate was effectively the little sister Alicia had always wanted.

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* In ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', this is generally the prevalent attitude regarding all the clone characters.characters (which by the end of ''[=StrikerS=]'' is approximately half the cast). Precia Testarossa is about the only character who doesn't share this perspective, and the reason she hated Fate is because she ''wasn't'' the same person as the girl she was cloned from, and Precia wanted a ReplacementGoldfish. The movie backpedaled on this slightly, with Precia realizing much too late that Fate was effectively the little sister Alicia had always wanted.
28th Nov '16 3:18:20 PM Gamermaster
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** The clones also have various relationships with who they're cloned from depending on the age difference and their situation. Dream!Alicia considered Fate to be a younger sister, Quint viewed Ginga and Subaru as her daughters (although she had adopted them before finding out they were cloned from her), Erio and Zest both see themselves as continuations of their originals, and Vivio is treated as Olivie's descendant by the [[SaintlyChurch Saint Church]]. Nove also considers Quint to be her mother, but this has more to do with her being adopted by Genya than any genetic connection.

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** The clones also have various relationships with who they're cloned from depending on the age difference and their situation. Dream!Alicia considered Fate to be a younger sister, Quint viewed Ginga and Subaru as her daughters (although she had adopted them before finding out they were cloned from her), Erio and Zest both see themselves as continuations of their originals, and Vivio is treated as Olivie's descendant by the [[SaintlyChurch Saint Church]]. Nove also considers Quint to be her mother, but this has more to do with her being adopted by Quint's widower Genya than any genetic connection.
18th Oct '16 11:15:20 AM ultimomant
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* Xenilla [[note]]"Spacegodzilla"[[/note]] in ''FanFic/TheBridge'' is a heavily modified clone of Godzilla Senior. He sees himself as his own individual, considering himself the late Senior's son rather than his clone.

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* ''FanFic/TheBridge'':
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Xenilla [[note]]"Spacegodzilla"[[/note]] in ''FanFic/TheBridge'' is a heavily modified clone of Godzilla Senior. He sees himself as his own individual, considering himself the late Senior's son rather than his clone.
** Biollante is a clone formed from combining Godzilla Senior's, Erika Shiragami's, and a rose's DNA. She sees herself as her own individual, and Xenilla and Godzilla Junior consider her their older sister.



* ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' crosses this trope with JustAMachine with the episode "His Silicone Soul". A robot replica of Batman, left behind by the defeat of the evil A.I HARDAC in the two-parter "Heart Of Steel", is accidently reactivated and belives himself to be the original Batman. After he discovers what he truly is, he almost resurrects HARDAC, but when he belives he killed the original Batman, his conscience resurfaces and he destroys HARDAC and himself. Batman surmises that his replica really did have a soul after all. This is an especially interesting example as the original robot clones did not have emotions or anything beyond a copy of the human originals memories, and were NOT examples of this trope.

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* ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' crosses this trope with JustAMachine with the episode "His Silicone Soul". A robot replica of Batman, left behind by the defeat of the evil A.I HARDAC in the two-parter "Heart Of Steel", is accidently reactivated and belives himself to be the original Batman. After he discovers what he truly is, he almost resurrects HARDAC, but when he belives he killed the original Batman, his conscience resurfaces and he destroys HARDAC and himself. Batman surmises that his replica really did have a soul after all. This is an especially interesting example as the original robot clones did not have emotions or anything beyond a copy of the human originals memories, and were NOT examples of this trope.



* In ReBoot the copy of Enzo is ''encouraged'' to be a different person than the original Enzo. [[NinetiesAntiHero Given what happened to the original]], this is a good idea.

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* In ReBoot ''WesternAnimation/ReBoot'' the copy of Enzo is ''encouraged'' to be a different person than the original Enzo. [[NinetiesAntiHero Given what happened to the original]], this is a good idea.
9th Oct '16 4:24:00 AM EDP
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** In [[Anime/MacrossPlus the]] [[Anime/Macross7 various]] [[Anime/MacrossFrontier sequel]] [[Anime/MacrossDelta series]] a large chunk of the human population are clones created after the Zentraedi holocaust. Considering the different personalities (and that they were created the same way the Protoculture did with the Zentraedi), you wouldn't know without [[AllThereInTheMaterial tie-in material]].

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** In [[Anime/MacrossPlus the]] [[Anime/Macross7 various]] [[Anime/MacrossFrontier sequel]] [[Anime/MacrossDelta series]] a large chunk of the human population are clones created after the Zentraedi holocaust. Considering the different personalities (and that they were created the same way the Protoculture did with the Zentraedi), you wouldn't know without [[AllThereInTheMaterial tie-in material]]. It's still impossible to know ''who'' is a clone and who is a survivor of the Holocaust outside returning characters from the original series.
9th Oct '16 4:22:38 AM EDP
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* Used as a theme on ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'', of all people, the villain Orochimaru explains this trope to Naruto, Sasuke and Sarada regarding Shin's clones, saying that unlike Naruto's shadow clones, each Shin clone is a human being with a mind and personality of its own. By the end of the story all of "Shin Jrs" are taken to be raised in an OrphanageOfLove led by Kabuto.

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* Used as a theme on ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'', ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'' when, of all people, the villain Orochimaru explains this trope to Naruto, Sasuke and Sarada regarding Shin's clones, saying that unlike Naruto's shadow clones, each Shin clone is a human being with a mind and personality of its own. By the end of the story all of "Shin Jrs" are taken to be raised in an OrphanageOfLove led by Kabuto.Kabuto.
* In ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' the Zentraedi were created as ExpendableClones by the [[AbusivePrecursors Protoculture]] to [[SlaveMooks fight their wars]], but made sure they had a lot of genetic variance. As a result the Zentraedi have all kinds of personalities and alignments, and by the time the series starts the Protoculture is apparently extinct because [[GodzillaThreshold they had to lift the safeties that kept the Zentraedi from rebelling to fight a massive threat]], and when said threat was dealt with [[SlaveLiberation the Zentraedi refused to let the safeties be reapplied]] and [[TheDogBitesBack wiped them out in return]].
** In [[Anime/MacrossPlus the]] [[Anime/Macross7 various]] [[Anime/MacrossFrontier sequel]] [[Anime/MacrossDelta series]] a large chunk of the human population are clones created after the Zentraedi holocaust. Considering the different personalities (and that they were created the same way the Protoculture did with the Zentraedi), you wouldn't know without [[AllThereInTheMaterial tie-in material]].
7th Oct '16 7:46:39 PM Specialist290
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** Dr Beckett's clone is welcomed by the team and treated immediately as an equal. It helps that the real Carson is dead so the clone is just filling the old one's position. This is the first to get the same PlotArmor the original enjoyed as well - apparently, so long as one is left, it doesn't matter which one. Rodney goes out of his way to make sure it's the case. When the clone suggests he joins a rescue mission, Rodney is the only one that refused, concerned that the others accepted "because he's a clone and they see him as expendable."

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** Dr Beckett's clone is welcomed by the team and treated immediately as an equal. It helps that the real Carson is dead so the clone is just filling the old one's position. This is the first to get the same PlotArmor the original enjoyed as well - apparently, so long as one is left, it doesn't matter which one. Rodney goes out of his way to make sure it's the case.case, due in part to SurvivorsGuilt over the original's death. When the clone suggests he joins a rescue mission, Rodney is the only one that refused, concerned that the others accepted "because he's a clone and they see him as expendable."
1st Oct '16 8:03:49 AM Morgenthaler
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** Inverted in the earlier episode ''Up the Long Ladder''; Riker and Pulaski discover they've been cloned against their will and kill the clones out of hand. When the leader of the clone colony calls them murderers, Riker counters by calling him a thief, as if the two crimes are even on the same level.
26th Sep '16 9:27:01 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/CJCherryh's ''Literature/AllianceUnion'' universe the Union uses cloning extensively to build up their population. These are divided into "Parental Replicants" commissioned specifically by certain people (or to replace the deceased) who are treated as human beings, and "azi" (artificial zygote insemination) who are genetically engineered and copied for use as indentured servants, though the children of azi have the same rights as naturally born humans. In ''40,000 in Gehenna'' a bunch of mostly azi colonists are dumped on a planet in order to create a LostColony (denying the planet to the Alliance).

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* In Creator/CJCherryh's ''Literature/AllianceUnion'' universe the Union uses cloning extensively to build up their population. These are divided into "Parental Replicants" commissioned specifically by certain people (or to replace the deceased) who are treated as human beings, and "azi" (artificial zygote insemination) who are genetically engineered and copied for use as indentured servants, though the children of azi have the same rights as naturally born humans. In ''40,000 in Gehenna'' ''Literature/FortyThousandInGehenna'' a bunch of mostly azi colonists are dumped on a planet in order to create a LostColony (denying the planet to the Alliance).
15th Aug '16 4:08:00 PM AHI-3000
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[[CloningBlues Clones have often gotten the short end of the stick]] in SciFi. When they're not [[TheSoulless soulless]] [[EmptyShell abominations]] or [[EvilTwin evil dopplegangers]], they tend to be seen as just back-up copies of the original and nothing more.

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[[CloningBlues Clones have often gotten the short end of the stick]] in SciFi. When they're not [[TheSoulless soulless]] [[EmptyShell abominations]] or [[EvilTwin evil dopplegangers]], they tend to be seen as [[ExpendableClone just back-up copies of the original and nothing more.
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