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16th Apr '17 6:56:24 PM nombretomado
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** The Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse has "the Beings" in Peter David's ''StarTrekNewFrontier'' series, who gained power from worship and fear, and inverted when it turned out the most powerful among them was so because he gained power from peoples' belief in ''themselves''. In the novel ''Gods Above'', the only way for the crew to defeat them is to be truly fearless.

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** The Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse has "the Beings" in Peter David's ''StarTrekNewFrontier'' ''Literature/StarTrekNewFrontier'' series, who gained power from worship and fear, and inverted when it turned out the most powerful among them was so because he gained power from peoples' belief in ''themselves''. In the novel ''Gods Above'', the only way for the crew to defeat them is to be truly fearless.
13th Apr '17 9:15:41 PM Fireblood
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* The LogicalFallacy known as ''argumentum ad populum'' implies this. For some reason that doesn't stop people from using it, even though the implications should be obvious.

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* The LogicalFallacy known as ''argumentum ''[[AppealToPopularity argumentum ad populum'' populum]]'' implies this. For some reason that doesn't stop people from using it, even though the implications should be obvious.
13th Apr '17 9:14:09 PM Fireblood
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* There's a number of urban legends about Christian college students and their Atheist professors, who try to convince their students that God isn't real. One variation has the professor hold up a piece of chalk saying that if God was real, he'd stop the chalk from breaking on the ground if he dropped it. The student prays that he will have the courage to tell the professor he believes in God. When he tells the professor this, the chalk slips out of the professor's hand, rolls down his pant leg, bounces off his shoe, and lands on the ground unharmed.

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* There's a number of urban legends about Christian college students and their Atheist atheist professors, who try to convince their students that God isn't real. One variation has the professor hold up a piece of chalk saying that if God was real, he'd stop the chalk from breaking on the ground if he dropped it. The student prays that he will have the courage to tell the professor he believes in God. When he tells the professor this, the chalk slips out of the professor's hand, rolls down his pant leg, bounces off his shoe, and lands on the ground unharmed.



* Some more modern branches of the occult (in particular, Chaos Magic) follow this line of belief. The idea is that while the magic itself might not be real, the belief in it is very real and may be able to 'trick' your mind into believing that it is real (for example, curses only working if the victim feels like they've been cursed, and therefore would begin to associate every little misfortune with the curse so that, in their mind at least, they have been cursed).
* Invoking this trope is an advised method of avoiding The CentipedesDilemma: If you believe you will be successful in a task you already know how to do, you are not likely to overthink the actual process and goof yourself up.

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* Some more modern branches of the occult (in particular, Chaos Magic) follow this line of belief. The idea is that while the magic itself might not be real, the belief in it is very real and may be able to 'trick' your mind into believing that it is real (for example, curses only working if the victim feels like they've been cursed, and therefore would begin to associate every little misfortune with the curse so that, in their mind at least, they have been cursed).
cursed). Scientists who study belief in magic have found the same thing to be true of people such as Australian Aboriginals-when cursed (at least in the past) they would worry themselves to death over it, or sometimes even die of heart attacks. It still only worked if they knew they'd been cursed, though that was enough. However, it failed to work on Europeans when they arrived due to their disbelief, much to the horror of the Aboriginals.
* Invoking this trope is an advised method of avoiding The CentipedesDilemma: If if you believe you will be successful in a task you already know how to do, you are not likely to overthink the actual process and goof yourself up.
10th Apr '17 8:39:56 PM kome360
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** ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse specifies that only humans have this ability, which is why all those galaxy-suplexing gods are so fixated on a single blue speck with a bunch of bacteria-like shit-throwing apes running around.
5th Apr '17 9:05:03 PM nombretomado
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** Exploited several times in the video game ''PlanescapeTorment''; for example, the player at one point unlocks a memory of a previous incarnation who had just debated a man into the conclusion that he did not exist, [[PuffOfLogic which caused him to vanish]].

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** Exploited several times in the video game ''PlanescapeTorment''; ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment''; for example, the player at one point unlocks a memory of a previous incarnation who had just debated a man into the conclusion that he did not exist, [[PuffOfLogic which caused him to vanish]].



* The law of physics upon which all of reality is ordered in ''PlanescapeTorment''. The game is set in the outer planes, a multiverse created from the accumulated belief of the people living in the real world (the "Prime Material Plane"), so this operates both on a grand scale (every version of Hell believed in by all of the world's cultures exists somewhere) and a smaller one (in the Planes, one can will a plant to grow or create a person by telling enough people he exists).

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* The law of physics upon which all of reality is ordered in ''PlanescapeTorment''.''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment''. The game is set in the outer planes, a multiverse created from the accumulated belief of the people living in the real world (the "Prime Material Plane"), so this operates both on a grand scale (every version of Hell believed in by all of the world's cultures exists somewhere) and a smaller one (in the Planes, one can will a plant to grow or create a person by telling enough people he exists).
2nd Apr '17 9:19:51 AM DustSnitch
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-->-- '''{{Jesus}}''' addressing his disciples, ''Literature/TheBible'': Luke 17:5-6

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-->-- '''{{Jesus}}''' '''UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}''' addressing his disciples, ''Literature/TheBible'': [[Literature/TheFourGospels Luke 17:5-6
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22nd Mar '17 8:41:22 AM CupOSunshine
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* In the ''{{Literature/Freya}}'' series, this is the foundation of divinity. Belief defines all of the book's gods, physically and mentally, and this is discussed, played with, and even used - particularly by the villains - as a tool.
4th Mar '17 12:09:01 PM nombretomado
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* Used in MarvelComics in ''[[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'' # 301, where it was revealed that, while the gods themselves ''could'' exist long after they had no more worshipers, those who STILL have some had greater amounts of power. Also, a god is stronger in his home plane than gods from another.

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* Used in MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics in ''[[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'' # 301, where it was revealed that, while the gods themselves ''could'' exist long after they had no more worshipers, those who STILL have some had greater amounts of power. Also, a god is stronger in his home plane than gods from another.
18th Feb '17 9:59:44 PM Gamermaster
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* Inverted in ''Manga/KobayashiSanChiNoMaidDragon''. Back when Kobayashi and Tooru first met, Tooru had been impaled by a holy sword that would break the mind of any mortal that touched it. Being from Earth, Kobayashi had never even heard of, much less believed in whatever god it belonged to, so she was able to remove the sword without being hurt. The fact that she was drunk out of her mind at the time probably helped.

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* Inverted in ''Manga/KobayashiSanChiNoMaidDragon''. ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid''. Back when Kobayashi and Tooru Tohru first met, Tooru Tohru had been impaled by a holy sword that would break the mind of any mortal that touched it. Being from Earth, Kobayashi had never even heard of, much less believed in whatever god it belonged to, so she was able to remove the sword without being hurt. The fact that she was drunk out of her mind at the time probably helped.
12th Feb '17 7:05:31 PM Prometheus117
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** This is essentially the only hope of ''anything'' that's not a Daemon surviving for any length of time in the [[EldritchLocation Warp]]. Since the Warp is literally a place powered by strong emotions, the only way to avoid being torn apart by its energies or the Daemons inhabiting it is to believe, without an absolute shadow of a doubt, that you ''can'' survive a place where EverythingIsTryingToKillYou. The trick is the fact you need to ''keep'' believing this or else the protection goes away. It helps if you're also an extremely powerful [[PsychicPowers psyker]] too, which gives you a better way of controlling your surroundings.
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