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27th Apr '16 5:19:45 PM Az_Tech341
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Well unfortunately not always. There are some possible problems with characters regaining their focus that have to be faced.

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Well unfortunately not always. There are some possible problems with characters regaining their focus that have that, should they occur, need to be faced.
27th Apr '16 5:19:03 PM Az_Tech341
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Well unfortunately not always. There are always some possible problems with characters regaining their focus that have to be faced.

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Well unfortunately not always. There are always some possible problems with characters regaining their focus that have to be faced.
27th Apr '16 12:39:02 PM Chabal2
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* ''{{ComicBook/Thorgal}}'' is imprisoned by his wife Aaricia, who refuses to acknowledge him as her husband after he returns from his amnesiac stint as the pirate lord Shaigan the Merciless (which was pushed by Kriss de Valnor, who wants Thorgal all to herself), during which she and her children were branded and exiled. She only forgives him after he singlehandedly takes out a pirate invasion.


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* A subtle one in ''VideoGame/StarcraftI'': the main reason Mengsk abandons Kerrigan to the Zerg is that when she was still under Confederate control, she was the Ghost responsible for the murder of his father, mother and sister. That she has no memory of it or that she hates the Confederacy for their experiments doesn't matter to him, and ends up causing the plot of Brood War and the next two games when she finally gets her revenge on him.
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26th Jan '16 7:10:16 AM Paranoia
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* After [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Zuko's]] HeelFaceTurn in WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender, the Gaang didn't exactly accepted him with open arms. While it's partially justified, considering all the things he did to them, they went out of their ways to treat him like dirt and kick him out, even ignoring certain moments he aided them (like during the Blue Spirit episode). It took him many episodes to fully gain their trust, and only after many efforts, fights, appeasings, insults, humiliations, and even death threats.

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* After [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Zuko's]] HeelFaceTurn in WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender, the Gaang didn't exactly accepted him with open arms. While it's partially justified, considering all the things he did to them, they several of them (particularly Katara and Sokka) went out of their ways to treat him like dirt and kick him out, even ignoring dismissing certain moments he aided them (like during the Blue Spirit episode).episode) as little more than WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency. It took him many episodes to fully gain their trust, and only after many efforts, fights, appeasings, insults, humiliations, and even death threats. The overall process is LampShaded by Toph later, when she complains that she was the first to welcome into the group but the only one who didn't get to have a special bonding adventure with him afterwards.
26th Jan '16 6:55:47 AM Paranoia
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Simple problems might be that [[ThisIsUnforgivable relationships are strained]], as other people might not be quite so eager to forget the character's actions off the bat. A brainwashed character who commits actions that would have crossed the MoralEventHorizon had they been freely chosen obviously won't as be easily redeemed, even with [[EasilyForgiven the all-forgiving]] [[ThePowerofFriendship power of friendship.]]

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Simple problems might be that [[ThisIsUnforgivable relationships are strained]], as other people might not be quite so eager to forget the character's actions off the bat. A brainwashed character who commits actions that would have crossed the MoralEventHorizon had they been freely chosen obviously won't be as be easily redeemed, even with [[EasilyForgiven the all-forgiving]] [[ThePowerofFriendship power of friendship.]]
11th Nov '15 11:49:47 AM JoeMerl
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* In ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice,'' [[LegionOfDoom the Light]] manages to take control of the Justice League, and sends some of their strongest members through a [[TeleportersAndTransporters Boom Tube]] to an alien planet called Rimbor to wreak havoc for [[ArcNumber sixteen]] hours. As a result, Earth suddenly stops being an InsignificantLittleBluePlanet and gets a lot of hostile alien attention, especially in light of [[DifferentlyPoweredIndividuals this whole "superpower" thing]]. Furthermore, the League members involved feel obligated to go to Rimbor and try to clear their name, which puts the League at a disadvantage against the Light's new plans.
9th Nov '15 1:33:47 PM StFan
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* In TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye, Cyclonus is infamous among the crew of the Lost Light for having fought for Galvatron during the war, and was involved in several atrocities. Most Autobots consider him basically a Decepticon, despite the fact that he is technically unaligned (the [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience purple paint job]] can't help). In fact, Cyclonus was under the influence of The Darkness when this occurred, and thus unable to resist Galvatron's commands. He seems to not make too much of issue of it however, not caring about the Autobots' approval.

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* In TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye, ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'', Cyclonus is infamous among the crew of the Lost Light for having fought for Galvatron during the war, and was involved in several atrocities. Most Autobots consider him basically a Decepticon, despite the fact that he is technically unaligned (the [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience purple paint job]] can't help). In fact, Cyclonus was under the influence of The Darkness when this occurred, and thus unable to resist Galvatron's commands. He seems to not make too much of issue of it however, not caring about the Autobots' approval.
18th Oct '15 6:41:13 AM zerohelix
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** Laxus gets back to his senses after threatening to nearly wipe out the entire guild, but Makarov expels him from the guild and refuses to admit him back in later arc.

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** Laxus gets back to his senses after threatening to nearly wipe out the entire guild, but Makarov expels him from the guild and refuses to admit him back in a later arc.


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* ''Anime/YuGiOhGX'': Snapping out of the Supreme King's control is only the start of Judai's troubles.
18th Oct '15 2:22:26 AM HiddenWindshield
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** After Jean Gray has been brought back from the TheDarkSide in ''ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga'', she's found guilty genocide and sentenced to death by the Shi'ar empire, despite the empress' romantic relationship with Charles Xavier. Unfortunately for everyone, fighting for her life reawakens Marvel Girl's Dark Phoenix side.

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** After Jean Gray has been brought back from the TheDarkSide in ''ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga'', she's found guilty of genocide and sentenced to death by the Shi'ar empire, despite the empress' romantic relationship with Charles Xavier. Unfortunately for everyone, fighting for her life reawakens Marvel Girl's Dark Phoenix side.
13th Jul '15 8:57:10 AM Elan
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* In TransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye, Cyclonus is infamous among the crew of the Lost Light for having fought for Galvatron during the war, and was involved in several atrocities. Most Autobots consider him basically a Decepticon, despite the fact that he is technically unaligned (the [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience purple paint job]] can't help). In fact, Cyclonus was under the influence of The Darkness when this occurred, and thus unable to resist Galvatron's commands. He seems to not make too much of issue of it however, not caring about the Autobots' approval.
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