History Main / CainAndAbelAndSeth

23rd Sep '17 9:23:19 AM DesertDragon
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Consider the trope namers. Many people know the story of CainAndAbel, the first children born in the Abrahamic religions. In the story, Cain kills Abel, and was banished by God. What fewer people know, is that AdamAndOrEve had several more kids, one of whom was named Seth. Seth would replace Abel as the "good" son, and while both he and Cain would have children [[BrotherSisterIncest (with their unnamed sisters)]], Cain's lineage would be cursed, and would eventually all be doomed by the Great Flood. Noah and his family were descended from Seth, and as the only survivors of the Flood, this means that all humans are descended from Seth, taking both of their places as the future of humanity. Note that despite "Seth" being much more common as a given name than "[[NameOfCain Cain]]" or "Abel", this is unrelated to AerithAndBob.

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Consider the trope namers. Many people know the story of CainAndAbel, the first children born in the Abrahamic religions. In the story, Cain kills Abel, Abel and was banished by God. What fewer people know, know is that AdamAndOrEve had several more kids, one of whom was named Seth. Seth would replace Abel as the "good" son, and while both he and Cain would have children [[BrotherSisterIncest (with their unnamed sisters)]], Cain's lineage would be cursed, and would eventually all be doomed by the Great Flood. Noah and his family were descended from Seth, and as the only survivors of the Flood, this means that all humans are descended from Seth, taking both of their places as the future of humanity. Note that despite "Seth" being much more common as a given name than "[[NameOfCain Cain]]" or "Abel", this is unrelated to AerithAndBob.
23rd Sep '17 9:22:53 AM DesertDragon
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Consider the trope namers. Many people know the story of CainAndAbel, the first children born in the Abrahamic religions. AsYouKnow, Cain kills Abel, and was banished by God. What fewer people know, is that AdamAndOrEve had several more kids, one of whom was named Seth. Seth would replace Abel as the "good" son, and while both he and Cain would have children [[BrotherSisterIncest (with their unnamed sisters)]], Cain's lineage would be cursed, and would eventually all be doomed by the Great Flood. Noah and his family were descended from Seth, and as the only survivors of the Flood, this means that all humans are descended from Seth, taking both of their places as the future of humanity. Note that despite "Seth" being much more common as a given name than "[[NameOfCain Cain]]" or "Abel", this is unrelated to AerithAndBob.

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Consider the trope namers. Many people know the story of CainAndAbel, the first children born in the Abrahamic religions. AsYouKnow, In the story, Cain kills Abel, and was banished by God. What fewer people know, is that AdamAndOrEve had several more kids, one of whom was named Seth. Seth would replace Abel as the "good" son, and while both he and Cain would have children [[BrotherSisterIncest (with their unnamed sisters)]], Cain's lineage would be cursed, and would eventually all be doomed by the Great Flood. Noah and his family were descended from Seth, and as the only survivors of the Flood, this means that all humans are descended from Seth, taking both of their places as the future of humanity. Note that despite "Seth" being much more common as a given name than "[[NameOfCain Cain]]" or "Abel", this is unrelated to AerithAndBob.
19th May '17 1:40:51 AM SSJMagus
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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain (the BigBad), Abel (TheHero), and Seth from ''LightNovel/TrinityBlood''.

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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain (the BigBad), Abel (TheHero), and (TheHighQueen) Seth from ''LightNovel/TrinityBlood''.
13th May '17 7:23:46 AM Scorntex
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* Some continuities of ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor'' include Balder as the Seth to Thor's Abel and Loki's Cain, though as far as their father Odin's concerned, Balder is the only "Abel" there, with both Loki and Thor viewed as reckless and wayward sons.
** Marvel's upcoming ''ComicBook/OriginalSin'' storyline promises to complicate this still further by introducing a previously unknown ''sister''. [[spoiler:It's Angela, originally a supporting character in ''{{Spawn}}'' and more recently a regular in ''ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''.]]

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* Some continuities of ''ComicBook/TheMightyThor'' include Balder as the Seth to Thor's Abel and Loki's Cain, though as far as their father Odin's concerned, Balder is the only "Abel" there, with both Loki and Thor viewed as reckless and wayward sons.
sons (usually).
** Marvel's upcoming ''ComicBook/OriginalSin'' storyline promises to complicate complicates this still further by introducing a previously unknown ''sister''. [[spoiler:It's Angela, originally a supporting character in ''{{Spawn}}'' and more recently a regular in ''ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''.]]
17th Dec '16 9:08:22 PM JoeMerl
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* {{Downplayed}} or {{Averted}} in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''--the relationship between the "original Mystery Twins," [[spoiler:[[LovableRogue Stan]] and [[ScienceHero Ford]]]], turns out to be a major part of the series, while their third sibling, Shermie, is only mentioned in passing. {{Justified}} somehow because he was a baby when the other two left home.

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* {{Downplayed}} or {{Averted}} in ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''--the relationship between the "original Mystery Twins," [[spoiler:[[LovableRogue Stan]] and [[ScienceHero Ford]]]], turns out to be a major part of the series, while their third sibling, Shermie, is only mentioned in passing. {{Justified}} somehow because he was a baby when the other two left home. home; from a Doylist perspective, he only really exists to explain [[spoiler:where [[SeekerArchetype Dipper]] and [[FunPersonified Mabel]] came from]].
* On ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}},'' the title character's mom, [[{{Workaholic}} Helen]], has an intense rivalry with her older sister, [[PrettyFreeloader Rita]], due to her perception that Rita has always been [[ParentalFavoritism their mom's favorite]] ([[spoiler:though Rita actually seems to think that Helen is]]). The youngest sister, [[CoolAunt Amy]], describes how she always felt like she was ignored and thus grew more independent...but as we see, [[NotSoAboveItAll she can be just as petty as the others]], and deftly works to play them against each other.
24th Jul '16 3:24:29 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', Sam and Dean have spent most of their twenty-some years with only each other as dependable family. Eventually, in the episode entitled ''"JumpingTheShark"'' including references to [[TheBradyBunch Cousin Oliver]], they find out that their father had a child several years after their mother died, whom he kept from the hunter's life to protect him. The brothers immediately argue about whether to train him or to spare him from their life. It turns out [[spoiler:he's already been killed in revenge against their father, and they've been dealing with a ghoul]].

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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', Sam and Dean have spent most of their twenty-some years with only each other as dependable family. Eventually, in the episode entitled ''"JumpingTheShark"'' including references to [[TheBradyBunch [[Series/TheBradyBunch Cousin Oliver]], they find out that their father had a child several years after their mother died, whom he kept from the hunter's life to protect him. The brothers immediately argue about whether to train him or to spare him from their life. It turns out [[spoiler:he's already been killed in revenge against their father, and they've been dealing with a ghoul]].
2nd Jul '16 6:10:37 PM BlackYakuzu94
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* ''VideoGame/{{Blazblue}}'' have Ragna, Jin and their sister Saya. Saya was kidnapped 10 years before the start of the story and is nowhere to be seen in the present, both Ragna and Jin assuming that she was long dead. [[spoiler: The the ending of the second game came and revealed that she was very much alive and now the head of TheEmpire subjugating the world, additionally she's also possessed by a death god. So both brothers have to put aside their own animosity for each other and deal with their sister.]]
30th May '16 5:31:03 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain (the BigBad), Abel (TheHero), and Seth from ''TrinityBlood''.

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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain (the BigBad), Abel (TheHero), and Seth from ''TrinityBlood''.''LightNovel/TrinityBlood''.
24th Apr '16 3:33:06 AM SSJMagus
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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Luffy and Ace are revealed [[spoiler:to not be related, and have a third [[BloodBrothers Blood Brother]] named Sabo. In their youth, he was the physical midpoint of the three, and was TheSpock in their three man band. The story is told entirely through flashback, as Sabo is assumed dead and thus a PosthumousCharacter. His death, and Ace's subsequent death]] complicates every ''previous'' interaction between Luffy and Ace, their current situation, and [[GallowsHumor all those that would follow]]. Additionally, Ace's tattoo and Luffy and Ace's relationships with their TrueCompanions take new significance. In a cover, it is shown that [[spoiler:had Sabo lived, the three would be together, and to cement this "Good Future", Ace's tattoo loses its meaningful misspelling. It becomes further complicated when it's revealed that Sabo ''survived'' the incident that supposedly took his life, and has been in hiding for the last twelve years, apparently as a member of the Revolutionary Army. While undoubtedly a heartwarming revelation, it becomes HarsherInHindsight when one realizes that Ace died without ever knowing that his other brother was alive.]]

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', Luffy and Ace are revealed [[spoiler:to not be related, and have a third [[BloodBrothers Blood Brother]] named Sabo. In their youth, he was the physical midpoint of the three, and was TheSpock in their three man band. The story is told entirely through flashback, as Sabo is assumed dead and thus a PosthumousCharacter. His death, and Ace's subsequent death]] complicates every ''previous'' interaction between Luffy and Ace, their current situation, and [[GallowsHumor all those that would follow]]. Additionally, Ace's tattoo and Luffy and Ace's relationships with their TrueCompanions take new significance. In a cover, it is shown that [[spoiler:had Sabo lived, the three would be together, and to cement this "Good Future", Ace's tattoo loses its meaningful misspelling. It becomes further complicated when it's revealed that Sabo ''survived'' the incident that supposedly took his life, and has been in hiding for the last twelve years, apparently as a member of the Revolutionary Army. While undoubtedly a heartwarming revelation, it becomes HarsherInHindsight when one realizes that Ace died without ever knowing that his other brother was alive. And even moreso because Sabo had amnesia the whole the time, only remembering his life with Ace and Luffy upon learning of Ace's death...at which point he collapses in tears because he wasn't there to even attempt to save his brother.]]
24th Apr '16 3:28:55 AM SSJMagus
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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain, Abel, and Seth from TrinityBlood.

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* Played about as straight as it can be with Cain, Abel, Cain (the BigBad), Abel (TheHero), and Seth from TrinityBlood.''TrinityBlood''.



* In ''ComicBook/XMen'', a slip up by Mr. Sinister introduced an example. As explained on the TangledFamilyTree page, Scott Summers was introduced as an orphan, then met and established a relationship with his brother Alex. This lasted for quite some time, before Sinister hinted that there was at least one more brother out there. After a lot of plot changes and WordOfGod statements, the brother was set as Vulcan, a supervillain emperor. But of course, given that Sinister never gave a specific number, any or all of the other implied candidates could still ''also'' be Summers brothers.

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* In ''ComicBook/XMen'', a slip up by Mr. Sinister introduced an example. As explained on the TangledFamilyTree page, Scott Summers was introduced as an orphan, then met and established a relationship with his brother Alex. This lasted for quite some time, before Sinister hinted that there was at least one more brother out there. After a lot of plot changes and WordOfGod statements, the brother was set as Vulcan, a supervillain emperor. But of course, given that Sinister never gave a specific number, number (he merely said "brothers"), any or all of the other implied candidates could still ''also'' be Summers brothers.
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