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24th Jul '16 3:24:29 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', Sam and Dean have spent most of their twenty-some years with only each other as dependable family. Eventually, in the episode entitled ''"JumpingTheShark"'' including references to [[TheBradyBunch Cousin Oliver]], they find out that their father had a child several years after their mother died, whom he kept from the hunter's life to protect him. The brothers immediately argue about whether to train him or to spare him from their life. It turns out [[spoiler:he's already been killed in revenge against their father, and they've been dealing with a ghoul]].

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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', Sam and Dean have spent most of their twenty-some years with only each other as dependable family. Eventually, in the episode entitled ''"JumpingTheShark"'' including references to [[TheBradyBunch [[Series/TheBradyBunch Cousin Oliver]], they find out that their father had a child several years after their mother died, whom he kept from the hunter's life to protect him. The brothers immediately argue about whether to train him or to spare him from their life. It turns out [[spoiler:he's already been killed in revenge against their father, and they've been dealing with a ghoul]].
2nd Jul '16 6:10:37 PM BlackYakuzu94
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* ''VideoGame/{{Blazblue}}'' have Ragna, Jin and their sister Saya. Saya was kidnapped 10 years before the start of the story and is nowhere to be seen in the present, both Ragna and Jin assuming that she was long dead. [[spoiler: The the ending of the second game came and revealed that she was very much alive and now the head of TheEmpire subjugating the world, additionally she's also possessed by a death god. So both brothers have to put aside their own animosity for each other and deal with their sister.]]
30th May '16 5:31:03 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain (the BigBad), Abel (TheHero), and Seth from ''TrinityBlood''.

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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain (the BigBad), Abel (TheHero), and Seth from ''TrinityBlood''.''LightNovel/TrinityBlood''.
24th Apr '16 3:33:06 AM SSJMagus
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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Luffy and Ace are revealed [[spoiler:to not be related, and have a third [[BloodBrothers Blood Brother]] named Sabo. In their youth, he was the physical midpoint of the three, and was TheSpock in their three man band. The story is told entirely through flashback, as Sabo is assumed dead and thus a PosthumousCharacter. His death, and Ace's subsequent death]] complicates every ''previous'' interaction between Luffy and Ace, their current situation, and [[GallowsHumor all those that would follow]]. Additionally, Ace's tattoo and Luffy and Ace's relationships with their TrueCompanions take new significance. In a cover, it is shown that [[spoiler:had Sabo lived, the three would be together, and to cement this "Good Future", Ace's tattoo loses its meaningful misspelling. It becomes further complicated when it's revealed that Sabo ''survived'' the incident that supposedly took his life, and has been in hiding for the last twelve years, apparently as a member of the Revolutionary Army. While undoubtedly a heartwarming revelation, it becomes HarsherInHindsight when one realizes that Ace died without ever knowing that his other brother was alive.]]

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Luffy and Ace are revealed [[spoiler:to not be related, and have a third [[BloodBrothers Blood Brother]] named Sabo. In their youth, he was the physical midpoint of the three, and was TheSpock in their three man band. The story is told entirely through flashback, as Sabo is assumed dead and thus a PosthumousCharacter. His death, and Ace's subsequent death]] complicates every ''previous'' interaction between Luffy and Ace, their current situation, and [[GallowsHumor all those that would follow]]. Additionally, Ace's tattoo and Luffy and Ace's relationships with their TrueCompanions take new significance. In a cover, it is shown that [[spoiler:had Sabo lived, the three would be together, and to cement this "Good Future", Ace's tattoo loses its meaningful misspelling. It becomes further complicated when it's revealed that Sabo ''survived'' the incident that supposedly took his life, and has been in hiding for the last twelve years, apparently as a member of the Revolutionary Army. While undoubtedly a heartwarming revelation, it becomes HarsherInHindsight when one realizes that Ace died without ever knowing that his other brother was alive. And even moreso because Sabo had amnesia the whole the time, only remembering his life with Ace and Luffy upon learning of Ace's death...at which point he collapses in tears because he wasn't there to even attempt to save his brother.]]
24th Apr '16 3:28:55 AM SSJMagus
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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain, Abel, and Seth from TrinityBlood.

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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain, Abel, Cain (the BigBad), Abel (TheHero), and Seth from TrinityBlood.''TrinityBlood''.



* In ''ComicBook/XMen'', a slip up by Mr. Sinister introduced an example. As explained on the TangledFamilyTree page, Scott Summers was introduced as an orphan, then met and established a relationship with his brother Alex. This lasted for quite some time, before Sinister hinted that there was at least one more brother out there. After a lot of plot changes and WordOfGod statements, the brother was set as Vulcan, a supervillain emperor. But of course, given that Sinister never gave a specific number, any or all of the other implied candidates could still ''also'' be Summers brothers.

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* In ''ComicBook/XMen'', a slip up by Mr. Sinister introduced an example. As explained on the TangledFamilyTree page, Scott Summers was introduced as an orphan, then met and established a relationship with his brother Alex. This lasted for quite some time, before Sinister hinted that there was at least one more brother out there. After a lot of plot changes and WordOfGod statements, the brother was set as Vulcan, a supervillain emperor. But of course, given that Sinister never gave a specific number, number (he merely said "brothers"), any or all of the other implied candidates could still ''also'' be Summers brothers.
14th Mar '16 6:02:10 PM Eievie
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* ''Anime/YuGiOh'': In the anime, the Virtual World FillerArc stars Noah Kaiba, the previously-unknown biological son of Seto and Mokuba's adoptive father. He has an enormous grudge against Seto and wants to take away everything he has-- including Mokuba, who he kidnaps and brainwashes into thinking Noah is his only brother. The brainwashing doesn't hold, but after Noah has a HeelFaceTurn Mokuba says that he's family.

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* ''Anime/YuGiOh'': In the anime, the Virtual World FillerArc stars Noah Kaiba, the previously-unknown biological son of Seto and Mokuba's adoptive father. He has an enormous grudge against Seto and wants to take away everything he has-- including has--including Mokuba, who he kidnaps and brainwashes into thinking Noah is his only brother. The brainwashing doesn't hold, but after Noah has a HeelFaceTurn Mokuba says that he's family.


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*''Series/PeakyBlinders'': The introduction of Michael Gray--Polly's son, the boys' cousin--complicates the already-fragile relationships among the Shelbys. In particular, John and Polly square off on whether or not allowing [[spoiler:Michael to participate in the less-legal side of the business is a wise idea]].
24th Feb '16 5:40:39 AM Gamermaster
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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Luffy and Ace are revealed [[spoiler:to not be related, and have a third [[BloodBrothers Blood Brother]] named Sabo. In their youth, he was the physical midpoint of the three, and was TheSpock in their three man band. The story is told entirely through flashback, as Sabo is assumed dead and thus a PosthumousCharacter. His death, and Ace's subsequent death]] complicates every ''previous'' interaction between Luffy and Ace, their current situation, and [[GallowsHumor all those that would follow]]. Additionally, Ace's tattoo and Luffy and Ace's relationships with their TrueCompanions take new significance. In a cover, it is shown that [[spoiler:had Sabo lived, the three would be together, and to cement this "Good Future", Ace's tattoo loses its meaningful misspelling]]. [[spoiler:It becomes further complicated when it's revealed that Sabo ''survived'' the incident that supposedly took his life, and has been in hiding for the last twelve years, apparently as a member of the Revolutionary Army. While undoubtedly a heartwarming revelation, it becomes HarsherInHindsight when one realizes that Ace died without ever knowing that his other brother was alive.]]

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Luffy and Ace are revealed [[spoiler:to not be related, and have a third [[BloodBrothers Blood Brother]] named Sabo. In their youth, he was the physical midpoint of the three, and was TheSpock in their three man band. The story is told entirely through flashback, as Sabo is assumed dead and thus a PosthumousCharacter. His death, and Ace's subsequent death]] complicates every ''previous'' interaction between Luffy and Ace, their current situation, and [[GallowsHumor all those that would follow]]. Additionally, Ace's tattoo and Luffy and Ace's relationships with their TrueCompanions take new significance. In a cover, it is shown that [[spoiler:had Sabo lived, the three would be together, and to cement this "Good Future", Ace's tattoo loses its meaningful misspelling]]. [[spoiler:It misspelling. It becomes further complicated when it's revealed that Sabo ''survived'' the incident that supposedly took his life, and has been in hiding for the last twelve years, apparently as a member of the Revolutionary Army. While undoubtedly a heartwarming revelation, it becomes HarsherInHindsight when one realizes that Ace died without ever knowing that his other brother was alive.]]
15th Jan '16 2:47:44 PM JoeMerl
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* {{Downplayed}} or {{Averted}} in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''--the relationship between the "original Mystery Twins," [[spoiler:[[LovableRogue Stan]] and [[ScienceHero Ford]]]], turns out to be a major part of the series, while their third sibling, Shermie, is only mentioned in passing. {{Justified}} somehow because he was a baby when the other two left home.
20th Dec '15 4:06:24 PM nombretomado
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* The Noldor royal family in Creator/JRRTolkien's TheSilmarillion: Fëanor (Cain), Fingolfin (Abel) and Finarfin (Seth). [[spoiler:The only surviving Noldor royal family members in the male line after the First Age were Finarfin, his daughter Galadriel, and Gil-Galad, an elven prince of undecided heritage. Arwen was Galadriel's granddaughter on her mother's side and Finarfin's great-granddaughter. There was also Maglor the Fëanorian, who turned into the Elven version of the Wandering Jew and [[PutOnABus never entered the story again]]. The House of Fingolfin survived in the female line, however, with Idril Celebrindal, daughter of Fingolfin's second son Turgon, marrying Tuor, a prince of Men, and giving birth to Eärendil, father of Elrond (whose significance should be obvious) and Elros (and thus ancestor to the royal family of Númenor and therefore of Arnor and Gondor.]] Tolkien never finally decided whether King Gil-Galad was a descendant of Fingolfin or Finarfin; in the published Silmarillion he's the former, but in Tolkien's latest drafts he's the latter.

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* The Noldor royal family in Creator/JRRTolkien's TheSilmarillion: ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'': Fëanor (Cain), Fingolfin (Abel) and Finarfin (Seth). [[spoiler:The only surviving Noldor royal family members in the male line after the First Age were Finarfin, his daughter Galadriel, and Gil-Galad, an elven prince of undecided heritage. Arwen was Galadriel's granddaughter on her mother's side and Finarfin's great-granddaughter. There was also Maglor the Fëanorian, who turned into the Elven version of the Wandering Jew and [[PutOnABus never entered the story again]]. The House of Fingolfin survived in the female line, however, with Idril Celebrindal, daughter of Fingolfin's second son Turgon, marrying Tuor, a prince of Men, and giving birth to Eärendil, father of Elrond (whose significance should be obvious) and Elros (and thus ancestor to the royal family of Númenor and therefore of Arnor and Gondor.]] Tolkien never finally decided whether King Gil-Galad was a descendant of Fingolfin or Finarfin; in the published Silmarillion he's the former, but in Tolkien's latest drafts he's the latter.
8th Nov '15 9:39:36 PM karstovich2
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* The Noldor royal family in Creator/JRRTolkien's TheSilmarillion: Fëanor (Cain), Fingolfin (Abel) and Finarfin (Seth). [[spoiler:The only surviving Noldor royal family members in the male line after the First Age were Finarfin, his daughter Galadriel, and Gil-Galad, an elven prince of undecided heritage. Arwen was Galadriel's granddaughter on her mother's side and Finarfin's great-granddaughter. There was also Maglor the Fëanorian, who turned into the Elven version of the Wandering Jew and [[PutOnABus never entered the story again]]. The House of Fingolfin survived in the female line, however, with Idril Celebrindal, daughter of Fingolfin's second son Turgon, marrying Tuor, a prince of Men, and giving birth to Eärendil, father of Elrond and Elros.]] Tolkien never finally decided whether King Gil-Galad was a descendant of Fingolfin or Finarfin; in the published Silmarillion he's the former, but in Tolkien's latest drafts he's the latter.

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* The Noldor royal family in Creator/JRRTolkien's TheSilmarillion: Fëanor (Cain), Fingolfin (Abel) and Finarfin (Seth). [[spoiler:The only surviving Noldor royal family members in the male line after the First Age were Finarfin, his daughter Galadriel, and Gil-Galad, an elven prince of undecided heritage. Arwen was Galadriel's granddaughter on her mother's side and Finarfin's great-granddaughter. There was also Maglor the Fëanorian, who turned into the Elven version of the Wandering Jew and [[PutOnABus never entered the story again]]. The House of Fingolfin survived in the female line, however, with Idril Celebrindal, daughter of Fingolfin's second son Turgon, marrying Tuor, a prince of Men, and giving birth to Eärendil, father of Elrond (whose significance should be obvious) and Elros.Elros (and thus ancestor to the royal family of Númenor and therefore of Arnor and Gondor.]] Tolkien never finally decided whether King Gil-Galad was a descendant of Fingolfin or Finarfin; in the published Silmarillion he's the former, but in Tolkien's latest drafts he's the latter.
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